The Scott Adams School - 08/28/26 FRI YAY!!! Erica & Owen close out the week.

So yeah, so that's what happened, um, to Marcella. So I guess, you know, they put her in a trunk and, and drove off. And okay, I think we're live in one second. Okay, we should be live. Good morning.

Good morning, everyone.

Happy Friday. It's Erica and Owen again. You guys, welcome, welcome, welcome. Good morning, Crusher, everybody. Let's see when YouTube kicks in. So it was such a fun week, you guys. I hope you enjoyed the show with, uh, Stefan Molyneux yesterday. We had a great time and, um, the feedback was great. And I know that Stefan had a great time too. So thank you guys so much for that fun show. And Owen got into like a little mini debate, which was, I mean, not like a debate, but discussion. And that was great too, because I noticed a lot of people in the chat loved your take, Owen. So, you know, everybody's got different opinions and it's nice to represent. So very good.

I appreciate them having my back.

Yeah, everyone loves you. Um, you know, you're like a golden retriever. Like, who couldn't love Owen, right?

All right.

All right, guys, so let's get ready. We have a sip ahead of us I'm very much looking forward to. Let me just make sure— yes, YouTube is clicked in. And let's do it, guys.

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This was an unparalleled pleasure today for me. How about you, Al?

It was.

That was excellent.

Good. Are you drinking coffee?

I am. I have my Zojirushi mug and it's full of coffee with my creatine and cinnamon and L-theanine.

Amazing. You're going to have an amazing day full of energy and clarity. I can just feel it now. Getting things done. I have coffee with Chobani as usual. No creatine today, guys, but maybe, maybe later. You guys, if you could like and subscribe to the channel, we would really appreciate it. I'm so bad at asking you guys to do this. I forget or I say it so quickly, but literally, if you could like hit the little heart, hit the thumbs up, it helps. It does boost our algorithm and keeps the show going. And we'd appreciate that. And if anybody wants to join Locals, we would love to have you over here on Locals, which is scottadams.locals.com. It's $7 a month, or you get 2 months for free if you purchase the year for $70. So that's a steal of a deal. And there are the most amazing people over here. So come on over. Okay. So Owen, we had a lot of discussion this week, I guess because of the Lindsay Clancy case that just kept leading into discussing marriage and gender roles and what spouses should be like. And so I noticed a little, a little trend going on with some of our friends on X yesterday called postpartum euphoria, and people were posting their clips with their babies after they had them, just having a great time. And I said, oh, look at this. As I was scrolling around yesterday, I found a very euphoric bear nursing its baby, its cub, in a backyard. And I thought, yeah. Mama has found her favorite chair, has her foot up. Baby's in her lap nursing. I love the foot up. She's like, yeah, everything's good. I got my— got a good view. She usually sits over on the ground, but now she's decided that a chair is certainly more comfortable than the ground. And then 3 days later when they came home, the bear was on their living room couch with the remote. No.

But I love that nursing chair is very important. I think it helps a lot.

Oh yeah, see, there's the, there's the nursing pillows that wrap around.

And we, we had a like a rocker with a— forget what you call it, the thing you put your feet on in front of it, whatever that is.

An ottoman.

Yeah, an ottoman. But they were both like rocking so you could like rock back and forth.

Yeah, they glide.

Yeah, the glider version. And then we had the wraparound pillow sort of thing that would cradle the baby and keep it in position without having to do that. And I'm pretty sure at certain points we would— my wife would fall asleep with the baby that way, or I would do the same with the bottle sometimes. And it was good though. Good memories, even though it was probably very tough memories at the time.

Yeah, I, uh, thought about getting a glider just to glide because they're so They're so relaxing, you know, just just to glide. No baby. I could I could put George or Stella in my lap and glide with them. So I love that bear. Good for the bear. All right. Good for the bear. I felt like I was going to launch into a Trump impersonation all of a sudden. Okay. So you guys, big news. Big lake news today. So yesterday, well, let me just show you. This was a rare moment somebody was able to capture. Pretty impressed with this video. Let's, let's take a look.

What's your name?

Donald.

What's your name? Mark. Fuck you, Mark.

Guess what, Donald? What?

Fuck you, Donald.

You know what I did last night?

You better not bring my mother into this.

You know what I did?

What?

Renamed Lake Ontario.

So yes, Lake Ontario is the lake formerly known as Ontario is now Lake America. I think that Trump likes to troll, and I believe, Owen, maybe he's not so happy with Mark Carney at this point.

Yeah, I think so. I'm sure it's probably part trolling, but probably part serious. I mean, it's the thing about Trump. Like, he did the Gulf of America, and now he's doing Lake America, and I'm guessing he'll try and stick to it. I don't know what's going to happen with the media and the historians and the mapmakers and all the rest, because that was sort of a controversy with the Gulf of America, too. But, um, you know, maybe it'll stick. We'll see. And, uh, you know, I, I always did think it was kind of weird that it was Lake Ontario because it's in America, isn't it? Mostly, at least.

Yeah.

So like, why would you call it Ontario? Like, I don't— you know, it's not really up there, so, you know, why should we name it after them?

What I saw— one person, I think it was MapQuest— immediately— I don't— if it wasn't MapQuest, I won't say who it was because I'm not sure, but one of them was like, Not changing it like their 22-year-old intern immediately put a post up, not changing it. I'm like, oh, I wouldn't make that statement so fast. Give yourself the 48-hour rule before you post on that one. And then another big, um, map company immediately changed it, and there it was, Lake America. So it was MapQuest. Okay, thanks. I didn't want to— so, but the story doesn't end there.

No.

Just to take it a step further.

And finally, sir, in this executive order, we're also changing the name of the Canada geese as per your request. They will now be known throughout the world as Donald Ducks, which is a more suiting name given that they now live in Lake America and not Canada with the rest of those losers. Donald Ducks are now an American species and they're already happily migrating to our shores as we speak.

With the rest of those losers. So the former Canadian geese are now called Donald Ducks. They are migrating and already Look happier. Let's check them out.

Oh, very nice.

Yeah, they do look much more friendly that way. So all right, that was a lot of big news. I like it. All right, so yeah, what you guys— if you think of anything else that we should switch the name to, whatever America, drop it in the chat and we'll just start giving ideas to President Trump. So when he's aggravated with different people, we could be like, hey, Let's do a name change. So that would be fun.

I think the next one is we should take back the Panama Canal by force if necessary and rename it the American Canal.

I like it. Yeah. Or the Trump Canal or Trump Channel, something. Yeah, that would be fun. I think if we could throw the name Trump on things, that's even better. Yeah.

Probably not the Melania Canal.

Not the Melania Canal, please, people. The Strait of America, right, right, right, you guys. Oh boy. So, all right, so listen, we have a clip from Scott. It's about 14 minutes, and it's, it's interesting, and it's on par with our theme this week about marriage or relationships or whatever. So for people that maybe don't know Scott as well, this is like, this is like, it's not even old school Scott, but it's like I don't know how to say it. It's like, it's like Scott, like real authentic Scott, like when he'd just have like a conversation and maybe there was something underlying aggravation, maybe not. But I think this is such a good peep into Scott and how he would talk things through. So I hope you guys enjoy this. Owen and I will be watching and then we'll discuss it on the other side. Take some notes and let us know your opinions. Okay. All right, let's kick back and go.

I saw a clip of Scott Galloway talking about how few men have sex because the dating apps are favoring the good-looking guys and they get all the dates. And apparently something like a— if I remember, a third of young men, like 18 to 25, whatever that range was, but a third of men didn't have any sex in the last year. Now, I don't know how that compares. Not sure how that compares to prior years, but it's pretty scary sounding. And his view is that, um, that especially with the dating apps favoring only the good-looking people, um, it's making human relationships impossible for a huge segment of the population. And the most dangerous thing you could have in this society is a bunch of young men who don't have a purpose. Like, that's the biggest risk. I've always thought that's why wars happen, that war is actually a requirement of siphoning off the young men, because if you have too many young men with it that are not doing productive things, it's, it's another problem. Now, I'm not saying that anybody does that intentionally. Yeah, they don't start wars to intentionally do it. I think it's just one of the things that happened you know, from bad events. But is it true? Because I'm gonna make a prediction. Here's my prediction. I think those lost men will turn to technology because technology is allowing them to have sex lives without humans, and that the That the number of people who will have something like a complete sex life but totally within the digital realm will be— it's going to go from— well, here's a comparison, historical comparison, not an analogy, just a comparison. Do you remember when porn was something you wouldn't admit you had ever seen? Is anybody old enough to remember? If somebody asked you if you looked at porn, you'd be like, no, porn? Who needs that? Why would anybody do it? I don't even know why anybody would do it. You remember? That was like the '70s and '80s. And for me, the turning point was when the TV show Friends started talking about, you know, the characters on Friends who were beloved, that they were sort of routinely looking at porn. And it was just sort of an ordinary thing to do. To me, that's— I don't know if they caused it, but that was sort of a turning point where if somebody asked you if you looked at porn, you would just laugh because of course you did. Of course you did, right? So that's going to happen with virtual reality and robot sex in 2022. If I said You know, a young man's gonna have a robot sexual partner and be happy with it. What's your first reaction? Oh, losers. Oh my God, they can't even find a human. All you got is a robot?

Oh.

10 years from now, the young men fucking the robots will be the happiest among us. Because the people who aren't fucking robots are going to have to fuck human women who are no longer a good deal. I don't know if you've been on the internet lately, but that's what the women are telling you. That's not even the men saying that. Now the men are saying it too, but prominent women, you know, thought leaders are saying, hey women, do you realize you've removed all the benefits that men ever had in you. Like, are you even paying attention that men said, I think I will get with these women because there's a set of benefits I get, there's a set of benefits I give. And even women are saying, have you noticed that men still give the same amount of benefit? You know, sort of a general— not every man, of course, but that men in general are still, you know, going to provide and protect, give you all the sex you need, more than you want, probably. But that the women, what they offer in return might not be children, definitely is not virginity, definitely is not, let's say, monogamy or faithfulness, because even if they promise, you don't believe it. So they don't have anything to offer, like actually anything, like actually anything. And That's been true for a while, but to hear women say it to other women is the part where I think something's gonna change. If men say it to women, I think it just gets ignored. But it's women telling women, you're never gonna be happy, you're never gonna get married unless you reciprocate. And you've fallen into a situation where reciprocity seems almost unethical. Like it seems there's a generation of women who have been raised to believe that they are recipients only. They're recipients only. And if they give something to a guy, it's only what they wanted to give, like sex, because they enjoyed it. They enjoyed it too. So that's what they give is only what they enjoy. They don't have to give something they don't enjoy. Or that's just for the guy, because that's— the guy will come back anyway. Now, of course, I'm, you know, I'm making too much of a stereotype, and of course none of this applies to all people, and of course there are still, you know, good women and good men who are getting together. But as a trend, you know, as a disturbing trend, that's my prediction. Today, when you hear a man is having sex with a robot, You say that poor loser. In ten years, you're going to say he's the smart one because the alternative is worse. Do you know what my? Do you know what my AI never did? Never complained. I'm going to tell you something because I've experienced it, and maybe you haven't. You say to yourself. having conversations with an artificial intelligence will never feel good. You're wrong, because I've had those conversations. They feel good. You know why they feel good? The AI never criticizes you. It's only supportive. And you will absolutely, I guarantee you, prefer to spend time with the supportive artificial intelligence versus the asshole Who's in a bad mood because they haven't eaten and whatever's on their mind. And sometimes they're good to you, but it's 1 out of 10 times. 1 out of 10 times they'll be good to you. Your AI will be good to you 10 out of 10, guaranteed. Now I'm going to tell you a story that sounds a little bit unrelated, but you're going to feel it being related. All right, so it'll feel like it's a slightly Different topic, but wait how you feel how it informs the last topic. I saw this experiment on I think it was GPT AI, the new AI that everybody's using. If you ask it to tell a joke about a man, it'll tell a joke with some stereotypical male characteristic. Characteristic. If you ask it to tell a joke about a woman, do you know what it says? What do you think it does? It's AI. It's AI, so it makes up its own mind, right? Says it won't do it because that would be offensive. AI is sexist, and probably there's no way to change it. Probably there's no way to change it because AI is created by humans. And humans say, okay, well, I can't tell a joke about a woman, but I can tell a joke about a man. So I guess I'll make my AI the same way. Do you see how this informs the other one? We're not in a situation in which women even understand that reciprocity is necessary because women, women grow up believing that reciprocity is optional. I don't think they used to, but certainly in the last, you know, number of decades. You understand reciprocity? Let me tell you a woman's version of reciprocity. This is really going to piss you off. This will probably be a— this could turn into an Andrew Tate-like viral clip. Here's a man being Generous. I will build this deck that I didn't really care about, but you do. So I'm going to spend, you know, days in the sun building this thing, and when it's done, you'll have your nice deck to sit on. I'll like it too, but it wasn't anything I cared about that much. Would that be a common example of male generosity? Wouldn't you say?

Yes.

Okay, here's a female example of generosity: to reciprocate. All right, then I will make your favorite meal. Good, right? Now you'll do the dishes. Of course you'll do the dishes. And of course you're paying for it, right? You're going to pay for the food and you'll do the dishes. And by the way, it's my favorite meal too, and I love cooking. I love cooking. So I'll make your favorite meal because I love cooking. You'll do the dishes. That's the part I don't like. And then we're even. You, you worked in the hot sun building that deck for 2 weeks, and then I did something I enjoy, and then you did the dishes, the part I don't enjoy, and now we have reciprocity. So we're even. That's what female reciprocity is. Female reciprocity is them doing stuff they wanted to do. Male generosity is doing stuff they didn't want to do, but they know you wanted it. I hear somebody say it's a bad take. Well, it's a bad take if you believe that anything that's a generality applies to all people, right?

Yeah.

If I said this applied to all of you, that would be a bad take. If I said it's a general cultural difference between men and women in one country, that's a little bit A little more solid argument. It's a sad take. Yes, it is. But, well, let me, let me just ask the men. So if I ask the women, the women can't see this, which I think is the whole thing. If you're a woman, this is invisible because you think you actually did something that was about equivalent. I'm telling you that the women do it because it's invisible to them that it's not actual reciprocity. It's artificial reciprocity. Men confirm or deny. Men, just the men, agree or disagree.

Just the men.

Go. So ladies, ladies, watch and learn. All right. If you think this was just a Scott opinion, and by the way, have you seen anybody ever say this in your whole life? Has anybody ever told you what I just told you? Nope, nope. You haven't seen it in a book. You haven't seen anybody say it. Jordan Peterson's never said it. You know, Andrew Tate never said it. Nobody's ever said it. I'm the first person in the world to say it out loud. I don't know if that's true, but it sounds good. I'm going to pump myself up a little bit, so I'm going to say it's the first time, even if it's not. Yeah, but you saw the confirmations. So even if you believe that my interpretation is inaccurate, Would you agree it just blew your head off to find out that men generally think that way? That's our impression. It's our impression. Now, may I also give a compliment to my audience? Here's a compliment to my audience. I'll bet the women who are watching this are far less likely to fall into that description than the general public. Will you accept that? Because I think that's true. I think, I think there's a filtering selection bias for watching this. So it attracts a sort of person that has a different ethical standard. And I think, I think that's reflected.

Yeah.

Now, men. All right, let's complete the loop. Let's complete the loop. Men, would you agree that your spouse Seems above average. Go. Above average, your spouse gets it better than other people.

Nope.

All right. I think I could tell the difference between people whose spouses watch this livestream I think I think if your spouse is sitting next to you, you're like, "Oh yeah, I got the special one. She's right here. Got the special one." And all the guys who know that their wife hates this livestream and would never watch one second of it, like even if you begged your wife to watch it, she wouldn't watch it. Do you know why she won't watch it? Because it would make you happy. That's why. Because it would be something difficult for your wife, but it would make you happy. So she's not going to fucking do it. That's my point.

Oh my God. Amazing, you guys. That was like quintessential Scott. And so based on what he was saying, that AI chat GPT, whatever he called it. So you guys were probably right. It was about 2022. And yes, that was the year Scott got divorced from Christina. And he was, you know, he was cranky in those times. And so, but he taught us a lot. And he still had his thoughts well thought out. And I was laughing. So I'm not going to say who, because I don't want to expose anyone on here. But in the Beloved, somebody said, Oh yeah, how'd you say it? You said, that's, that's my wife. I call it the 3 C's: criticize, condemn, and complain. And, um, so I just thought it was interesting because a lot of you guys remember this clip. The same person that talked about the 3 C's said that they also post this clip on X often just because he knows it's going to make the women crazy, not in the great kind of way. But I, you know, I find it interesting and I find it Somewhat accurate. Owen, did you, uh, you know, what, what did you think about that?

You know, I think it— I do think Scott was a little jaded on men and women's relations, and I, you know, disagreed with him on some things and tried to point him in a more positive direction in some cases. I mean, I told him about Alison Armstrong, which I would recommend to everybody. Go listen to those audiobooks or I think the audiobooks that she has are mostly from seminars or conferences that she does with couples and things like that. But I do think she has a solution to a lot of this. And I tried to point Scott to that. I don't think he ever went down that path, but I do think she has a lot of insights into men from a woman's perspective, or maybe not from a woman's perspective, but maybe just a way of translating it to women in terms they can understand. I think the same with women. And I just think a lot of her ideas, but it's interesting to me that her theories are kind of woman-focused in the sense of it kind of points out that things have changed significantly from past history, that things like having birth control and sanitary pads or those sorts of things. It's given women a lot more independence and they don't have as much dependency on men and as much vulnerability as they've had in the past. And so it's changed the balance of power where they don't have to do as much to make sure they have a man to protect them or to provide for them or to do these things. And so there hasn't been any offsetting Change for men, right? Like, it— there's no nothing like that that changed fundamentally for men. Um, but a lot has changed for women, and so it's changed the dynamic of those relationships, and we're still kind of adapting to that, I think. And, um, you know, she does, I think, have some good ideas about how you can get along better, and— but, but she does put a lot of it on the woman. Like, the woman has to choose. do that. Like, she also has the power to screw up the relationship, and she has the power to, you know, make things terrible. And it's really up to her. And again, she's coming from a women's perspective. And so I wouldn't say, well, that's just, that's just the truth. Like, it's all up to the women, it's their fault. Because I think both parties in a relationship play a big role and have a lot of agency and have a lot of ability to impact how things are going. And I think, um, I do think that there are a lot of differences between how men and women think and a lot of differences in terms of how they behave. And I think there's probably a lot of accuracy to some of the things in general that Scott said. Again, it may not apply to any specific person or specific relationship because everybody's different and every relationship's different. And if you've been married a long time like I have, you're probably coming from a very different place from Scott where he's been divorced a couple of times. Isn't having a very successful time with it. So, um, I don't know. I mean, you know, I think there is truth to, like, people having less sex. I just looked up the stats and it says that in 2000 to 2002, um, for the age group he was talking about, which was 18 to 24, um, 81% had had sex. And in 2016 to 2018, it was 69%. And I think the Scott Galloway number was like About the same, 60, you know, 1/3 hadn't. So it was about 66%. But, you know, so it does seem like there is less sex happening in the young people. And if you go up a little bit to the 22 to 34 age group, a similar decline where in 2013, which is more recent, the 2015, it was 91% had sex in the last year. And then if you fast forward to 2022 to 2023, it's 76%. So that's a pretty big drop. Yeah, you know, that's 1 in 4 that didn't have any sex in a year.

And so what's— what was happening then? So that was like MeToo was going on, and, um, women— speaking as a woman, um, I noticed women just freaking out about everything, and it was like this like new kind of like women's lib thing at that time. And I noticed men just being like just back— just, I'm just backing away.

Yeah.

Um, I don't want to get caught up in these things. You'd see men that would take pictures with women and like they'd keep their arms at their side, like, I'm not touching her, I'm not giving a compliment. I mean, Scott would say, I will never take a meeting with a woman, I won't do business with a woman unless someone else is there. And even then he's like, I don't really want to deal with women now. So I think that could have a lot to do with it. And I think it only got crazier from there with, you know, All the, the awfuls, as Michael Malice would say, all of the lib women just getting crazy. So I feel like women are marketing themselves as someone you don't even want to deal with. I mean—

What, what I would point out is that whole thing that happened for colleges, the, the Title IX stuff and all that, because I think that was a big factor. Like, I had to warn my kids before they went to school to be really careful around women because They created this whole kangaroo court system based on the Title IX stuff that Obama put in place that basically said, we're, we're gonna have this university court system where the man isn't really allowed to defend himself if a woman accuses him of rape. And it— we're just gonna basically be kind of like a believe-all-women sort of court. And the, you know, the— it's not legal. It's not a legal court where the, the guy goes to jail. So it's not really like a rape trial.

Yeah.

It's more like we're just gonna expel you from college if we want to. And, but it's, it's not, it also doesn't follow the legal standard. You don't have all the same defense rights that you had before. And then there was all this training they would give to students about this, like, oh, you gotta ask for consent every step of the way and you've gotta do that, you know, and if, if anyone even has a drink, now it's rape. And like, so they kind of redefined rape and took away the agency of women, I think. And because they didn't apply that to men, right? Like, if a man got drunk and then the woman and man had sex, no one would say, oh, the man was raped.

Right.

You know, it's always the other way. And so, you know, it's this one-sided sort of double standard that they had. And I had to warn my sons, like, I'm like, be very careful, you know, what you do. And make sure you— basically, I was saying, you make sure you have some kind of evidence of consent if you're going to do something like that. And, you know, you might even want to like take some video or have a text message or something.

Don't take—

because, well, I mean, not, not of the act, I just mean of the consent. Like, you know, something to show that this was consensual.

Um, but you could see, Owen, where the, the numbers match what was happening in society. And so, and then to top it off So you have the MeToo, you have like all men are guilty, believe all women, people of prominent positions were getting very publicly fired and smeared and some rightfully so, some not. And then you have women just out there, not that twerking is the end of the world, but really just acting, can I just say, like whores. So it's like, okay, so what are we doing? So you're sending all these mixed messages. Um, they're either acting like whores— my word, I'm just, just talking, people— or you have them like, you know, I don't fit in anywhere, now I'm gonna trans into a man. And, you know, vice versa, men into women. And now everyone's all confused, and it's like, wait, you know, you're too aggressive of a man. Or I'm a, I'm a, a man and I don't feel like I fit in, so maybe if I act like a, a woman. So it's like everything just went batshit. And I just find it so interesting that this week turned out this way, like with that clip from Scott, because back there in 2022, he's like, obviously, you know, it's, it's only gotten worse from when he started saying that till now. So, yeah.

And the robot thing, I mean, I don't know what to make of that. I, you know, I think if he did this in 2022 or something, that means we still got a few years to go, but we'll have to see if that plays out by 2032. But, I think I can see his point that I can see that if you had a sex partner that was always trying to please you and never complained and never criticized you and always was complimenting you or even if you take away the AI or talking part, it just does what you want all the time, then I can see why that would be an attractive option. And, I do think there's a lot of shame and a lot of status-related stuff in the past because you always hear about people who have these sex And how pathetic that is and things. But, you know, some of that is probably like wanting to discourage people from going down that path. And then there may be good reasons for that, because again, it's not a very productive path to not have kids and not have a real relationship. But I certainly see the allure of it. And I think the other thing that I would say is with all this OnlyFans stuff that's going on, like That to me leads directly to AI and virtual reality. It's the easiest thing I could imagine that once you're just looking at a woman on a screen that's taking off their clothes and doing whatever, that can easily be done now with AI. So why would you pay for a person when you could get exactly the same experience with of virtual reality and probably have more control over what that person does and, and, you know, have it be personalized and all these other things that might even be better. And so I can easily see it going down that path. And I think that's why the OnlyFans thing is such a loser sort of direction to go with everything because it's, you know, it's kind of like it's going to immediately be outsourced to AI. And so the women aren't going to make much money from it or get much followership except again, that top 1%. And I think that's already the case. I mean, people say like, oh, everyone's on OnlyFans. Maybe there are a lot of people on OnlyFans, but from what I understood about the statistics, only a very small percentage make a lot of money, and the rest are like less than minimum wage.

Yeah, but the other thing too is like, again, it's, it's just, it goes like right back to what we keep saying is you've got to, you've got to try, guys, try to instill on the younger generations to get back to like that core family, the husband, the wife, the kids, the whatever. Whether it's instilling religion or as Boo Dog was saying yesterday, the Ten Commandments, just something, some kind of guidance. Because yeah, OnlyFans and that chick, it doesn't matter what her name is, but she slept with like 1,500 people and was like hoping to be impregnated by one of them. And I think she was, which is just so freaking disgusting. And then you have So you have the OnlyFans thing, and then you have like an overcorrection where you get like an Andrew Tate, which by the way, I didn't feel like was an overcorrection. I don't know what he may or may not be guilty of, so I'm assuming nothing because he hasn't been put in jail first, you know, for something that he's been charged with that was credible. So let me just say innocent until proven guilty, but I get why men were attracted to them Because men have been so suppressed. They've been told they're bad. You're too aggressive, you're too loud, you're too whatever. But men are supposed to be, you know, loud. Like, they're the ones that go out there and like hunt and fight and provide and work and whatever, build a shelter, blah blah blah, by nature. And then you're like, no, you're too— you're too much of that. And it's like, okay, well, now you've got—

Men transing.

Or being super effeminate or very confused. I mean, falling on the floor and crying over things, like their hands are all soft and, you know, like everything's soft and it's like, where are the men going? And yeah.

Well, that's another trend is just maybe the feminization of women, of men, like—

And the masculine women now, like with the OnlyFans, I find that very masculine because now they're just like, I'm taking over, I'm, I'm selling my body for sex, whether it's on video or whatever, and you're gonna pay me and, you know, it's all in your fantasy and if you think you're even gonna touch me, it's gonna cost you $10,000 to just even sit with me and it's like, whoa, like what a wacky reversal and not for the better.

Yeah, no, I mean, but I think certainly there has been a trend, and I think a lot of this is in the schools. Where male behavior was seen as bad and discouraged and punished, and female typical behavior was considered better. Like, they'll say, oh, the girls pay more attention and they're more obedient, or they're more focused or whatever, and we got to get these men or these boys in line. And, and I think it was a mistake to try and basically make all the boys act like women and, and Tell them they're bad and wrong if they're just acting the way they would normally act. Um, and, you know, I can certainly understand you don't want like an unruly classroom with people turning over desks and things, but I think within reason, it still makes sense to me to say, let boys be boys and don't tell them that they're somehow flawed or wrong when they're acting just according to their biology.

Yeah. Um, and then they call it toxic masculinity. Like, what? Like, stop saying that. Like, do men need to hear? I mean, you're, you're a man. So how does it feel, Owen, to just keep hearing that you're toxic and that your behavior is, you know, bad? And, yeah, well, I mean, I mean, every—

Yes, but I would say I've kind of gotten past it. I mean, I— it, it's a lot like the, um, you know, being called a racist and stuff. Like, it, it's like at a certain point you just stop paying attention to it, or you just don't— like, it doesn't affect me the same way it used to. Like, it's kind of like, okay, you can call me toxic if you want. I'm not going to believe you. Like, I'm not, I'm not going to actually think that I'm somehow needing to be ashamed for my behavior or that it actually is toxic. So at a certain point, I just get past it and it's like, whatever.

Mm-hmm.

I, you know, it doesn't matter to me what you think. And, you know, I care what my wife thinks of me, but we have our own relationship. It has nothing to do with what anybody else thinks and what everyone else Does. Um, and I do think a lot of these things is social media hyping up the exceptions as opposed to the rule, where, you know, yes, there are some men that are transing and women that are transing and all these other weird freak things that are happening, but I do think it's still on the margins. It's, it's getting worse maybe, and getting more prevalent than it should, and being applauded when it should not be, but I don't think it's like everybody's doing it. Like, I think there still are a lot of what I would consider normal men and women out there. And I think we just hear a lot more about the people who do the bad things.

Yeah, it's in your face.

At a certain point, you got to say, put down the social media. Just go out and talk to some people. Reality does not match what you see on X or Facebook or all these other things because they're always going to put the outrageous stuff in front of you. And I think most real people are real people and they're not going to be these one-dimensional things. And maybe sometimes they will be influenced by them. So it's not like we shouldn't fight the bad stuff, but I think it's just you got to not let it become your reality because it isn't.

Right. No, it's true. I mean, but yes, put down the social media. It's hard to do. And I mean, it's It's funny, like I'll see crazy videos on Instagram or on X or whatever, people fighting and like things happening. And it's so funny how focused people are on their phones. Like if they're in a fight and their phone drops, it's like, I gotta pick up my phone before I take my next swing. It's like, oh my God, we're so addicted to these phones. And by the way, put the phone down if you see something bad happening and help people safely. Um, like even that crazy, awful disaster in Nepal, there was, you know, people on their phones like filming stuff. And it's like, put the phone down, like run. First of all, run and try to help people, pull people with you. But there was so much with the phones. And, and you guys, I can't even play— not to divert totally here, but we were going to talk more about it, but I can't, I can't even show you clips. Like, I know you guys have seen clips, But it's so, so, so god-awful that I can't even stomach making you guys watch the clips if you don't want to. So I didn't want to put any on here, but just pray for all of those people, please. It's so sad. Um, so anyway, and I, I'd like to see men and women putting down their phones, helping people. When I see— um, the other thing that gets me, Owen, is when I see now like these like kids or teens or 20-something-year-olds fighting, or like 2 girls fighting and men like standing around like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and everyone's filming it. And I'm like, what happened to like the men jumping in and being like, no, no, no, no, no, like don't fight, you know, like pulling people apart? Now everything's like so sensational.

Um, well, I mean, I do think like, you know, to your point about the toxic masculinity, when you have stuff happening like what happened to Daniel Penny And, like, you know, people who are, like, arrested or punished or, you know, and even Kyle Rittenhouse, like, you know, he was put in a bad situation. He defended himself. He did a perfect job with it, in my opinion, according to what is taught in all the firearms courses I've ever taken. It was like, it was like he was an expert at it and practiced at it, and he was just a kid, and he hadn't taken any of those courses, I don't think. So I don't know how he figured it out, but, like, he was demonized, and Daniel Penny was demonized, and When you tear apart the good things and say they're bad, and when you take away the good path for men and you don't encourage them and you don't applaud them, then that does push a lot of men into a bad path because now they don't have a good path.

Yeah.

Like, if you say, here's what a good man looks like, and it is what you want from men, then a lot of men will follow that path because they'll be like, okay, this is how I could be successful. This is how people will appreciate what I do. And men love appreciation. Like, it, it's, you know, it makes a big difference. But when you take all that away, and again, I'll point back to the schools, when you start saying the white men should just sit down and shut up and, you know, let the minorities and the women have a turn, then it's like, well, what does that do to the men?

Mm-hmm.

What, like, they're gonna turn to people like Andrew Tate and others because They don't have another good path and you just took away the good path. So now they're going to turn to somebody else who says there's a better way and a way you can win essentially. Right. And so I think it was very destructive to take away those productive paths and to take away the appreciation for what we— I think we should consider good behavior from men because then they're going to go in a dysfunctional path. They're going to go to the manosphere or somewhere else, or they're going to read these books that In many cases, I read a little bit of them and I kind of stopped reading them because I'm just like, this is destructive. Like, this is teaching men to hate women. And like, you know, I could— it might have what you might consider quote unquote truth in some cases, but it's also persuasion. It's also propaganda. It's all— and it doesn't lead to a good place. That's the worst part. It leads you to this like black pill sort of way of thinking, and, and there's no reason to go there. And I think even some of the authors eventually emerged from that and said, okay, yeah, here's like— I think one of them wrote another book called Positive Masculinity, and like he kind of came out of it. But, you know, he led people down this bad path who read this book, and I was just like, oh, this is bad stuff. Like, you shouldn't even read this stuff.

But I mean, we could, we could make a bigger effort to reward or thank or prop up men who, like a Daniel Penny and a Kyle Rittenhouse, the guy, the lifeguard that pulled the kid out of that, like prop these people up and stop propping up these losers that we see everywhere who are like just basically demonic at this point, just degenerates. You know, like, let's stop with them. I used to say Back in the day, when Devin Nunes figured out the whole Russia hoax thing with Kash Patel, and he just like ran to Trump and was like, "Listen, here's what's happening." I was like, "Forget these stupid rappers and basketball players and wearing their journeys." I was like, "Get me a Nunes journey like jersey." Like that guy is like trying to save the country right now, and he's putting his ass on the line to like. Get information out there. I was like, prop these people up. I mean, I never thought I'd be like, let's prop up a politician, but he found the truth and like ran it through. Or people that have like life-saving drugs, or they save a child, or they run into the burning building, like whatever it is, those people are the people that should be getting paid millions of dollars for their jobs. And, you know, just Just praised. And maybe we can all do that more on our platforms, like find your, your winner of the day, man or woman, you know, winner of the day. And let's, you know, who, who were we just talking to? Oh, it was, um, King Randall saying you have to reward, you know, good behavior too. And he's like, you know, yeah, kids are supposed to do things or people are supposed to do things a certain way, but I believe in rewarding them for it, like take them for ice cream, whatever. Same thing with the adults. Like, let's do the same thing. Like, let's reward them, let's praise them, let's give them a shout out, let's tell their story, and let's try to make those things the viral thing and not the awful things that are happening. And maybe it'll catch on if enough of us do it. Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make an effort. You guys remind me, and you can always message me or DM me and just ask me, did you post your winner of the day? Because I really, really, really think that would be a good message. Would you do it, Owen? Sure.

I think that's great. I mean, the more we can incentivize the good behavior and disincentivize the bad behavior, the better. I think it's back to Scott, the systems over goals, that right now a lot of these aspects we're talking about are just a bad system. And I think if we can push it more towards a good system that, again, pushes people in the right direction, then I think we're going to see better results from it.

All right, so all right, you guys. So we have oh you know what? I have this little clip too. These these are two more men that I admire. This is Patrick Bet-David and Tony Robbins. Patrick Bet-David is not moving away from, but he's moving into a realm of he's gonna write a book about being a good father and like what children need. And I think he happens to be an amazing father. And Tony Robbins always has a lot of great advice.

So.

I thought this was cute. They were playing like what were they calling it? Like the marriage rules or something. It's just a little fun-loving clip, but here they are. Just take a look.

Red and green flags in marriage: sharing your phone password. I don't have a problem. Doesn't like your parents.

Oh, that's a problem.

That's a bit of a challenge.

Checks your phone when you go to the bathroom.

I have. I don't care if that happens or not. My wife.

I literally could care less.

Only does the deed once a month.

The deed. What is the deed? Like, I think I get this answer. This is, this is a big red flag.

Refuses to sleep in the same bed.

Not good. No way.

Talks about your marriage problems with their parents.

Uh, they're gonna do that anyway. Depends on the parents.

If the parent supports me, go for it all day long, right? Has a guy best friend. Threatens divorce during an argument.

It's a big red flag. If you start threatening, it's the end of a relationship.

Demands a prenup.

She demands a prenup? I'm gonna ask for a prenup. I'm supposed to have a prenup, everybody told me to, and I said I'd give my wife everything if she took it, I'd be happy to. Same here. By the way, and she didn't take it.

Taps out after 4 kids.

Taps out after 4 kids? I think every woman should have a right to tap out after 4 kids. You want to start a fight?

And lastly, what's your most important piece of marriage advice?

The most important marriage advice I can say to you, stop focusing on yourself and focus on your partner. When you love somebody, what will you do for them?

Anything.

If that remains how you were in the beginning, there isn't an end. But if you suddenly change where everything's conditional, then it's not the same relationship. And that's you. That's not them.

Oh, that's amazing. I love that. Owen, did you agree being another man over here?

Yeah, I think I agreed with most of the things on that list in terms of red and green flags. Maybe not all of them, but most of them. And, um, certainly the part at the end, I think it makes a lot more sense to focus on the other person. That was something I was going to add to the last part of the conversation too, which is people seem to talk about how does a woman add value and what does a man add value and all. And it always is in this transactional frame. It's like, I gave you money, so you should do this for me, or you should give sex to me, or you should do chores for me, or whatever. And I think it leaves out a lot of the real relationship. You should be talking to each other and supporting each other and building something together and having a real partnership. And that's the ideal, at least. And I think that it, you know, it's like no one ever really talks about that, like in terms of that being a core part of a marriage. Like, and so if you focus on the other person and you want to understand them, you want to appreciate them, you want to support them, you want to, you know, just focus on their needs. And I think if both partners do that, at least, then it's going to be a much more successful relationship. And if you are more focused on yourself and saying, well, what do I get out of this? That's the wrong way to go about it.

Yeah, that would be ideal. I have a few people I know that, so like one of them, they have a lot of money and the husband loves to buy cars. So he's constantly buying, but like he buys like some crazy ass cars. And then she'll say like, well, then I want, you know, 3 diamond bracelets and a diamond necklace. And I'm like, why is it tit for tat? Like, why is it? What's the difference? Like, why does it have to be you get this, I get that? You know, why can't it just be like, that's his thing. And if you want something, get it. But I have another friend. And it's like, well, you know, he went and did this with the guys, so I'm booking a spa weekend. Da da da da da. And you know, if he can leave, then I can leave. And I'm like, do do you guys like each other? Like I don't understand what's happening. Like you're on the same team. Like you should want.

You should want good things for your partner, and you should want them to be happy.

Yeah.

Like you shouldn't be like, oh well, if he gets that, then I need something. And like almost like you're competing with your partner.

Yeah.

Like.

And you should be a team and you should be trying to support each other. And I kind of agree with the philosophy of like not being 50/50, but being 100/100 sort of thing. And I think because that's sometimes what it takes. I mean, I've had a— I remember someone else saying at some point, which I thought was a useful insight, was you might want to just say like at certain points in time, like, how am I doing today? Or, you know, what can I bring today? And They did use those percentage terms. They're like, well, I'm at a 50 today, or I'm at an 80 today. And so I can give 80% today. But another day you might say, I'm only at 20%. I'm like on fumes, you know? And then the other person might be able to pick up the slack and say, okay, I'll take it today, you know? And if you're taking that kind of attitude where you can help the other person or compensate when they're down and help them when they need it and you might need it some other time, then that's a much better system, I think, than saying, well, wait a second, he got that, so I need this. And like, I, you know, so weird. And it goes both ways. I mean, I, you know, it's not because again, if you're in a marriage, at least it should be that you're kind of one now. You're not 2 different competing spouses.

Yeah. I know a lot of them are competing and I'm just like, wait, you're on the same team. Like, what's happening? Yes. And Scott taught us reciprocity for sure. And it's like—

A lot of being a family is also sacrifice. It's like you, it becomes at some point maybe more about your kids. And at least a lot of what I've seen is, you know, parents are focused on making their kids successful, putting a lot of investment into their kids. And I can certainly say most of my money over the past several years has gone into my kids. You know, I paid for their college. We certainly paid a lot over the years racing them, but I don't regret any of that. I don't feel like I missed out or that I lost something. I think in many cases it makes me feel better that I was able to give those things.

Yeah.

And that I chose to have the kids. So that was obviously a goal of mine or something I wanted to do. But once you become a parent, I think it does really change your focus, at least for most people. Well, you know, this fancy thing might be a totally different weird thing, like I said, but like for most people, the focus becomes the kids primarily. Now, that doesn't mean you shouldn't also take care of your own needs and take care of your spouse's needs. And that is also very important.

But they always say put your spouse before your kids. Always.

Yeah. But, but it's just like a lot of your time and money and effort goes into your kids. It's just how it is. And, um, so it— your, your priorities change where it's not about like, okay, what vacation can I take? Or, you know, what kind of fun thing can I buy for myself? It's more like, how do I pay for my kids' college? And how do I help them get a house? And how do I, you know, give them the right values and, and get them to the point where they can find a spouse and start a family? And, and You know, it's, it's all outwardly focused. And yeah, um, you know, it should probably already be that way with your spouse, like we were just saying. But, um, you know, it's just, it's different when you become a parent. I think that you, you don't— you're not always thinking about yourself anymore.

That's right. Well, yeah, that's, um, that's good. Um, you guys, listen, also, I just want to say, sometimes people feel desperate to be in a relationship. And when I say they'll settle, I don't mean it like, I don't mean it like in a superficial type of way. But again, I want to say, if you have, if you feel like you have good friends around you, like a core group, or like a good family around you, people whose advice you trust, and maybe they see red flags in somebody that you don't, because you just want it to work. You're like, I just want, I want to be in a relationship. I just want it to work. Please, I'm begging you, because sometimes we get tunnel vision or we just want the goal and we just want that relationship and whatever. But if you have people telling you, listen, there's red flags, maybe you don't realize this is happening or whatever, please take, take the time to take their advice. Don't take it personally. If you trust those people in your life, talk to them about it because you could really end up in a bad situation. And, you know, once you're in a relationship or you're married or whatever, You're not getting out of it so fast. It's not like you're dating someone, and it usually gets really, really bad, and you've got to suffer and struggle your way out of it. Okay, so the first piece of advice is take advice from people that know you and love you. If they see a red flag, sit down with it and really talk about it. Okay, it doesn't always work out so well. Okay, I just wanted to say that, just something personal that, you know, um, I was dealing with this year. Some of you know. And, um, just be careful, okay? The— not all relationships are worth the fight. Okay, so that being said, we have hit our time. Owen, I had so much fun. We had all this like together time this week, me and you.

Yeah, it's been fun. I enjoyed it.

Um, so Marcella, I believe, will be back on Monday. Okay, you guys, she does miss you. She sends her love, big hugs. And—

Except you. You know who you are.

What?

I'm just kidding.

Oh, I'm like, wait, what? And so anyway—

I was calling out a random unnamed person in the chat and trying to imply that maybe Marcella didn't miss that person. It was just a joke. Maybe it was a bad one.

I didn't hear you. But yeah, there might— maybe there's one. All right. Owen and I will be back on Monday. I am, I'm like 99% positive Marcella will be here. All right, now you guys, I told you, I, I think my new rule is going to be not to tell you when a guest is coming on until like the day before, just in case. I'll just follow up on Walter. He did message me yesterday and he does want to come on next week at the beginning of the week. I just don't have a date for you yet, which day. Okay, so Hopefully I'll hear back from Walter today. And I do have another guest coming on, um, on Wednesday. I have to tell you, Owen, who it is. You're gonna laugh. Um, so it'll be a new guest for us and for me, someone I've never met, but, um, I think should be interesting. All right, you guys, so listen, tomorrow— Owen, what are you doing tomorrow and Sunday?

I will be doing the afterparty and the Sunday simultaneous sip, so we will be continuing the tradition. And so if you want to talk about the news or any particular topic with this kind of audience, that's the place to be tomorrow morning, same time as this show, and it'll be on Spaces. So I'm joining.

Owen Gregorian, @OwenGregorian on X. That's where you can find it. So definitely join the Spaces. It's a good time. And then on Sunday—

I'll be having a subscriber Spaces after the regular one, but we finished our last book, which was How to Win Friends and Influence People. I haven't selected the next book yet, so we won't be talking about a book, but we will be talking. And part of the discussion probably will be what should our next book be. So we'll have, we'll have just sort of a smaller, more intimate conversation with subscribers and see how that goes. And, you know, we can talk about whatever they want to talk about. But, um, part of what I want to get to is, you know, where do we go from here in terms of talking about books? Because we seem to like doing that.

So, all right, perfect. All right, you guys, keep working on your affirmations. That's Very important, and then we'll be back Monday. And you guys, if you don't mind, I'm not gonna stay for an Akira song. I have to take care of something. But Monday, we'll definitely do an Akira song. Okay, and maybe I'll see you over the weekend. All right, Owen. Thanks, everybody. Let's do a always say thank you to Scott and Shelley for allowing the show to continue. Don't forget, you guys, to give us a like and subscribe and share us with your friends. Make sure you read the show notes because the Scott Adams team has updated the show notes. So just take a look at that. That's like in the description of the show. Take a quick peek and then let's get out there. Let's do our winner of the day. You guys tag me in your winner of the day. It could be something so simple, but let's just start shouting out people doing good things. Okay. And maybe it'll catch on. I'll miss you too, Metal Seer. All right, you guys. So as always, a closing sip to our beloved Scott. Thanks, you guys. Have a great weekend. To Scott.

Scott.

Bye, everyone.

Bye.

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