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Hand favorite. Yes. All right, we are gonna kick in right now for locals. I see you guys waiting and chatting in the chat. As soon as Walter's picture shows up on my screen, I'm gonna be so excited for you guys. Here it comes.

Look who's here.

Here it comes. Dun dun dun. There we go. Yes. Victory on a Thursday. You guys, look, there's Walter. There he is.

Good morning.

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right. You can, you can send tips right to my X account. I brought you Walter. Thank you. Good night.

Wait a sec, you're in New Jersey, maybe? No.

Yeah, I'm on the Jersey Shore.

So you mean you torture us on the West Coast with the early—

No.

10 for you.

Scott started that shenanigans, not me.

Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you in the West Coast?

Because it's dark here and I got up about 7 minutes ago. Um, so you're going to be treated to, uh, opinions from the unconscious mind. Uh, but they're as good as the conscious type. Of course. Yeah.

You're in Montana, right?

Nope.

I'm in Las Vegas.

Oh, you're in Vegas.

Okay.

Oh,

you look really awake.

He's got that hair too. That's good all the time.

Yeah.

Are we on the air yet? No.

Yeah. Oh yeah, we are.

Oh yeah, without, without the chat streaming there, I wasn't alerted to it.

Oh, you can't see the chat?

Oh, you can't see the chat?

It's better that way. I get distracted, you know. Um,

yeah,

I find the one negative comment and I fixate on it for some reason.

Oh yes, I know what you're saying. Please kill Oh, I can't. Okay, let me make sure everyone's connected. Okay, you are. All right, you guys, so that was our— that was like behind-the-scenes chatter. You just heard it. All right, so wasn't that riveting? Okay, let's, let's get to the sip because my top third of my cup is hot and frothy and I need a sip. So let's do it.

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It's so true. All right, so Walter, so far the chat, uh, SJV loves you. Um, people are, I love when Walter's here, he's the best, we're so happy. And, um, and then for me, somebody tried my coffee method and loved it. Awesome. All right, so good. We're all, we're all sipped up and ready to go. Simultaneous sipping. Okay, so Walter, I'm, I'm always looking for praise now on the thumbnails I create for the show.

Mm-hmm.

Because it's my little project that I add on. So here's today. Somebody asked me to show them during the show so they can see them. This is our little Montana-esque fireside chat with Walter. And if you look close out the window, that one big star might just be a UFO. I'm just saying.

It might.

Hmm. We might.

I don't have the thumbnail on my screen, so I forgot just how cute it is. It had kind of Christmas cabin theme, correct?

Yeah.

Yes.

I asked Chester, my ChatGPT, his name is Chester, and I was like, we want like a cozy Montana cabin vibe where we're just We're sitting down, we're cozy with Walter, and he is just telling us the best stories. And I took it from there, and that's what it gave me. I'm sorry you can't see these things.

Well, let's make that fantasy come true.

Let's do it.

What's the topic? What are we concerned about today?

Well, I mean, I always have concerns, but I guess we might as well get the midterms out of the way because that is thrust upon us now. And, you know, I, I've watched your posts. I know you were posting some stuff about it. And, you know, what would happen if, if we don't hold the House or the Senate or both or one or the other? And what can we expect? And is it going to be impeachments? And

I didn't exactly say any of that. I mean, I'm not into predicting and giving granular, uh, analyses of the new House and Senate and what they'll do and what they won't do. What I will note is that in the now 2 weeks before the election, there seems to be a lot of stuff coming out that the right is seizing on, and I think correctly, um, that suggests there's a plan bigger than all of us if this election gets it all wonky or Maybe they plan to make it wonky. The Stata Republicans come out with all these files suggesting that a lot of national security people and other sort of left activist types have formed a sort of counter-government or something that they're waiting to install after Trump inevitably, or because they bait him into it, becomes repressive, maybe enacts the Insurrection or uses the Insurrection Act to quell riots, which I guess they would be the ones to start. Right. And that is a spooky thing that I'm not used to. I'm not used to calls for Elon Musk's arrest, a private citizen's arrest, or some detention or punishment after the election. I'm not used to the idea that they may declare it all a fraud and go to the state governors for authority over a contested Senate or House or a detested executive branch. So I think something's coming that isn't just an election. And I think it's been coming for a long time because I— I think 2026 is the year that you either capture the flag or don't. AI and technology and other instruments of power are now becoming so sophisticated that whoever holds them in the next couple of years may hold them for a long, long time. So I think it's for all the marbles now in a way that we haven't seen. We're always told every election is the most important.

Yeah.

But there, but there's talk here of changing the very form of our, uh, society and government should certain people be unhappy with it. And, and because they include admirals and people like that, it kind of reminds you of a Hollywood thriller like Seven Days in May or, um, some kind of, uh, Tom Clancy novel almost about a challenge to the federal government. So I'm more apprehensive and confused before this midterm election than I've been ever, almost.

What are, what are your thoughts on, um, and I don't know if you're aware of this, Mitt Romney coming out sort of, uh, sort of quote unquote speaking against Trump for the Ukraine war?

Yeah.

Oh, he can't hear you. Oh, Walter. Okay, I wonder why. So you can hear me, Walter?

Yeah, now I can. Yeah.

Okay. Can you hear Marcela now? Try again.

Can you hear me?

No, I did not hear Marcela.

So ask him about the Mitt Romney thing, the Ukraine war, and the Bushes going for television.

Oh, he can't hear you. Okay, so Marcela's— I don't know why, but Marcela's—

You can translate.

Yes. So I can't speak Spanish like her, but I'll say it in English. Marcela's asking what your thoughts are about Mitt Romney. Coming out and speaking against who? Marcel against Trump?

Yeah.

Well, I mean, that's no surprise. Mitt Romney and Trump have been enemies for a long time. But, uh, and Trump kind of humiliated Romney back when, if you remember, uh,

yeah,

you know, making him come to dinner and teasing him that he might get some kind of cabinet appointment and then he never did and might play some role and then he never did. But When did Mitt speak out? This morning? I didn't hear yesterday.

So, okay. So my question, Erica, is that it's planned. It's not organic. It's deep state. It's the Bushes going voting for Talarico.

Okay. The Bushes yesterday for Talarico. And then Mitt Romney came out yesterday. And what?

And there was a WSG, Wall Street Journal came out.

But I don't understand. So why are they voting against Trump via Senate and Congress races?

So Marcel is saying that's like part of the deep state, like, you know, this coordinated thing. But what, but what would it be for? To what, just trash the country? I, you know, I don't, I don't understand this whole deep state philosophy because It trashes the country for everybody involved.

And you mean why they're not— why these erstwhile Republicans aren't loyal Republicans in the case of Donald Trump's—

Can the audience hear me, you guys?

Can the audience hear Marcella? Walter was having a few issues.

Why is it Robo Goon?

So if I'm out of sync, I'm sorry.

No, that's okay. Yeah, Marcella. I mean, I can hear Marcella. I don't know if the chat can, but so my question is, like, even with They can hear you, Marcella. Even with like Data Republican with her releases. But like, hasn't this been going on for so long that there's like this whole other government happening? I see Obama jetting off to London every time something happens to go talk to who and to coordinate what. And now Ilhan Omar's in trouble and Obama's speaking out, which is just sending red flags. Like, why is he so concerned? Why is he involving himself? Yeah. So it just, uh, it just seems like it isn't new. And I don't know what is new about it, um, because to me, this has been going on since I've been aware of politics. So what's different now than what's been happening is my question that we think.

What's different is, uh, that she got hold of what appears to be an action plan, uh, for this, uh, coming post-election season. It includes real violence, or at least disorder enough that Trump might be tempted to put it down in, you know, what they will call dictatorial ways. It's really a kind of movie that's being built, and we're all in it and can't get out of it. And it may depend on the Democrats winning. It may depend on them losing. They've created such an expectation that they're going to do well that if they don't do well, they'll probably call it, cry fraud. Yeah. In other words, the conventional wisdom that they're going to, you know, take the Senate and the House and so on is a great, um, platform to then, if you don't perform well, uh, on Election Day, cry manipulation, fraud, et cetera. But, you know, they've got committees, they've got organizational structures, they've got timelines, they've got tactics. And I have a source who used to work for USAID, you know, the sort of adjunct of the State Department, maybe of the intelligence services that, let's say, ran color revolutions, you know.

Okay.

Shifted Eastern and Central Asian countries to democracy by a kind of dramatic process of you know, fomenting unrest and, you know, exacerbating divisions, calling elections unsound, and then starting protests that often drew a crackdown, which then became the basis for a kind of coup or a revolution, as, you know, they call it in Colorado. Those people who did that in other countries recognize very clearly what's being done here as what they used to do. As this source told me, These tools work. And, and I think what he meant by that is that we should take seriously the application of these techniques in the United States. We're a little naive, I think, about our immunity to manip— the kind of manipulation we do abroad.

Mm-hmm.

Maybe because we've never brought it home in a concerted and open fashion, but now we are. And To me, it's breathtaking to see, really, to see people lining up and talking about changing the Constitution, getting rid of the Senate, da da da da, shifting power to the states. Traditionally, it was sort of conservatives who liked states' rights. You know, it allowed southern governors to maintain segregation longer than otherwise, and so on. But it sounds like in this plan, it will be the left that's going to bang the drum for states' rights and use its governors, people like Newsom and so on, to create some kind of extra-federal coalition, which they in these documents are very careful to point out doesn't equal secession.

Mm-hmm.

Because they know it sure looks like it. Mm-hmm. And they know it probably does equal it in the minds of non-enthusiasts.

So, um, you know, looking at what's going on in France and Europe, and, um, I feel like perhaps these riots— um, this is not a protest.

Why is France rioting on our election calendar? You know what I mean?

I know, but I think it's going to help us. I think in a weird way it's going to help us because we don't want that shit happening here. And I think that there are more Quiet, normal Americans who do love our Constitution and our way of life that don't answer polls and don't speak out publicly, that are like, if this is foreshadowing, like, I don't want any part of this. And I think a lot of Democrats personally are going to vote for Republicans because the Democrats aren't even Democrats anymore. They're just— they've lost, they've lost all credibility about anything. I just, I just feel like I don't know. I just feel like there's too many normal people that are going to just quietly vote Republican.

Now, I hope so personally, because I don't like this crew. I don't like the new Democratic Party. And I don't like seeing these sort of, I don't know, NGO-style, non-governmental, former governmental you know, retired intelligence official, former admiral, so on, uh, organizations stepping in to create either confusion or some kind of extralegal alternative that their people will follow. Um, you know, uh, maybe the split in the armed forces as to loyalty is the last stage in a color revolution, when you start getting people, you know, confused about who they serve, who their commander-in-chief is. And when you you know, basically get them to mutiny, it's over. I don't think we're at that point. But I also don't think that what's going on in France necessarily is going to help the Republicans. Only because doom, riots, fear hasn't motivated them sufficiently in the past, it seems to me. Sometimes it seems like whoever's craziest wins because they get the momentum on their hands. They get that crazy kind of manic expectation that the revolution is at hand. Whereas I think on the conservative and centrist side right now, it's like a choice between running and hiding and sticking your head in the sand or trying to do something. And sometimes I think people get indecisive and aren't effective when they're operating just out of fear and reaction and defense.

Well, somebody said in the chat that the Democrats they know are just not voting. And, um, you know, I, I do wonder what the voter turnout will be. And plus, we don't know what voter turnout actually is anyway because there's so much fraud. But,

um, it's important for people to realize, and I, I mean, I say this as a former, uh, you know, traditional journalist, Time Magazine, uh, And on Harper's, The Atlantic. Everything that happens before the election is a psychological operation. Everything that happens, the polling, the rumors, the word of mouth, the social media posts, the trends, the little anecdotes that get repeated and go viral, everything is subordinate to that election. And none of it is true in and of itself. It's all instrumental. It's all meant to, you know, depress turnout, encourage turnout, scare the other side, create high expectations. So that if, as I say, there's a disappointment, you can blame some kind of—

Thing.

Nefarious plot. But everything, including the polls. I mean, not only don't I trust the polls, I do trust the polls. I trust them to be nudging people in all the ways that polls can for all the people who can pay for polls. And, uh, there's just no way anybody wants to give you the truth at this point. The truth is neutral. The truth puts people on Uh, you know, equal ground, uh, but tweaking it, telling people things are worse, looking better, whatever, uh, prospects are higher, that gets people to do stuff. And the news now is all about behavior modification. It's not about truth. I mean, truth.

Did you hear today about that Wedgwood polling company that just Did whatever they wanted social experiment?

Listen, I mean, let's go back to why we trust polls in the first place, right? When did we start trusting them? That's the weird thing that we need to examine. Was it, you know, when I, when I was at Princeton University, Gallup polling was in Princeton and it had this academic and high institutional reputation, the Gallup poll. And there was really only one other big national poll, I think it was called the Harris poll. Oh, yeah. And they came on as scientific, and, you know, the science, and so on. But I don't know that their accuracy was ever tested sufficiently. You know, they did a lot of polling that was Testing what's normal in America. How many steaks do you eat? Da da da da da. And polling became a way of understanding what other people do, because as social beings, we always want to know what everybody else is doing because we're always afraid that we're out of step or a little weird or not representative or whatever. So we started trusting this thing called polls to tell us not what we were going to do, but what everybody else was going to do. And What everybody else was going to do affected us. We either, you know, wanted to be with the crowd, or we felt we couldn't beat them and we stayed out of it, or, uh, we went, oh no, the bad thing is going to happen. It motivated us. But trusting polls in the first place was the error. And, uh, like everything else, CBS News polls, Vaccines, whatever. There was a period for boomers when, you know, every one of them was gold-plated. But it's weird now when I think about it, to think that statistics and small samples could tell you what people are going to do, especially when a lot of those people have no intention of telling the truth to a stranger on the phone. Right. So I think we should just throw those things out. They shouldn't affect our behavior at all.

Especially now when communication is so wide open, we don't have to guess what people are thinking anymore. Everyone puts every frickin thought out there in the universe all day long.

Yeah, but we still do. It's chatter. It's chaff. It's confusing. It's a jungle. You know what people really think and which people are real people and which people are AI. opinions are those of actual individuals and which are talking points.

Yeah.

You know, yesterday, for example, there was a spate of calls for Elon Musk to perhaps be prosecuted, jailed, punished, or exiled or something should the Democrats win. And it propagated yesterday across media. You know, you saw a news clip about it. And then an outraged tweet about it, and etc., a podcast excerpt. All of that, none of that was organic. Yesterday was Get Elon Musk Day. That was the theme. Maybe that motivates people who are moved by class conflict, the notion of seeing the world's richest man who just flew a car upside down, you know, at a trade show. What in In the dock, eating from a plastic plate in the cafeteria.

And he's giving away money and stock. Yeah.

And beagles are lonely.

So that was yesterday, and today it will be something else. You know, I don't know. But what people really think may be a bigger mystery than ever, frankly. We're all looking around to see what else you know, what the person next to us thinks. We're all looking to see what celebrities think.

Ugh.

You know, um, we're looking to see what podcasters, I guess, and influencers, the sort of pillars of social media think, but they've become very unreliable. I mean, here, you know, you had Tucker Carlson do as big a swing as, as you can do in, uh, sort of political commentary from sitting next to Trump at the convention to saying, you know, He should be pulled out of office or something. So, but I don't use, I don't use social media as a guide. I don't use polls as a guide. I don't use, you know, the cafe or the Uber driver. Uber drivers are always super conservative. Okay. They come from other countries.

They are.

They don't have opportunity. They become an op— you know, an Uber driver here. basically a small business person. They're a little anti-corporate because Uber keeps taking their cut, uh, you know, slowly eroding it. But basically they're, they're, they're entrepreneurial individuals who get up and work and don't like passing people who aren't working as they, you know, go about their rounds. And, uh, here in Las Vegas at least, they are a kind of conservative force. But I don't know what You know, I don't know what people think if they don't put signs in their windows, which a lot of people do now, to tell you what they think, you know.

Oh, yeah. But I think the important thing is that we all think for ourselves. And it's hard to cut the noise out, but you have to. You know, I always say Scott taught us how to think. And—

But Scott also believed that your opinions were assigned to you, that until you became conscious of how they were installed, Yes. And how the system works, you might mistake other people's opinions for your own. Right. You know, and— but once you are sort of alienated from them or able to see them from the side or don't identify,

you

then have a little bit of control. God bless Scott for that because it's true.

Yeah.

How many of us have someone in their family or maybe their whole family And it feels like Rachel Maddow somehow got into their dreams and programmed them completely. Um, and her sponsors too. And, uh, she, you know, you find people there one day they're against something that they didn't even know existed the day before. So how did that happen?

Yes.

Where did they find that passion? Where did they even find that knowledge?

Well, that's how I see the Democrat Party because, uh, you know, for my friends that were, are lifelong Democrats, I say this all the time on this show, that if you were a Democrat 35 years ago and you're still a Democrat today, you had to twist yourself into a whole different person to fall in line with what the Democrats are doing today. Like, that person can't exist 35 years ago that exists today. So it's like you're like a fraud of yourself because the Democrats have changed so much with their beliefs and how far they would push something— abortion up to 9 months, and, you know, let's pack the Supreme Court and this and that. And it's like, Wow, you would never have co-signed on that, you know, 10 years ago.

When your metaphor for history is progress, uh, the arc of history bends toward justice, uh, you know, things get more fair, just, equal every year. In other words, when you are linked, as the Democratic Party is, to a sense of climbing, constantly climbing a mountain, uh, uh, to to gain greater rights, greater fairness, greater, you know, benefits for people. You're on a one-way street. You're never allowed to say, you know what, I think we can pause now. I think everybody's got enough food help, medical payments.

Never gonna happen.

We've got enough bathrooms. I don't think we need to complicate that any further. We've achieved 3 quarters of our goals and we're going to slow down. No, you've got to keep going. It's a runaway train. It doesn't have brakes unless you keep showing progress, unless the world is still the unjust opponent led by the fascists and the reactionaries and the capitalists that you must be constantly sort of— battling back to keep in its place. Unless you run that narrative, you don't have a party. So now we're off into the— we're off into like fairyland in terms of finding people and situations to apply the injustice framework to finding new rights.

Yeah.

Finding new problems that need to be solved, new opportunities for benefits and so on. I mean, luckily we've been broke for a while, so the Democrats haven't been quite so loud about, um, you know, benefits packages, though they do seem to be making a lot of noise about Medicare, Medicaid for All, um, after having wrecked the— I mean, absolutely wrecked the health insurance market They take the chaos that they created as the basis for Medicare for All. Yeah. And we were told back when that was the plan, and people were like, oh, you know, that's paranoid. That's a little cross-eyed. I was dumb pissed.

I didn't get to keep my insurance, and I liked my doctors and my plan, and it was like, Bye. That's all gone. And we don't qualify as a small business anymore. We, we are a small business, but they say a small business is like 50 people or more. I'm like, no, that's a pretty big business, 50 people. And my insurance has— I mean, it went from like, let's say when I liked it, maybe $800 a month, and now it's like close to $4,000 for 2 people. Yeah. And I don't, and I get nothing. Like I, I, you know, I have a $60 copay and blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, what? And then if I don't take the insurance, you know, God forbid. So it was, it's a mandated thing. And insurance should be, you know, if I want it or I don't want it. So yeah, nothing ever gets fixed. It always goes the wrong direction. And they can never say we were wrong.

So in my personal political awakening and readjustment and course correction, Obamacare was a huge, a huge influence. I was working for The New Republic, a very liberal magazine, back when Obamacare was passed. And I was in tune with the magazine largely. I mean, I lived out in Montana, so I was a little bit more libertarian, I guess, than somebody who lived in Washington, D.C. But I was striding along with them. When Obamacare happened, and I saw instantly that not only were all the promises, um, vanishing, but the market was such that it was only going to go down. I mean, there was no, there was no doubt about what was going to happen. It was going to get more and more expensive. Care was going to get less and less. generous. My doctor immediately said, you know, I don't want any part of this. I'm going to go concierge. I'm going to just charge. And it has run down like that. And that was the premier social program of the Obama presidency. And not just his presidency for a long time, kind of like the The New Deal or the Great Society. Obamacare was right up there, and it is a total frickin disaster.

Yes, it is.

I'm paying $3,000 because my, my union, the Writers Guild of America, Hollywood union, keeps raising the amount that you have to earn to qualify for the union health insurance. In other words, the union can't afford to insure its people anymore. And it's keeping more and more of them out of the insurance pool by raising the earnings standards for participation. When a Writers Guild of America union, one of the most sort of traditionally left-wing unions in the world or the United States, can't afford its own health plan, somebody's really screwed things up. Right.

Oh yeah. Yeah. So then you just compound that with all the other things that your everyday American's facing. I mean, health insurance, and now we're talking about fuel and groceries and travel, and God forbid you have to fix something on your house or your water heater breaks. Everything's just so out of reach.

Yeah, but we're still clinging to the middle-class promises here. You know,

the middle class is paying for everything though.

Yeah, they're paying for everything, but they're also being fleeced like nobody's business. Um, because what the middle class really wants in America is to be left alone at some point, maybe to retire or semi-retire, pay off the house and have some security. What the middle class fears is having its tiny stake that it's worked all its life for taken away in a disaster. So they'll pay anything for health insurance. They'll pay a lot for homeowners insurance, which itself is going crazy. Oh, yeah. Out where I live, just to preserve that little toehold. But there are a lot of people who either formerly qualified as middle class or would have at least in another world tried to be middle class, who aren't playing the game anymore. I mean, to be honest with you, I know a lot of people just don't buy health insurance. And it would be shocking to you how upright and sort of proper they are in other ways. They have nice houses and so on. They can't afford it. They don't want it. They think it's a con and they're not doing it. And slowly but surely, the middle class which, you know, is always hedging its bets and always trying to put a fence around its, you know, modest wealth, is giving up. I see people giving up.

And when you say is giving up, what do you mean by giving up?

Not buying health insurance, not buying car insurance. Not, you know, well, I mean, that's a little bit down the scale, but Yeah. If you go to buy car insurance, there's a huge payment in your policy for non-insured drivers. And I asked my agent once, I said, how many non-insured drivers as a percentage am I protecting myself against? And they said, you don't want to know.

Wow, really?

Like in some places, half. In some places, half the drivers are uninsured.

So in every state, if you get pulled over, you have to show your insurance, right? And if you don't have it, I'm assuming there's a big fine. No, I don't know. I mean, in New Jersey, you have to have it technically, but I don't know.

Yeah, you have to have it. But, you know, there are a lot of people who go from, you know, how can I put it? They go from one crisis to another. They get pulled over, they lose their insurance, or they get a fine, and then they move to the next thing.

Yeah.

And they go from crisis to crisis instead of doing the old middle-class things of ensuring continuity and making a plan and keeping everything on a sort of tight budget. They just open themselves to the gods and go, hey, man, if I get sick, I guess I'm wiped out. Hey, if I get in an accident, well, my car's not gonna be covered.

You wanna be responsible and you wanna do the right things. And the right things are actually bankrupting people. And the right things are unobtainable for a lot of people. And so then you're like, oh, we have to win this election. The Republicans have to lose. to win, and because if they don't win, it's going to be so much worse. And it's like, but like, how, how much worse? Then people start to ask, like, they're saying I get free stuff, which we all know nothing is free. Um, but it's, you know, it, it got to the point for me, I've owned several businesses, and I just remember one of them I— when I, uh, Obama was president, and that, that's when he had that big you didn't build that speech. And I was like, this MFer, like, Excuse me, like, I built my business and everything else. Like, don't tell me what I'm doing. And then it was like, oh, and by the way, if you're making a little bit more money, we're gonna tax you this much more. And I was like, okay, so there's no incentive for me to do better, to make more money, to employ more people, because it's, you know, so the incentive is to do less, stay stagnant. And I feel like people kind of slid into that, and I don't feel like people ever got out of that because you're penalized so much for doing better. They take more from you. You're expected to do more, give more, whatever it is. So the election matters for me because I'll tell you why. For me personally, people will say I'm phobic No, I am petrified of Islam. I'm not an Islamophobe. I am petrified of Islam taking over our country. This is what I see. I see it happening. I see them like instilled in their values and the Constitution have nothing to do with each other. And they want to change all of it and have their own, you know, way. And so that's one of my huge fears. And my other fear is socialism, communism.

Where, where, where is it? Just to interrupt slightly.

Yeah.

Where does that fear come from? I'm not saying it's erroneous. I'm not saying it's implanted. But where did it come from?

It started literally with 9/11 when I became aware of Islam. Nothing to do— I'm not even saying anything to do with the attack itself. But that's when you started to hear about like other cultures and, you know, other places. And then you started to learn about God, it was like right— it was like immediately after 9/11. I don't know what it was, but they, you know, I was watching a program and they were saying how, you know, Islam's plan is to conquer the world, you know, to just have like world dominance. They will take a 500-year plan to do it if they have to do it, but their, their plan is like as long as it takes. You just kind of spread yourself out until you just start adding numbers and adding numbers and adding numbers. And, you know, and then I dug into it more over the years and I just— see that that's actually what's happening. And you see it with our politics. There's politicians in there. I see a lot of churches burning down and mosques being erected. I see a lot of cities all over the world that want their own little Islam nation and their Sharia, and they now have Islamist police officers and everything else. And so in New York right now, Nate Friedman just did a piece where the police that are Muslim can just pull their cars over and leave them on the street, and they go into a mosque for an hour to pray. And it's like, no, sorry, like, someone's being robbed. Well, it's time for me to go pray. And I'm like, wait a minute, like, what's happening? And then you see like all, you know, flags from Islamist nations flying. And I'm just like, where is the American flag? Where's our Constitution? Where are people saying like, no, you can't have Sharia law in this 5-mile vicinity? Like, that's not a thing. Thing. But it's happening everywhere. And it is a takeover. And I'm petrified of it. Because they have a long-term plan. And we are not repopulating as Americans. We're just not, we're down on that. And they are like, implant, like planting generational Islam, like at rapid pace. So they're going to outnumber us So that's, that's the kind of things that worry me. And

okay, you know, I don't, I don't think about it in those terms exactly. I mean, there are obviously congressional districts, Ilhan Omar's district, various districts in Michigan and so on, which have become majority Islamic, I suppose. Though I don't know if Islam is the, is the label we should There are Iraqis, there are Syrians, there are Jordanians, there are people of different national origins. They only become fundamentally Islam when they're fundamentalist, you know, believers. In other words, there are some Christians who think that, you know, Christianity should rule the country from the top down. It should be installed installed in the government. We should be a theocracy. We're a Christian nation. Da da da da. But to be Christian doesn't necessarily endorse the view that our leaders have to be, you know, that way. And I don't know that Islam across the board is necessarily as driven to take over as in a, you know, take over secular government as we're being told. We don't have quite the problem that France does, for example, you know.

Yet.

Had former colonies. We don't have former colonies. I live in a city of immigrants. There are a lot of Islamic people here in Las Vegas. I don't see separatism as a big problem here, to be honest with you. It seems to be in the Midwest where they want to pack these congressional districts. But And also, I was just in Minnesota, not in the Twin Cities, and there are absolutely a lot of immigrants who are Islamic, I guess, by faith or, you know, cultural background. But outside the Twin Cities, they were kind of blending in, and certainly in Vegas. So I'm not quite as knee-jerk afraid of some Islamic takeover. I'm more afraid of those activists in coalition with something like the DSA and—

Sure.

And in coalition with other groups that feel aggrieved.

Well, they're in line. They have the same mission, just destroy it all.

Well, yeah. So, so as an ingredient in that, in that movement, in this coup-like plan that we've seen sort of emerge as an element in the wedge, this revolutionary wedge they're putting together, I'm concerned. But I'm not concerned about America becoming an Islamic country in some fashion, or, you know, any state, one state being absolutely dominated by it. Not yet.

Yeah. And, you know, I stopped doing prequels Qualifiers because I just got tired of it of being like, oh, you know, not all this and not all that. You know, I'm just over that. Like, it just you just have to assume I know the difference between good and bad and this and that. But you know, the thing is with Islam is if you are if you practice Islam, you're radical. There's

there's but but but but no no no no. But Erica, we we just have been fighting in Iraq, in Afghanistan. in Kuwait before Iraq, and so on, arm in arm with the Islamic world and, and, you know, Arabs, Arabic-speaking people, and so on, to suddenly make them the great, you know, boogeyman, the threat that's coming against—

I have no—

After a lot of these, a lot of the Islamic immigrants here are soldiers that we've brought back from our wars, you know. Um,

but they're not compatible with the Western culture, and that's why I think we have a problem. We imported too many cultures here, and, and when they come here, they come here with their ideas and their problems. Like, if you import 2 gangs from Venezuela and they come to America, they're still gangs here in America, you know. People want to bring their culture with them, and I get that, but it's fine For Iraq and Afghanistan.

I'm more concerned about the, you know, I live in the middle of an urban center. I'm more concerned about the gangs that are bringing OxyContin into the country. Sure.

Same.

I think they're doing more present damage. I have a kind of faith that America is a stronger chemical than others think. I think it can break down a lot of, a lot of lumpy things into a broth. And I think traditionally, though, there are separatist groups and maybe, you know, at the extreme, the Amish or something, that doesn't necessarily harm the country at large when people decide to go have their separate peace. It's when they gather together in these coalitions that look proto-revolutionary that I worry. And frankly, it's not Islam that's leading the DSA. It's good old New Englanders, people at Harvard, people from the thinking elite classes that we call white. And, you know, they scare me more.

Well, I mean, listen, you know, I am a pretty loving person, and I am kind to all people. But if, you know, if you say to me, like, what, what are my concerns? That's, that's my concern. That's, that's a big one for me. And of course, there's others, and I don't lose sleep over it. But I am very much worried about it, just Because anyway, but that's okay. So listen, Walter, if I don't, if I don't say the word UFO to you before our time runs out, I'm in big trouble. Okay, great. So, and I love that whole discussion. And it's just stuff to think about. And everybody's got their own shit, you guys, and everyone's worried about different things. And, you know, so maybe Walter's take gives comfort to you, and I'll take some comfort from it that he's not worried like I am. You know, and just everybody just, you know, be aware of your— what's around you. But okay, so Walter.

Yes.

UFOs. A lot of talk about the UFOs. There was like a moment where we kept seeing all these images out of like Iran and whatever. Who knows what that was? What is happening? Is something going to be disclosed after the midterms? What are we thinking? And that man who's been going around saying that he's seen the ships and the aliens, is he still alive 5 days later?

Jay Stratton, the book author? Yeah, he's very alive. He's on every TV show and every Twitter thread, and he's being welcomed. Now, every time I come on, you ask me about UFOs, and every time I basically give you the answer that right around the corner, uh, there may be news, uh, things may be changing, stay tuned. And, uh, then 3 weeks later, it's the same deal.

Yeah.

And it's been that way for like 70 years or something like that. Um, you know, ever since we knew there was a UFO problem or a UFO, uh, phenomena, we were waiting for it to be Explained and for disclosure and for the truth to be told. And I think that started in about 1948, and it's still happening. But I will still play the game, even though I know it, you know, is a low-odds game for any kind of thing.

I forget what you said, Walter. Have you ever seen one?

Yes.

Okay. Okay.

Yeah, I saw, I saw the, you know, proverbial black triangular craft. And Utah, the silent black triangular craft. I, you know, I live out west and I drive all over the place and I'm very curious. So I have had more exposure to these phenomena than you might imagine for a seemingly rational person.

Do tell.

But I will tell you that, yes, in fact, there was an expectation that Trump might You know, give a speech, a more comprehensive and more candid speech than he's given. We are not alone. We have unexplained craft that have crashed in America, that kind of speech, maybe with very crisp photos for once that don't look like, you know, a potato sinking through swamp water. And Yet, uh, he didn't. It's probably too late to do anything like that before the election. It would look weird. There would be no time to process it. We'd have to set it aside. It might seem like it was some kind of interference, uh, to bring— Right. The cosmos, you know, into the last week of an election. But among the people who hope that there is going to be news and are trying How can I put it? Among the whistleblower types who really would like, who believe there is more to know, who tell us that there in fact are bodies, craft, a long history, a thing called the Legacy Program that is an open secret. Among those people, there is a hope that maybe before January he will give a speech after the election, but before, you know, the new Congress is seated and so on. And that it might be something like a bipartisan speech, if such a thing, you know, is possible in America. Not a bipartisan speech, but a bipartisan movement for candor and openness and, you know, empathy.

Impossible, Walter. We'll never have that again.

Well, strangely, you're probably right, because the Democrats used to be just as interested in UFOs as anybody. It was equal opportunity obsession, but they've been very quiet about it suddenly since it appears that Trump is in control of it. And, you know, it's his card to play. So maybe we will have politicized UFO news, you know, Trump saying we have something and other people saying he's crazy. And yeah. You know, whatever.

All right, I have a question, Walter. Were there multiple Joe Bidens? Like everybody was saying, like they sub— remember that really tall Joe Biden that came out one time to the Rose Garden? He was like 6 feet tall and Jill looked so small next to him. Sometimes his face looked different. People would be like, he has a mask on, like something's weird, it's not really Joe Biden. Do you think there was more than one?

Well, I mean, I think conventional security for a president involves doubles. They don't tell you about it, but it does. It does abroad for other leaders. It involves a lot of misdirection and so on. But in Biden's case, it seemed there was a possibility the guy himself wasn't coming to the office some days and they had to have a warm body shadow in the window at the White House or something. And so from the compilations of photos, it looks like there were more than one body double. A double means 2, but maybe there were quadruples. I don't know. It is a national security issue, so nobody's going to say anything. Right. I mean, if the president's out cold one day, you don't want the world to know. I guess in some ways it's rational to put an actor out there. Yeah. To keep doing it and to pretend it's not chronic, though, is abusive. And that's what we experienced. Abuse of our reality principle. That we have to ask that and wonder is a very sad commentary on the Biden administration. I mean, that it was that erratic, that unreliable, that he was thought to be that, I don't know, demented, that we wonder this. We should be able to have more faith than that.

I agree. Now, I just, I really wanted to add, like, I would love to just ask you all those, like—

Meanwhile, who could really imitate Trump? That's the problem.

I know, right?

I mean, if you had the job, uh, and I'm sure someone does, you know, to get in and out of limos and so on, uh, you, you really would have to act quickly and not let anybody get a long look at you. Um, so it's funny, no one has said, is there more than one Trump? No, that's, that's my answer to your question. For some reason, it seems plausible that there was more than one Biden. Doesn't seem plausible that there's more than one Trump.

I know he's got that posture and like his His movements, man. I'm sure somebody could get it down, but they'd have to give him like a prosthetic, like back and everything, and the whole. I don't know, but I always wanted to ask everybody that. You know, like what are you thinking? Like when we're home, like that's not Joe Biden, and this guy's two feet taller, and da da da da da. And it's just like what does Walter Kern think? You know, I like I like to know.

He had so much plastic surgery, you know, for one thing that he didn't look like anyone. in a way. Um, and you know, in 2020 when he was running, I went to an off-the-record dinner with one of these secret tech billionaire types who, who get the biggest experts to sit at the dinner table and give everybody inside dope. And there was a, a neurosurgeon at this dinner, and I tell you, it was one of the titans that threw it, who said, who explained that Joe Biden had twice had his skull, the top of his skull taken off for brain surgery. This is true. You know, I think it happened back when, maybe even in the '90s. And he said anybody who's had their skull opened twice has lost and will lose faculties just as an almost mechanical function of the surgery and the trauma and so on. Sure. And that it was kind of a scandal that someone who had had this procedure more than once was even being run for president in the first place. Yes,

I remember because, oh my God, he had a brain aneurysm. Didn't he have like some kind of an aneurysm, you guys? And I was like, how does that not disqualify him? Like, they're so picky about everything with their medical and their background, and he was already sick. slipping a few steps before he's president?

You know, it's sometimes I adopt what I might call notional paranoia. I don't really believe it. But I imagine a conspiracy where I don't think there is one, just to sort of clarify what I think is going on. With Biden, you had a feeling that the presidency was not that of a person. It was a committee. It was not just his wife, but top advisors. The public didn't really know their names, in fact. But at various points, there were announcements that, you know, the people around the president have decided. And some— the paranoid side of me thinks the Biden presidency was a stage in getting us used to the notion that we're ruled by a group, that we're ruled by the party, that we're ruled by, you know, the deep state and to, you know, stop— how can I put it? Stop this metaphorical presidency as kingship myth. Much better when a bunch of experts do things. And I think it got us used to the president not being the president.

I agree.

Such that, and it, you know, it contrasted so harshly with Trump because Trump, sometimes you get the idea that Trump doesn't have any advisors that are any that he listens to, you know, that it's the opposite case from Biden. The guy, the guy's doing it all himself at 2 in the morning and then starting at 6. So

yeah, it does appear that way. So Walter, what is, what is something that's been floating around in your head that is maybe a hoax or a distraction or something that would be kind of spicy that you think the rest of the public isn't hip to right now? Like, what are, what are we missing that you feel like you're seeing?

Oh man. Well, I mean, if you see it on social media, you're probably meant to see it at this point. I don't think anybody discovers anything innocently there. And I think most dot connecting is nudged or prodded these days. But out on the street of Las Vegas and out on the byways and back roads of America, what I see is people concerned about their kids more than anything. People concerned that whether their kids are 7 or 17 or 27, they may not have the road to a home. They may not have the road to any kind of stake in society.

Mm-hmm.

You know, and we were talking about the middle class earlier. What I see happening, it's not a hoax, it's not a conspiracy, not a trend. It's just a, you know, a phenomenon or a situation that's developing more commonly is people trying to decide, do they push for this kind of middle-class security? Do they spend all their money on insurance? Do they sacrifice? Do they work harder? Do they, you know, invest more in the system that appears to be failing? Or do they pull back and just, you know, just as there are Democrats who may be Republicans now, there are some Republicans who are becoming Democrats because they're like, damn it, the state better take care of everything because I can't afford it. I gave up. You know, I used to be one of those rugged individualists. I used to never want to take relief or whatever they called it in the Depression, welfare, they called it whatever. I don't do that. Now they're starting to say, hey, man, if I want to have a roof over my head, and, you know, I'm gonna have to get something from the government, I'm gonna have to break down that prejudice or resolve. And so especially in the case of children, I think people are like, Hey, can somebody help my kids buy a house? Like, what's going on here? Are they going to have a home any time soon? And that's my concern for my kids too, frankly.

Sure. No, I see a lot of my friends of all ages who are really working hard, I believe, to make sure they can leave enough money to their kids So they can have a full life because I, I don't think they have the confidence that the future will be enough for the kids to, you know, like you said, have a home and make it on their own because it's just become—

But, you know, we keep being told by people like Elon Musk or some of these, um, heads of the big AI companies that we're 2 years away from money becoming meaningless. You know, um, you won't remember Elon saying you won't have to save. Uh, you might not have to work if you have an Optimus robot and, you know, a little UBI. Everything will take care of itself. So it seems like we're poised on these 2 different scenarios. One, uh, technology and, and artificial intelligence and robotics and so on are gonna kind of land us all on easy street. Uh, the, um, the future of saving, scrimping, Working hard, sacrificing, maybe over, and here comes abundance. And on the other side, you have this complete, oh my God, you know, we're never gonna climb into, you know, even the kind of respectability that our great-grandparents who immigrated here had.

Right. Yeah, it's scary. Okay, so in closing, 2 quick things. They don't have to be quick, it's up to you. But so, I see that you and Matt Taibbi are joining together for election night coverage. Is that what it is?

Yeah.

Tell us.

Election night, maybe election afternoon. I have no idea how long that will go, but we're gonna do a live, you know, double-cast podcast and cover, you know, the Senate and Congress races. We haven't been together since last February. We had a very mysterious ending to our podcast, Very sudden, lots of people speculating. It really wasn't that interesting a story. I guess we'll have to tell it, but it's gonna be a treat to be back with him. I miss doing the show with him. Aw, yeah. And we have a sense of humor that doesn't work with other people. It only works when we're together. It's a lock and key situation. make jokes at the expense of all these candidates that night. I mean, I think I'd pay money for the privilege.

So where, where will that be? Like what, what podcast?

Well, America This Week, which was the name of our podcast, always ran through Matt's Substack.

Okay.

But, but I think it also appeared on YouTube and other places. I don't— in other words, I don't think you have to subscribe to Matt's Substack to see our—

I'll grab it from you and promote it, you know, so everybody can watch you guys. So we'll make sure we put that out there so people want to watch you and Matt. It will be—

it will be the best election coverage going. I mean, I promise you. And, and, you know, we have the ability to put up C-SPAN without fair use problems, so we can follow all the returns. You're not You're not going to be out of the loop if you watch Matt and Walter. Uh, but you will be free, blessedly, of the, all, you know, Karl Rove on Fox and, uh, you know, Rachel Maddow and all those people with, uh, lighted red and blue maps pointing to them and running around and, you know, a big sourpuss

on their face. And yeah, and I'm sure it'll be more entertaining than Andy Cohen and Anderson And Cooper on New Year's Eve also, right? Because you'll be doing shots and all that. So that's going to be fun.

Well, I don't do shots. Matt did once, and he actually became intoxicated on the air, and it was a bit of a problem. Um,

oh my gosh. So you guys, you never know. You never know. We could, uh, sponsor shots over there for Matt. Um, and the other thing I wanted to ask you about, for you to tell all of our listeners about— a lot of people jumped onto your page now for County Road. Can you tell us all about that and what that is?

County Highway.

Highway, Highway, Highway.

Yes. Okay, so I, I'm a partner in a newspaper, which is really a magazine. It comes out 6 times a year. Uh, it's called County Highway. It exists as a physical newspaper. It's mailed to your house. It doesn't exist on the internet. There is an archive where you can see old stories, but they can't be shared or, you know, go viral or anything. This is an old-fashioned newspaper. But it's really a literary newspaper in that our stories aren't newsy. They're, I guess, what you'd call general interest, or, you know, we'll write about all kinds of things, but our bias is to not write about New York City, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles. So we call it County Highway because there, there is a country connecting those 3 cities and things do happen there. The people are interesting, and in fact, much more interesting because they're not, you know, monolithic like the residents of, you know, the leading metropolises. So please subscribe. You can get to it from Twitter, countyhighway.com. But as I say, it comes in the mail, and it's got some of the best writers in America. You know, there's a lot of unemployed writing talent in America. Easy to pick up. And we've got the very finest writers, and I think the most interesting stories. And we don't have this polar political agenda at all. We did actually a study of our readers, and they are absolutely split in the exact same way as the country in general.

I love that. So it's a county highway, And my subtitle for it is A Breath of Fresh Air. So it— and also you get that, that you hold the tangible thing in front of you, you open the page, you read it. It's like a thing that you have. I love that.

Yeah, highest quality paper, highest quality ink. It comes in a special wrapper, so if it lands on your doorstep and the neighbor turns on the sprinkler, it won't be ruined. Um, and, and it's really a good deal, and It's a kind of sideways look at America that I think will refresh you and hearten you. It doesn't mean to be encouraging. It's not a nostalgia magazine. It's not a sentimental magazine. But when you start reading stories that you didn't expect from places you aren't familiar with, you start to go, you know, we're a stabler society than they're reporting.

All right. I need to get myself a subscription because I could use some Stability. Are you the editor? Holsey wants to know.

Um, no, I'm what's called the editor-at-large. That means it's my job to go out and publicize things and talk about the magazine and sort of be the front man. Uh, the editor-in-chief is David Samuels, my partner. Um, so he sort of puts the headlines on things and gets everything to fit. And does a lot of the assigning of stories and so on. And I'm, you know, I'm out there on the road singing the praises. I'm the music man.

Well, you just did it now. See, editor-at-large, he just at-large'd right here. Amazing. Walter, thank you so, so much again for being here at the Scott Adams School. We— I tell you all the time, and I'll say it again, I told him beforehand that you guys absolutely adore and love Walter as much as I do. And we love when you come on. It is such a treat for us. And I'm telling you, as soon as we hang up this show, they're going to say, get him back on. When can he come back on again? So— I

feel like I fell down on the UFO report this— nah, but, but, but I will repeat, there is active, uh, an active, um, movement in, uh, Washington to get Trump to really give the big speech soon after the election. And I, I've seen even drafts of the speeches that he might give. So it's happening.

So maybe you can come back after the midterms and we'll see if that has moved at all. We can talk about the midterms. We could talk about your night reunited with Matt and how that went. And we'll find out all sorts of other things. We'll see where we stand there. But thanks for bringing some calm to me and some stability today. And just for always being you. You're an amazing human being and we really adore you. We really adore you, Walter. I can't tell you enough. Yeah. Okay, so you guys, let's have a closing sip. We'll say thank you to Scott and Shelley for allowing this show to continue. Thank you everybody for being here. And let's have a super amazing closing sip to our beloved Scott Adams. We miss him so much. And we'll be back tomorrow morning. Marcel and I will be back tomorrow morning. All right, guys, to Scott. And Walter, I'm going to kick you out of the show because we're going to do a little closing goodbye song with everybody. And, um, we'll talk soon. Thank you.

Okay, bye.

Bye. You guys, Stella, right? Chunk, she's like a little time Nazi coming in here. Um, how much do we love him? So much. I, I adore him. You guys are so cute. So why don't we do a little Akira song? I feel like I didn't get to see you guys in the chat today too much, so What should we do? Let's do what you think about the most, you guys, and I'm gonna watch you guys in the chat and hang out.

All right, I saw a story in the South China Morning Post. It asks the question, can you train your mind to be happy? And it says yes, expert says. Would you like to know how? Would you like me to train you with my hypnosis experience into how to be happier? All right, well, I won't hypnotize you. I'll just tell you how to do it. Number one, whatever you think about the most is who you are. And you can change what you think about the most. It's easy.

Watch. Think about your favorite animal. Could you do it? Of course you could. You all had a different favorite animal, but when I said think about your favorite animal, you could do it. So that was when your brain was focusing on a cool thing that you liked. Favorite animal probably made you a little bit happy. I mean, just a little bit. But during During that time you were thinking about your favorite animal, you weren't thinking about some bad thing that could have potentially put you in a bad mood or affect your energy or make you anxious or anything. Whatever you think about the most is who you are.

It's who you are. It's who you are. What you think about the most is who you are. Who you are. Who you are.

So I just proved to you that if you just remember as a habit to change your thinking from whatever negative stuff to positive stuff, it was really that easy. Just think about stuff you like. Everybody likes something. Think about a person you'd like, experience you had, a walk on the beach if that's your thing. Just think about it and reduce the shelf time that you give to the bad thoughts, because how much you think about something is what creates the structure in your brain And it becomes semi-permanent. You can usually change it, but some it becomes a little semi-permanent. So the more you think about positive things, the happier you're going to be.

Robo, you made it! Don't leave now. Aww, look at the baby cats over there on the putting green. I'm happy to say I got to putt on Scott's putting green. I did pretty good. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, guys, so that was a lot of fun. I don't know, Walter was having technical difficulties, so I'm sorry you couldn't hear Marcella. She did have to leave, um, at the halfway mark, so that was planned. Um, but tomorrow you'll be able— you'll be able to hear all of us, so Thank you. Oh, thank you, Rocky. That's really sweet. I appreciate that. Thank you. Oh, I know I have the pictures of Gary and Roman in my phone. I have to just move them over here. But they're so cute. They're, they're really, they're really great. And they're like fully happy, adjusted. And they have those 2 big golden retrievers they live with, which is so cute. And they all pile on the dog bed with the dogs and everyone's sleeping on top of everyone. It's very sweet, very sweet. They're doing great. Um, oh, you guys, thank you for picking up calendars last night. I made a post on X about the Dilbert calendar. Um, you can see the wall calendar behind me, and then the desktop one is here. Um, we're also going to show you a video about how they were made. That's coming up. But, you know, definitely grab these. There's already fakes on Amazon, but the links to the, the only official and authentic one, um, are always in the show notes for all these shows. So if you go to like the show description, like what's happening in the show today, the, the links are in there. Okay. Um, oh, Metal Seer, Scott's cats, uh, stayed with the family. They're with Scott's stepdaughter. And so they already knew her like crazy, crazy well, like just as much as they knew Scott. So they, they didn't have too much of an adjustment as far as, you know, Um, where they were living, so they were— they're always with the family. Ah, yes. Um, what's that, Mary Kay? I didn't see what your question was. Oh no, it's Scott's stepdaughter has them, and they're, they're cute. They're so happy and friendly and loving. Okay. Oops, sorry, Stella. I didn't know you went under the desk. I just sort of tapped her on the nose. Um, all right, you guys, I have a date with my friends. Can you believe it? I'm gonna be getting out and doing some friend stuff now. And I appreciate all of you guys so much for being here. We miss Owen this week. He'll be back Monday. And Marcella and I will be back tomorrow to finish the week again. Where does the time go? It's crazy. And I hope for those of you that were able to come in last night, we did a replay of our interview with Gad Saad. I was just thinking about all the things he taught us then and why let that just go by once? I mean, that was So informative, and a lot of people weren't watching the Scott Adams School at that point. Maybe you missed the show that day, and maybe some new eyes got on it, but he had so much good information. So we did a live replay of the show, and we had the chat going live, and I'm going to be doing that moving forward. I don't know how often, but every once in a while, because we've had some amazing guests with amazing shows, and it would be fun to rewatch them together again, and you can still chat with your friends on all the platforms. So. All right, you guys, I'll see you tomorrow morning. Have a great day. Be useful. Have a good time and be careful. Okay, bye. Bye.