EP 28 - How Tilly Became a Coach at 3AM from China!

Oh my goodness. Shininess. Welcome back to the Shiny minds show with Dr. Shiny. Today I have another awesome guest. Another shiny mind. TV Aguilar. Welcome to the show. Tilly, are you ready to shine?

Come on, it's a shiny one.

You got it.

Hi, Shinee. It's great to be here. Thank you for hosting me on your show. That's really very exciting.

So looking forward to this conversation. And then before we dive into all the amazingness and the fabulousness, would you like to please introduce yourself to everyone who is watching or listening to us and then perhaps tell them how we met?

Yes.

Yeah, of course.

I'd love that. So I'm an educator. I'm an educational leader. This is my 32nd year actually, and 28th year in leadership. So currently I'm in China. So I work at an international school as the middle and high school principal. And this is the educator and the leader part of me. But currently the exciting part who I am is I am a neuroshine technology coach. Right. Certified and pursuing my ICF certification. So, so excited.

Yes. A principal in the house, ladies and gentlemen.

Yes.

She's not like the principles that we used to know. I mean, at least on my behalf, you know the principals and then they kind of like scare you and all that. Obviously, as you see her, you want her in your school. You want. You want her like right next to you. She's. She is a certified nourish coach and a principal. So I want to actually start with something. Tilly, remember when you were the coach of the week? Obviously, right away. And when I shared it on social media and then I tagged you, like, it was incredible. Like, it was a lot of people liking it and commenting it. Like, you must have a lot of students.

Is.

Is that. Is that what happened? Are they your students who are liking and commenting on Instagram?

I am not sure they are my students, but they are friends. They're professionals that I work together or currently. So I'm lucky to be surrounded by amazing people. I believe they are them. I'm not sure. I wasn't following the likes. I'm really happy to hear that. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah. You actually broke the records.

Like, it's.

It's. Yeah, it's. It's a lot of likes and comments. I'm like, people love her, obviously. Thank you.

And I love people.

Yes, obviously there is that love flow going on between you and your connections. It was beautiful to witness. And obviously that just says so much about you. And then that's how. How you showed up and I mean, I have a lot to say about you. The. The first thing that I would love to mention to everybody because this is also, I hear a lot of times, and as a. As a rejection, as an excuse for everybody. If you have a goal that you know, you want to go after but. And then if you're making time, money, location, all that as an excuse, I'm getting goosebumps. I have Tilly to bust all your assumptions because she joined my nourishing technology coaching education program from 12 to 3am on her midnight for 15 weeks. Right, Tilly?

Right. Right.

Can you please share your experience about that and inspire people?

Yeah, I would love that, actually. Yeah, I think it's inspiring for anyone. And maybe I should start with how we met because it's kind of aligned.

Yeah, absolutely. Yes.

Yeah. So I was looking for a coaching training, actually, because it's my job, you know, it's part of my job. It should be. You know, I believe I've been coaching like every day, but not in a trained way. So you know me, I'm kind of a perfectionist. I don't want to say that I'm not sure if it's a good thing, but it's okay.

So it is a good thing for you because you are really doing everything perfect.

Yeah, that's what I'm.

You're the definition. You're like the textbook definition of it.

Oh, gosh. Thank you, Shiny.

Thank you.

We should do this more often.

I'll be here next week too. Absolutely.

There's a lot out there, but I had to pick the right one. So thanks to beautiful Kate, our mutual friend, I asked her and then that, Tilly, this is the only option. Knowing you, knowing Shiny, you're a match. So this is the perfect wipe that you and a trainer might have. I said, okay. So I reached out to you. And then, to be honest with you, I'm in China. Right. I just checked because I wasn't sure where NSD was located. I said, oh, gosh, it's in US And I checked the times and there's no way, no way this is happening. So I felt sorry. I just left it there. So. And then it was February and you reached out to me again. There was an emailing back and forth in the meantime, but I said, okay, thank you. But I can't because of 12am and 3am think there's no way because I have a full time job. I get up at 6, right. But then in February, you send me an email. Everything happens for a reason. I said, okay. I'll give it a try. Let me have a zoom call. And in that zoom call, you'd literally busted everything.

I asked, did I? Oh, my God. I love you. What did I say?

So you said, you know, I was hesitant because of the time zone and everything. Will I be able to do that? Like, it's not easy. And then you said, it's all here. It's your brain and your mindset, Tilly. If you want to do it, it's all here. And I said, okay, there's nothing I can say to this. You really got me there. And next thing I know, next week I was in your session. And for almost three months, Right? It's including the business school, I did not miss one session from 12 to 4am Actually, in the beginning, wasn't it four hours? I can't even remember now, but it was really long. Or three.

Maybe the mentor coaching sessions were four hours. Yes.

Enter coaching was four hours. Right?

Yeah.

First of all, I should say you and I and NST and I meant to meet. It was time.

That is so true.

That is how I'm feeling. Truly.

Yes. Me too.

And nsc, literally, I knew I was a coach by nature. I knew it. I always felt it. But, you know, going through life and when life throws things at us, you tend to forget our strength. We tend to forget our resourcefulness. And that was the time when I say, like, I lost balance. That was the moment. That was a mental state I was in at that time. You and NST literally held my hand and pulled me out of there.

Oh, my God.

And took me through everything. So I can't say this is just a training. I don't want to say therapy because this is not what we do.

Yeah.

It touched me from 12 to 3. I went to bed, woke up at 1. I thought I was going to be jet, like every week. Not at all. I was more energetic the next day. Wow. Really? It was amazing. So this is not just a training or a course. To me, it's now a lifestyle. I'm addicted.

Thank you. I am getting goosebump after goosebump after goosebump hearing your words. Wow. Because I know that you are showing up. Right. And then I know that you are there. But we didn't get a chance to talk about what happened the day after. Now I'm hearing it.

Exactly. This is the first time we're talking about that. And literally it was. I couldn't believe myself. Like, I'm not in my 20s. Right. I need sleep.

But although you look like that. Thank You.

That's what I wanted to hear too.

Thank you. You see, this is it. This is why I wanted Tilly to share her story for our audience. Like if you are watching, if you are hearing what she's saying, she is not in her 20s, although she looks like that. She is somebody who is dedicated. And then when she shows up open heartedly, full heartedly, she was not only going galactic in my language with her coaching skills and then she was also obviously rocking everything else in her other areas of your life. So this is so fascinating to hear. So for anybody, Tilly, who are feeling like, okay, time is a concern. Time is something. I mean, that's Tilly. She must be special. That must be something about Tilly. You know, we go to that default thinking, right? So that must be something that she has special going on. Can you just share what is it about you or what is it about the mindset shift that you experienced that made you commit to such an intense program for, for literally three, four. It's actually four months, Tilly.

Four months.

Yeah. Four months. Because it's 15 weeks.

Yes.

Yeah. Can you please give your thinking, your feeling and inspire some people? Please.

Yeah. So I need to be honest here.

Yes.

So when, yeah. When I first wanted to learn about coaching. Yeah. I don't want to say I was probably like ignorant. I want to say naive. So I didn't know what I got myself into. So I wanted to learn coaching, but I didn't know what I got myself into. It was like scary at my times. Like, is, are these the things that I'm gonna do? Like, do I have to hit these hours and everything? At first. And then, then I found out, like, everything is worth it because I was there. I showed up there to touch people's lives. But actually this course, the friends that I took the course with, they touched my life. I feel like I'm surrounded by a support system.

Wow.

I felt safe in that environment. And actually it was not like getting up at 11:30am in the evening, at night, in the morning. And then it was more than that. So it is nothing special about me actually just giving it a try, giving it a chance and then going with the flow and see the good cause in that. Like, why is this happening? Why is this coaching? So I wasn't expecting that intense course, but I'm saying it in a positive way because in your episodes, you're providing every single little opportunity and help the videos. I didn't even have to read a thing. I, I'm. I was going out on My walk, listening to the videos and learning and unlearning like it was an amazing, amazing learning curve. So I'm not a superhero or anything. Anyone who want to transform in life personally, doesn't matter what job you're doing. It does not matter at all. Just show up for yourself. Be there. I thought I was gonna do this for other people, but no, I think it's mostly something happened to me.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That. That's the key. That's the key. Oh, my gosh. You said it so well. Thank you so much, Tilly. And it is not even also about, obviously, our coaching education program. Of course. I want everybody to come and experience their transformation with me and Celia. It's not even about that. It's about any dream, any goal that you have in your heart, anything that makes your heart sing. And so yet you put money, time, other excuses. I'm getting goosebumps. Oh, my God. Whatever that you put as an obstacle, as a block, as a barrier in front of you, they're going to block you. And then you will never meet the version of you that you could become. And that's the thing that we want to avoid. And that's what Tilly is sharing with you. And that's what we actually want to share with you. Inspire you. Whatever that you desire, your heart desires, go after it. Give it a chance. Give yourself a chance. Bet on yourself. Right, Tilly?

Absolutely. And the most important of it is that there is no obstacle. There is no such thing. All you need to do is to give yourself a chance to switch your mindset.

Yes. Boom. That's it.

Words. What? It can't happen. No, that's not possible. There's no such thing.

Yes, that's it. What happens to us? It's what we do with what happens.

Absolutely. And if you're even struggling with that, this training is because it helped me to. You know, I was one of many others who are listening or watching us, you know, what if? What if? What if? But, but, but. Right? But no. Going through the sessions, I was like, I had a lot of aha moments myself. Oh, I should change that. Oh, this is how I can change this. This is how it's happening. Like, love it.

I love it. I feel like girl in a candy store and I am getting all these candies from you.

Thank you. Thank you. I just so appreciative. I. I can talk for days about.

This seriously, Tilly, because this is exactly why I created my NST, my NeuroShine technology. Right. Because Whatever I was going through in my life, nothing was helping. I. I was feeling like, okay, there must be something wrong with me, because I was bumping into problems and issues and obstacles and then feeling like I was a failure, feeling like I couldn't stick. My friends had jobs and careers that they would stick for years. And then here I was every year, perhaps like, not even a year. Like, not. Not even, like, a full calendar year. I am in another company. I am in another agency. I'm like, what is wrong with me? Like, what's up? So, like, I was like, I need something. And then I just couldn't find anything. And, yeah. Years later, as you can imagine, now hearing what worked for me is also working for others, I'm like. Like, mic drop. I'm done.

And there should be more of us out there because the world needs that mindset.

Yeah. Yeah.

We all do. I'm trying to share it with my son, too. Like, bits and pieces. Like, my surrounding. Like, people around me also switched, actually.

Wow.

And I feel like, you know what? I unlearned. This is one of the things that I unlearned during. Because unlearning is very critical, very important. It is very important. What I learned is that not to give advice.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Because, you know, I'm wise, right? I have friends. You know, I've been through a lot, so thanks to them, and I really appreciate them. They tend to, you know, tilly, what do you thing? What should I do? You know? And I was like, I know all the answers, right? And I do. I do. Not all, but many of them. So I said, okay, you can do this, you can do that. But then it was helping. I'm sure it was. But now I changed my approach. This is one big thing that I unlearned. Not that what I was doing was wrong, but what I am now doing is better for my friends.

What are you doing now?

Right? What? I'm not giving advice. I'm just holding the space, listening to what they have to say and asking powerful questions. It's not a coaching session or anything, but now it's part of me, like, by. Like, it's just natural, you see?

Yeah.

Way of communication. Now I have, and I even see the change in them. They come up with their own answers. They don't even need my advice. I'm not even directed them because they know it already.

Boom. You empower them, and then you don't like you. You actually give yourself so much space by doing that. So much more peace. Yes.

That's Very relaxing. Because I don't have any responsibility. I was like owning the problem, owning the issue. It was hard on me because I was so ready to help my friend there, my loved ones. Right. I. To help. I want to help. And so much pressure. Now I have no pressure at all.

Wow. Wow.

Because I'm just letting them find the right answer, not my responsibility.

Wow, what a. What an unlearning. Oh, my goodness. Sh. I. I just actually want to applause and I want to just share this huge mindset shift with anyone who is in our audience today. This is what a true coaching mindset is. And that's also why I have Tilly. Although she just graduated, she is a new baby coach. She is like, you cannot say that. You can. If you have a coaching session with Tilly, I assure you, you're going to. You're going to feel all of her being as if she has been doing this for like another, like 30 years, like as her career. That's how good she is. Because she really mastered. I'm learning that kind of like, oh, I don't have to solve problem for people. I just need to empower them to solve their own problem. So that mindset, she is so good. And I was like, oh, my God, Tilly, I gotta have you and my shiny mind show. I am only actually interviewing my coach educators, you know, in my faculty. And although we are having that conversation and soon, in the future, whenever the divine timing is we're going to have you in our faculty, people would love to learn from you always. You have such a beautiful vibe about you that you bring. It's firm and yet open. It's disciplined, yet very soft and gentle. It's absolutely perfectionist and yet truly allowing the flexibility. And that's what I call mastery. You are an inspiration to so many and obviously to your friends and your network and the people that you lead as well. So my question. I have a question for you.

Thank you. First, let me thank you. These coming from you, means a lot to me. Thank you so much.

Shiny. My pleasure. It just comes from my heart.

You're just my role model.

Oh, my God. What an honor. What an honor to be. I love my life. That's why I love my life. Such a. Such an honor to be able to work with amazing people like you. And thank you. And my question is, when you look at the world now, when you look at the people now, if you were to put one word for that mindset shift that you experienced and you still see in others, what would be that word? What Is the world in need of right now?

What we need is, like, pause. I think, like, we all need to stop, think and reflect.

Wow.

And take deep breaths just for a second. Just give it a break.

Yeah. Just breathe.

Let it go. Let it be. And just focus on yourself and what you really want, what you really want to do in life, what you really want to become and how you're gonna become that.

And.

I think everything will transform after that, because can you imagine the diversity and the amount of different outcomes? I. I've become this, you've become that, the other person become that. And then they start to serve. We don't need to have to. We don't even have to become the same thing. That's not the point. That's the beauty of differences, even in the mindset. But always for a good cause. First of all, for ourselves.

Yes. Yeah.

We have to be feeling well first so we can help others.

Yeah. Such a good point. Such a great. Yeah. I love it.

How about you?

Pause. Huh?

That's a great question.

Pause.

I never thought of that.

Well, I'm always curious. Right? Because you have your own perspective. And after going through what you have gone through inside that transformation, the word that you shared with me, pause, it actually speaks volumes, because in that pause, as someone like me, who did two doctor degrees recently in metaphysics, pausing to me equals space. So in that space, what is in the space we have the air, the oxygen, the entire subatomic particles and intentions, the frequencies and energies, they're also floating in the air in the quantum field. And in that space, we actually, when we go really to the source of it, we have consciousness. I'm going to drop something in that conscious. I mean, consciousness is all there is. That is in my dissertation papers. Right? So what I believe, and my. My theory is there's always consciousness. Consciousness is all there is. And in that pause, in that space, we have nothing but consciousness. And that's why I loved hearing pausing from you. I would say consciousness. That would be my answer. Right? Like higher levels of consciousness. And in the way that you phrased it, I can see how they're actually the same. The similar. What we really need is to break the pattern of the conditioning, getting out of the matrix, just getting out of the programming. And you mentioned several times unlearning, because we learned we are conditioned, we are programmed by the society, by whatever other people think and opioids, other people's opinions, and then they are actually shaping us internally and externally. When we take a pause, when we go deep and then Ask our neurons and the neurites. Okay, what do I want? What do I believe? Who am I now? You are becoming a conscious co. Creator of yourself and in who you want to be.

There you go.

There it is. There it is. I dropped it. That consciousness, really, it is. And that's why I'm super passionate about my work. And I'm working with amazing people like you who are hashtag on a mission with me because once we understand. Oh, my gosh. That was me and my mindset. And now I take radical responsibility. How can I share this with others around me? How can I serve the collective without. Without trying to fix them?

Yes. Yes. There's no such thing fixing. Who do we. Who are we to say that this needs to be fixed?

Right.

This is wrong. Like, what is wrong? Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Maybe it's my right. It's okay. Right. It may be wrong for others, but it may fit me and. Or if it is really wrong, like, mutually wrong. Still not my job.

Yeah.

Not my business. We should, I believe, let everyone go through life. Like, even my way of communicating with my son.

Yeah.

I'm lucky. I'm lucky. I'm just sending my love to my son. Umot. We talk a lot. I'm lucky. He's 24. He still calls me, so I'm lucky.

So we talk lucky, too. Justine, stop it over there.

Thank you. So, you know, she knows my life, so he trusts my opinion, so I appreciate that. He always asked for my opinion. Mom, what should I do? You know? And I was. Of course I know. Right? Okay, do this. If I were. Why don't you do that? You know, but now, because I was. I'm a mother. Right? I need. I just want to protect. Right. I've been through that. Why would he go through that? Like, knowing that it's the wrong way. Like, I should stop. I should. But actually, what I'm doing to him is taking away the opportunity for him to fail, learn and have a growth mindset. Right? And now I stopped.

Oh, really?

It was not easy. Actually, you helped me with that. In one of the sessions, the first thing that hit me, you know, I said, like, I didn't know what I got myself into. Know. In the training. Okay? Coaching is not giving advice. We can. Oh, my God, I'm in trouble. Because, like, this is me giving advice. So I said, how would I stop myself? How can I do that? Then I thought, you know, h. Let me try it on my son. Because if I stop giving advice to my son, I'm good with anyone.

Exactly. That's the hardest.

So I practiced on my son. Not easy. It was not easy. It was really challenging. It helped me a lot, and it helped my son, too. Probably he's gonna listen to this and he'll find out all the tricks, but anyway, I'll live with it.

Oh, my goodness. This is amazing. Are you really able to hold yourself, become aware of your own protective advice, and instead shift the conversation to, what would you want to do with your son?

It was not easy, but now it's easier because it's, like, part of the coaching and what we're trying to help our clients with, too. Right? Muscle. Muscle. It's just the muscle that we have to work on. So my muscle is not there yet.

But has improved immensely.

Improved a lot immensely. It did. So I'm still in the process of practicing that, but that's huge.

Good.

It changed. Like, I'm so, so okay. And it's such a relief. No pressure.

Yeah, right.

Why have I done that in my whole life? Like, you know, I'm into my 20s, like, for 20 years.

Why did I do that? Two full decades.

Oh, I should have. It should have. I wish I took that course when I was 15, actually. I would have different, like, totally different life.

Yeah.

Anyone out there in their 20s, including my son, please, please, please jump in. When you're young.

That's so true. When you are wrong. When you are young, you have actually your neurons not that thick in terms of their muscle building. When. When you fire everything. When you fire the neurons, you wire the neurons. If you keep firing the same thought pattern, then you're. You know, that. That is. That is how it works. So if you just stop it, whatever you don't use, you lose. And that's how you unlearn. And that is what Tilly is talking about. And that is why my mom's journey now, I'm going to connect with you and your son and with me and my mom. Looking forward to it, as you know. And you're going to meet her very soon. My mom has been my biggest success story. And then I keep talking about that. Right. And she is absolutely super inspiring for anybody. I mean, she's not even in her 20s like you. She's in her 30s, as you know, so. Actually, 40s. Yeah, actually. Yeah.

Yeah.

In her 40s. Like, joke aside, after the age of 60, if my mom can unlearn her conditioning her own patterns, nobody has an excuse. I'm sorry. Nobody has an excuse because I have the biggest example, the biggest success story. Who kept resisting? Who Kept telling me, I know you are resonating with it because you. I exactly walk through the path from the other side. Like being the mom. Because my mom kept saying, I'm a mom. Come on. I can say that. I'm like, not really. No. I am still a sovereign individual. I have my own free will, my choices. And I understand you want to protect me. I understand you want to come from your own perspective. Yet I'll tell you what. I don't need your protection. I'm good. It's my life.

No. The biggest learning curve happens when we fail.

Yeah. Pain. Yes, Pain. Pain. Yeah.

So we cannot take it away from our loved ones. No.

Yeah, exactly. That. That. Figuring it out for. For my mom was the biggest transformation, the biggest breakthrough when she realized, huh, I'm giving you my advice. That's not yours. That took years, I must admit. Like, quite some years. Okay. But perhaps like six, seven years. Okay. But I did not give up.

I did not.

And she did not give up. She came and said, in my programs, when I was doing in person trainings, also in Turkish. I was doing also in Turkish. She was my best student. She would just sit in my class, and then she would work on herself. And that's why I respect my mom so much. And then that's why I also respect you as a mom so much. You are taking responsibility. Radical responsibility. Responsibility. And then you're looking inwards. I. I want all the moms out there to hear us. Please hear us. You, as your moms are superwoman. Whatever you do at home is gonna affect. Impact the next generation.

Yes. That's. Wow. Yeah. Because what I'm doing is I'm being a role model now. And this is what I'm passing on to my son.

Yeah.

So he applies the same thing. So I'm changing generations, actually, with just one little step.

That's it.

Which is big. Actually. Not so little.

Yeah.

But easy to do.

Exactly.

And comforting as well. Right?

The benefits of letting people make their own decisions.

Exactly. Exactly. That's it. Just like that?

Just like that. Wow. Okay. I can go on and on and on and on about, like, talking about moms and next generations. I believe we shared our message. I have another question for you that I am actually. I cannot even wait to ask because this is something about my creativity, and I'm always curious. So here's my question. When you heard about Neuroshine technology, what did you think about the whole curriculum versus what do you know about it now?

First of all, I never paid attention to the word Neuro.

Okay. Okay. Interesting, right?

As I said, like I didn't even know what I was getting into, you know. Oh, it's. It sounds good. You know, I'm not that scientific.

Okay.

You know me like shiny was. The shiny stood out actually. Oh, that's something positive. But then going through training, actually the content provided the neuro and the scientific meaning of the whole coaching and shiny mindset and transforming mindset. Switching mindset like scientifically, what it means. Then I said, oh, okay. Then I paid attention to the neuro or I realized neuro there and this like saying this out loud like I'm proud of myself because I'm. I'm not scientific. You know, I hardly follow the content, but the content, like if I understand. Yeah, anyone can.

Oh yeah.

So simplified. So simplified. But just there to convince and to understand. During coaching, during any communication, any, any interaction. What is going on in there now I know by the look, you know, looking here, looking there, you know all these things.

Yep.

It's all science. Like I never thought I would love science. Coming from. I'm an English teacher. Right. I'm terrible at math or science. This is why I'm an English teacher. But science. But now I'm a fan. Thanks to you.

I love it. Okay. Wow, that's interesting. So that is basically it just shows how you just surrendered yourself and you said, okay, I want to learn coaching and I am here to learn coaching and I'm gonna figure it out. That is super amazing. Your ability to just let go and then meet the content as you are moving through the whole journey.

Exactly. That's being a risk taker, actually.

That is yes, being a risk take.

Like don't think about it, just. Just jump in. Right?

Yeah.

Like what, what could go wrong? You know, what could happen? Like get out of your comfort zone, do something different, challenge yourself. Because you know, it's so boring to sit in the same place in your comfort zone. It's comfortable but gets boring after a while. Right. Just go out there, take a course that you have no idea about. Like coaching like me. And then what came out of it is beyond my imagination.

A lot. I love people hearing this because this is. I also want to answer the question that you asked. What could go wrong? The, the, the worst case scenario which never happened is you don't resonate with the content. And guess what? In my world, at my academy of nourishing technology, I have a 30 day guarantee. Like yes, full 30 days. 30. And it is an 11 week course if you don't count the Business school. Right. So out of like 11 weeks, you are actually almost experiencing half of it risk free. I only ask everybody to just show up. Really do your best. Like show up to the classes, go through the content, watch everything. And if you tell me I still don't resonate shiny, by all means, I don't want to take your money. I am only going to make my difference, my impact if it is serving you. And that's the thing. That's the biggest question that you can ask yourself, right? What, what could go wrong? And then that's it. And then that's why I want to create this world. And then thank you for sharing that, Tilly, because that's like life taking risk. And it's a very great leadership skill. Yeah. Taking calculated risk.

Just do it.

Yeah, definitely. Just do it. Just. Just do it. Okay. You can totally feel our passion. So Tilly is right there with me. I cannot imagine how amazing of a school principal you are, Tilly. Seriously, I would love. I wish I had you at. At my school. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm just hoping to be better with my coaching skills. No one is perfect. And in life we all do our best. That's. That's what we do. I know we do it. We do it our way.

Yeah.

Right or wrong, good or bad, but it's our way. And in the meantime, we can all make mistakes. It's okay.

And then.

And then get on board. Apologize when necessary.

Yeah.

Admitted change. This is how you become a better person. This is how you become a better doctor, a better teacher, a better administrator. This is how you do it actually.

So that's. I mean, now you know what I am thinking about? I'm calculating. How many students do you have in your school in China?

Around 600 now.

Oh my God. 600 people. Imagine you at the top, you leading now with a totally different mindset, Empowering everybody to come up with their own decisions aligned with their truths. And now the teachers, whoever works at that school, the way that they show up, the way that they actually hold dear, and then they just actually show up with their sort of their empowered mindset. And then the way that they impact the students, and then I'm getting goosebumps. And then these, they show up in their empowered mindset and then they go interact with the world. And can you imagine the ripple effect?

Yeah. Yeah. It's the real. It's the ripple effect. And. And you know, we don't even have to reach out to everyone. The more the merrier. But trying is the key.

Yeah. Just Try. Yeah, let's try.

Do your best. Change people's lives. And also while changing people's lives. This is the. This is my maybe biggest takeaway. I'm wondering actually how you feel about it as well. I have a question, actually for you that. Because I have an answer, but I'm curious to know your perspective. I wonder what is your biggest awareness or aha. Moment that you had while coaching a client?

Oh, coaching a client. Not teaching my coaching education. Oh, that's a wonderful question to ask. I am gonna say my biggest aha. Moment was this. To be safe, seen, heard, and appreciated is what everybody wants and needs. That's why I created my curriculum of nourishing technology around was the same for everybody. Whoever I coached, whoever I interacted with, and even before going to my clients, that's what I wanted myself. Yes.

Yes. From others.

Like, whenever I was going through my challenges, as I was sharing with you in my corporate world, whenever I was asking those very disempowering, very negative wrong questions to ask, like, what is wrong with me? I needed somebody to make me feel safe, seen, heard, and appreciated. I couldn't. People couldn't give it to me. Nobody was able to give that to me. Nobody. Even the training programs that I have done, Tilly, sometimes I shared in my program as you. As you will remember, in the. In our Zoom classes, even the programs. Like, it's. Of course, I'm always grateful. I have taken a lot. I have become who I am with everything that I have learned. And still, yet I always. Because I'm super sensitive, I can sense the energy as well. You know, studying metaphysics for, like, over 14 years now, I was always paying attention more to the energy. And I always felt that judgment. There was this, like, subtle judgment. And then I felt judged. And whenever there was judgment, I didn't want to show up as myself. I didn't want to fall because that was not a safe place to fall. I was judged. I was told what to do. I was being fixed. And then I was like, oh, you should do the no ask me what do I want? And that's why, coming from my own perspective, I believe I also saw that in my clients. And that's why it became my biggest nourishing moment.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. This is big. Yeah, this is huge. Thank you for sharing that perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This. This definitely. Yeah. Like, mine is mostly, I believe, maybe like. Like, if nothing else, this may inspire others to join this world of transformation. And going through this training, not only the training, transferred myself but during coaching with clients, my biggest takeaway is that most of the time I see that I'm no special. And it's not only me seeing my clients going through similar challenges, having similar fears and going through even similar, similar issues and challenges, like devastating challenges in life. This because when you're in it, you can't see it. Right. You're in it with the victim. Right. But looking at the client, giving the client a space and going through the process with the client.

Wow.

Sometimes I wonder like, am I coaching my client or am I being coached?

Oh, wow. Yeah.

Right. Because this gives another perspective. It gives me the option to look at it from outside. What's happening to me? Oh, this is what it is. Which I never get to do it for myself. But through my client, I reach that moment this huge. And this really helps me to get out of the victim mentality easier. Oh, this is so normal. I'm not the only one. Because we tend to say, you know, being in the victim mode, you know what? This is whatever, you know, I'm going to. His life is miserable. You know this. No.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. This is huge.

Right? And I, I wasn't expecting that. This is why like from 12 to 3, 12 to 4, doesn't matter. Just thank you. I really appreciate you shiny you personally, you with all your energy and insight and I'm so glad that I have the whole package without thinking as a risk taker. And I'm having now in the PCC training I'm going to be in in September. Another sleepless but amazing evenings. Two or three months. I'm looking forward to it now. I have no hesitation and neuroshine technology.

Wow.

Yeah.

Oh my God. Thank you. I'm receiving every word. I'm receiving with love.

Thank you. Regret, really sincere.

Oh my God. I am thinking all the words. With grace, with gratitude, with love. I believe this is a beautiful moment to just drop with a cherry on top. Yes. So I would love to thank you for being here, for sharing your experience with anybody out there so that they can have the inspiration, they can follow their dreams, whatever that is in their heart, that's what you want. That's. That's the encouragement. Any other parting words that you want to share before we just say bye bye to everyone.

Well, for the ones who are watching or listening, please, please, please consider taking this coaching course not only to become a coach, you don't have to become a coach for yourself, for your daughters, for your sons, for your husbands, for your wives, for your moms, for yourself, for everything. Please, please, please do so. Do not wait and put your sons and daughters in this program. This is what I'm gonna do. Like this. You don't have to become a coach. That's. That's not the big idea here. This is. It's more than that. It's beyond that.

Yeah. That's why I always say becoming a coach is a cherry on top. Yes, it's a cherry on top. So thank you so much, Tali. Thank you. Thank you. And then thank you, everybody, for staying with us, for watching and listening to us. Please share this. If you resonate like put. Put that, like, button and subscribe so that we can just share love with more people, more hearts, and more souls around the world. We need this in today's world. And until next time, keep shining your light. Bye. Bye. Thanks, silly. Bye. Bye.

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