Archive The Journey Principle Radio Show Episode 100 | What's The Right Job For Me

Guiding you to become the hero of your own story. This is the Journey Principles radio show where you are the warrior and we are your weapon. Now here are your hosts, Josh Bledsoe.

And master life strategist, Steven Scoggins.

Welcome back, everyone, to the Journey Principles radio show. We're broadcasting to you live from that beautiful city of Oaks, Raleigh, North Carolina. I'm your host, Josh Bledsoe, and today I'm joined by both the seed planter and the seed cultivator. We'll call it a seed cultivator.

Oh, wow.

Actually, Karen Gilliam says Stevens coach, one of his coaches and mentors that he goes to not often, but when he absolutely needs it. Which is just fantastic for me to be around because Steven is one of my mentors, one of my coaches. And then to get around someone who's coached and mentored him, it's kind of like you just. You see where the water falls from. You know, you kind of see you can see the water at the. At the bottom of the valley.

My golf swing coach.

You don't even play golf.

Yeah, right.

Try to get him play golf. Anyways, we're getting off topic here, but today we're talking all about how do you know that you're in the right profession? This being the professional pillar month, we're talking all things profession, whether that's career, that's job, there's volunteering. There's a lot that goes into profession. And Karen leads the way when it comes to making sure that you're in the right profession through her empowerment coaching. She does a lot of leadership empowerment coaching for women specifically. However, when she gets into the corporate environment and she does a corporate training piece, there is no gender biases in there.

Right.

And I can tell you from personal experiences, you're not just talking about only women things. I know that whenever I've seen you speak, I've watched your videos. I've been keeping up with you on social media. It's all empowering for all genders. All good stuff. So welcome to the show.

Well, thank you. Thank you for having me, Josh. And always good to see Stephen.

Thank you.

So I'm excited.

We are excited to dive into this with you. So your background, Your husband was 23 years in the military, is that correct? Get that right.

Total 34.

Total 34. Active Duty Numbers are hard. Active duty and guard words are really hard too.

So we've already learned that your profession may not be accountable.

No, not a math.

Don't hire me to be your CFO unless you want that to be chief funny officer.

So active duty military. You got a lot of background with that. But then something hits you along the way and you realize that you were not in the right job. J O B, as you like to call it. I want to talk about that. Let's start there. Let's start where it all began.

Oh, wow. Well, I have over 35 years in corporate America and I started in education. I did different careers in education and I stayed with the little ones at first because they were non threatening.

I didn't have any confidence.

I was so shy. When I first entered corporate America, I couldn't lead silent prayer. That's pretty bad. But.

And that I can't either because I talk too much.

Silent prayer, nobody talks. But I lacked confidence. And so once someone said these words to me that really pierced my soul. She said, allow me to believe in you until you believe in yourself.

Okay. So she said, give me the permission to believe in you until you can get there yourself. That's powerful.

Yes.

What did that do for you?

Well, at first sort of scared me because she kept telling me things that she could see as a possibility. No, she wasn't psychic, but she could see potential in me of things that she thought I could do. And everything she said I denied. And I. Oh, no, no. And one of them was, you're going to be speaking to masses of people.

As a shy person. She told you that?

Yes, that's why I laughed.

I'm sure that landed on completely open and accepting ears.

I laughed.

Not really.

I laughed. But.

Now as I look back, I've been paying it forward ever since.

Maybe she should have been a psychic because she's right. You're speaking for other masses now.

I do.

So. And this thing about a job and passionate about to the point that I'm tired of people working. Job's Journey of the broke.

Journey of the broke.

Yes.

That stings a little bit.

Oh, yeah. Now I'm not just talking finances now, Josh.

Yeah, yeah.

People do live paycheck to paycheck, but what I'm talking about is they're living.

And they're broken mentally, psychologically, sometimes even physically. They are actually performing work that they were never designed to do.

That's heavy. That's heavy right there.

How many people are actually working things just because it was spoken over them? We talked about this on an earlier show not long ago, talking about how your parents can influence you. God may have made you to be an artist, but yet you're at a law firm. Or he may have made you to be a lawyer, but yet you're trying to paint for a living because your parents were painters. I mean, how many times that. I wonder how many times in all your dealings with people that you've ran across and worked with, how many of them have been influenced to be in the position they're in rather than have, you know, a position they've chosen?

I would say it's over 50%.

Over 50% of the people that you come across are saying, that's me. I'm working at job. And not really because I want to.

Right. It's because they went. They followed the path. They went to college. They chose a major based on someone in their family, and they struggled, and they're still struggling. See, we were never designed to job.

That's right.

We weren't designed to job. We were designed to work.

You have to work to do work.

Yes, but why not do the work based on the strengths and talents and gifts God is giving you?

That's right.

Yeah.

If you got to work, work hard at your purpose.

That's right.

I'd like to find the person that came up with the path of get good grades in school, graduate school, go to college, graduate college, get good job, gold watch and die.

Oh, please.

I've heard that so many times. But I want to find the joker that started that and kick him in the shin.

I believe his name was King something or other.

King Louie or one of those guys. It's been. It's been ongoing long before the Mayflower ever hit.

King Looney is what it should be. Because I've heard so many successful people talk about the very opposite thing.

Well, if you think about it, historically, most people went into an apprenticeship immediately out of essentially grade school back in the 15 and 1600s. And because of that, they only learned one trade. Very seldom did someone step out like a Ben Franklin, for example, or Michelangelo. These guys stepped out of their chosen apprenticeship and went into something they were passionate about. And lo and behold, they became world changers.

That's it.

So in order to break the system, you have to open your mind to new possibilities.

Right.

Which is what you help people do.

Absolutely. Finding your passion, which is, sorry to say, this, ludicrous. You don't have to find your passion.

Yeah.

Your passion is already within you 100%.

You already got it.

It's what you do with the least amount of effort. If I were to see you any time of day or night, what would you be doing?

That's right.

Well, nighttime, I'm sleeping. Sometimes I'm just Kidding.

I'm just kidding.

I know where you're going.

I know.

So that is, that is a cliche statement that is so overused now is find your passion. Yes. I'm gonna put on the quester's hat. I'm gonna go find my passion. What are you talking about? There. It's already inside of us though, right?

That's right.

Alright, so how does someone dig it out? How do they get to it?

Well, first of all, you have to know what it is that you do with the least amount of effort. Okay, so let's say we have somebody watching that they are very good at.

Mechanics. They love to put things together, they love to take things apart. But they're not doing it when it comes to a career, something they're doing.

The majority of their day.

Right. They hate the job.

But they love when they're not on the job and they get to do their passion. Why not take the passion and make it your job or career?

That sounds nice. Very nice.

She's talking about my life.

She's talking about.

Yeah, I mean when I started my first construction company, you know, I started to eat, you know, for necessity. However, I very quickly uncovered I had a gift and a desire to teach, inspire and educate. Lo and behold, after enough practice, enough reps, enough God given responsibility of stewardship to steward what I already had, he gave me the opportunity to create the Journey principles which is all about helping people.

Yes.

Kind of uncover and get unstuck and kind of move on with their, with their thing. But I had lots of practice along the way. People with all kinds of issues and problems and it happens just as, just as much in your personal life, if not more. Your occupational life.

Really.

That's where, that's where all your, your baggage a lot of times will surface, either surfaces there or in your relationships, your prior to your personal relationships. Those two places, for whatever reason, more than anywhere else, for whatever, whatever reason, tend to bring your things to the surface.

Right.

It really does, you know, so while we started putting on siding as being the main thing, what we did was not as important as why I was doing what I was doing.

That's it. The why.

Okay. All right. So it brings out the why.

So that's the next step.

I can hear the questions coming from people now. All right, now I'm passionate about this. It's not so easy for me to change my job, my, my daily thing that I do to pay my bills. What do I need to do to get there?

What is your why? Yeah, why do you want to do the very thing that you're passionate about in order to make a living.

Yeah.

And when you identify the why, and I keep saying, keep asking yourself why until it literally makes you cry.

Go back to being a two year old and ask yourself why over and over again.

Yeah, why? Why do you want to do whatever?

And until it bubbles up, until you.

Get to the point. Because money should never be the determining factor.

That's a bad motivator.

It is.

Can you imagine if some of the most gifted teachers on the planet were only focused on money? What kind of deficiency we'd have in this world?

I got a chance recently to speak to a lot of teachers at an education conference. And one thing that I was trying to relay to them was the impact one teacher had on my life and how it kept me from giving up at some pretty important times in my life. You know, I side with you on your why. You know, understanding what your why is. What motivates you, what brings tears to your eyes, what brings joy to your spirit. What would you do for free? A lot of time your passion is hidden there. What would you do for free if you could every day. And then if you can figure out a couple occupations that kind of go with it, list out four or five things, you know, that kind of bring those, that, that expression of emotion to your spirit, list those things, and I guarantee you probably tie three or four, even five of them together to come up with an occupation that really suits who you are and what you're made for.

Absolutely. That's why I say the why. Once you discover the why, the what will have more impact and the what.

Will actually come easier, in my opinion.

That's right. And the money will come. But that is not your main focus. For I say like for teachers, because I was in education teachers, that's a paycheck of the heart. They do not do it for the money. But to this day, I still remember the teachers that had the influence and impact on my life.

Yeah, Yeah.

I was telling the teachers, educators at the conference that the greatest thing that they have is the ability to do something that most people don't have to do. And that is change the mind.

That's right, yeah.

Change the mind, Change the perception, change the understanding, change the set of wisdom, change the core belief systems.

Right, yeah.

You know, teacher, just going back into professions that matter, you know, it's. It's one of the situations where the people I am, I am a result of what I've been taught and what, and what I've chosen To learn, you know. So as you know, if you don't mind, one of the couple things that thoughts, as I've been listening to you talk, that's come to mind, which always happens when I'm around Mama G, because.

I'm just like, I see. I see you.

Well, I can't read it to you. I'm about to get all kinds of.

Might need to hit you a different piece of paper.

That's what happens when you do the live show, right?

That's right.

You know, a couple things that I. That I wrote down, and we use terminology called explore and discovery quite a bit because it removes a certain amount of weight off your life. It removes the guilt, the shame, the risk, the threat, the fear, you know, and fear is really what holds us back from really, I believe, discovering the passion that's already inside of us. So here are some things that I jotted down. I was listening to you talk.

Okay?

One, discover what comes easy and natural.

What.

What comes easy to you? Are you fantastic at football? Fantastic. I'm not.

Right.

I'm pretty good at entrepreneurship. For whatever reason, God's gifted me there.

Right, Right.

What brings you repetitive joy? Not just sporadic joy, like, I enjoy doing it this one time, but if I go and do this day after day after day, do it in my joy field, this is something that I enjoy.

Does it get you jazzed up?

Right.

What brings commitment? What makes. Commit me committing to that, to that procedure easier?

Okay. Right.

You're not going to commit to something. You don't care. Right. What brings contribution? How. How can what I bring to the table contribute to the betterment of others?

Yes. Right.

What. What can I leverage and within myself to make my dreams and passions a reality?

Yes.

You know, all of these are things that I think are pivotal in discovering who this profession is, you know, and what that profession is. People, I think sometimes will get lost because they actually enjoy their hobby more than they enjoy the profession.

Absolutely.

Occasionally you can reverse those.

Yes.

You know, at the same time, I believe the human spirit is built in such a way that it must. It must express its contribution muscle.

Yes.

I really believe that.

Yeah.

And Mama G, you've probably taught me that better than anybody else.

Well, it's ironic that you mentioned the contribution.

I have three adult children, and I like to say they're grown and gone.

But our second son, Kevin.

Went in the military.

Didn't really fulfill the mission of the military, but he was able to use his passion of basketball while he was in the military to the point that he Played.

Basketball for the Air Force.

Wow.

Then he learned a lot of things, but decided that the passion was strong enough that he decided to go part time with the military and pursue the passion of basketball. So today he is now coaching a high school JV basketball team and pursuing.

His passion, surrounded by his passion every day.

Yes.

Good for him.

And we all three of our children heard about pursue your passion when it was. If it was the military, can you support the mission?

Yeah.

And if you cannot support the mission, you know, and I'll be honest with you, some people, when it comes to the military, choose the military because of the uniform. The uniform will not sustain you for 20 years.

It does not. I used to tell my airmen that all the time when it comes to physical fitness or things that they were going through, and they thought that the answer was, well, I just need to get out of the military. I need to get out of this thing. Like, hey, you take that uniform, you're still the same person, Right? You're not going to take your skin off, are you?

Right.

No. So let's talk about working on the things that you really want to get to. If that uniform has got nothing to.

Do with it, but you can take your talents, your strengths and your gifts and use it and contribute.

Yeah.

I firmly believe in us. And I jotted this down. I was listening to y' all guys talk.

So this is brand new.

So hopefully with you, passion driven professions create opportunity for others. You'll know when you're operating in your passion and your purpose and your. And your calling. I like to call it the calling because that's how I see it.

That's right.

I was called to what I'm doing. In other words, it kept beckoning me, you must come this way. You were created for this, right?

Yes.

All of the professions that I've. That I've dealt with passionately and had the commitment, had the joy, had all the things we discussed about a few minutes ago, all of those created opportunities for others. I firmly believe that we were created in order to bless and serve those around us on a regular basis. So what comes to your mind, what comes to your heart right now in this moment as we're talking? Because I guarantee it's popping off in your head.

Somebody's already thinking about it, right?

Yeah, someone's already thinking about it right now. What would you do for free right now? And how could you add value to the world?

All right, Stephen, you said that. And in this book, which is the book that actually transitioned me to my position, it's called Caught Between a Dream and a Job.

Oh, wow.

Yep. And Delatoro McNeil. You know, I never. I have met him now.

I can tell you've read this. I mean, it's quite. There's a few highlighters in there. It's quite explored.

But it's interesting because I think on the very first page he says we were created to be creators.

That's right.

So what you just said. Yes. And it was him that I'd heard that we were never designed to Job.

That's right.

We were designed to work.

Everybody that's ever been created by God has a purpose.

Absolutely.

Okay, so we've talked about. Instead of finding your passion, you said, pursue your passion.

Pursue your passion.

You taught your kids pursue your passion.

Yes. You don't have to find it.

I want people to understand the difference in those two words.

Yes.

Instead of actually seeking out this new thing that's outside of them to the discovery, you're talking about pursuing something that's already inside of you.

Yes.

Okay. Now, if that's me, I don't know my passion exactly yet. I know some things I like to do. I might be able to jot down some things I would do for free, but I don't even know what I'm good at. I don't even know what value I can bring to the game. How do I figure that out?

So that's the next step after you get past the why you now need to know what your gifts, your talents and your strengths are. So I'm going to make a record. Yeah. I'm going to make a recommendation for those. And these happen to be things that I teach. Gifts. The great place to start would be spiritual gifts.

Okay.

Because God has already.

Something we're already equipped with.

Yes. Has equipped you.

Okay.

Now, talent is what maybe you like. The first thing that comes to mind is an instrument or piano.

Sure.

What did you practice? A practice. And you became. You went from a novice to an expert.

Strength.

I use a book called the Strength Finder 2.0.

Okay.

Tom Rath is the author. There are 34 different strengths. And based on an assessment that you take, it will identify what your strengths are.

Okay.

And it will give you a printout of what profession would probably be best for you to use those strengths. Okay.

So based on Tom Rath's algorithm or whoever's algorithm that worked with him on the book and stuff, you can find out a guide and direction of where you might need to go based on your strengths.

Yes.

Okay. So what about the other two how do we find the spiritual gifts? Where do folks go to find that spiritual gift?

I believe there's a free assessment online. We do spiritual gifts.

Just Google it.

Yeah, just Google like everything else.

And talent is basically what did you go from a novice to an expert because of practice and utilizing it.

I want to go back and touch on a word that just resonated with me quite a bit.

Okay.

I just got in trouble for texting while we were on air. However, I wasn't texting, I was googling.

Big difference.

However, our production department let me know that I was texting by texting me, which is funny.

No, in all essence. So we mentioned the word pursue. So I went ahead and said, what does pursue mean? And here are some of the words that come after pursue. Adjectives of pursue.

Okay.

To run after, to persist, to search for, to yearn for, to track down, scout out, and even stalk.

Don't stalk anybody.

No, don't, please don't stalk people.

But do stalk your passion.

Stalk your passion.

Yeah, absolutely.

Find that joker.

Yeah.

Stalk yourself.

Yeah.

Little weird.

That's exactly it, though. We're talking about actually running after something that's already inside of you. What you're doing, Karen, right now, I can already feel it because I can feel it inside myself. Other people are out there thinking and feeling the same way of. You're bringing it up to the surface.

Yes.

Which I know you do at your events, your empowerment events. That's what I call it, empowerment. It's not a. You're not handing them the answers, you're not handing them solutions, you're empowering them to find it themselves.

Right, right. And I do ask questions to help them find the answers themselves rather than me give them the answer.

Okay.

That's what's known as a great.

Can you ask some of those questions now? Can we get a sneak peek or do we need to buy a ticket to it?

Well, okay, you mentioned pursuing. What does pursuit or pursuing look like for you? They're open ended questions where you have to think and you have to give me information. Based on your information, I come up with other questions to ask. And we keep asking until you feel that. And the question I usually say is so from based on what you just shared with me, and I reiterate what they say, if I were to see you.

Say week, month or year from now, what is it that you would be pursuing?

Hold them accountable to it.

Absolutely.

I like that.

Accountability.

It's scary, but it also is good too, because no one holds us accountable anymore. No, unfortunately, and the way the human.

Brains wired, the deeper the question of the richer the question, the better the answer.

Yeah.

And we've talked about this before. People that will unfortunately self sabotage or talk negatively about themselves on a regular basis. It's the question that they're asking themselves on a regular basis. Why do I stink? Why do I suck? How come someone doesn't like me, I love me, or whatever the case may be. And what mama G does so well is when she is working with people, whether it's from a stage or one on one, I've seen her do it both ways. No matter what it comes, it always comes across as what is it? It's a constructive depth search. It's taking a quick scuba diving trip into your soul.

What it does is it begins to train the brain to ask better questions. That's why you see so many people that achieve various levels of transformation continue on, and then also they find it incredibly easier to help others do the same.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah. And we actually have someone like that in the house today.

That's right.

Yeah. He experienced some transformation at Transform you live recently, and we've been kind of keeping touch with him and talking through Facebook messaging.

He joined us on the live coaching today.

Yeah, he was live coaching with you today. You want to trade spots with him now?

Yeah, absolutely. Mark Green.

Come on up, buddy. Come on, buddy. Yeah, can you insert like a clapping noise in Facebook live? Like put one of those, like little emojis up there. He's gonna be a little slow, but you need a handicap ramp to go here. He did have some issues with his ankle in the surgery.

Thanks, buddy. All right, so, Mark, what we're gonna do is we're gonna transition real quickly and kind of just describe a little bit about who you are, if that's okay if I do that?

Sure.

Okay. Absolutely.

Mark is a single guy. He loves long walks on the beach. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

I do actually. When I can walk. That's not funny.

When you can. Sorry, two seconds. Mark here, he's a good friend of ours. He actually joined us at Transform you live in April and still a member of the military and the national Guard. But he did not come to Transform you live as a military member. No one does. You kind of leave the profession and all the titles that you have in the parking lot. Because when you come into Transform you live. You're who God made you to be right at that moment. So in three days, Mark here, who had a sweet stash back then, you should Totally. Bring it back. No shave November.

No.

Okay.

I've actually. I pulled up a picture, and it scared me.

Get that caterpillar off my face.

Wow.

Mark here had the reason that we've invited Mark out, and he had a coaching session with Steven earlier today. And we said, hey, man, just hang on out with us, and we want to talk to you on the radio a little bit. Because he's the evidence of someone who's actually taken the information. So, like, someone that may have attended your event and taken the information and they've applied it. That's some of the most exciting stuff you can see is when someone actually takes your information, apply it, and you see real life change.

Implement implementation.

Right. Mark, tell us a little bit about who you are before the event and a little bit afterwards.

Oh, man. Where did it begin? So about 29 years ago, my parents met. And so, gosh, before the events, you know, I was sitting over there trying to figure out where to start. It really comes down to I had no direction.

I was lost. I think I could even touch back to when I first met y'.

All.

About a month prior to that.

Yeah. Shortly before that.

Yeah. It was Warrior Resets. And.

I was sitting. I met you and Stephen, and I had the opportunity to pull Stephen aside, and.

We were sitting there, and I was reaping some of his wisdom, and my mind is just a storm. A lot of questions that I don't even know. I can't even grasp at any of those questions.

They do that. Like, he and Karen both do that a lot. And, you know, it makes me feel like I'm this big. But then somehow she'll put like a. You know, those pumps. Yeah. Basketball stuff. Somehow she inserts that into my ear, gets me back going again.

Look, he.

I'm. I'm sitting there looking at this man I just met. I've seen him talk. You know, he's God knowledge.

Yeah.

It's there.

Yeah.

I don't know what to ask him.

Yeah. I didn't know where to start.

And he asked one question and something snapped, and it all settled and goes, what's on your heart?

Wow.

And I instantly knew what I needed to say. And he went with that and started to mold, and that was. That was what sort of pulled me up, out and set me up. You know, we were talking earlier, timings, everything, and set me up for transforming live. And I really got the direction I needed at that point.

Use the tools that I had to sort of figure out some things. You know, I mean, I'm In a transitional phase where there's a lot of questions and there's a lot of uncertain. Uncertainties. Yes, absolutely. But I've gained a lot of confidence in not worrying about that because it doesn't matter. I know who I am now. I have confidence in myself. And at the end of the day, that's what really matters.

Yay. Wow.

So Mark was, like you said, kind of lost, kind of without direction before the event and during the event. You've seen the playbook which she will be at the next Transform youm Live, ladies and gentlemen. So if anything, when we announce the next Transform youm Live, if you need to come for anything, it's to see her speak. The only reason she was not there is because she is so busy and sought out for all across the country. She's gonna talk about that a little bit later, like how busy she's been. But next year I'm going to like tie her publicist or someone to a poll so they can't book anything for at least that time when we have Transform you Live again. So she's there.

Yes, absolutely.

So he was in a transition period. Still sort of in a transition period for profession, trying to figure out what he wants to do when he grows up. We say that kind of jokingly all the time, but it's like, alright, what's the next step? Right. He did find out a lot about himself at Transform youm Live. He did have some breakthrough and transformation. But I'd like to give you the platform here and see what you got. Let's see some help here. He has a big, big heart for people and Steve and I both believe that the world needs more love from Mark. But if he was at your event and you only had five minutes with him, what would you do with that time?

All right, so, Mark, I've heard about you and I've been watching you. Look, the question I have for you is if you were to choose any area of your life right now, spiritual, personal.

Career, financial, relationship, health and wellness, or legacy, which area.

Are you experiencing the most painful?

Oh, man, that's a tough one.

You know, a while ago it would definitely would have been relationship.

Which I feel actually would have tied into spiritual. At this point, I feel.

All encompassing. It would be legacy.

Because I'm starting to realize that.

I need to know who I am, I want to know my future, what am I leaving behind? What makes me happy.

And what makes me happy is making other people happy. So what can I do for the.

World.

Regardless of who I'm with? Because at the end of the day, I'm the only one I have to live with for the rest of my life.

All right, so what does legacy. And I think you said it. What does legacy mean to you?

Legacy means to me.

Who'S going to. Who's going to be at my funeral, you know, who's going to remember me. I, for the longest time, not had.

The strongest relationships to compare. I've been going through a lot of medical. I've had four reconstruction surgeries on my feet, the first of which I had two people visit me in the hospital, one of which was.

My fiance at the time, and the other was my father, both of which were very valuable to me. And I did not wish for anybody else. I did not go maintain. I wish I had more people. I was content.

I lost that relationship and started to wonder how I was going to get through the next couple surgeries.

Because I.

Did not want to be alone. I don't believe anybody is meant to be alone. It's not why we're here on this earth.

So it was astounding to me when after transforming live, I started to see changes in myself. And by the fourth surgery.

I had so many visitors that the nurses started telling me they were going to start charging me. I did not. There wasn't a day that I did not have visitors, multiple people. So to me, legacy is not even, you know, you have people who are talked about through history. You got Alexander the Great, you have Socrates. You have all these people who have done something so amazing that it stands the test of time. For me, it's. It simply means, who was I a good enough person to. That I meant something. At the end of the day, if that means I was a good father, that I was good enough to my future family, that's all the legacy I need. But it means that I was good enough to somebody.

So based on what you're sharing with me, Mark.

Looks like your relationships are tied into your legacy.

Absolutely. I feel that it's all about the people you surround yourself with. For me, I do value what other people think.

And I feel that.

I've always been able to. I say always.

I feel that I can tell what type of person I am by the people I surround myself with. Like I said recently, I've been able to realize that I'm not as bad of a person as I thought I was.

You know, I've made wonderful friends. You know, Josh is more than, you know, a guy that's sharing principles for me. He continues to reach out. We've stayed in touch. You know, we still have to have dinner.

Yeah. We gotta eat at some point.

Yeah. But you know, I can't be that bad of a person if I have people who I consider to be wonderful people who want me in their life, who continue to reach out and go, hey, how are you? So to me, yes, that is very much in tie together.

Well for you to take this. From this moment on, I'm going to leave you with this part and you don't have to answer it right now.

What is it costing you not to have the relationship in order to leave the legacy you want?

See, all of us, all of us understand cost.

And if you ever think about what is it costing you.

Then once you realize it's costing you a lot, you'll do something about it.

I like that.

So that's my last question to you.

That is so, so good.

Thank you so much.

We could totally end it right there with that mic dropping question.

What is it costing you? And for those of you that are watching, what is it costing you to not pursue your passion.

And stop working a J O B.

That's a good question to ask because.

It'S costing you something.

It is costing you something.

Oh, and then the follow up question, there's more. Are you willing to pay the price? Ouch. Are you willing to pay the price?

That's a strong, that's a strong, bold statement and question really too. To bring people really to reality. Because we're talking about their real lives here. We're not talking about just a 9 to 5 job, something that they can pay the bills for, make sure their Netflix account stays open. We're talking about people's real lives. We're talking about health.

Absolutely.

Talking about relationships.

Absolutely.

You're talking about mental health and spirituality. We could go through all eight pillars and see how that question you just asked. Touch on all of them. Thank you for that. That was fantastic. So we've already talked a little bit about finding your passion. Really, really should be rephrased to pursuing your passion.

Absolutely.

Determining your strengths, your gifts and your talents through those tools you gave us. Thank you for that. Thanks for bringing those in. So what do I do with this information now? I've learned my talents, I've learned my strengths. I know what I'm passionate about. I want to put all this into a magical Disneyland pot and stir it up a little bit and then drink from it.

Right.

What do I need to do? You know, you like how I went all over like childish cartoon on that? What do I need to do with all that information. Now that I got it, what's the next step?

You need to be held accountable.

Held accountable. Okay.

So that means you need to tie yourself into. Transform you.

That is true. That's true.

Find a mentor.

We do have fun with those things.

Find a mentor or coach someone. My definition of a mentor is someone who lives to make sure your dreams come true.

Okay. And those are not easy to come by. Right. There's a lot of.

You got to be very careful.

Yes. There's a lot of people out there that might be. They might call themselves a coach, they might pursue it for.

Sort of the right reasons, but in the end of it, it's more for personal gain.

Right.

Unfortunately, we see that too much. What type of person should they be looking for?

You need to look at the person and realize, first of all that since we are faith based.

Are they living.

For God? What is their spirituality like?

Do they have the confidence? See, I'm not interested in their following.

Yeah. Doesn't matter how many people are following on Twitter.

I need to know you have reproduced.

People to be who God has designed them to be.

There it goes again. Humans enhancing humans.

That's it? Yeah, that's it.

Okay, you mentioned earlier, you have to understand the mission of wherever you're working at, you're doing work at. We can relate to it. Being military guys, we have a mission. It's the same thing in civilian world. You have to understand the mission.

Yep.

And then you have to tie yourself to the mission.

Yes.

Now, I've seen you talk about this mission statement before. We've actually had a conversation before, and it challenged me to come up with my own mission statement. Statement.

Good.

So I don't have it.

He knew I was gonna ask that.

He knew.

I saw how you did that. Yeah.

But I'm gonna own up to it. I didn't do it. Like, that was actually one of our conversations. The end of it. You challenged me to come up with a mission statement, and I was all gung ho about it. And then we hung up. And I was scared to death about coming up with my own mission statement.

Well, I'm gonna tell you, I was.

One of those folks that did not do it. Did not pursue it. Well, let's restart.

And I, as a coach, should have followed up with you. So forgive me for not doing that.

See what she did there? She took it all back. That's what leaders do now. I know. I just feel bad at that. I like to let mama down.

But to. To write your own mission Personal mission statement. Your personal mission statement should be who you are, what you do, who you do it for and why.

Got that?

Who you are.

What you do.

Who.

You do it for, who you are, what you do, who you do it.

For, who you do it for and why.

And why.

It should be your personal mission statement that wakes you up in the morning, not the alarm clock.

I wish it was. I hate my alarm clock. I really do.

I like that.

That's good. I want to steal that from you later. Is that okay?

No, absolutely.

So for over 25 years, my personal mission statement has been to encourage, empower and inspire people to achieve excellence in every area of their life and realize their God given potential. To help them design their life and not live by default.

That is so good.

That's fantastic.

That's what I. No, we can't do that, unfortunately.

You don't know how many times people ask me, can I just take yours?

Can I just take yours? Well, no, we can't because then we can't own up to it.

Duh.

Or live up to it.

Or support it.

Feeling those stilettos.

You killing me.

I'm not doing that.

I will say she hit on something that I feel is very important from the mentor standpoint. That from the guy who needed the directional standpoint is part of the reason why we need that. Is that the somebody keep you honest?

Yes.

You know, abs, you know. Yeah, it's.

Know seek that out more so not because, you know, oh, we, you know, oh, poor me, I need, I need help.

It's, it's. You need somebody. Do you go to the gym by yourself? You know, you need somebody to help keep you on track. You need somebody to keep you honest.

And because you'll talk yourself about anything.

Oh, you will.

And helps build those habits and helps you see that from another viewpoint.

Absolutely.

And you want to, you want to get around the people, make sure there's someone has your best interest in heart.

Right.

We're not talking about beating you across the head with, no, you should be doing this. Why aren't you doing that? None of that stuff. It's more like the very simple analogy of, hey, I wouldn't stick that fork into the socket if I were you.

Right, right.

You're looking out for someone's best interest.

Absolutely.

Is that right?

Absolutely.

Is that one of the big motivating factors for the right type of coach? Oh, for sure.

It's not about them. It's never about me as a coach. It's all about the person that I'm Spending the time with.

That's right.

Because it's. That is critical. You're talking lives.

Yeah.

And that's a major responsibility.

I keep forgetting about the playbook, and he keeps reminding me.

Hey, man, before you take the field, you might want to look at the playbook and see which plays are open. That's what we call the book at Transform you live. It is actually a playbook because we want people to understand that you can pull it out at any time and call the plays how you want and how you see fit best for your life.

It's not just.

It's not a book that you read from COVID to back. It's something you can pick up literally whenever you need to. I'm glad you brought that up. So your mission statement. I kind of. I'm glad you shared it. I'm not glad you shared it, because now I got to make one that's at least 30 words long. Something I'm really glad you shared in all seriousness, because that is fantastic. And I know that you're living up to it, because I've seen the stuff that you're doing. I've watched you. You're traveling the country right now with Amplify Her Life.

Yes.

I'm a dude, and I want to go to these things, but it's mostly a women's empowerment.

Correct. It's a women's empowerment conference.

What else is this thing about?

Amplify Her Life was started by my coach, Erica Latrice.

The ladder gets taller and taller.

I have to have a coach. I have to have someone hold me accountable to what I say I want to do. And so she.

Brought 10 of us together, 10 women that she has mentored. And we are traveling the country. Two cities already down. Austin, Texas, and Atlanta, Georgia. Phenomenal. And this month will be Chicago, Illinois. Next month will be New York City, and we finish in October with Los Angeles, the City of Angels.

Wow.

She doesn't do anything small.

It doesn't sound like it. She's not going.

Like, I thought we'd start with a little city, you know?

Nah, you gotta set the standard.

Go big or go home, Right?

That's right.

That's fantastic. Okay, so these are just live events to empower women. Almost sort of do what you did with us today. Is that right?

Well, what we do is usually the first day is the evening, and it's for people that are sort of vip and so we have dinner with them, the team, and it's very intimate. Time of fellowship and bonding, get to.

Know each other some More.

And then the next day, you hear from a few of us featured speakers. But then there's also a component, because we're not about just teaching you what you need to do. We're talking about you putting it to use right from the start. So, yes.

They get to have their voice on stage.

Oh, wow. On stage to talk about their story.

Yeah.

That's powerful.

I think that's necessary.

It is necessary.

I heard a concept this week off of a podcast that someone was doing like a TED Talks type of thing where they had professional speakers, but then they were going around and they were actually giving the mic to people to share their story. There's so much power in someone's story. I was telling someone about this today. I think everyone has a unique background story that deserves to be bragged about. But what you're telling me you're doing is you're pulling people up on stage. And.

Do they know that they're sharing this before they get to the. They do. Okay.

Hey, surprise, right? No.

They are usually voted from their peers and all. And they get to be on stage.

That's other people encouraging them to get up there. That's awesome.

And, you know, we don't critique them.

No, it's.

You got to get that first one out of the way.

Yeah, that's true.

And then you've got all of us saying, great, good job. You did it.

Yeah.

Now you got that behind you.

Yeah.

And now go for it.

And what else do they do after that? After they've got that out of the way, that's a huge, huge burden to lift off their shoulders. Now that's off the way. What do they do next?

Well, there's little games and we did speed coaching, like the speed dating, but this was speed coaching. So they got to spend a few minutes with all the different coaches, get.

Different perspectives from different people.

And then there was a mastermind group. And I'm excited to say that in a few short months, Amplify her Life meetup will be right here in Raleigh.

Wow. That's awesome.

Yes. So myself, along with my sister, Darlene Thorne, she's also a part of the Amplifier her tour, and she lives in Garner. And we're actually going to do a meetup.

You hear that, ladies?

Yeah.

It's coming right here, Raleigh.

And we're gonna set. If you're interested in being entrepreneur or you're in corporate America or you're an author or you just. You need some direction.

Then we want you to come.

I've seen this site. It is Full of purple, but it is fantastic.

Regal.

It's regal. Regal's it.

Royalty.

It is fantastic. All right, so amplifyherlife.com and see how they can get more information there. How do they get more information about you? Where can they go and find Karen Gilliam and make sure they ride the curtails and skirt tails and they stay with you because I'm on for the ride and I'm enjoying it. I'm telling people they need to go there now. How can they stay in touch with you?

Well, I am on Facebook. My business page is Karen Gilliam and.

I'm all about empowerment, encouragement and inspiration. So this week I'm going to give you the five Cs of leadership.

Five Cs of leadership. Okay.

And so those will be videos, Live videos, Facebook Live. And my website is live. And so I encourage you to go to www.karengilliam.com.

Alright? We're actually going to put that out there on our stuff. And if you need to know how to spell her name, just look in the feed here and you'll be able to see it.

It's like William, but with a G.

Like William, but better with a G. Sorry, Williams, you're out there. Go out and check her out. Karengilliam.com Take your vitamin Cs and get the five Cs on leadership. And thank you so much for hanging out with us today. I told you every time I talk to you, I mean, I'm not like him. My brain's a storm right now. I've got a lot of stuff going through it.

Well, I never. I said there's never coincidence.

No, there's not.

This was a divine appointment for me to meet Mark today.

I absolutely believe this. Everything. You have no idea how well this.

Worked out today and we are so much better for it. Thank you. You just made our show way better. Thank you so much.

Oh, Josh. I get excited every time you guys invite me to Journey Principles. So the best is yet to come.

That's right. We'll see you guys next week on the Journey Principles radio show. Have a great week.