How To Make Your First $1,000,000

We're all in a relationship with money. We all get to decide what kind of relationship we want to be in. Right? Think about the person you love the most. If you were to go to them and say, you're never there for me when I need you, I don't trust you, do you think that they would stay around you? Probably not. No one wants to be somewhere where people don't want them. And so the way you relate to money makes money think that you don't want it, you don't desire it, you don't think that you should, you should have respect for it. And therefore, that's why it's not showing up in your life experience. But if you could learn to shift the way you see money by shifting the way you see yourself and the way you see God, then you would open up a reality for your money to also shift. And so that's essentially what I've experienced. I used to believe you have to work hard for money, and recognizing that hard work just makes you tired. But if you get in alignment with money, than financial success, success ensues. And that's now the place that I teach from.

Guys, help me welcome my good friend Darnell Harmon. How are you doing?

I am so good, Steven. I'm so excited to be here. I've been looking for this, for this conversation for. It feels like months.

Let's go. I love it. You know, it's funny, our audience is always about leveling up, and recently, I would say it's always been an undertone. But recently I've been a bit more outspoken with my faith in general. I had a lot of guests on obviously that share my faith, others that share elements of my faith and all this kind of stuff. And you know, I started, I start off every each day with a mantra. I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I am wise, I'm a steward of the most high, and I love you, Stephen.

That just gave me chills. I love it.

You know, so the reason I, I bring that up is because I know a lot of your work outside of building businesses, which is hard and easy and fun and all that stuff. At the same time.

There'S a large component that deals with faith based abundance and how you've been brought that into your, into your business and your personal life. Talk to me a little bit about that because I find that there's a bigger, there's a bit of a shift happening right now. And I'm saying it's for, for those who are a bit more faith driven of a Bit more of abundance of prosperity heading their way.

Yeah. So I've always been a God girl, you know, born and raised in the church, very religious. And as I grew and as I started to make decisions for myself, decided to develop a relationship with God. And so today, I'm much more relationship focused than I am religiously focused. But I believe that honoring the Creator and recognizing that in creating me, he did the world a favor is doing the world a favor. And so my confidence is the God that is in me. And I'm unapologetic, Stephen, because at the end of the day, you know, here in the United States, our money says, in God we trust.

Yeah.

And our politicians, as we just happen to be during the recording of this episode in another election cycle, say before they end every speech and God bless America. Right. So we are not agnostic to God. And, you know, the forming of the United States came from those who wish to escape religious persecution.

Yeah.

And even as they were looking to escape that, they still brought God with them to this country. And so as a result of that, that's just kind of my standing. I believe that there is a way to be faith filled without being offensive. And I present an opportunity for everyone to evaluate their own faith. And I just believe that that's the way that it happens. Right. I believe life is better and businesses go farther, faster when faith is involved. And because that's my stance, I think my boldness and unapologetic nature about it is why people are so tolerable and open up opportunities to explore their faith themselves in their work. I run into a lot of people who were closet Christians or closet believers, but now they're looking for ways to explore and exploit their faith as a part of what they do every single day. And I believe, you know, when we think about, know, like, trust, which is marketing 101, when you are willing to be bold about the things, the values that matter to you.

Yeah.

It intensifies people knowing you, liking you and trusting you.

Yeah.

And while it's not a gimmick, it's who I am. It has certainly brought us so much more because we are forthcoming about what we. What we do, what we believe, and how we show up in the world.

Yeah, man. So good. I was also thinking too, you know, you and I actually share commonality. You don't know this, but you're gonna find out. Now, we've both had parents that have stolen resources from us.

Oh.

In their most, you know, difficult, wounded state.

And the reason I'm bringing that up is Because I think there's an interesting correlation between trust and money and, and those that, you know, profess love and admiration for us and things of that nature. How did that shape your earlier beliefs about money? Maybe even limiting beliefs and kind of. How do you see it now?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Limiting beliefs. So, you know, my parents, as the saying goes, they didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. And they, they transferred that into us. So we grew up very poor and very lack minded even when we had money. And when I, I started working when I was 13 because I went to my dad when I was 12 and asked him for $20 so that I could get a matching outfit to my friends when we were going to an amusement park for our seventh grade trip. And I asked my dad for $20 and he said, oh, you think I have a tree out back with money on it? You've got to work hard for money. Memory lesson. Belief.

Yeah.

And so I started working at 13 and I've been working since I was 13.

Me too.

And I, uh, at 16, I had about $7,500. My dad stole the money. He was an addict, fully functioning addict. But he said to me, oh, you thought you were living here for free? And so both of these meanings of money began to flower and infiltrate what innocence I had about money. And it began to govern everything that I did. I became a hoarder of money.

Because I was so afraid. The belief was, you get money, but then someone just takes it away from you.

Yeah.

And so I became so afraid to invest in myself or even to buy the things that I needed, not even once, but just needed because it would require my money to shift. And I was so afraid that that would cause a deficit. And so it flowered the early years, probably into my mid-30s, I still struggled with many of those limiting beliefs. And they only changed even because I filed bankruptcy at 35 with a quarter of a million dollars in credit card debt. I'm not in, I'm not, I'm not embarrassed to tell you that, but I'm also not excited to tell you that. But it's my truth because of the things that my parents taught me around money. And the bankruptcy trustee changed my life because he required that I take a financial literacy course. Now why I never thought to seek out how to become financially literate on my own, who knows? It wasn't taught in school, wasn't taught in college. Even though I worked for a bank, there was no class to teach me how to manage My own money. I think about that today, recognizing that 63% of adults live paycheck to paycheck, and 92% of adults claim that they experience financial stress. And that affects the way they work every single day. And at that particular point in time, that crossroad of being offered or extended an olive branch to learn about money, it changed my life. A year later, I was a million.

Yeah, let's go.

Three years later, I had a million dollar company. All because I learned what money was. I learned how to relate to it and how to build a relationship. And I. I want to say this to your listeners. We're all in a relationship with money, and we all get to decide what kind of relationship we want to be in. Right. Think about the person you love the most. If you were to go to them and say, you know, you're never there for me when I need you, I don't trust you. You, it's expensive and you're a lot. Do you think that they would stay around you? Probably not. No one wants to be somewhere where people don't want them.

Yeah.

And so the way you relate to money makes money think that you don't want it, you don't desire it, you don't think that you should. You should have respect for it. And therefore, that's why it's not showing up in your life experience. But if you could learn to shift the way you see money by shifting the way you see yourself and the way you see God.

Mm.

Then you would open up a reality for your money to also shift. And so that's essentially what I've experienced, and it's now the platform that I teach from. I used to believe you have to work hard for money, and recognizing that hard work just makes you tired. But if you get in alignment with money, then financial success ensues. And that's now the place that I teach from.

Yeah. No, that's so good. You know, I was also thinking too.

As someone else who went, who went through a similar journey with money, relationship with money, mentor key mentor steps in, radically changes. How it begins to radically change, I should say, because I was a little bit. A bit more of a hard head. Took me a little extra time.

I love the fact that you are being vulnerable and sharing the stories because I find that most people that the folks that we would just mentioned, these, roughly 70% of the people in the world that, you know, really struggle to understand.

Do something from a place of feeling guilty and shameful that they don't understand and the reason they Feel guilty and shameful. They don't understand is because they don't have the practical knowledge.

Right.

Then put it into practice to actually make it work in an effort to, like, make things, like, awesome, you know, for them financially. And as a result, as I'm kind of like, looking at things and going through things and tearing things apart, it seems to me that there's a bit of a system that were grown up in that were not actually made aware of financial principles or financial. Or even biblical financial principles. Yeah. You know, I was thinking recently that, you know, most of us will go to school, A lot of us will go to college. I did not. But a lot of us go to college. We'll go into serious debt. We'll then think the job that we're supposed to get when we come out of college is supposed to help us on. On get out of debt or get out of debt, that we're supposed to be able to buy a home at some, you know, sometime in the near future, have a nice vehicle that's reliable, that, you know, maybe we know, get. Get to the place where, you know, most of us, I think, would say that we can afford monthly payment on. You and I both know that's not wise now. We didn't know that then, you know, so when you share your story about where you overcome your own financial beliefs, your relationships, as well as the. The actual. The debt piece and, and just overcoming that whole scenario, it seems like you were unable. You were able to un. Unattached the guilt and the shame and the, I guess the, the stigma that comes with not handling money well the first time. Was that a portion of the financial literacy piece? Is that something you had to go to God with and kind of like, sit with. I'm curious to know what your process was as you were kind of doing that, because again, I think the vast majority of people watching and listening would probably wish they were in a better financial situation, even if. Even if they're making really good money. I know people that make great money and are terrible with it.

Right. And they still, they still get it and it goes. Right. So it was a combination. Right. I think that there is definitely prayer. Just because I'm in relationship with God and just like I'm in relationship with my husband. We talk about things and so some of it was that some of it was reading books. Like in this financial literacy course, not only did I learn about budgeting and just, you know, the traditional definitions of money, we had a book that we read, a Happy Pocket full of Money. By David Cameron Jakandi that also talked about the physics or the neuroscience of money, which I think is an important lesson to learn. And it's very different than the practical definition of money. So it was some of that and then it was also through working with my therapist in full transparency and deciding that what I was taught and what I caught about money wasn't true. I believe that our parents and our elders teach us from their filter. And I believe that most of the things that they teach us specifically around money are incorrect, but it's because it's what they learned. Right. Money is a subject that is taboo. Whether people are wealthy or poor. They probably come from a family where they are told that it is disrespectful to talk about or ask people about money.

I was told I would be evil if I had money, right?

Absolutely. So many people misquote first Timothy 6 and 10. And because that's what we're taught.

We have no reason to believe that it's not true because it's coming from people we admire, revere and look up to. And so we internalize it and we do what we saw done. And so that's how the cycle continues. Right. That's how we evoke a generational curse habit, whichever word you want to use. And especially for those of us who grew up and were taught that money is evil, which is not what the scripture says.

Correct.

Scripture says for the love of money is the root of all evil. For they that covet if after have erred from the faith. And that is what has called them, calls them sorrow. And for the love of money is the Greek word avarice. Because the Bible was not written in English. It is poorly translated.

Yeah.

And so what the scripture actually says is.

Oh gosh, why did I just lose my complete train of thought that greed like being greedy.

Yeah. It's basically making money in idol, right?

Yeah, yeah, that's what the scripture actually says. But that's not the way it's quoted. We're just told that if you love money and it's okay to love money because love is patient and kind and it keeps no record of wrongs. But if you have extreme greed around money, then that is indeed a problem. In that same scripture, in that same chapter later, Timothy, who was being mentored by Paul because his territory has wealthy people in it, Timothy is actually told what to tell the wealthy people when they come. And there's basically three commands. Don't be high minded or arrogant. Do good deeds and remember the source of your wealth.

Yep.

So as long as you remember that anything that we have, all good and perfect gifts come from God and money is a good and perfect gift. I don't like when people say all money is not good money. I actually believe that's a trauma response because, yeah, money is good. People make money bad. Yeah, Money in and in and of itself is just an energy it takes on whatever form we give to it. And. But because of how we're taught, we internalize all of these things that impact the way we show up around it, which causes the guilt, which makes us not charge what we deserve to earn based on the value we offer in the marketplace. Which is probably, you know, a whole nother conversation either for today or another day.

That's right.

But it all stems from money. And so doing all of this work, reading the books, working with my therapist, conversations with God, challenging the beliefs, challenging what I was taught, finding that it is actually not true and there is not evidence to substantiate it, and reframing the belief, that's the reason why today I have an amazing relationship with money. And I have a lot of it.

Yeah, no, that's awesome. You know, I was also thinking too.

When Jesus, when Jesus is teaching us about stewardship. Okay, so, you know, you're, you heard me kick this whole thing off with one of my little mantras. And I'm a steward of the most high, right? So whatever resource, relationship, capital, physical money, capital, my mindset, whatever, it's, it's all his. It's all honoring it. Seems like to me the greatest honor you could do is to actually be a good steward with whatever you've been given. And like he does with the five talent principle, he's like, look, if you will be a good steward of x, I will. 10xx5xx6. You know, this principle, this understanding, which makes me think a little bit.

How much truth do you think there is to this statement?

Both poverty and abundance are a Choice.

I agree 100%.

Yeah, so.

100%.

So whittle that down for me from your lens and, and kind of your filter because, you know, you are, you're obviously, you're, you're definitely connected to the guy, which is amazing. You've, you've done some pretty amazing things already, and you're in your, you got more in front of you.

Yes.

You know, we both care deeply about serving an audience and helping people understand what we now know to be true and helping them level up their, their abundance and their financial mindset and things of that nature. Yeah, Walk me a Little through a little bit. Maybe how we help them go from making that choice and maybe what the the cause for each choice.

Yeah, absolutely. So I, I, I've been asked this question before differently. Right. So I always say or point to an example. The fact that money is plenteous and it's around and it never goes away is, is it illustrates that it is a choice. Right. You have the person who's homeless, who living on the street. Now, someone would probably argue but Darnell, life circumstances happen to them. And I would respond, that may be true, but they still chose to allow the circumstances that to take them out and make them homeless. Yeah, yeah, right. Versus the person who is living high on the hog, so to speak, with all the accoutrements of life, they made choices that continue to not only steward the wealth that they were given, but multiply the wealth. So let's borrow from the parable of the talents for a second. I love. This is my favorite.

It's one of my favorite ones in the long run.

Mine too. Mine too. Stephen. Okay, so master goes away, entrusts three servants based on how the master sees the servants. That is how he determines who he gives what. So the one that he believes, now this is the Darniel interpretation of the scripture. So the one that he believes is the most confident, who has the most business acumen and who will be prepared to double his money. He gives the most because he is 100% confident in advance that if he demonstrates to this particular servant his belief in him, he will make more.

Yeah, yeah.

To the one that is second in command. Same thing gives him three. Because he knows in advance that he is going to show himself fully capable of making more with what he was given to the one that he trusts the least because he understands how he sees himself. He gives the lease and he is proven correct once again because that particular servant buries the talent. Because he said, I was afraid. When you allow fear to govern the decisions that you make, you operate outside of the context to which you were given the gift in the first place.

Yeah.

And I believe that those of us who have made the choice to live impoverished have done that very thing. Now, I'm not saying that there's not a spark event or a triver that a trigger that caused whatever remove their opportunity to have access to money and have money flowing.

Yeah.

But I do believe that when life circumstances happen, it's about mindset and whether or not you are going to allow it to happen to you or if you're going to see it as an opportunity for it to have happened for you.

Yeah.

It's victim versus Victor.

Yeah. And the difference between the two is learning.

Right. And I think some of us choose victim and others of us choose victory. And based on just that decision, that will determine what the rest of the story looks like. Because a series of missteps and. Listen, I've been bankrupt. I almost lived in my car. I ate ramen noodles and peanut butter and jelly every other day for 18 months.

Yeah.

I did not know how I was going to change my situation, except I knew that I had been given some gifts and talents, and I humbled myself. Now, this was Darnell. As a new entrepreneur who filed bankruptcy. I took my behind back to work.

Yeah.

Because I had marketable skills. And while it wasn't what I wanted to do, was what I needed to do in that season to prevent myself from living in a car. I made a choice because I could have chosen to ride out entrepreneurship until I made that first sale. And who knows where I might have been? But I chose to go back and get a job. And when I got that job, I also chose that there was going to be an expiration date on how long I would be there. So I signed an agreement for a two year commitment to this role. And three months into that second year, I put in my letter of resignation. I gave them three months notice so that I could prepare and get everything set up for whoever was gonna be my predecessor. But I was leaving because I gave myself an expiration date of how long I would be there. And I also promised that when I came back into this business full time, I would be unemployable and I would only work for myself and create jobs. That was 14 years ago.

Yeah. Yeah.

And here we are now. Because I made a choice. And so I believe that we get to choose.

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100% agree.

You know, so if you're, if you're able to see yourself as worthy of wealth, then you're able to eventually steward wealth, which I think is pretty interesting. It actually, I have a story. I don't know if I've actually shared this publicly on the show before.

But I'm going to share it with you because I'm feeling led to. So here we go. When I was homeless and finally breaking free from that mindset, I'd had some different pivotal moments. I, you know, Jesus came and got me in the whole deal. Like I got, literally I was the, I was the epitome of the rescue. Like definitely rescued. Okay.

I go back to work for, ironically a construction company that, that at the time I had walked away from a year earlier when I was making all kinds of money. I was the arrogant, prideful knucklehead, made a bunch of money, didn't know how to manage it, lost it all. That was just complete doofus. And I'm okay with that because it's.

Part of your story?

Yeah, it's part of the story, right. But the interesting thing was, is, and I, people ask me one time she's what do you, what do you attribute your wealth to? And of course the, that answer is like 15 different things wide. But the one that keeps coming up is every time that someone has ever asked me that question, I'm taken back to a living memory of a story. And I had been back at work for maybe a week, okay, not, didn't have hardly anything. I had $4 and 68 cents in my pocket. My grandfather invites me to a church service in a place called Clayton, North Carolina. Very small town, very home, homegrown, non denominational church, all this kind of stuff. And like a lot of churches they bring in guests, speakers, evangelists, pastors and so on and so forth. To this day I don't remember, I can't remember the pastor's name. I can't remember where he came from, like what other, whatever place he came from other than he was telling a story. And in the story he was saying he was actually, well, he was sharing a story from the Bible and he was talking about Jesus, talking about, he was, I think he was coaching his disciples a little bit with money. And he, and they said, well, you know, who is greater? And you know, Jesus goes, well, you know the woman. So basically there's two people in the story. So I'm hodgepodging a little bit. There's a Pharisee and all of his wealth. He's going up to the temple and he's giving his 10%. He's putting in exactly the requested amount. Meanwhile, followed by a widow who in my mind is stumbling up with a cane. I don't know why, but she's always had a cane in my hand and she's stumbling up to the, to the temple and she pretty much gives all she had, right? And then in the disciples, and then Jesus says, well, who do you think was greater? Who do you think will be greater than the kingdom of heaven? And the disciples, you know, obviously go back and forth for a little bit and then Jesus answers the question for them that the widow that gave all she had, so therefore she'd be greater in the kingdom of heaven. The reason I share that story is because I'm in some cases I'm convinced that I began actually physically hearing from God at about this time after my little literal, what we call the litter box conversion, because that's where it happened for me. And one of the things that happened was, is about that time they took up an offering for this evangelist. Okay. Which is not uncommon in the church. Right. And I had $4 and 68 cents in my entire pocket. I had barely eaten for a week straight. I was just kind of like shaking off all the. I would call it financial hangover from being spiritually stupid and the whole deal, like, shaking it off finally. Right? And about the time the. The play is about four people from me, I actually hear in my spirit, give the money.

And I'm like, literally, I had four people from me to them to decide whether or not to give this money. At the last possible second, as that offering plate was coming across, I tossed in my $4 and 68 cents.

I didn't hear, good, good and good and well done, faithful servant. I didn't hear. I just felt like. In fact, I actually was like. I actually went. As I'm watching the. The plate go, four people pass me. Now I'm panicking a little bit. So that was my. That was my Wendy's money to get my Dave's double on the way home.

Yeah.

To eat that night.

I actually didn't eat that night. But the next morning, I had a prospective client asked me to do a little side project their house. And they gave me $468 for it.

Oh, that just gave me chills.

You see what I'm saying? So when people say, what point do you begin? Do you think you began to steward wealth? And I think it's the point for me, when God asked me to do it.

Yeah. When you were willing to surrender. Being willing to lose it all is how you gain it all. One of the things I talk about often from stage or with my clients, is detaching from any and all outcomes. I do a live event, which is hard because we're humans. Right. I do this live event every May. It's called Move to Millions. This past year, we had 138 people.

Let's go.

And I don't set goals. I stopped setting goals about four or five years ago. And now I just. My. My only outcome is to serve. To serve them like they are already making millions and to allow the God in me to radiate through the space. That's my only goal.

Yeah.

And since deciding to start to do that, the event produces a million dollars plus every time.

Wow.

And it doesn't matter how many people are in the room. And what I recognized is that.

Surrender, being willing to lose it all, giving up your $4.68, there is a reward. Now. There's also the principle Right. The principle of the tithe. We are taught in Malachi that if we are willing to give the tithe, then God will open up the windows of heaven and pour us out blessings that we don't have room enough to receive. And when we don't tithe, we deny God from opening the windows of heaven and pouring out blessings we don't have room enough to receive. So you don't. You don't have to tithe. Yeah, you get to tithe.

Yeah.

And when you operate under the principle of the tithe, then you get the principle of the overflowed blessings. And so that's what God showed you and showed you right away to continue to give you the confidence and the courage to lean into his voice and to know that by doing so, your wealth had already been established.

Yeah.

It wasn't even a wait until you get to this point. It was an immediate. Just by obeying. Obedience is greater than sacrifice. Right. But just by obeying and being willing, the. The Pharisee is to the letter because he's not willing. The Bible says God loves a cheerful giver. So I'd rather, and I'm sure you would probably say the same thing, don't give to me begrudgingly, keep it.

Yeah.

Only give to me. If you are 100% confident that in so doing there's a blessing for you, like something's coming. If it's your last, and all you can think about is your last, it will be your last.

Yeah.

But if you honor me. Right. The Bible says, honor my profit. If you honor the prophets, then you get a prophet's reward. And so it's understanding the principles of wealth that go along. And that's probably the thing I get the most joy in teaching, Steven, is the principles. And the principles work even if you're not a Christian, even if you're not a believer. I am not called to Christians. I teach the spiritual principles that govern our universe through the lens of the Bible. But I'm not just talking to people who believe. And what I have found is by taking that approach and teaching the principles, is that I win a lot more souls than I would if I tried to cram Jesus down their throats.

100%. 100%. I'm so glad you mentioned that, too, because, you know, it's. It's rare. It's rare to know what to do in the moment. But if you have, I always, in fact, when. When I'm speaking from stage sometimes, one of the things I've. I've said repeatedly is principles Govern promises. Right. So whatever your principle, you know, whatever promise you want to live. I want to have a wonderful, beautiful, healthy marriage. Great. And the principle is you need to be faithful to your spouse, you need to communicate often to your spouse, you need to date your spouse, you need to like, be involved in your spouse's life. Right. So those are principles that build trust and love and companionship and unity and all this kind of stuff. And the same holds true with money. Right, right. You know, the hardest one, I think, for anyone to fully appreciate is the sacrifice when God does tug on your heart. And I think that there's a scripture in Bible says that the gifts and talents are without repentance, which means whatever God blessed you with when he created you to enter this world.

Yeah.

You get to operate in those gifts and strengths and talents even before you get to know Jesus.

Right. And without apology for them too.

Exactly. And when you're able, which also means that because you have those inalienable instincts and those nailable traits, that God has the capacity to continue to talk to you, to build relationship with you, to help grow you, to then prosper you long term. You know, so when we look at these different principles, have there been maybe three really important principles that you share with your audiences or share on your platform that you just. That seem to be like, really? I call them barrier breakers. Right. They're. They're just. These are like, you know, because there's lots of principles and there's, there's what I. I refer to as ultimate principles or just flat out life truths.

Yeah.

Right. Operate with this principle in mind and good things are destined to happen kind of concept. Are there maybe two or three that you're okay with sharing with the audience? Sure. That have been pivotal for you?

Yeah. I would say the first is forgiveness. Right. And to give a scripture reference for those of you who like Bible stories. Mark chapter 11. Starting around verse 20, Jesus and the disciples are walking to town. Jesus sees the fig tree. He wants a fig newton, but the tree isn't producing. So he curses the tree and they keep walking. The next day they're walking back. And Jesus sees that as a teachable moment. Because the disciples cannot believe that the tree actually died. They didn't understand that the power of their tongue changed the circumstances of the tree. Right. Or has the potential to change the circumstances of the tree. And so Jesus says, verily I say to you, you can say to any mountain, move, and it will. If these four things occur, if you believe, if you don't doubt, if you Speak what you want instead and you forgive your brother so that your Father in heaven can forgive you. So forgiveness is a principle that a lot of people want to hold on to the unforgiveness, because they feel like they're letting someone off the hook. But I believe that forgiveness is no longer holding someone responsible for being the version of themselves who did something to hurt you. It's giving people permission and a chance to evolve and become better versions of themselves. And forgiveness is for you. Right. Again, we think we're causing harm to the other person by holding onto it. But forgiveness frees up your flow so that everything you want in your life experience can flow. So that's the first one.

That's your next book, by the way. Free up your flow.

My next book is actually called what Would Abundance Do, But I will talk about freeing up flow in there. I think the second principle is recognizing, and this is also based on Scripture, delight yourself in the Lord and He'll give you the desires of your heart. The desires that we hold are not our original construct. They were placed there by God when we operate in alignment with Him. And so the idea. So the person who's listening right now, in my work, we help our service based entrepreneurial clients get to the million dollar mark and sustain it. Right. And to do it in a way that honors who they are financially and spiritually. And so the desire to have a million dollar company to run a million dollar business is not your original idea. You didn't make it up yourself. God gave it to you. And what that also means, in principle is that if he gave it to you, he's also already worked out the provision for it.

Yep.

So all you need to do is yield, surrender, and allow for that the next step to take. Because I do believe we need to give something, God something to bless. Which is the third principle based on James. Faith without works is dead. We have to give God something to bless. Don't wait on God. He's waiting on you because he gave you power and dominion in Genesis, before He even formed Adam. He said, let us make man in our image and likeness. Let us give him the power and authority to call everything under his subjection. So you already have that power. You came here with that power, operate in that power, and when you operate in that power, then God will show up and show out on your behalf. Principle.

Yeah.

So those are. Those would be the three.

Those are amazing. Thank you. And the funny thing is, so I've never heard someone pivot or discuss the fig tree as it Relates to controlling the power of your tongue or working through the power of your tongue. I thought that was genius. Yeah, I've never heard that, that, that take on that scripture, which I, which is interesting because I, my grandfather used to tell me that the, as you read the Bible, the Bible reads you, which is why you can go back and look at scripture repeatedly and it always says something different, which I think is pretty stinking cool.

It is.

You know, but the other thing I was thinking too is, you know, as you're, as people are operating these principles. How much of it? Because, you know, I'm thinking forgiveness is dealing with ego. Choice is dealing with ego. Your ability to relinquish control is dealing with ego. How much have you seen?

Just moving from an arrogant heart to a humble heart, opening the conduit for gain.

Oh my gosh, like a hundred percent. If you can be willing. Like, I mean, trust me, you know, we're, we have all of these external forces competing for our validity and we're trying to find ourselves in these external things. We're tracking likes. Right? How many people watched my video? Did I go viral? And that is an indication of my value and my worth. When Jeremiah says, before we were formed in our mother's womb, God knew and approved us, so we actually came here validated. And so when I have a person who, again, regardless of their religious affiliation or faith center, that is willing to work the principles, that's what I love about God. Like yes, he gave us Jesus, those of us who clearly wholeheartedly believe. But then he also told us any man who. So the principles work. Even if you don't subscribe to Jesus, they still work. Right. That's how gracious God is, the creator of this abundant universe that we get to live, move in. And so when we are willing to die to self and willing to be wrong, if that's what is called for that humility that flashes over us and not humidity. Humility in the sense that we're hiding, but humility in the sense that we understand our gifts and talents and we use them in celebration of not tearing down of other people.

Yeah.

The real magic is that's, that's when we really get to see the principles unearthed into abundance inside of our life. And so when I watch clients that walk through the doors, boastful, recognize the significance of surrender, obedience, alignment and forgiveness and watch that just fall over their countenance, we watch launches that probably should have failed, exceed. Yeah, like those are the things that happen when you realize that it's more about your soul and the significance of it than the strategy.

Yeah.

And I know that's hard for people to hear because all they want to know is how to do a challenge. I could just figure out how to host a challenge, right. If I could figure out how to go live and sell my product. If I could figure out how to create a YouTube video series and I'd make millions. But if we be willing to abandon the strategy in order to get into alignment with what God desires for us as a collective humanity, then what we get to watch defies any strategy and does greater than any strategy exceeds any KPI. Because we were willing to operate inside of the principles and experience surrender and forgiveness and obedience.

Yeah. I was also thinking too that you know, the importance of alignment too, when the. Especially going back to scripture, where God will give you the desires of your heart as you surrender to him. Basically, I discovered. I don't know if you discovered the same thing, that the desires of my heart changed as I got closer to him. Therefore it became easier to get the desires of my heart. So rather than going after. And I'll give you. We'll use the challenge example, right? So if someone said, well, how do I make my challenge work? And my argument to them is, rather than trying to sell your challenge, why don't you try to serve people with a challenge?

Correct.

Right. So go out and build your. I always say that especially in this digital world, it's very difficult to monetize a digital based business, whether thought, leadership, personal development, books, courses, whatever, until you build a community. And you can't build a community until after someone else has felt like you've helped them solve a problem or they have been served by whatever resource or thought or whatever that you give them to help them change lives. Which is, which is why I'm not surprised at all.

Right.

That you've been as successful as you have been already and that you do this event every year and it basically produces every single year for the. For yourself and the people in attendance. It's because you sought to serve first.

Absolutely. Service is everything. And you know, it just made me think, even for the person who's listening right now, even when it comes to the sales and sales conversations, focus on being of service. Right. You should speak 20% of the time or less in a sales call. It's not about you, it's about them. It's about getting a clear understanding of what they're navigating right now and hearing fully, showing up, listening and hearing to be able to synthesize what you're being told to present them with a solution that's going to get them closer to where they desire to be instead of where they are now. And it's all based on an element of service. And although it's service, because I can hear the person who's saying, yeah, but I want to be well paid. Yeah. I've been to many a restaurant, some of them with amazing service, and every single time they gave me a bill. Service does not mean free. Right. This is not a volunteer effort. And there's a way to be paid and paid well when you serve and serve well.

Yeah, I would also, I would also say that there's a way to be.

Paid well slash rewarded well, that may be outside of money. So. And there's been times where I've personally just, I went out to go serve a client and client talked to another client that happened to be a very high profile client. And while the person that I served the first time didn't, quote, pay me, the person that they introduced me to paid me well.

Yeah.

You know, just by building up that credibility factor and whatnot. I'm also reminded by something TD I heard TD Jake say a number of years ago. It's been a while. He's using that, he's using a table as a reference. Everybody's praying, I can't do TD Jakes's voice, I'm not going to try. But he's saying, he's, he's saying, you know, this is, there was this man, he was praying for a table. God, I need a table. I need four legs. I needed to be, I need an oak table. God, anything more than I just need an oak table. And then he says the next morning, the, the guy gets a acorn in the, in the mail.

And the guy's like puzzled by it. And then finally a, you know, Passerby, this is TDJ's telling the story, so I mean, butchering it. But you know, passerby comes up and says, well, all you gotta do is grow the tree, right? And so many times the, the destinies, if you will, that are in our heart, the purpose we're called to live, the businesses that are wrapped up in it, around it, you know, near it. All of that seems to me like all we have to do is continue to water and grow the tree, which in many cases is us. Like, we are the, we are the, we are the producer. Inside of the acorn is multiple acorns. You know, inside of that, inside of that oak tree are thousands of acorns and that's the. I always say that that's the spirit of overflow. So at least in your case. In my case, I think that we would both say that part of our calling now is to be the one, to inspire the many to become the one.

Correct. And I mean. And honestly, that's why my company is called Incredible One Enterprises. I love it. Right. Like, if I do my job right, I am creating the ones.

Yeah.

That are going to go out and shake the planet.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? Inside of the work that it is that we do.

Yeah, man. So good. Well, look, I. I know we're running, but I'm short on time at the moment. But I wanted to make sure everyone has a chance to connect with you. Where would you like everybody to find out more about you and kind of things you're working on? Maybe even attend the conference.

Yeah. If they go. If they go to movetomillions.com we made it really easy. And once you go there, you'll see links to everything. So we've got free gifts. People can explore. They can learn about my book, my podcast, our live event, all of those things. If you just go to movetomillions.com you can learn about them.

Ah, man. So good. Darnell, thank you so much for hanging out with us today. I know the audience can absolutely love this, and they got lots of takeaways. You're welcome to come back on the show anytime you want.

Awesome. I would love it. Thank you so much for having me, Steven. I appreciate it.

Take care.

Take care.

I hope you liked that video. And if you did, make sure you check out this next video right here. Father, I thank you for every man listening, and I pray God that you would make yourself known to them in a way as a heavenly father that they'd never known, either ever, or maybe on a different level where they can trust you, where they actually know you are so proud of them. You love them. You're excited for them because you look at them through perfection of your son, Jesus Christ.