REPROGRAM Your Mind To Achieve SUCCESS TODAY! | Sir Marco Robinson

If you got fired today, what's the first thing you do?

And the default answer is look for another job.

Yeah, that's true.

It's not. Oh. What I do is I take the time to learn how to start my own business.

You're super passionate about beliefs and how those things have radically transformed your life. People heard a lot, a lot about you on the intro. You're obviously been very successful, but I know for a fact it hasn't always been that way. I was wondering if you kind of break down the backstory a little bit and then we'll get into how you got knighted and all that good stuff.

Okay. Oh, backstory. So when I was two, my mum left my dad. He was a gambler, gambling addict, and he would spend all the money in the house. His wages, my mum was wages. He ran debts all over town. And she was 23, she was young, I was 2. So she had no choice other than to leave him because there was no money.

Yeah.

And then she went to the north of England, which in January, which is really cold and it was snowing, she went to go and try and live with her mom and a stepfather. And she was on the doorstep with me in her arms. But what I didn't know until, actually she only told me this when she was 73. She kept it a secret for 50 years, is that she was sexually abused by stepfather quite, quite heavily. So for her to be on that doorstep was kind of a terrifying ordeal. In fact, when she was 12, his stepdad put his hand on her breast and said, I didn't marry your mum for your mom. I married your mom to get to you.

Oh, man.

Can you imagine that? Yeah. So it was a horrendous thing. And imagine how she was feeling.

Yeah.

So that her stepdad said on the doorstep to my grandma. It's either me or them to my grandma. And my grandma said, I'm sorry you can't stay. So we slept. We had nowhere to go. We slept in the park.

Yeah.

For three nights. We nearly died. And eventually we got taken in. My friends of friends. And my mom wasn't educated. She was. She was working casual jobs to basically make ends meet and survive. So we were very transient. She would move around the country looking for work. We were sleeping on people's sofas, cars, garages. Anything we could find, she could find because I was too young. And this was going on for a good six, seven years.

Goodness gracious.

And then she met my stepdad, who was supposed to be the salvation of the whole her life. And he turned out to be schizophrenic. So he was great on the outside to people socially, but he was very physically abusive inside the house. So, you know, I'd witnessed my mum being beaten up, pushed downstairs and as a nine year old kid you cannot cope with that, that kind of trauma. Yeah, and it left a scar and you know, a lot of it I don't remember in detail because I would.

Yeah, like most of it out, I've had a lot of those same memories.

So I would either sleep under the bed and cry myself to sleep and I would run away from home. And I wasn't interested in school. When I did go to school, I was the boy at the back of the class looking out the window pretending I was in a movie playing James Bond because that was the only way I could escape was inside my head. So this went on for years. And I was also bullied. I was bullied heavily and intensely because I was in. I was always the new kid at school. I had bright orange ginger hair.

You were the ginger.

I was white as paper. I was very small. I would, everyone would see me. So I tried to dye my hair to kind of disappear, you know, and I got bullet till I was 15. And then when I was 15 there was 20 boys punching and kicking me in a garage. And eventually I saw red. I didn't know what I did next but I fought back basically. And the next thing I remember I was running down the road chasing 20 boys going, come on, come on, there.

You go, there you go.

So that was the pivot. That was the pivot. There was so much pain that it was time to fight back. But you know, I didn't get, I didn't get a high usain American high school diploma, didn't get any qualifications, Left school at 15, worked as many jobs as I could to pay the bills, left home again. It was transient. When I got to 21, I got into direct sales selling timeshare in the 80s for $10,000 a week of timeshare. And of course I was the worst salesperson because I was the shyest, what I was doing right. But I know, I knew I didn't want to go back. The kind of scarcity that I had before in my previous, in my 21 years of life, that was horrendous scarcity. So knew I didn't want to go back there and I'd do anything to make it work, but I was still the worst salesperson. And I was there for six weeks trying to sell, but I couldn't sell anything. And my boss said, listen, if you don't sell in the next couple of days, you're going to get fired.

So my narrative for the six weeks I was working was, why am I such a bad salesperson? Why am I such a loser? Why is it not working for me? So when he said he's going to get fired, that was a trigger for me to change the narrative internally to, how can I be successful? Because I didn't want to go back to the past.

Well, it seems like there's already been two events just in the story so far that it was. It wasn't until your back was against the wall that something magnificent changed in a different direction. Has that always been the case, or is that something that, you know, just. It's. That's where you kind of discovered your fighter, your inner fighter, I think.

Yeah. What it was. I discovered who I was in extreme adversity. I didn't know who I was in a normal. In a normal kind of comfort zone. I didn't know who I was. Yeah. So, yeah, I was pushed back against the wall. And then I changed the internal question to how can I be successful? Went back to the office the day after, and the top salesperson approached me. Never talked to me before. I said, listen, I know what you're going through. It's really horrible, but I think you've got potential. I think you can do this, and I want to help you. And I said, why you want to help me? You're the top salesperson. And he said, the reason I want to help you is because someone helped me because I was a loser like you. Right? Yeah. And I'm not saying you're a loser, but you know that loser mindset.

Yeah.

So I'm going to help you. I want to give you a book. I want you to go home and read it and don't tell anyone you're reading it. Read it as many times you can till you get the message. So I ran home, five miles, read the book. Woke up the following morning with this new belief inside me. Internally, I shifted.

Yeah.

Because I realized that the only person that's going to change me was me.

Yeah. Yeah. Why do you think people spend so much time. And I'm just asking because I know you and I are passionate about mental health. You and I are passionate about just helping people get unstuck. Now, we do it in a lot of different ways, of course. I mean, you've done it through film, through tv, through Clubhouse. I mean, you've done it through The Instagram lives. I mean, you're constantly serving the public in that area. But it seems like those that remain stuck tend to remain stuck simply because they're always standing in their own way and seems like they're always blaming and shaming outside of themselves rather than looking inward.

Yeah.

So how did that work out for you as you began to not only shape yourself, but also begin to shape other people around you?

Well, I think today's world is very different than when we were kids. Right now, today's world is full of snowflakes comparison.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, you've got parents, Molly Coddling. We see in England, we say Molly coddling their children, taking them to soccer, taking them to this, taking them to that, giving what they want. So it's easy for them to get what they want. So when they go into the workforce and they get, like, adversity, they don't know how to handle it. Yeah. And then they play the victim.

What do you think that's why there's such a. Such a high ranking. I know it's the. I know it's. It's high in the us, I assume it's high in the uk. But you think that's why the rate of those that would claim to be depressed or to struggle with depression is so much higher, because they've never had to face that adversity. Muscle building skill.

I think that's a massive contributing factor. And. And it's really people that. From tough backgrounds, from adverse backgrounds that truly go into the world with a nothing to lose attitude that kind of make it.

Yeah, it's true.

They drop out of university, drop out of school, you know, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, all these kind of people came from those of various backgrounds and they did that. The snowflake generation isn't doing that. They'd rather do a TikTok video and say, you know, this is me and you should make me famous.

Yeah. So it's that search for fame. Fame to find value rather than finding value to discover purpose. So about right.

It is. Because this generation is digital. It's like I have to be like that person on Instagram, otherwise I'm a loser. I have to have a body like that woman and wear that bikini like that. I have to be six pack. I have to have a Ferrari, otherwise I'm a loser. Yeah, Right. And because they can't, they don't know how to do it. They fake it.

Mm.

And then they fake it and then they lose it and then they. Then you get suicide, you get depression, you get mental health problems, you know.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, look, as you were kind of going through the network marketing, not the timeshare world, I know that Radical Shift, that was a pivotal book that that man gave you. And I know he also resonated. You and I have both been homeless before. I think he said, I think in another interview, I think you mentioned he had also shared that same environment. So he saw something in you. I had that same thing with one of my first mentors, Steve Meyer. He saw something in me long before I saw it myself. And I know that part of my calling and your calling is to bring that out of people. And I think that's that pay it forward mentality. And I'm a big believer that, you know, the greatest purpose in life is serving the person you used to be. And you've managed to do that at scale. So at what point did things begin to shift? Because, you know, obviously you stepped up and you, and you served in a very big way. You got knighted as a result of it and then you just kept moving forward. So how did you get from, you know, from, you know, that space of, okay, I'm starting to get an idea who I am, I'm starting to get an idea of my value now. How do I actually step into a place where I can utilize all that information to really scale my life and set myself up to help others scale, scale theirs?

Well, my life wasn't about helping others initially because I was too busy helping myself. Yeah. You know, when that book came and then I became the top salesperson in that company, I was obsessed with success because I'd never had it before.

So failure wasn't an option. I just went out there and did what I did. And then in 97, I got headhunted. Although a lot of companies around the world that wanted me to run their company and I got, I got an offer in Malaysia that I just couldn't turn down. It was an immensely, immensely big offer.

Yeah.

And I went there, took my six month old daughter, my wife, we went there and it was a public company that had 25 hotels, hadn't done timeshare before. My remit was to do the timeshare side of the business. And late 97, the Asian Economic crisis came and George Soros completely destroyed the currency, really region.

Yeah, I remember all about that.

And the company couldn't pay me.

So I'm going back against the wall again. What do I do? Do I go home or do I see if I can make this and turn it around? So I decided to turn it around and innovated the product into a points product where people didn't have to go away for a week, they go away for two days or one day because of that innovation. I made it affordable to the people. And that was a billion dollar company that turned into within three years.

Yeah, it sounds like the basics of it was an Airbnb.

Yeah, it was that if that technology was around then, it wasn't around then. So I did that. And then.

Some bad things happened to me. I had a heart attack when I was 31.

Goodness gracious.

So I collapsed in the office, taken to hospital. It wasn't a serious one. It was recoverable and it was due to stress because it's working 18 hours a day or. I was obsessed with success and other things were sacrificed because of that. And then when I left hospital, I found out my wife was having an affair with my best friend.

Oh, man.

Yeah. I mean, that was more painful than the heart attack because I'd known each of those people for 10 years. It was like a double betrayal. And emotionally, that was. That was very difficult to cope with.

Yeah.

It took me a long time to get over that. And then what happened is I had about 3 million in the stock market and I lost pretty much most of it by making some really bad trades because the company I was working for, we bought options in the company at $3 and they came down to 10 cents. So we were played big time.

Lord have mercy.

All the money we made, we gave it back to them. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

But then I decided that after that those three things happened to me, that I wasn't ever going to have a boss again. I wasn't ever going to let someone control my future. So even though I was struggling, I decided to be an entrepreneur. And I started little consultancy jobs, doing little seminars, and then it got bigger and bigger and bigger, and that became a good thing, a good income for me. And I decided to stay in Malaysia because I love the climate, the people, everyone spoke English, very cheap place to live. So I stayed there till really 20 years. And then in 2000, the biggest mistake I make made was going back to my wife.

Wow. I can't believe that. That's. I'm just dumbfounded.

Yeah, that was a mistake. Because the reason I went back was because of the children, because they didn't, you know, I didn't want them not to have a dad like me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was a tough call because emotionally, I wasn't into that marriage anymore. And I stayed for Six years longer. And it was torture for me to do that, but I did it for the children. My own enjoyment was the children. So in 2008, I left my wife, which was the best day of my life.

Yeah. So everything changed then for me, and it was like a big ten. Some weight had been lifted from my shoulders. And then I was able to do things without asking permission. I was able to take risks without asking permission. In 2008, I didn't have a lot of money. I was working a lot of contracts, but didn't have a great deal of money because I was sending the kids to private school. We had a big house, we had two maids. It was. The cost of living was stupid because she would not compromise that standard of living when I asked her to.

Yeah.

So, you know, one of the memories I have is that we had to go to a smaller house. You have to go from a five bedroom house to a three bedroom house. I remember Hearst in the car outside crying because saying to me, we shouldn't have to do this. We don't. We don't deserve this. This is shouldn't. This shouldn't be happening. I said, well, listen, this is happening, so suck it up. Right?

Yeah. I mean, it seems I've actually seen this several times. I've been working, I've actually worked with a couple before.

Where one of the couple does not want to sell their home. The other couple realizes that it's their only way out of their financial predicament, and they still choose not to sell the house because one party won't stand up and actually, you know, take ownership and say this is the right thing for us to do. Not realizing, you know, you and I have both done this before. Maybe, maybe it's because of our upbringing makes. Because of the things we had to fight through. But I'm okay taking a step back because it's almost like a rubber band. You know, you're taking a step back, you're taking a step back, you're taking a step back, and then there's a pivot point where all of a sudden you let that rubber band go. The next thing you know, that thing's flying across a room and you kind of shoot forward.

Yeah.

Now, is that the same kind of experience you ended up having after kind of forcing your way through that scenario?

Yeah, I think it's just like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean.

Like you pulled and pulled and pulled until eventually you get projected into a new future. So, you know, I'm actually grateful these things happen to me because I don't think I'd be doing the things of doing now.

Oh, there's no doubt.

Yeah. So that's that, that's the way to look at it, isn't it?

Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, so there's, there's so many different facets to you. You're so, you're such an interesting person to not only know, but just research of all the things that you've worked on, you know, one of the, one of the things that I love, one project that you did outside of your best movie that recently came out via Netflix and I found it in the US on Amazon prime, which was awesome, by the way, was.

This need to actually not only do a TV program, but do a TV program and solve a need to give somebody else a place to live. And as I watched the show and I watched all four parts, I was able to find it on YouTube specifically, and I watched all four parts. It was just, I found myself pulling for all three people, all three families. Like, I was like, come on. But then when you started breaking down the rationale of why you chose the person that you ultimately chose to give a house to, well, you, I think you guys refer to as a flat. We call it a house or property. Anyway, I understood it, but I also understood the extra benefits and everybody has to go watch the show to kind of like, I'm not going to give it away. But you managed to take care of everybody in their own, their own unique way. What made you even decide that you wanted to step up and even give a house away?

Well, actually, it wasn't my idea. Channel 4 TV approached me. Mm. And Channel 4 is a government owned TV station. So.

Okay.

You know, when they put a program out like that, they have to make sure that they check you out like you wouldn't believe.

Like you're joining the CIA pretty much.

I mean, crime checks, all that kind of stuff. So they said to me, so listen, we heard about story. We want to make a statement. We want to address the social housing problem in the UK that basically a lot of people cannot afford to buy a house now because it's too expensive. Would you be willing to give a house away and pay the mortgage off for a homeless family to make a statement? There are people out there that do care. And I said, yeah, I'd love to do that. I didn't hesitate.

Now, I didn't hesitate because I truly wanted to make a statement. Also.

Because there are billionaires out there and multi millionaires out there that don't do anything that I'm doing that. That don't want to serve, that don't want to give.

Yeah.

Actually, if you put all the, if you put 10% of the. All the wealth in the world, of all the billionaires, you would solve homelessness and you would solve poverty in literally 24 hours.

And hunger. Yes, and hunger.

Yeah. That's why I wanted to make a statement, because I was not the richest person. I mean, they'd asked billionaires, they wouldn't do it.

Him, you know, Jeez. So I, Yeah, I mean, I went to do it and I thought, well, you know, this is going to be an awesome thing to do because I really wanted to help and I make that statement. So, yes, I agreed to it. And then we made the TV show.

It was a beautiful. I mean, it was beautiful. It really was. Especially as you get to the end where you're, where you're. You know, I just feel, I can actually feel after watching the show a couple of times, just the tug on your heart as you're sitting down with each person telling them whether or not they are getting the house or not getting the house. And then watching their reactions change and watching them, you know, weep out of, you know, not necessarily. I wouldn't call it despair, but, you know, like, almost like this is my only hope to weeping out, oh, my gosh, I can't believe this. And then have you actually shift gears on several of them to say, hey, you're not alone either. We're just going to do something a little different this go around, man. I just. It was a beautiful project. I had to bring it up because I. To your point, there are a lot of people who've been incredibly successful in financial areas. You know, some have done it in real estate, like yourself, movies, like yourself, TVs like your TV shows like yourself. Some have done it in the entrepreneurship space, some have done it, you know, as a result of, hey, I just had a really good investment and it paid off really big. You know, call it the lotto style scenario, but yet so few people actually step up to the plate to really care about helping one another. You know, you and I, a lot of times we will frequent the same rooms on Clubhouse, and you and I've had offline conversations about some of the rooms that we've been in where there's a lot of super successful people in there, but there's not a lot of super successful people necessarily that are stepping up to help other people. Yeah, it's almost like they're still chasing that, that fame piece.

Well, they stop Talking about themselves.

Yeah.

You know, that's why I don't go on Clubhouse that often now.

Yeah.

I only very carefully go into certain rooms that I can be of service and that people actually listen, because a lot of the time, it's just people telling people about their accolades. It's not really helping people, you know?

Yeah. Well, let me go back to beliefs and limiting beliefs, because that's a topic that not only if you live, but it's also something you excel in.

You know, you had your back against the wall in many respects. That gave you a catalyst moment. But since then, you know, you're able to kind of shift your beliefs and kind of where you're heading and what's going to happen. Let's talk to the average person. Maybe. Maybe we're. William, put some of the folks that during the house giveaway kind of in the top of your mind. What was ultimately holding them back from really moving forward? What kind of belief patterns do you see and what types of things do you see that kind of break the new or shape a new belief?

Well, a belief is shaped by a number of factors, and one of them is your environment.

Mm.

And, you know, we talk about environment as who is influencing you when you are a child. Mm. So the first thing about that is called enculturation. Okay. So this is the. The ideas that the philosophies that your parents are bringing onto you as a kid, and they're telling you, well, you know, money doesn't grow on trees.

Work hard, go and get a good job, do well in school, and, you know, you'll be okay. And, you know, if you want something, put your hand up. If not, don't talk back to me. You don't have an opinion. You're a child. Right. So that enculturation and also religion is a massive part of it. So the dogma of religion basically creates the behavior of a person. The document of a parent's behavior is copied by a child. Yeah, Right. And that turns into conditioning so that, you know, the children are. If you come from a poor family, you're conditioned to think in a poor way. Yeah, Right. You conditioned to trade time for money, go and get a job, work all the hours possible to look after your family, because that's what your parents did. You don't know any different. And then when you go into education, that the conditioning is perpetuated in a curriculum which does not serve anybody financially. It doesn't serve anyone positively. All it does is churn out.

A person to memorize facts to do well in an exam. It doesn't promote creativity, entrepreneurship or communication, which is the three things that you need to succeed in life, otherwise you're not going to succeed.

Yeah.

So all of these things contribute to that factor. And the other thing is the way the brain is wired because, you know, our Brains is a 2 million old, 2 million year old instrument that's geared to survive, not thrive.

So, you know, if you believe in evolution, you've got this reptilian brain at the back of your mind, 10 million years old, which is stimulated by food, water, shelter, reproduction. So it's like I ask when I do it, when I do a speech, I say to the audience, if you got fired today, what's the first thing you do?

And the default answer is, look for another job.

Yeah, that's true.

It's not, oh, what I do is I take the time to learn how to start my own business. The default answer, so what people do is they react instinctively because it's survival that people are defaulting to all the time. It's not creativity, it's not abundance.

So it sounds like in order to shape a new belief, you need to bring the subconscious to the conscious and deal with it.

Yeah. You have to understand that when, between the ages of one to seven, children are on a wavelength called theta, and this wavelength is imagination, where they believe that imagination and reality is the same thing. When we get above 7, we start to distinguish reality from imagination. We start to think. Right. The only thing that is real is what we can see.

Yeah.

And so we form these constructs and beliefs of what we see around as we copy things around us. And that's what forms a belief and it forms a deep groove and, you know, a synapse in the mind where that's the way to do things. It forms a habit. Habit loop.

Yeah.

So if something bad happens, that's the habit we use. So to break those habit loops, we have to consciously. Look, we have to consciously focus on what we want and then reverse engineer how to do it. But to do that, you've got to believe it.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know a book, I mean, a book was a huge part of your catalyst. What are types of, what are other types of things can people use on a consultation basis to, for lack of a better word, rewire their brain? Because that's essentially what they're doing. They're choosing to say, I'm not going to live by this instinct anymore.

It's education, full stop.

Okay.

And it's, it's basically see a lot of people when they leave school, don't want to be educated anymore. The fed up with 25 years of education, they go, no, I don't want to, don't want to learn anymore, man. I'm sick of learning.

Yeah, but what, because they're sitting in a chair all day long.

Yeah.

Being talked to, you know, and I think even neuro linguistics, there's been all kinds of studies that show when the body's in movement, when there's mobility, the mind picks up signals clearer and more consistently than sitting in a chair and have somebody talk at you all day.

Yeah, I don't. You know, I hated school. I didn't learn a thing.

Yeah.

Because I didn't want to learn it. It wasn't the right way that I would. I wasn't interested in the subject matter because I knew, I knew from a very early age that learning Pythagoras and the medieval history of England wasn't going to serve me. Yeah, I knew that really quickly. So I'm thinking, how's that going to help me make money?

What's interesting, it's interesting that school teaches us essentially and this, it doesn't matter what country in, from what I can tell, it's the same. It's the same. It's, you know, you're, you're learning, okay, you're learning history, okay, you need to understand bare bones history. But then you're learning complex ways of basically preparing for a test. But you're not learning how to balance a checkbook. You're not learning how to look for quality relationships. You're not looking, you're not learning how to create an evidence based level of self awareness. You're not learning how to shape your identity. You're not learning how to discover your true purpose. Like all the things that really matter in life. I've always said there are three great questions. Who am I, why am I here and what do I do about it? Right. None of those questions are at least and from my experience has ever been, have never been answered in school. They've always been answered by experience, albeit like you and I have both understood painful experiences to really kind of help us understand how life really works.

Yeah. And the thing is, Stephen, very few people know what they want to do in life. So they don't apply themselves because believe they can do it. And you know, if we look at the statistics from the United States Welfare Department, statistics of people that retire at 65 out of every 100 people, one is financially free.

Yeah, it's true.

Four, four are still working because they have to. 36 people are dead.

Yeah, she's man, they finish work at.

65, they go and have a heart attack. Oh my gosh, 59 are dead broke.

Yeah.

They're relying on welfare, credit card debt, loans, handouts.

Yeah. And all of that's preconditioned. Get it now, pay for it later. Oh, you can afford the monthly payment. That is until you lose your job or economy shifts or markets tank or market shift. And I, you know, I was, I was talking to a group of Marines today at an earlier speech I did, I guess you call it speech, um, where I was saying, look, here, here's a simple process of what I've used to break free from all the garbage that I've been through. You know, it's a concept I teach called the traditional lifestyle versus a transformational lifestyle. And it's all based on, are you focused on living yesterday's life today or are you focused on trying to discover and create a new life for tomorrow? Like, what are you doing? Yeah, you know, because where you're focusing at determines on whether or not you get to stay in those, those statistics. You know, in the United States, the statistic is 67% of all Americans would say they're unfulfilled, unhappy, depression, anxiety, fear, lonely, isolated. And so many of them are simply applying the wrong, the effort in the wrong way. They're in jobs that they shouldn't be working in because they were told, you know, I got my degree, so I'm gonna go do this. Not realizing they should be, they should be one of a Picasso or you know, a world leading painter or in the entertainment industry, like, or any number of things. So what can you and I do to help people actually break free and actually get them onto a passion, purpose, driven life? What can we do to help them?

Well, I think we are doing that. And you know, you know, what I do every day is I basically broadcast and post from a position of inspiration saying that if a school dropout like me can do it, yep, you can do it.

Ain't that the truth? Everybody thinks it has to be so complex, you know, transformation, making your life work for you.

The most basic of principles produce the most profound promises. Right. Don't spend more than you make. Hello, financial 101.

Yeah.

Don't let somebody describe or take advantage of you by, by telling you what your value is. Discover your value. Right. Make sure, like you and I both learned the hard way that you're married to the right person. Yes. Right ahead of time. Like do A lot of due diligence ahead of time.

Well, yeah, I mean, I was 25 and I didn't what the hell I was doing, man.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, and I think there's a lot of young people that get married really early because they've been taught that that is part of. If they get this thing, it's ultimately going to lead them to being happy and fulfilled. Not realizing that if you don't know who the hell you are, it's going to be impossible for you to be a great partner to somebody else. And vice versa.

Well, yeah. Marriage is a construct developed by man. Right. And, you know, people are afraid that if they don't get married under 30, they're a loser. That's the mindset, especially women.

Well, it's because. It's because that's what's told to us on a consistent basis. I mean, you're in the film industry, in the TV industry. Right. You know that media influences a great deal the world environment, some in a very good way and some in a very negative way.

Well, yeah. And who owns the media? Exactly. So the media is owned by six conglomerates that are the richest white men in the world, that control every piece of information that gets to you, including, and especially what's happening with coronavirus.

Because there is absolutely no alternate dissenting voice on any platform that says coronavirus is not what you think it is.

Yeah.

You know, and that is unprecedented in the history of the world. No one is allowed to have a different opinion than what's given out in the media.

Yeah, well, hopefully. Hopefully, you know, shadow voices like ours can make a small difference here or there. You know, I find that most people. And I know you've. You and I both share this, Most were walking around like sleepwalking. And I just want to go to some people sometimes and just say, wake up.

Yeah. They don't want to because they're. They're in so much fear. It's like they die at 25, get buried at 75.

Geez.

You know?

Yeah.

So much fear. Because if they become entrepreneur is like a dirty word. Sales is a dirty word. Oh, that's for losers. You know, they've got a great job, They're a valuable member of society, they'll be respected. Validated next door. BMW, that's getting the same car, you know.

Yeah. I would argue that a successful entrepreneur is the very person that creates those jobs.

Well, entrepreneurs do create jobs. Governments don't create jobs, they tax them.

Yeah, that's very true. And that's the same in both of. Both of our countries. There's quite a bit of taxation. I'm personally taxed almost half my income at this stage in the game. And unfortunately, it looks like it might get a little worse in the near future, which kind of sucks.

But, yeah, it looks like by the State of the Union, what his speech was 100 days of office. The wealthy are going to pay more tax, bro.

Well, and so let's talk a little about that because, you know, you and I both have been given the opportunity. I said given. We have earned, had to work hard to have the ability to steward various levels of wealth. Okay.

The argument goes to the. Those that have created wealth are evil.

And those who are struggling are righteous.

Yeah.

Here's where I struggle with all of that. Of all the businesses that I own, all of them give back to my team, to the community, to the economy. I work even now, today, probably 12 to 13 hours a day. It's so much ingrained in who I am that I will work consistently, building, creating, doing something new, pivoting, refining, exploring, you know, going through that entire process. And I had this interesting epiphany probably a month ago, and it kind of hurt my heart a little bit when I had it. And that was in. At the rate in which taxes are increasing, at least in my country, for me specifically. Now, nothing's been officially brought into law, but all indications are we're heading that way. I have to ask myself, why am I working so hard? Why am I missing time with my family, with my wife? Why am I. Why am I not with them if everything that I do is going to be taxed at such a level that it's going to cause me to struggle myself.

Right. Why am. You know, so I say that because I would. I would dare say that most entrepreneurs are going to feel like.

That they shouldn't try or work or produce as much as they do because there's a penalty, essentially, if you produce more.

Now, it's called austerity measures.

Yeah. I mean, the reality is there are some bad entrepreneurs, meaning there are entrepreneurs out there that don't take care of people, don't give back to the community. We talked a little bit about that earlier. Billionaires that aren't feeding people and, you know, and all of that could be, you know, I'm a big believer in creating a legacy that outlives you. And the only way you do that is to make a large enough impact in the lives of other people that they still Remember your name 20 years after you're Dead on a consistent basis. You know? So as we look at the economy, we look at the world, we look at how things are shaping up. I think the only reason, like, for people like myself and you to kind of keep moving forward is because there are so many people who are asleep.

And we're hoping that conversations like this or Clubhouse or Instagram Live or any of the things that we do together will just waken them up, like, believe more, do more.

Because then that's what happens. That's why people like us exist, because we do do that. We do have an effect. We do have an impact on people that are getting closer to saying, you know what? I don't want to do this anymore. What Marco and Steven are saying is, right, let's join them. Let's get some education. Don't want to leave the job yet because we never say that.

Yep.

Let's get some awareness. Let's wake up. We do as much as we can with our platforms.

Yeah, absolutely.

And sometimes, most of the time, you're not going to reach those people because they're not receiving your message because they don't want to. Because they feel that if they receive your message is going to threaten their existing status quo.

Yeah. Which is crazy, because actually, it sets them free. Yeah, it sets them free. Well, here's my proverbial cheers glass. Here's the setting people free.

Best, my friend.

Right.

Yes.

Look, I want to pivot a little bit. We kind of went hard and deep there for a second, but I think people need to understand that there is a better life ahead of them, and they need to focus on getting there.

Yeah.

I do want to talk about Legacy of Lies for just a minute. Right. That movie has done incredibly well. I thoroughly enjoyed it myself. How did you become a part of the movie, you know? What made you decide to be involved in it? All that good stuff?

Well, I greenlit the whole movie. It was my thing. And I wanted to make a movie for so many years. And seven years ago, I said, right, I want to. I want to do this right now. So I had some money. I found. I've been talking to someone on Facebook for a few years, a woman who was a director, filmmaker. We wrote a script. I gave her 25 grand. She disappeared. Oh.

So that was my first experience where.

Your life sounds like mine.

Strike one, baby. Okay. Yeah. Then I met someone in that experience called Victor Soleil, a Spanish actor who knew a guy called Adrian Ball who ended up being the director of Legacy Lies. I said, listen. Victor said, listen, I know we've been burned. Let's just meet Adrian. He's a great guy. So I went to Holland to meet Adrian, and he was an established director on MTV music videos, got tons of awards, and he wanted to make a film as well, his first feature film. So we had something in common, right? And we spent a long time getting to know each other, and eventually we started making this film. Now, the original film was nothing to do with legacy lies. It was actually based on a true story called Truth 99, of how the Russians bombed a building in Kiev and killed 300 families because the director's wife was a Ukrainian.

Oh, wow.

So there was a very meaningful thing there. Now, I didn't know the full extent to that. So we started doing the PR for this film was going really well. And then Adrian telephoned me one night and said, listen, Marco, are you sitting down? I said, why? He said, you need to sit down right now because what I'm about to tell you, you're not going to believe it, but it's true. So I sat down, says, right, what's up? He said, your Facebook, your Instagram, your face is all over Russian national news tv.

They're saying that you're crazy for making this film and you're going against Putin, and if you're not careful, you're going to lose your life.

100 million people in Russia, right, were watching this news channel. I didn't believe it. So I got the newsreel sent to me and translated, and it was true, and even circled my comments about the film on all my Instagram and stuff like that. This was the very first time I've been scared in my life.

Yeah, I bet.

Now, at the same time, this was going on for. In fact, it's about six months previously, this beautiful Russian woman was chatting to me on my Instagram. And one day she said, can I come and see you now? I didn't think they were connected at all. I said, yeah, sure, come and see me. So she came to stay with me after three days in bed, right?

She said to me. She said to me one morning, marco, I don't think you should make that film.

Marco, you didn't see that coming, dude.

Didn't see it coming, mate. And I said, why? Why would you say that? She said, because I'm not who I said it was. I'm actually Russian fsb.

I've been. We've been spying on you for the last year, and your phone's attacked. Your office is tapped, you hope your personal line is tapped. We know what you're doing. And if you make that film, your life is in danger. And I sell weapons all over the world. My best selling weapon is cyanide.

So talk about reality is more interesting than fiction, right?

Mm.

And when she said this, I was. These words were landing on me with disbelief. But she showed me the pictures. Then I found out the phones were tapped and it was true.

And they shared this with my family. My kids said, dad, don't make that film. That's crazy, man. You have got to not do that.

Yeah.

So we stopped the project. 50 grand gone. Stop the project. Strike two.

So anyway, six months went by with nothing, and me, Adrian said, let's just make a fictional thriller.

Mm. So we wrote, starting with a guy who has a Russian agent blend up in his bed.

Starting with a bit of a history. Right?

Yeah.

But you know what? When she said that to me, I wasn't actually scared. When I said. I said to her, said, listen, if you want to kill me, just. Just. Just kill me. I don't care. I've had a great life. You know what? Just do it. Okay.

So anyway, we wrote another film, Legacy lice. I got 12 grand. Together, we made a trailer. We submitted it to the Ukraine Film foundation, and we won a $1 million grant to make the film.

Look at you. That's awesome. I'm like, oh, my God.

I couldn't believe. I was like, wow. Right. But there was a condition. The condition was we couldn't access all of that money until we got a lead actor of influence that could take the film internationally and de risk the whole project. Yeah, because I was going to be the lead actor, but of course, no one knew me.

Yeah.

So we then started looking for lead actors like Bruce Willis, Schwarzenegger, Stallone, all the big names. The cheapest were 10 million, and they were busy for five years. So if you didn't. Even if you had the money, you couldn't get them for five years anyway.

Yeah.

Right. So two years went by that the fund was going to expire, and eventually we found a guy called Scott Adkins who dropped out another film, said he loved the script. We had to find £100,000 to put in escrow before you make the film to pay the actor, because that's how it works. And Scott's arguably. Now, Scott's arguably pretty much the best action hero, martial arts actor in the world currently.

Yeah.

Right. So he signed on, we got the money, and we started. We started basically making the film in May 2019. And we got halfway into making the film. We Ran out of money.

So we said, what we're going to do now? So at that time, Cannes Film Festival was on, so we knew quite a few people. So we borrowed a friend of a friend's yacht, we flew to Cannes, we made a new trailer, we cut a new trailer. We invited all these executives on the board the yachts, and we sold six regions around the world for $300,000 each. Pre sale. We walked off that boat with $2 million.

Yeah. We went back to Kiev, finished the film.

I'm so glad I asked about this. I love this story. It's funny. Every time you get your back against the wall, good things happen.

Yeah. I have to do this more often, Right.

We finished the film and then they did the editing. In January 2020, we have 10,000 cinemas signed up. Whoa.

We raised 5 million.

Yeah. And then Covid.

And then Covid came. We couldn't put it in the cinema.

So we went to Amazon prime in the States in July. And then February, Netflix bought the rights for the UK and Ireland, and it transferred number four for six weeks.

Yeah. It's a great film. I mean, it's. I mean, it's funny, you know, with. With this whole. All the COVID stuff. I don't know if you've experienced that, but at least over here, you know, I. One of the rooms in my. One of my most favorite rooms in my house is my movie room, my movie theater. I have a small movie theater room. And I. That's how I unwind, is I watch movies. And, you know, gosh, up until about two or three months ago, there was no, you know, there was no movies to watch. Nobody had really created anything. The stuff that you were watching was created, you know, three and five and six years earlier.

Yeah.

You know, and I just remember I sat down, turned it on because, you know, because I did it because I love you to death. And I was like, I'm gonna check out his movie, man. And did. And sat there and enjoyed the whole thing, man. It was great. Got. Got to watch you whip some butt for a few minutes and also get your butt whooped a couple times. But, you know, it was good stuff.

Yeah. So that's the coolest thing I've ever done and the hardest thing I've ever done.

Yeah.

So it wasn't an actor. Wasn't. I didn't know the film industry, and boy, did I learn.

Yeah.

Because it's shrouded in secrecy. It's a very close shop. And if you don't have a lot of resilience, you never get in there.

Yeah.

So. Yeah. And that was. I ran through 100 brick walls to make that film, but it's the best thing I ever did.

It's amazing, dude. Well, tell me this. What's next for Sir Marco Robinson? What are you working on now?

Well, I've been working hard on getting financing in place to make more movies.

Okay.

So now I found a way to fund 90% of a 5 million to $20 million film.

All right.

Even after this part, this part, this interview, now we're having. I've got a call with a guy in Hollywood. He was a Marvel director who's got five films. So that's my main focus. And also I have an online business which is making loads of money.

Awesome.

That I started in January. It's called the Online Success Formula, where I teach people how to start their own online business. So that's going really well, and that's helping me do the film as well.

Love it, dude. Well, look, man, I know we're a little bit over on time, but I couldn't help it. I love hanging out with you. And I had you all myself. I had you all to myself for a few minutes. So I was going to. I was going to give you as many. As much as I possibly could to learn more. As much as I could, man.

Well, it's great to hang out with you, Steven. I think, like you say, we. We've got a lot in common and think we're going to be great friends because of that, so.

Of course. Of course. Well, look, how can everybody else find you? Where should they look you up at?

Just go to my Instagram. That's where I am most of the time. Marco Robinson now is my Instagram. Send me a dm, say hello. Don't be shy.

Which he does reply to, by the way. I tested that theory, just for the record.

Love it, man. Thank you so much for coming on. It was such a joy to hang out with you and learn more about your story and all the different things you learned. Stay away from the Russian sleeper agents if you can, and stay healthy.

Yeah.

We'll have to see you again soon.

Thank you, Stephen. All the best.

Much love.

And we're out. We're out. That was fun, dude.

Love. Okay, buddy.

Yeah, man. It was fun. Did you have a good time?

Yeah. The time flies. The time flies when I'm talking to you.

Likewise. Likewise. I think. And I just think it's because you. You know when somebody else's soul resonates with somebody else's soul because They've suffered similar circumstances and found a way to kind of break through. I mean, you know, my whole hope and aspirations for what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to find those people and just say it's okay, come on, come this way kind of scenario. And I know you're doing the same thing in different ways and even in some cases the same ways. So.

So what are you up to now, Steve? What's your main project?

Main project is my live event. I got a live event coming in October. Got 10 speakers along with myself. Three day live event. Had a bunch of meetings today on the technology. I just got through dropping a quarter of a million dollars on upgrading our set because I own a lot. I'm actually in a live event center. I own a 27,000 square foot facility and it seats like 4, 400, 450, something like that. And then I'm currently building out the set that basically mimics or rivals what Tony's built, Tony Robbins has built essentially so that.

Exactly. And it's going to be. We're hoping to have about 2,000 people virtually and a few hundred people here live. North Carolina is opened up to the point of about 40% capacity. But if you know, the rumor is by June 1st we'll be back open to 100% capacity. As long as people are wearing masks.

Yes.

I'm hoping by the time we get to October.

So it's like a mastermind or is it three days?

It's called Transform you Live. Actually this event is called Transform youm Virtual Plus. I haven't launched it to the public yet. It'll go, we go into pre launch in June and then we'll go into full fledged launch mode towards the end of July. And you'll start seeing all the data behind it. Tom Bilyeu, Evan Carmichael, Anthony Trucks, Lisa Bilyeux, Mel Abraham, Amberly Lago, a lot of the folks, you've seen me in rooms.

My name's on the roster, bro.

Hey man, you can check it out. Come check it out.

Why am I not a speaker at your event?

Well, I don't know why exactly.

Other than that.

We just met each other late, I guess. I don't know. But no, I mean, yeah, it's a possibility. I might have one more spot. I'm waiting to see if somebody's going to do a 90 minute segment or if you're gonna do a 45 minute segment. So as soon as I know more about that, I'll know if I got any openings. If I do, I'LL shoot you. Shoot you a message.

Let me know. I'd be interested to do that.

Okay. You'd have to come here.

That's okay.

Can you get out of the uk?

I can. Yeah. We're allowed to leave in June.

Okay.

All right, then you can. You can leave now. Just have what you have to have, something called a declaration to work.

Okay.

Work project. I can get on play.

I did not know that.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, you just send me a letter from your company.

Yeah.

And I can. I can come.

All right, cool. What. What subject would. Like what. What. What life subject would you want to cover?

That would depend.

One keynote. What would it be?

I think resilience.

Okay.

Yeah. I mean, well, that's up to you, because your event.

I know, but I always like to hear what other. You know, what. What's on your heart. Does that make sense?

Yeah, I think resilience and adversity, especially during. Because of COVID and stuff like that. Yeah. A lot of people have lost everything, so I think that would be a great subject.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. All right, man, well, I'll double check the schedule, see and see what shakes out. I should know more about next week.

Sound good?

Sounds good, bro.

All right, man. Well, good luck with your next meeting, man. Raise some money, make a movie. Let's do it.

You want to make. Yeah, you want to make a movie, right?

If I can ever get my money together. Yeah, for sure. If I can never get my ducks on the row.

So, yeah, I mean, I've got financing in place now. Because yours was more of a personal life story, wasn't it? Something.

Yeah, it was gonna be my life story. At least that was the original idea. I've had people, you know, I wrote a book about it several years ago, my first book, and it did pretty well. But the more and more I started engage with people, the more and more people are like, dang, dang. Because I got stories for days, you know, And I tell the stories in a pretty vivid way. But one of the things that I was flirting with the idea, and the idea actually came up while I was watching the last episode of your home giveaway thing today when I was on the way back from Jacksonville was Maybe I take $10,000 and I set it to the side and then maybe.

Create something. I've kind of forwarded with the idea of calling it angel vesting or angel vester or something like that. Some kind of idea where it's that heartfelt story where you're going into somebody's home, you got somebody who's working really hard. They've got a great idea. It's not the Shark Tank pitch kind of scenario. It's more like. Like, I want to help you because I like you. Or, you know, that kind of heartfelt.

The angel has landed or something like that.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, and take five or six people and then, you know, kind of do like you. You kind of did with that show is like one. One person gets, you know, a $10,000 seat. Everybody else might get a thousand that they don't know exist or something like that to kind of get their journey going, you know? And I just. I like. I like those types of shows. I got a. Was it the Screen Actors Guild? I forgot where you have to register a show.

I've registered three shows wga.

Yeah.

Yeah, America it is.

Yeah. There's a. There's a show that I was looking at doing called the Seed Planner, which is me going in and working with somebody one on one. Kind of like bigger Biggest Loser style, so to speak. But also because I own a large construction company that does exterior work. While I'm working on them, my team is working on their house.

I get it.

So it's like Biggest Loser meets Extreme Makeover somehow. So I flirted with that idea. And I always. I think I almost like those projects more than my. My bio and backstory, and that my bio and backstory might be a project five years from now after there's, you know, let multiple levels of platform and growth and success, so to speak. So all of those are my advice.

To you, is because I've done this, is keep it really simple.

Yeah.

Keep the concept ultra simple.

Okay.

But, you know, taking someone who's down on the look and giving them some seed money to start a business and you coaching them is something that's really cool.

Yeah, I would. I'd love to do that. And, you know, I could.

The Shark Tank, you only see them giving the money. You don't see them what they do with the money. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly.

That would be kind of cool.

Maybe, like, there's the first three or four episodes we're selecting candidates, and the next six or seven episodes, we're following. We're following them with cameras to see how they're doing. And maybe I'm meeting with each. Each one of them once a week or something like that.

Like the Apprentice, but slightly different, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're not really competing against you. They're competing against themselves.

Correct. That's the difference.

Yeah, I like that. Well, we just. We just come up a new idea.

Yeah. I mean you could call it Born to Succeed.

Yeah.

Could do that. Definitely. I kind of like the word unlock or like some kind of play on words where it's like they don't know what they have in them. They don't know the kind of gift that they have in them. And start. We're kind of pulling it out and. But I don't know. I'm gonna think on that a little bit. What would it take to put a trailer like that together? 20 grand?

Yeah, about that.

Okay. Yeah. I mean you. For that kind of thing, you need to put a pilot together because you'd have to have the whole concept in one. You'd have to do one episode.

Okay.

To do that properly. Then you're looking at six figures. But it's worth it.

Yeah. Why do for.

Yeah.

Know for a fact that a treatment doesn't get it done anymore. You can't just do a treatment and have somebody pick it up. So.

Doesn't work, especially on shows like that because you've got to have a proof of concept. These are fan based, triggered, to be honest. Steve.

Which means people have to like me or all the other people that are, you know, engaging. And if they don't like me, the show won't do very well.

Make one episode and you put it on YouTube and get shitload of fan base. You promote the crap out of it and then you go to the networks.

It's not a bad idea.

It's gonna. Networks want to de risk everything. They don't want to take a lot these days.

It'll be October before I can get my head above water because the. Just pulling off this live event, it's a major undertaking.

I know, mate. I know.

Yeah. If I can do. If I can get my. If I get in the beginning of next year and have a lot of platform growth this year, it's something that I've already. I've talked to some of our camera guys before because I have. I have a ton of camera equipment myself. Sliders and robotic stuff and all kinds of stuff.

Just. Right. Just set the goal, mate. Be very clear. Go. You know what to do. Okay, let's.

Let's keep brainstorming on that. I like that. I like the idea that of a show like that and then doing the bio like years later maybe before I die.

So it's definitely got legs made because there's definitely missing that shark tank. What happens to that person after they get the money or. Yeah, because a lot of people go in that show, don't get the money, then succeed.

Yeah, it's true. That's true. Very true. Many people, actually. And there's been people that have gotten deals that haven't succeeded.

Yes, correct.

So.

Huh.

Well, cool, man. I'm gonna go ahead and run, but maybe we can do another call in a couple weeks. Yeah, we'll talk about show stuff. Sound good?

Sounds good, mate. All right, dude.

We'll go get some money, man.

Okay, buddy. You too, mate. Take care, Steven. Bye. Bye.

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