Stephen Scoggins - From Homelessness to Nine-Figure Success

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To the Win Make Give podcast, it's Chad Iims here, Ben Kinney somewhere and Bob Stewart. You. I know where you are. How are you doing today, Bob?

We're rope that guy back into this thing. One day.

One day we will. We will tie him to a chair and make him record so we can hear what's going on. Forget him.

He tricked us like two years. I think he. Those were the COVID years though I guess here in Washington state you couldn't go anywhere, do anything. So he was like, you guys come hang out with me. I think he. Yeah, he got us good.

Yeah, I think he did. And, and we're still going. And we're still going for you audience. Hey, check out winmake give.com. you can find out all the shows we have. Bob, I know these episodes don't drop like the day after we record them yet. A huge shout out to one of Windmake Give's own and that's Brian Gubernick. Yeah, he did with his TEDx talk that he just did, folks. Check it out. Go to the website, we have links there. Go. Just search for Brian Gubernick, TED Talk.

Chad. I saw Brian give that a similar talk I don't know, a year and a half ago at Windmake Give. And I. You like his. That talk and just like kind of the vision of him on stage giving it. It's comes into my thinking when I'm sitting sometimes when I'm here at home and the boys come up and they're like, dad, can we go outside, play basketball or whatever? And I want, I'm tired. I want to be like, no, like you guys go, right? I'll just, I'll open the window. Let's put the window or whatever. And his, his like reminder that I don't have that much time with my boys, right.

It.

It drives me to get my ass off the couch. Yeah, it's. It's an excellent, excellent discussion.

Absolutely. We're going to have an excellent discussion today.

Can I tell you something? And I'm admitting this to him. I'm admitting this to him. I kind of mentioned it to you earlier.

I book the episodes. Yeah.

So you. Stephen knows this because he's on a podcast tour right now. Right. And when you get big enough, they bring you on the tour, you come, you sit in the studio and we're not good looking enough Chad to put us on camera.

Speak for yourself.

Speak for yourself.

I'm not good looking enough to be on camera. That's why we made this decision but so we have people that reach out to us now. The Win make podcast. I got to a point where more than just your mom and I or my mom and your mom listen, right? We got a couple aunts, I think, that are now listening. So people reach out to us and say, hey, we've got guests. And sometimes when I see, like, the business coach, the motivational guy, I'm like, I don't know. Here we go, right? So, Stephen, I'm just telling you, man, that was what my thinking was last night. I was literally like, chad, I'm gonna make Chad do this one. I want these things. But I went and listened to. I. I pulled up your Instagram this morning, Stephen, because I'm like, all right, let me just. Let me see what we can ask this guy about. And now I'm like, let's go.

I want to talk to this guy.

Like, he's. He's actually good.

Well, then, Bob Stewart, quiet down. Okay, so we can welcome to the Win Make Give podcast, our guest today, Steven Scoggins. Stephen, thank you for joining us.

What's up, guys? Dude, I'm having. So excited to see you guys. And also, I'm really excited to know that I made the cut, but I'm not just another boring business.

You were over the bar already. You were in.

It's just when I accept you, you've made the cut. Because I get a lot of requests guess and I'm picky as to which ones I'll accept. Then you made the secondary cut, which is Bob actually showed up right there. Plenty of guests that Bob doesn't always make it for. I'm sure scheduling now. I've just learned it's because he doesn't want to be there for the interview.

No offense to any of our guests, by the way, Chad, that I have not showed up for now, I feel like an okay.

Yeah, well, that's okay. That's what we love doing here at. We may give.

Stephen, we.

We've had three whole minutes to speak with you before the episode began. Other than the research that. That we have done on you yet, our audience might be like, who. What? What are you talking about, Guys? We won't read your bio. We don't do it. Introduce yourself to our audience. Let them know who you are and however you want to do that.

Oh, man. I am just a humble servant at this stage of the game. I. I think I'm most notably known for. And this is the. This is where the. The accolades, I think, are more along the lines of a waste of time, to be honest with you. But most notable, from going from homelessness to building a nine figure company and then exiting it in 2023, what I discovered along the way is major constraints, major adversity, how to go through that, how to deal with it, how to overcome it. And once you go through such a transformational thing, the first thing you do is you decide you want to do that for other people. And while I could be doing different things with my life and focused on just making money and stuff, that stuff doesn't light me up. What lights me? Transformation, other people. My first mentor told me a long time ago, he said, you have to be willing to do today what others won't, and you can have tomorrow what others don't. And so what I'm choosing to do now with my time and energy is I'm choosing to show up for people who hopefully can get something from my story, my experiences, frameworks, anything that I can offer to help them level up. Because I remember being in very dark spaces, in very painful spaces. And that's one of the things that I've learned a long time ago is you should never despise a small beginning or a painful transition, because on the other side of that is something meaningful. So that's what I'm here to do and here to help. And so you guys are more than welcome to hit me with anything. I just want to serve.

And we will, Bob. I want to. I want to just. Our audience doesn't see, right? We've talked about this many, many times. We use video so we can see each other. They just get to hear our lovely voices. I just want you to be clear, right? Here's a gentleman who wants to serve, who wants to help people become the best they can possibly be, who wants to share his experiences that have helped him be able to grow so can follow in his footsteps. He was wearing blue, he's bald. Oh, wait, I mean him, not me.

You guys see how we both match.

See why he's here? Bob, this was a conversation with myself today.

I put my glasses on. We're really look at it.

We have outnumbered you, Bob. All right, Bob, I usually give you first question.

Can we go back to, like, the homeless? You were homeless at one point. And look, I, if, if, if somebody's out there listening and they've never been in a position where one their one bad decision away from being homeless. Like, I was never homeless, Stephen. There was multiple times in my 20s and early 30s where I was probably one bad decision away from being homeless, right can you just talk for a second about being. And I don't know that you'd say you were at rock bottom, but can you talk about being in that spot? And how did you, how did you find it inside of yourself to like take the first step to change that situation?

Yeah. So it's interesting because a lot of folks, there's a variety of different reasons why people might end up in a homeless situation. There's mental illness, there's substance abuse, there's just a, as you said, one bad decision away. I was one bad decision away and I'm the one that made the decision. So I would say that I became homeless due to pride and arrogance. As someone who dropped out of high school at a very early age to help their family pay the bills, I got a chance to make a lot of money really fast. Around 18 and a half years old, maybe not close to 19. God put me in business for myself. I made a bunch of money super fast. Never trained how to use it, had always known lack, didn't have a proper mindset, skill set. I call it a spirit set nowadays. And the reality was is, you know, like anybody else, when you're putting that position, you're, you know, you're making well over six figures as an 18 year old kid and we're talking late 90s, you know, so 600 grand a year is big money, right? You do what everybody else does. When you're searching for your identity and you're searching for your self worth, you go and try to prove it by showing off and being dumb, which is pretty much what I did. And then as a person there's a.

Reason, like I would, I joke all the time with my friends. I'm like, if I, if I would have made it to the NBA and I'm 20 years old, they give me, however, I'm dead. Like I would have been dead.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean the reality is like people want this big blessing, but more times than not our character is not strong enough to steward it. And you know, I'm very fortunate to be in a position now to have lived a life that taught me a lot of lessons. 99% of them were through very painful transformations. I'm a very stubborn individual by nature, so I like to say that Divine like to hit me pretty hard with a 4x4 upside the head. But I was also very fortunate. I had my dad's employer became my first mentor. He was a multi millionaire home builder in the Raleigh, North Carolina area and build homes and you know, from the age of around 11 years old. All the way through my teenage years, he would pull me off my dad's framing crew and speak life into me. And what I didn't know at the time, my dad said this when he lost his business one time. He said, hey, Scotts don't get ahead, they get by. And I didn't realize how much of that life lie. I believed in that moment until Steve showed up, old man Marek. And he, he asked me two questions. He said one day in this one of his Jeep Grand Cherokee moments, he pulls me down, puts me in the grand carry key and says, hey, I got a couple of questions for you. I'm like, dude, you know, I'm enjoying the AC because it's hot outside and everything else. And he says, what do you think the difference between a rich man and a poor man is? And I was like, it's money. Of course it's money. And he's like, absolutely not. It's the way they think. Now I have a more important question for you. He said, do you want to learn to think like me or do you want to continue thinking like your father?

So I say that statement because that happened about four years before the homeless journey. So he had been trying to sow seeds into me for years. And you would think that they would go in one ear and out the other. What was really happening is they were going in, getting stuck and just kind of getting to my soul and sitting still. And you know, after about six months or so of, of that homeless environment, fortunately, you know, the year prior I'd made a bunch of money.

Got humbled, was arrogant again. I just blew all the money. I mean, that's the end of the story. Met a girl, you know, rest is history. Met a girl. That's all I need to say. Met a girl, right? And you know, the reality was, is I was at a World gym in the Raleigh area and you know, looked up, that's where I was taking showers and stuff. I looked up, caught my eyes, I'm like, dude, what the hell are you doing? Like, what are you doing? Like, you, you were literally just getting mentored and coached by a multimillionaire for the last like five years. And here it is. You, you can't even like, you know, really scrub two nickels together. And it was just something about that moment where I began to be radically self aware and radically honest. And so if you're one bad decision away from entering a homeless journey or having something foolish happen in your life, you're also one moment of Radical honesty away from transforming your entire life.

What was the lie you were yourself like as you looked in that mirror and decided to become honest? What was the lie you had been saying to yourself?

Yeah, well, I mean, again, it goes back to that. That statement that my father and Steve talked about. He's like, you know, and I had to kind of ask myself, I was like, am I thinking like my father now? My father was a good man. He worked really hard. He was not really good with money. He struggled with alcoholism off and on his entire life until about 30 years ago, and he finally became sober. He's an excellent grandfather and father now. So he had to go on his own journey, which I'm like, super excited about. But, you know, the reality was, is in that moment, he would borrow, not repay. He was teaching me wealth was evil and wealth is not evil. What you do with wealth can be evil or good. Right? He just. Just the whole entire belief system around scarcity. I even discovered after about four. There's about 480 years of Skagen's history, I was able to transfer Back to the Ancestry.com DNA rabbit hole and discovered that I was in my bloodline. The first that actually took on the potential of trying to break generational. You can call it curse, we can call it whatever, but generational poverty. My family historically would work really hard, earn, you know, earn a wage, and then spend the wage as quickly as they could get to it. Where Steve taught me, he's like, every time you earn a dollar, you can compound that dollar into 10. So he taught me compounding. He taught me how to leverage my mind to think differently. He taught me a process called if this, then that. So in business, it's like, if this happen, that should happen, and if. But if that happens, it's not what you want. You need to go back to if this and say, okay, what happened at the if? Right? So he taught me how to unpack and become a bit more of an intentional, strategical, aligned thinker. And then over the Norse, the course of the next 30 plus years, what I've discovered is almost every single dumb decision I've ever made in business, including the homeless journey, was at a moment of what's called as emotional dysregulation. I was impulse control, poor impulse control, Just acting, just reacting, just acting. And what I've done now is I've learned to get centered and grounded and aligned. And what happens is now I make decisions from a calm.

Regulated place. And that alone allowed me to go from 7 to 9 in the business endeavors. But more importantly, it's allowed me to have very true relationships. Because the reality is, I'm not all that in a bag of chips. I'm full of issues and flaws that I've been working on for my entire life. And I'm like any other human. I just. I just decided to work, get started a little earlier. So in some cases, I might be a little further ahead than some and. And still not as far ahead as others. So that's kind of the journey with the homeless.

All right, I've got. I'm at a fork in the road here.

Okay. Right.

We can either go left or we can go right. And I'm going to let you choose which way we go. And it might be okay. You might end up looping back around in one of those crazy cloverleaf things. Okay, yeah. The two things I'm hearing from you specifically. I mean, there's about a dozen things. If we broke down what you just said yet. The two things that are jumping out to me, the people around you matter. Right? Because your. Your dad versus your mentor can change your life as to where you go. So we can talk about importance of relationships around you, how to get rid of some of those people that need to go. How to get closer to some of those people, people that maybe we want that don't have, you know, we got to work into. The other path that I. I'm gonna throw up and let you see. How you want to go is you're saying that you came from almost a history of poverty, right? And the mindset that was built into your dad that he was attempting to build into you, and he would even say things like that to you, right? We.

We don't. We don't get ahead.

We don't get ahead. We get by.

We get by.

Right? And. And I think that so. So many of us have those limiting beliefs already or have those, you know, repeating loops in our head might not necessarily be about wealth. It might be anything that's going, how do we break those loops? So do we want to talk the people? Do we want to talk the mindset and breaking those loops, or do we want to just do a crazy cloverleaf and somehow get both of them worked in here?

This dude looks like a ninja. I bet he weaves these together somehow.

I'm sure he will.

And they.

They can be two separate. You can finish one, and we can come back to the other. You don't have to segue like we do.

Well, let's do it this way. Let's. Let's Consider. Take a deep breath. Feels good. Okay. Let it out. Right? Feels good. Right? Now, if you have a sinus infection, you're not going to breathe as well, right?

Right. That's a point of constraint. Right? Your airway is constrained. It can't get enough oxygen, it can't get enough energy into your body to then be at optimum, we'll call it optimum authenticity. For example, okay, I discovered after my business journey, my life journey, that there's really five major constraints.

Ready? You ready?

Yeah. Five major constraints that hold us back both in business and in life. I discovered them in business and then later, you know, rediscovered them in life. Arrogance, ignorance, impatience, fear and insecurity.

Yeah, I got those.

Okay, well, it's because you're human, buddy. Welcome to the human race. Right? So that's how I look at it. But the amount of dosage that you have of each one of those comes down directly to how willing you are to go on the inside. Right? So if you're willing to. So I didn't start reshaping my relationship sector, the people I was hanging out with, people I was getting advice from, until I actually went in and discovered a higher sense of self worth on the inside. Right. Because again, I told you my homeless journey was all about worth. It was like, hey, I need to go get all this stuff and show you that I'm special. Just do it just so I can get some form of admiration or love or liking or whatever. And what I discovered was I didn't like myself very much. I was self abandoning. I wasn't really, I wasn't really leaning into myself. I wasn't really helping myself. I wasn't, I wasn't trying to become the best version of myself. Okay. And you'll never, you'll always say, I heard this. And I'm sure people that have gone through different cycles of breaking through certain levels of their life have heard this where you have some friend, you have some family member, they go, well, you're just not the same. Who do you think? You're just not the same. And I remember, I think the third time that happened to me, I was like, you know what, I smiled, I said, you're right, I'm not the same. And I'm going to keep going this direction. And if you want to come with me, that's awesome. If you don't, that's awesome too. But I owe it to myself to become the best version of myself and to see what can happen with my life and that shifting of understanding who I was in the moment, again, it's about alignment. When my mental beliefs, my emotional beliefs, my spiritual beliefs are all aligned in a direct category, I'm able to tackle those five constraints either independently or organically on a regular basis. So you can be. You're going to be put in positions where you can automatically just. You bring the conscious, the subconscious to the conscious, and you say, hey, in this moment, this event's happening. Situational awareness, if you will. Am I being arrogant in this moment, or am I being humbly confident? Arrogance has the need to prove humble. Confidence has the need to be present. One of the things that we were just mentioned a few minutes ago was the concept around children and how sometimes we're tired, we don't want to show up. I'll tell you, one of the most transformational moments happened when my son, who's not biologically mine, but his mother and I were getting a divorce. For some reason, we couldn't figure it out, not that we didn't try. And he said, hey, look, when we made this announcement, the kids, we did it over Zoom because it was during COVID and they were in camp, one was at Campbell, one was in Charlotte, and all this kind of stuff. And my oldest son pulls me to the side and said, will you do me a favor? Can you meet me for dinner tonight? I was like, sure, of course I will. And then I sit down with. He goes, hey, look, I just want to tell you that, you know, I think you were a. A great dad. Great. You know, I think you showed up really well. I think you're a great husband. He goes, but if there's one thing you could work on, just one thing you could work on. Now, keep in mind, by this time, I'd already been, quote, unquote, financially successful, quote, unquote, already had some notability in certain sectors, in certain industries and stuff. And so I'm thinking, okay, well, you know, really, I, like, leaned in. I was really curious. He said, if you can just be more present when you're present, that would mean all that. That would mean everything to us.

Now, if you let that sink in for a second, in that moment, I could have been arrogant. I could have gone in with. I needed to defend. You know, I've been working 12 hours. I'm trying to keep food on the table. I'm trying to do all these things. I'm just tired. I'm exhausted. But what he was saying was, is it wasn't the amount of time I was spending with him. It was the quality time. It was the Phone being down, the computer being put away. Right. The same with ignorance. Like, I was ignorant of that moment. I didn't know that moment existed in his life. I didn't know how that's how he read the situation. Keep in mind, he's a young adult at this time right now. I always try to be at football games and band events and all these different things to show up. Right. So these are different elements of where arrogance and ignorance and patience, fear and insecurity can like, really kind of come up. You know, I could have gotten really insecure after that moment, or I could have chose to say, you know what? I think there's a lot of truth to what he's saying. What do I need to learn from this? And how can I shift and improve myself? And it changed me so much that my entire family dynamic changed drastically in general. My fourth grandchild was just born yesterday.

Congratulations.

Ocean was welcome. Thank you. Ocean was just welcome to the world. And he's going to experience a whole different granddad than even the boys experienced as a father. And I was. Even to Tyler's point, I was a good dad. Right. So it's like, how do. How do we take these constraints and open up our airway, breathe in more energy, breathe in more of who we are? They say that authenticity and love are the two highest vibrations on the planet. If you. And. And you're. If I've noticed that when I'm my most authentic. No mask, in other words, I don't need to show up and say, well, I'm. I'm this and I'm that, and I got all this figured out. And, you know, all that's. All that's BS like that. That doesn't. That's not going to develop brotherhood or community or anything like that. That's gonna. That's gonna prevent the things that I want from coming into my life. And essentially, that's why those five constraints are so important. But until you have a handle on those five constraints to yourself, it's going to be really hard to actually predictably figure out the key relationships you have, the ones you need to walk away from, the ones you need to lean into, the new ones you need to go and find. A lot of the folks that I lean into nowadays are a little further ahead than I am in many different aspects. And I've got people in my family to this day that still haven't really moved very far in a decade. And it doesn't mean I don't love them and doesn't mean they don't love me. It's just their, their mindset and their spirit set isn't really in alignment. So therefore it's gonna be really hard for them even to try to understand me. So, you know, so I pray for them, I love on them, but they don't get a lot of access to me. The people that got a lot of access to me are the people that light me up or that I light up, you know, So, I mean, that's kind of my heart behind everything.

I think that's great. And before I let Bob ask the next question, it sounds like a perfect time to have you just talk a moment about the integrated alignment assessment that everybody who's listening can go take right now. Because it sounds to me like you just covered a lot of that content.

Yeah, I mean, again, I'm, I'm, I'm leading with my heart nowadays. I don't have to. It's important, it's so important for people to realize that most of us are living someone else's life. We're living someone else's life because someone else is telling us that we should be a doctor, a lawyer, we should try harder, we should do the sport, we should, should do the thing, we should marry that person, not marry that person. Like we're, we're constantly taking on so much stuff from other people, even if.

It'S not a person telling you, this society, the Internet, the social media is just being beaten.

And I'm gonna tell you right now, so the, you know, I mentioned this earlier and I'll come back to the assessment in a second. But the way, the way it works is until you actually understand who you are, it's really hard for you to figure out where it is you need to go. Right? It's very difficult. So I can take, I work with entrepreneurs and achievers and leaders that are, you know, trying to break through a seven figure ceiling and, or I have several clients that are nine and ten figure earners. Now you would say, okay, well, Stephen, nine earners, what are they learning from you? Like, all I'm doing is I'm just leading them into authentic alignment so all their money and prestige and all the things are actually aligned with who they are. With the six and seven figure folks, I'm just trying to help them align with who they are to influence our business in such a way that allows them to basically compound time, talent, resources. Because if you're going to live a life worth living, it has to be aligned with who you are, authentic to your core, and allow you to compound Time, talent, resources. So the quiz, what the quiz does is it helps you break down just a handful. It takes like five minutes. Helps you break down key attributes of where you are in your journey. It brings awareness to what needs to change and then it allows you to step into that. And I'm not trying to sell a stinking thing. This is just one of those situations here I want to serve. This is the stuff that changed my life. It's what led me to opportunities. It's what led me to freedom in relationships. It's what led me now to, you know, hopefully inspiring and encouraging people all over the world.

And how do they go take that assessment? If they're sitting here listening and saying, I want to take that.

Oh, we would just invite them to go to stevenscoggins.com alignment. It's the easiest form again, to really unlock yourself if you've been stuck. Like if you thought you've been stuck in a rat wheel and you're not making progress, maybe you've lived the same, the same decade, the same two or three years on repeat. This is the quickest way to unlock that.

Bob Stewart.

I just, I don't even know that I have a question as much as a. Arrogance and ignorance. I think to me, like, I love this list.

Give the list for our audience again. I can't believe there's five things.

Arrogance, ignorance, impatience, fear, and insecurity. I think the best thing that ever happened to me, Steven, is at some point along the way in my professional career, career, in my personal life, I finally learned how to say, like, I don't know. Yeah, right. Are you like, yeah, early on, man, I just want to prove to everybody, like, what. How much I did know. And so I would never admit I know something. I'd make up an answer. I'd. Around the edges of that answer.

Everybody else know. You're, you're full of it too, by the way, because I've done, I've done that too, right?

And finally one day, I don't even know why it dawned on me. I'm just like, you know what?

I don't know.

And it's okay. I don't know. Like, I just need to know everything. So I really like this list, man. And I think the more that you lean into these things and let, let yourself be okay, that these things are out there and you're, you're likely to. Not likely you are going to experience them and be aware as you're doing it. Because I think we sabotage ourselves around these things, right? If we don't respond to them in the right way. And the, you know, with a little bit of humility or whatever. The thing is, right, we sabotage ourselves on these.

All right, then Bob doesn't have a question, so I'm jumping in. Our tagline is health, wealth, leadership and legacy. And I want to bookend that. So I want you to give me a little health at the beginning, whether that's, you know, you said you now come from a place of calmness instead of emotional and reaction that so many of us do. So. So to me, that's. That's health, right? The better health we're in, the better we're able to stay calm. So let's talk a little that and then let's finish up talking a little bit on the other end of our tag here, which is the legacy. How do we go about leaving, developing, because we're building it each and every day, what it's going to look like.

So.

So start on the health side and then take us to the legacy side, and we'll probably already be wrapped up on time.

Yeah, man, I'd love to, like. So when I think about health, what I've learned is, I'll give you. So I'll do this for a quick second. So when we talk, we'll go back to impatience for just a second. What I've discovered is as human beings, we're not really good about being present in the moment. And patience is a huge part of that. We all think, especially entrepreneurs, this is the one thing they all share in common, is we all think we should be further ahead than we actually are. And it doesn't matter what level you're playing at. What I've discovered is, is by going slow or going like being still, you get to speed up. So my day starts like this. I wake up most every morning between 5:30 and 6. I have a mantra that I do three times every morning. I'm healthy, I'm wealthy, I'm wise. I'm a steward of the most high. I love you, Steven, because I didn't get to hear I love you, Stephen, a lot early on, right? So I had to kind of reparent myself. So while those things might seem silly, they mean they're meaningful to me. Me. I'll then go from there. I'll get some more quiet time. I'll grab a journal and a pen and I begin a process called what I hear you say is. So I'll open a new page and I'll put what I hear you say is. And I'll sit there for two or three minutes until something comes to me and I'll just write it down and then lo and behold, I'll go back and read it and it'll be some of the most profound things you ever heard in your life. And I know it's not coming from me. I then will go take that next step. I'll go to the gym, like be, get active. I work out pretty hard. I'm in pretty good shape because I work on it. It's, it's, it's my cortisol release. That's where I learned actually was when I went to go build businesses, I was gaining weight super fast because of cortisol and stress. Well, this thing gave me an outlet to do that. Right. I'm also really big into understanding methylation nowadays. I'm good friends with Gary Breca and Gary Breca's got me on all kinds of cool supplements that are all herbal and natural and I feel amazing. So when you talk about wholeness and you talk about health, I look at health as wholeness, mind, body, soul. So how can I feed my mind, my body, my spirit, day in and day out consistently to allow for continued growth. So that gives you kind of an overview of kind of how I work on my wellness approach to health. Because you can't like be all hardcore in one lane or the other. A little bit in a lot of those areas will do a lot of good. Heavily focused on one will leave a bunch of them blank, basically. Now when I think about legacy, what I've discovered is legacy. Creating a legacy is nothing more than creating a legacy that outlives you. Now the best way to create a legacy that outlives you is to go out there and be able to create a change in someone else that's behind you, you, because now your legacy lives in them. You heard? We started this entire conversation a little bit early on with Steve. Mark, most of the world doesn't know who Steve Meyrick is unless they've heard me speak somewhere else before. But look at what he did. His encouragement, his mentorship, his leadership, his stories, his principles, his fundamentals. All of those still live in me. And what he never anticipated, nor did I, is now I share those fundamentals and principles and legacies and stories at scale with other people, right? It doesn't matter if you're serving one or you're serving a multitude. If you actually show up to add value and be of service and have healthy boundaries around yourself where you're not self abandoning, you will automatically create a legacy that outlives you. And it doesn't have to be in the workplace. It doesn't have to be in your home. It doesn't have to be in your community. It'll probably be in all of those areas if you actually show up to add value. So that's my secret to create a legacy.

I can see why they send you on podcast tours to go around and show up in the studios. Thanks, bro.

Thank you. I just want to be of service, man.

All right, so we're talking with Stephen Scoggins, folks. That's Stephen with a ph. Okay? So if you're going to his website and you're checking them out and you're trying to figure that one out, the ph. When you spell Steven Scoggins, if you want the assessment it was Steven Scoggins.com backslash alignment. Okay? If you just want his website to check out to connect with him, to see what else he's got going on, where he might be in your area, things like that, go check it out. Stephen, you said a lot of stuff. Maybe there's something on your heart we didn't ask and you haven't been able to say yet. You haven't been able to work it in. Maybe there's something on your heart that you said already that you want to say again. Because if our audience, who's impatient because they're entrepreneurs, and while they're listening to this, they're writing emails and they're texting and they're kids and they're. They're only half listening. And if they just focus right now for this one minute, what's the message you want them to make sure they take from this episode?

So a guy that became a good friend of mine named Dave Ramsey a long time ago said something when I went. When I was. I went to one of his seminars, and he knew of my. My journey. And I was in a room full of 600 people, and I stood up with tears in my eyes, and I told David, like, I am trying to change my leadership. I'm trying to change how I have approached life. I'm trying to all these things. What do I do? Because it's not working. I don't feel like it's working. My team hasn't forgiven me. My family hasn't forgiven me. But yet I'm changing. I know I'm changing. And the best advice he ever gave me, that I've. That I think every entrepreneur should at least hear is if you're actively trying to change, one, keep going. And two, give yourself grace.

Give Yourself, Grace, you're growing, you're changing, you're evolving. The things that happened before that circumstance, a bad decision over here, a bad decision over there, or a lack of understanding here or there doesn't have to be the title that you live for for the rest of your life. I can either, like, I've been divorced. I could either say, well, I'm a divorced man. That's my identity, or I could say, the divorce is part of my journey, and now I'm doing something different. In order to do that, you have to be willing to give yourself grace. If you can give yourself grace, you're actually giving yourself permission to grow. And that's, I think, what I would love to the audience to say, because I think that was the piece of advice that I needed for my heart during that time that I couldn't articulate to other people. So I think give yourself some grace and continue growing.

I love that every day you tell yourself, I love you, Stephen. That, like, inside of that is that grace that you're, you know, every day you're reminding yourself to give yourself grace. That's so good.

Good job, Chad.

Good job, Chad.

I wish everyone could have been with me for that. That 10 seconds. That felt like an hour to all of you as Bob just waved arms like a Muppet and couldn't figure out the words to come out of his mouth.

Doesn't happen very often, Stephen, that I don't have anything to say, but thanks, man. This was awesome. This was a great, great time spent today.

Sincerely, My Honor. I really appreciate you guys sharing your audience with me, and I hope I was able to add some value today.

You absolutely were, folks. Check them out. Steven scoggins.com you want to learn more, check out winmake give.com if you want to check out the different shows we have, we've got our Facebook group. If you have questions, comments, queries, concerns, quibbles, complaints, criticisms, critiques, anything, we're there for you until our next episode. Do good.