"THESE 3 SECRETS That Will Change Your Life IMMEDIATELY!" | Evan Carmichael

Stephen Scoggins went from homelessness to building multiple businesses. He shares how intentional calendar boundaries protect family time, why most people quit too early, and how mentorship accelerated his path to success.
Questions this video answers
Six different businesses (he also later says he’s had about 12 businesses total, with six really successful).
About 400+ people.
Five days a week (not every single day).
He takes one week every quarter dedicated to family.
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You got to be willing to do today what others don't. So you can have tomorrow, others won't. There's only three really great questions in life. Who am I, why am I here and what do I do about it?
Right.
If you can answer those three questions, you've got purpose, you've got passion and you've got commitment. And you've got to believe in yourself. I mean, you've got to hashtag believe, baby. You got to believe in yourself.
Ladies and gentlemen, Steven Scoggins in the house. Why don't you give a super quick intro for what you're all about because I'm a fan of your work. Recently discovered you and want to introduce you to my audience.
Oh, thanks, man. You know, I guess you would call it life mastery stuff. I, I guess the struggle point came through being homeless and went on to create six different businesses. Several of them, you know, large revenue generating things, employ about 400 plus people. And I thought it was about time to give back. I kind of figured out there's three great purposes in life. Serving the person used to be, which I know you say in a different way, but it's like one of the greatest purposes that you're ever going to have. Yeah. And then obviously serving the person you once loved and serving the person you wouldn't you wish you could have saved. So you think about Susan B. Coleman and all these different organizations, stuff like that. I find that all of our passions kind of come out of one of those places. So I figured it was time to hopefully add value to the world. And a big believer in the brand new book, man. My team loves it by the way. It is incredible. Dude, you did a fantastic job with that book. So well done.
Cool, man. Thank you. Well, so for those watching live, you can ask us a some questions. And for those watching the replay on the YouTube channel, welcome. You get, you get to meet Steven Scog is in the house. He's. You've got your own YouTube channel too now.
We did.
It's getting there, it's growing. I'm pumped to see the country putting up there. Cool. All right, so pop some questions down below, see what we can do. John is writing in to say, how do you dedicate more time to your business without taking time away from your family?
Be intentional. Yeah. So for me, one of the ways that I do that is I try to have a specific takeaway. So there's one day a week that is completely earmarked. I put the phone away, put the computer away and pretty much focus on Time with the family. Nothing's more powerful than spending time with your family, because at the end of the day, if your business happens to struggle or whatever, they're going to be the support system that's going to carry you through. So that's one of the ways in which I do it. The other thing that I think I do differently than a lot of entrepreneurs is I segregate it within my calendar. So I take the time to be intentional about planning that time out. My wife struggled with it at first because she was like, what do you mean you got to plan time with me? I'm like, well, I want to be intentional. Like, so I don't want to be distracted. I don't want to be getting phone calls and emails and all these dings, you know, And I think that was one of the biggest things that I did. So Saturdays and Sundays are her time. The family's time is when we go do the fun stuff. And, you know, we try to do that. We're getting ready to build a new house, so we know we just got to get doing the design center selections and stuff like that. And I also make it a point to every quarter, have one week. I take one week every quarter for me specifically where I go and dedicate that time to my family, to my friends. That allows us to do that. You know, Nina and whatnot knows that we were in the mountains last week and I barely responded to any emails or anything. You know, I got in trouble when I did. But we, you know, we spent half a day building Lego sets, which was fine for us. So.
So to that point, it's crazy how people create a calendar only for their business ambitions and their business meetings. And then that tends to champ all over all the personal stuff. So I love that they put like gates or walls around personal time as well to say, no, you cannot interrupt me unless, like, everything is burning down or calling or something.
Well, and the only person that chirped in was Connor, who that your team is getting to know a little bit. And then he got. He got my. My wife actually text him and said, connor, it's my time. So it's pretty funny. I love it.
Okay, how to know when to quit.
That was a hard one for me. I don't know how to quit, to be honest. It depends on what you're talking about. Are you talking life or are you talking business? So in life, there really is nothing better than being. Having a persevering spirit, right? There's. There's nothing better than being willing to pick Yourself back up after a delay. You know, if I'd have listened to my limiting beliefs and stayed in that place when I was homeless, then there was no way that I'd ever get to the place now where hopefully I can encourage people how to break three, even though. Even though their circumstances may not be quite as dire. Some have been. There's a greater mission and a greater story when you're actually taking the time to dig deep and keep going. I've learned that sometimes you don't need to feel like you have to win every day as much as you need to just take the time to win the hour or the minute.
Right.
Sometimes, you know, I was overcoming depression. One of the things that I struggle with specifically, was the anxiety that came with it, you know, so sometimes I would just kind of be rewarded with the fact that I got out of bed, I kind of cleaned myself up like I would normally go to a job or something like that and said, okay, that's a win, you know, so it depends on where you're at, where you're coming from, when it comes to business. You know, a lot of business ventures will fail early on because you're learning the process. And one of the ways you can kind of prevent that is to spend more time being apprenticed, if you will, by someone who's already in that industry or something like that, to kind of prevent that. I find that one of the greatest things to do when it comes to looking at a business perspective, when it's time to quit or when it's time to pivot, I would actually refer to pivot is are you actually able to carry on that. Carry on that endeavor, you know, at cost or for free, for a long time if you need to, while you're getting your infrastructure in place? You know, not every business that I've had has been successful. I'll just be honest with you. I think I've had probably 12 businesses total, and I've only got six that have been, you know, really successful. So that's a good.
That's a good hit ratio, though.
That's a good hit. Yeah, it's 50%, you know, so. But, you know, you got to keep up with that. You just got it.
You got to have faith.
You know, you got to dig deep. You got.
You got.
You can't have a quit mentality. You got to see yourself as a warrior. One of the things that I took away, even in your book, Evan, recently, was the quitting. If it's. If you quit now, there's no future for you or the people in the lives you're supposed to touch. You know, you got to have that moment where you just keep digging and keep going to kind of make sure that that kind of takes place. And, you know, whether it's life or whether it's business, do you believe in where you're going? You know, that's one of the things I love most about your book, is the word believe. Right. Do you believe it? And if you don't believe it, can you find a couple friends that believe in it for you while you're getting good at believing in yourself? You know, my very first mentor, Steve Barrick, one of the things I loved about him as he gave me this quote, has been my linchpin quote. And he said, stephen, you have to be willing to do today what others won't, so you can have tomorrow what others don't.
Right.
You got to be willing to do today what others don't, so you can have tomorrow others won't. For those of you, if you are going to go super far, if you were going to grind at a super deep level, you are going to have to know that there is a season where you're kind of hidden in the cleft of a rock. There's a season when you're unknown. No one knows who you are, no one knows what you're doing. And that hard work that pays, that's hidden, becomes the success that becomes visible to others when you put in the work. So hopefully that helps.
Yeah, I like it. All I would add is I think you quit when you don't love it anymore.
Yeah.
I think actually a lot of entrepreneurs stay in businesses or stay in relationships longer than they should.
Yeah.
Because they actually lost their love for it three years ago, but they're only sticking with it out of duty or dedication or, you know, what would people say if I left this business and then they can't go off and do something amazing. But if you still love it and you quit, you're going to regret it. You're going to. You're going to be 95. Looking back, what if I just gave it one more week or one more month?
Right, Absolutely.
That's the asset. That's. I would use Owen saying how to not overthink mistakes.
Well, my two cents and mistakes are what lead you to success. Right. So I'm a high school dropout. I never graduated college. I never went to college, never graduated high school. And my mistakes are what have taught me to become successful over time. Right. A lot of people think that I kind of give this analogy to one of my sons recently that you're building a foundation with a brick wall where all the. All the lines are super straight and all the bricks are super nice and like tight and whatnot. I kind of look at it more like stacked stone. Right. You're going to have certain stones that are thin, certain stones that are thick, certain stones that are oblong shaped and stuff like that, which represent the messiness, if you will, of how to become successful. So I think one of the things that you need to do is be okay with quote, unquote failing, which I don't believe in. I believe it's learning. So either you learn or you win. Right. So that's. I think that's my personal take on overthinking mistakes. If you dwell on your mistakes, you won't be able to basically strategize how to move forward.
Yeah. And looking at your content too. One of the things that I pulled out is that you just don't get caught up in overthinking anything.
Yeah.
Just go. And you don't spend time looking backwards. I think we see that across all the successful people that I profiled too. It's like you just don't spend that much time looking backwards.
Yeah.
Like, what am I doing right now.
And where are we going? That's right.
It didn't work. Great.
Next you'll crash a car if you're looking in the rear view mirror. Yeah.
I love it. How to push through depression and start becoming more persistent towards your goals.
Well, I can only tell you from experience what worked for me.
There was a moment when I was in. So right after I went from being homeless in a room in my brother's mobile home that we had. And while I was in that mobile home, I had to get really clear on what it is I thought I wanted to do or what I thought it is I needed to become. So one of the most pivotal moments for me was just having a notepad and a pen and laying out what would be the perfect life if I could actually create it. Not knowing if I could or not. Right. But actually taking the time to kind of just dream. Like what. What would it be like to do a specific thing or be with a specific person or have a specific thing or be in a passionate career or something like that that I loved. You know, I did. That was my greatest tool that I used. And then I. What I did was I took that same list of the life that I wanted, knowing that I didn't have it at the time, knowing I didn't have the skill set, I didn't have the teaching, I didn't have the mentorship. I didn't have the education. And I decided to put it up on mirror, on my mirror. So every single day when I woke up, I had to look at that list and I had to ask myself, did I take a step today that was going to lead me towards that level?
Right.
Did I actually take a step? Did I pick up the phone? Did I go and try to find a mentor? Did I. That I read a new book, right? There's a term, readers or leaders, I think everybody's at least heard of once, right? Books are powerful, right? Those are mentors in print, right. Those are mentors from a historical nature that have already been there, done that. Did I take some time that day?
And what I did was I let my life build on each individual win step by step by step by step. And then what happens is you don't really realize you're coming out of the depression state or you don't really realize you're coming out of anxiety or fear. It happens because you're taking a daily step. 365 days in a year. If you take a step every day, you're already gonna be a lot further along. And if you've never taken a step to begin with, so not. Why not just take one step?
So how did you get over that? You're sitting there, you're, you know, you are homeless, you're in your brother's mobile home. You write these things on a mirror. How do you get over the. I can't do that. Like, that goes me. There's no way I can do. Like, I think that's where a lot of people will have one day where they think I can do all this amazing things and they get motivated and inspired. I'm gonna go change my life and be a millionaire, whatever. Yeah. But then they wake up the next day. It's like, I can't do that. Such as someone who's depressed. Like, how did you get out of that?
Well, for me, I focused on the tactic. Like, I focused on the step. I didn't focus on whether or not I believed I could do it or not. I didn't focus on my limiting beliefs at all because, to be honest, I was completely unsure. But I knew if I didn't at least try, if I didn't at least take a step, then I knew I was never going to get there, you know? So I set my goals pretty high. I raised my standard, if you will I decided that I was going to, you know, get up every morning and, you know, at 5 or 6am and do some workout just to kind of get my blood flowing. Right. I just changed my behaviors based on the life that I wanted. And it happened slowly. Literally a year later. You don't even realize you're coming out of depression until you can literally look back a year later and see it's happened. Right. If you focus too much on, hey, I feel depressed, I feel. I feel like I don't want to play a role in the world if I feel like, you know, there were certain days I didn't want to get out of bed, like straight up, didn't gonna get out of bed. Curtains are drawn, dark rooms. I don't know how long that process was, but I can tell you that when I stayed there, I knew nothing was gonna change. Absolutely knew nothing was gonna change.
Right.
So if you focus on taking it just to take a step and whatever that step is for you, if you've been killing it for a long time and you've been.
Kind of been an achiever, so to speak, maybe you're going to challenge your perspective on what really matters. Maybe you're going to take the time to challenge, you know, kind of the perspective that you're using to obtain a new skill. Maybe you're going to partner with. With new people. You know, I've learned a lot by watching a lot of your content recently, Evan, and that's empowered me and encouraged me to kind of dream even bigger than what we've been dreaming as a team here. You know, I think you dream big and you take one step a day, and lo and behold, you'll look back like nobody's business and you'll see that you've actually come incredibly far. And when you're that at that place, right, once you've become someone new, now you can go back and serve the person you used to be. So maybe you focus on serving the person you used to be rather than just trying to become something different.
Right.
Maybe there's a greater purpose or something better and bigger to go after.
Yeah. I think surrounding yourself with people who have come out of it even just as like, I've never been depressed. I've had anxiety, I've had problems, but I've never been like, would never say I was depressed. So I may not be a good role model for you, but Stephen has, and he was homeless and lived out of his brother's, you know, mobile home and now has 400 employees. Right. And so if I'm you. I. I subscribe to Steven's YouTube channel. Like, this video is. What is it? Every day?
Are you daily now? Yeah. So we're posting a video every single day? Uh, well, five days a week. Not every single day. So we take two days off because we have to edit. Right, right, Right.
So, but like, in looking at that, it's like, hey, here's someone who's exactly like me, who's, who's come out on the other side. And I want a mindset like him. Like, how did, how did you make that shift? And, and there's always. I mean, you have so many videos and so many stories that you're sharing. Like if that was me, if I've been homeless or I'm depressed right now. I find guys like you and I'm. And I'm consuming their content every day to say, huh, it's like, it's possible. If you could do it, maybe I can do. And just. That seed of hope can be the thing that keeps you going. Did you have something like that that you looked at and said, this is what I want to become?
You know, we didn't have the Internet when I, when I first started digging out, but what I did have is I did have Steve Meyrick and I did have Susan Batts, who the world will probably never know about, with exception of what I. When I'm on a stage somewhere, I can talk about the impact that they made to me. Right. Steve. Susan Bass talked me from. Talked me off from taking my life. And Steve Meyrick taught me business skills, and he taught me relational skills. He taught me to dream bigger than my circumstances, because had I followed my circumstances, I would have probably stayed in the same place in the same state.
Right.
I forgot who actually originated the quote, but show me your five friends, I'll show you your future. Right. You got to choose. I reserve, choose those relationships. Well, we talked about on one of the videos we had called something called the Mentorship Matrix, right. There's four areas that right now, in this day and age, that you can actually get mentorship. Right. There's the one to one relationship like I had with Steve. There's the historical, which comes out of books and stuff like that. There's the digital side that comes out of like videos and podcasts and things of that nature. Right?
All right.
And then there's what's called a co star. There's somebody that comes alongside of you that's. That's kind of in the same place. Maybe they're a little ahead, but like a Ping pong partner, like we can bounce ideas off of. Right. Well, maybe this is the right direction. Maybe this is the right direction. There's a conversation. That conversation breeds new thought, which breeds new action, which breeds new results.
I love it. And I think there's also the evolving. I don't think consider this a digital mentor, but for people. Like, if you go live on Instagram and people can ask you questions and you can bring them in like this, they may not ever have that opportunity to come and see you and talk to you, and you're a busy guy, but they can spend 5 minutes, 7 minutes with you on Instagram Live. And actually, it's not just a digital, like, I'm learning from afar, but like, hey, I got one question. I can ask it to Steven. Here it is. That opportunity never existed before, so.
No, it hasn't.
Your heroes are going live. Go. Go. Try to connect with them.
Yeah. And, you know, through some of your mentorship, that's actually something we'll be looking to do in the near future.
So I think you would crush it, dude. You would crush, like, a daily Instagram Live. I mean, I do it two o' clock every day, I think. I think you'd be great.
Well, thanks, man. Well, I got Christian over here in the corner with me from our. From our graphic design team, so she's ready to kind of make sure we get that in place as soon as possible.
All right, Christian, let's go. You know, like, at the beginning, what I would do, this is what I did too. At the beginning. I scheduled all of my people who are coming on because I was just my audience. And so, like, look at how many people already follow you and say, hey, I'm doing a new daily show. Whether it's 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 25, I go 25 minutes. But I booked my first five guests. Would you like to have a free 25 minute one on one with me on my Instagram Live? Yeah, Right. Like from all your followers, for anybody watching too. You don't need to have thousands. You have a hundred followers. You'll get five people who will say yes. Right. And then you start building it up and training them that, hey, two o' clock Eastern every day I'm going live. And then people will want to join. Like, we're doing text questions now, but people will. They're. People are putting up their hands like, hey, can I come in live next?
Right? And that. And that's cool.
And. And you being able to see their eyes light up to say, like, you've Helped them. Right. The person who used to be. You're helping them and serving them. It's tremendous value, but also great content for Instagram, but also cutting up for your YouTube channel.
Well, and you also get a sense of who they are and what their needs are. Right. So, I mean, our heart is to be sincere. There's a lot of people in the. In the space that are. You're trying to cut through the noise and you're trying to do things well, and you're trying to do things right. We have a sincere heart. I would do this for free. Like, I don't have any. Like, this is. Steve Myrick taught me the power of creating a legacy by helping someone just understand more about themselves, understand more about where they want to go, understand more about how to get there. Right. If you think about it, there's only three really great questions in life. Who am I? Why am I here, and what do I do about it?
Right.
If you can answer those three questions, you've got purpose, you've got passion, and you've got commitment. And then it's just about not giving up.
I love it, guys. You gotta go watch it on YouTube. There's tons of value there. Okay, next question popping up here. How do you stop yourself from telling your loved ones all the ideas as they come?
So I may not be the best one for answering this question, but I'll give it a go. I'm an idea machine.
Yeah.
So I love producing content. I love doing great things. There are a couple different things that I do. I share a lot of concepts with my team first, my wife second. I know that sounds crazy, but my wife is designed to keep me grounded. Right. So there's certain things that she'll challenge me on a little bit and say, hey, maybe it's not that it's too big, but maybe needs to be looked at again. And then I actually use this. This pesky device that we're on today called an iPhone. And I actually have to keep an idea folder note. So when I'm at the gym, I'm typically doing a lot of.
Mobility stuff and whatnot. You know, I'm in. My brain's firing. Right. So I wrote an entire.
Not a script per se, but some of the concepts that I want to share in our upcoming videotaping on Thursday.
Right.
And I try to use that as my idea folder, so. But I have an idea about every 10 seconds. I mean, I'm an entrepreneur's entrepreneur. I did a strengths finder years ago, and it's. And strengths Finder basically said, if you were anything other to be entrepreneur, you'd have big problems.
Right.
Because of that. So I use an idea folder. I use my. What I call my board of directors, right? These are people that I'm like. I sit down with Connor and Christian and Evan and you know, our Evan, including. And then you're Evan, right? And I say, hey, what do you think about this? And they either say, hey, look, you know, it's gonna. I would do this, I would do that kind of thing. So, you know, those are some of the things that I think that would be helpful. I think just being honest with yourself and then. Oh, I gotta. This is one that was hard for me to break. Sorry. I got a bonus one.
Yeah.
Don't tie your identity to someone not seeing the full vision or the full thing. One of the biggest mistakes that I made in trying to get myself together and get myself to a place where I could actually be successful in my. What I. What I deemed a success was if someone. If I had an idea and they immediately shot it down, I immediately gave up. Okay. Certain people, especially if they're in a season where they are. I don't want to say that. I don't want to say this rude. They don't know the other way to say it. So please forgive me. If you have a small mind, it's hard to understand big ideas.
Okay? So if you're stuck in a situation where you have a big, big concept, a big idea, something powerful, something good that you really want to pursue, then try bouncing that stuff off of someone else that maybe is either already where you want to go or somebody who's in, at least in the running lane to get there. Now you do need people in your life to bounce ideas off of that are going to be people who can keep you grounded and watch out for your blind spots. One of the things we talk a lot about on our channel is strength struggles and blind spots, right? You got strengths that are your naturally gifts, you got struggles, things that you don't do as well. Like I suck because I'm dyslexic, right? So I can't. I have to write an email like 15 times or have someone write it for me in many cases, right? And then you got the blind spots. Those are the areas that you never see coming, right? You need people covering your sex, right? So when you go to produce an idea, don't tie your identity to it. In other words, it may pivot, it may change some, but give people that deserve the time and the presence to be there, the space to help you shape that idea. You know, we're going to. You know, we talked about doing this massive live event that we've done over the last couple years until Covid happened. And that live event was crazy successful. What I had to do to get my team on board is I literally wrote out an entire blog or essay, if you will, being as descriptive as I could possibly be from the person's perspective who was going to sit in that seat. And the team knew I was receiving, the team knew I was. I was serious when I couldn't stop crying when I was reading it.
So maybe change the approach. Don't tie your identity to it and choose the right people to share it with.
Yeah, I think. I mean, that's the problem for a lot of people who are starting up is that they have nobody to talk to. Like, they could say, oh, Stephen looks great now. You got a team and 400 people and all this stuff. But, like, at the beginning, where there's nobody to talk to and you tell your parents or your friends and they think you're crazy and they say, no, just go get a job. Like, what do you do in that scenario? Do you just keep it to yourself? Like, you got nobody to talk to? Do you go find somebody? Don't. Just don't.
Yeah, I mean, so, you know, before YouTube and stuff like that, I would talk about big visions or big ideas with people who are already on the path. I learned a long time ago that if your circumference of influence is happy where they're at, you know, call it Misery Loves Company or whatever, if they're happy where they're at, they're not going to be prone to help you or believe you believe in that idea. The first person that has to believe in anything, and you said this best in your book, is you. You got to believe it's worth it. You got to believe the sacrifice is worth it. You got to believe that going the extra miles worth it, even when you don't see the evidence. Because so much of success comes from the stuff that happened five years earlier.
Right.
So much of success comes from there. And you've got to believe in yourself. I mean, you've got to hashtag believe, baby. You got to believe in yourself. You know what I'm saying?
I agree there. I'm not going to even.
I love it. Cool. Well, man, it's crazy how quickly time flies when you're having fun. You definitely need to be doing this. Like, I think you'll crush it. I think Especially if you bring people in, because the question that they ask is. Is a surface level question, too. And you'll just get to the core super quick when you're with somebody face to face.
Oh, thanks, man.
But for people watching who want to dive deeper into your world, either here live on the replay or YouTube, where do you want them to go?
You know, hit, hit. Obviously, visit YouTube if you haven't already. Feel free to follow us here on Instagram. We'd love to have you. And especially we get ready to do these questions ourselves and then journey principles.com.
Thank you, man. I'm so pumped for your journey, what you're doing, the good you're pumping out. And I'm super excited to see you blow up with everything you're doing, too.
I appreciate it, man. Thank you so much. I believe everything you guys are doing. Your team is just amazing. Dude, you probably already know that, but shout out to those guys because they're killing it.
I love it. Thank you, man. Doctor.
All right, buddy. See you. Take care. Bye. Now, if you love this interview, you got to check out this one right here. It's going to keep you moving forward.
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