You Must COMMIT to the HUSTLE to FIND YOUR PURPOSE! | Cary Jack

You know, first step in any change is awareness. So I do think it's possible. It's just you have to have the awareness and then you have to have the discipline to make different decisions.

I know, like, one of your major missions in life is to help people uncover meaning and fulfillment. Right? Everything that I've ever witnessed you do, which is all powerful, has all centered around really those two items, like bringing those two items together. What is holding most people back from actually finding meaning and fulfillment?

I would say service. Service is lacking. If you don't feel fulfilled, it's probably because you're not serving enough other people and helping them achieve what they want.

I think for me, also balance. Balance is.

A touchy subject. You know, people, people, some people are like, I don't believe in work life balance. You know, it's like, I believe in work life harmony. And I'm like, I get it. But I'll tell you my mantra and the thing I live by, Stephen, is balance equals happiness. And I really do believe that. And I hope your listeners can, by the end of this interview, start to adopt that mindset.

Oh, I'm sure they can. I mean, the reality is. Well, check this out. So I haven't had a chance to kind of mention this to the audience yet. So I hosted an event here in Raleigh, North Carolina, called Market Movers. Carrie Jack was one of our top rated, like, audience fan favorites. And he taught this concept called soul mapping. And, and, and, and he did it in such a way that only Carrie Jack can do it. He. One of my favorite parts about the keynote itself is when he walks out, he's like, got a picture of Jesus and the guy from Geico, the. The caveman, he goes, what is one thing these two guys have in common?

Yeah, yeah. It looks similar to both of them when I have my caveman hair down. So yeah, man. And the camo suit, that seemed to.

Oh, that was hilarious. That was hilarious. Well, yeah, I wanted to break down a little bit of soul mapping. Now, I know it's out in your brand new book and I know that people can do that, and soul mapping is obviously an acronym, but I want to touch base on a few of those items. First of all, how did you discover soul mapping as a process?

Well, initially, I just broke my life down into 10 different areas to focus on. It wasn't really this fleshed out idea. It evolves over time, just like any thing you're doing and you put love and time and energy into it, continues to cultivate. This was no different. It Started out, oh, I'm just going to essentially break down my life in these 10 different areas that I need to focus on in order to achieve this holistic, beautiful, fulfilling, joyous life that I crave. And, you know, I call these the 10 alignments. And then I started talking about them on my podcast, which you were a guest on the Happy Guest podcast and crushed it. And, you know, I talked about them in my ebook, and then I talked to him in my Masterminds. And, you know, people I realized, couldn't really remember 10 things. You know, it was a stretch. It's a stretch for a lot of people. And so I was like, all right, I need to put an acronym around this framework. And I rearranged a couple adjectives and the order, and next thing I know, soul mapping was the natural choice because this truly is your soul's map to the blissfully balanced promised land.

No, I love that. It was funny. When you were out there presenting, doing your thing, I was like, I could totally see him actually coming up with something called soul mapping, just because the way your personality is, you're super chill, but you're also super gifted. And, you know, I feel like part of your giftedness has actually comes from that chillax state of mind. And, guys, don't get me wrong, the dude works his butt off. Like, it's not like he's just chilling up in Montana, but. But he has this essence of accepting life on life's terms and then trying to digest life based on life's terms. The crazy part was, is when you began to, like, talk to us about your story a little bit during. During that scenario, I feel like your life was heading towards a totally different direction prior to soul mapping. I want to break that down a little bit, because one of the things I've discovered is with this specific audience is they're all facing various levels of things that are holding them back. Right. And they're now, hopefully, after watching the show and listening to the show for some time, they're well on their way to actually kind of, you know, becoming unstoppable, as we like to say. But, you know, I always like to start with the guest story a little bit to better understand kind of the before and the after.

Right.

Because the after is pretty cool. What was the before like?

Yeah, well, it's a great question. I mean, I grew up just.

With these two very different geographic locations. My dad had a ranch in Red Lodge, Montana, and then my mom lived in Sarasota, Florida, near the beach. So I kind of grew up you know, surfing and skating and running around. You know, the key, they call it siesta key. And then in the Montana wilderness, you know, playing cowboy, camping, fishing, hunting, hiking. And I'm grateful very much for the different, you know, geographic locations and the balance between them both. However, you know, my family life was a little bit in disarray. You know, I had plenty of love and both my parents were entrepreneurs. My dad owned a busy mechanic shop and my mom was a chiropractor and she had her own practice. And, you know, we, we had lots of love in the, in the family. However, there was lots of struggle and strife. And, you know, I talked about it on stage at your event, but, you know, it wasn't the easiest of childhood. I'm blessed. There's a lot worse, no question, but everyone has a story. There was lots of abuse, physical and emotional, and there's mental illness to combat. I had to move 24 times before the age of, actually 18 due to my mom's illness. There was a very gut wrenching divorce and a lot of, you know, issues there. And I just found myself doing a lot of the wrong things, you know, going down a path that was not in alignment with my true calling. However, I didn't know it at the time. I was just up to no good. I was.

Doing things I shouldn't. You know, I can elaborate, but just not proud of those days, you know, and it came to a head in my teenage years, you know, initially, where I realized this path is going to land me either dead or in prison, you know, and on stage I shared it actually landed me in jail.

And that was a breaking point for me, you know, where I realized, shit, man, this is not. This is not the man I am. This is not who I want to be. And ultimately I changed my ways. It wasn't the easiest decision, you know, breaking bad habits and. Yeah, and for me, it was one of those things. It's, it's. You have to change your ways or else you're not going to make it. And so I just decided from that moment on to use my powers as a force for good, you know, instead of hustling happy hustle, you know, and really in alignment with my true calling, serving others and not looking out for myself, you know, it was one of those things, Stephen, where I very easily could have ended up a statistic, you know, and I'm very grateful for the lessons and the, and the journey. However, yeah, it was, it was one of those. It was one of those things where it could have went the Other way. So. Yeah.

Well, let me ask you this. I mean, do you feel like that maybe one of the greatest traps we can get in when trying to find this alignment is basically getting lost in the person that we are today?

Right.

You know, you kind of use that. That moment in time to kind of, you know, you're. You're talking about reflecting. Hey, look, I came to this moment where I knew that this wasn't who I was designed to be or wanted to be.

Do you.

Do you find that people that you work with have also kind of had that same. Aha?

I find everyone has that. Aha. It's just, do we have that discipline and.

That.

You know, gusto to actually listen to it and then implement it? You know, it's like. Or do you just continue with the. The path that you're on? And I think everyone deep down, everyone listening right now knows where they're out of integrity with themselves, where they're potentially out of alignment, where they're. Where they're coming up short in some capacities. Maybe there's some blind spots. Sure. And you can get help to see those. But I do feel people out there who may be stuck, if they did some deep introspection and they really did look in the mirror and ask themselves, are they proud of the person they see back at them and find out where you may be out of integrity, out of alignment, then you had the decision, first step in any change is awareness. So I do think it's possible. It's just you have to have the awareness, and then you have to have the discipline to make different decisions.

Yeah, I mean, I think that that's absolutely true. You know, we've used the word, or you've used the word alignment a couple of times. What does alignment really mean? Because I don't feel like people are even used to hearing alignment and then trying to figure out what that means. What does it mean to be in alignment?

I think it's different for everyone. But again, I think for me, what it means is.

I know clearly what success looks like, and I strive each and every day to achieve that with both my mind, my body, my heart, my soul in service of something bigger than myself. I'm aligned with this vision of success that I've predetermined is what I'm striving for. And my actions.

Are directly correlated with that decision. I'm in alignment with it.

So therefore, you actually get to take a step towards a life you love pretty much every day.

Exactly. You're building every single day. And here's the thing you can be happy within the hustle. And I found that out. You know, I found out that you don't have to have all the things that you're striving for at the other side to be happy right now. You know, true happiness can be cultivated every single day from within. You could find gratitude. Everyone can look down right now and if you have ten fingers, you, you can say, wow, I have ten fingers. I'm grateful. My dad, I just mentioned, chopped one of his off with a saw, you know, while working on the property in Montana. It's like, okay, you know, he's sad, he's lost a finger.

Yeah.

I mean everyone, he goes, I still.

Got nine left, let's go.

Exactly. You can be grateful for everything. And gratitude has a very unique way to shift your perspective. One from a path pessimistic vision of despair to one of optimism and hope. And you can find happiness within that hustle.

Yeah, no, that's so good. You know, I feel like, you know, and you know, you and I know some really successful people, like on the, on the surface level, right, they're crazy successful financially and you know, business wise, et cetera, entertainment and more. One of the crazy parts that I've seen inside of the community is everyone is moving away from this concept of success, meaning more money, more stuff, more accolades, more prestige, more, more, more, more, more. It seems like there's been a national shift, if you will, to begin to like, even as someone who obviously has listeners podcast wise and videos and clips and keynotes and all this kind of stuff, it seems to me as if there, there's finally an awakening happening where people are finally understanding that there's more to life than stuff. And the pursuit of stuff is actually the trapping of stuff. Meaning they're, they're so focused on, what do you call it, the stuff owning them rather than them owning the stuff, you know, and almost every one of our circles has been gravitating towards this service first mindset. Like, you know, finding your, finding your uniqueness to serve other people kind of scenario. And how did you find your unique way to serve other people? And you know, you know, kind of what steps have you take taken to get towards this heart of service?

Yeah, I mean, first, let me speak to your point. I do think there is this collective shift taking place. However, there's still a lot of pressure from society to achieve the materialistic things and to have all the, you know, financial success and the profit from multiple companies or big exits. And don't get us wrong you know, Steven and I both, I'm sure, enjoy nice things. You know, I enjoy nice things. However, they don't control me. That's not, that doesn't dictate my happiness. You know, it's, for me it's more important who I'm sharing these experiences with. It's more important how I show up in the world every single day. It's more important how many lives I can impact along the way. And I know it sounds cheesy and it sounds a little, you know, woo, woo, cliche, whatever, but it's the damn truth. You got to really look at, okay, what is my passion? You know, and when I realized this is a buzzword, but truly what I think, when I think of passion, I say, okay, what is my inward calling, you know, what is something inside me that I feel I need to share then?

Purpose, right?

Purpose is okay, that outward serving mission, right? So you have to think about, okay, I have this inward calling to serve this purpose, this, these groups of people. And then you ultimately want to make a positive impact, you know, you ultimately want to do it for the right reasons. And early on in my entrepreneurial journey, I've always been an entrepreneur in some way, shape or form.

I was doing it for the wrong reason, Steven. I was hustling so hard, 100 plus hour weeks, getting 5 hours of sleep all for my NYC tech startup with my brother and business partner and we were just grinding our face off all for this profit and success. And ultimately we achieved this seven figure VC funding deal, we got partnerships with Microsoft and IBM and I was unfulfilled, man, I was unhappy. I achieved the materialistic stuff. I had this five year trajectory for this huge tech exit for this really great idea for this algorithm we built that quantified feedback. But ultimately it was not aligned with my passion, it was not aligned with my purpose and it truly, it made an impact. But was it as positive as I possibly could? Probably not. And so I made a massive pivot and I think if you can understand where you're at right now with your passion, with your purpose and what positive impact you want to make and you really have to think about, you know, both of Stephen and I are both big fans of Brand Builders Group and you know, Rory and AJ Vaden and they have a really unique process to identify your passion, your purpose, your positive impact and how you can serve. And so I would just say you have to understand very simply, and this is BBG terms, what problem you solve, right? Who you solve it for and then what is your Uniqueness. And how can you exploit that in the service of others?

Yeah. What's the unique way in which you can solve that problem for others? Which is crazy to me, in a good way, because, you know, there is something special about lighting somebody's eyes on or lighting them on fire and watching them just awaken out of. Almost like. I assume you've watched the Matrix before, right? The Red and the Blue Pill and stuff like that. And you just watch them kind of like, oh, yeah, it's like. It's almost like immediately they. They begin to see tomorrow as an opportunity rather than something to just suffer through. Right. And when I created this show, specifically, I wanted to figure out the best way possible to take the top thought leaders in the world and have the top thought leaders in the world basically continually tell the audience, as part of this, this shift we're talking about, success can look like this, but it won't be meaningful unless it's partnered with this, you know, and it's funny, you know, I've. I'm over a hundred guests in. Right. You know, we launched the podcast, like, what, a year, A little over a year ago. Millions of downloads on YouTube and stuff like that, or views. What do you want to call them? Right. So I'm happy to say that we are making that collective shift. And as I continue to go through soul mapping and I'm looking through your framework, I'm seeing. Ooh, I've taken that step. Oh, I've taken that step. Oh, I've taken that step. Right. So for the audience benefit, let's just talk about self service for a minute or selfless service. Because I feel like most of us struggle with selfless service, right? Most of us. What does it take to finally let go of self in order to serve someone else? Well.

Well, I think you have to identify in which medium you wish to serve and also who you wish to serve, you know, because here's the thing. If you're not really, like, caring about the person you're serving, you're probably not going to be very excited to serve them.

Right.

So you have to find a cause that you actually care about, you know, and. Or causes. And I think that's a very important first step, combining things that you enjoy to do. I'll just give you an example. I work with a organization here in Montana. We do adaptive horsemanship training for special needs participants, teaching them how to horseback, ride and groom and saddle these beautiful and majestic creatures that I love. Right. And so it's combining things. You know, I give my Time. I give my money, I give my expertise in multitude of ways. That's just one example. I also like to automate my giving. And I think it's really important because we are busy, you know, a lot of people out there listening, have stuff going on. Right. You know, and you want to give, but you also, you know, you also want to do it in an efficient way. An efficient way I found is I allocate resources, funds, money every single month that just gets withdrawn from my account. Some goes to the Sea shepherd, you know, combating this ocean issue with whaling and illegal fishing. Kiva is another great app. Excuse me, Kiva. You can actually automate your giving where basically it supports these social entrepreneurs in third world countries and it just pulls from your account every single month. And then it's technically a micro loan, although I've never recalled any of the money. I want them to go start businesses. And that's how I believe we can actually affect positive changes. You don't just give a man a fish, which then they eat for a day, as the adage says. You actually teach them how to fish and then they eat for life. And that's what I'm big on. Um, I'm also been actively working here to support the Native Americans. I feel very passionate about that, that cause, you know, and it's like there's a lot of different opportunities to serve, whether it's the animal rescue or whether it's feeding the homeless. You can decide, but you just have to decide on your cause. And the selfless service is the s in soul mapping. So it's at the top.

Yeah, no, and that's why I wanted to bring it up too, because, you know, I, as I'm thinking through this and I'm kind of, you know, as I'm digesting your content and learning more and more about the process of soul mapping or process of become what? And really, soul mapping is a methodology to become meaning, have meaning and be fulfilled at the end of the day. Right. You know, and of course pieces of that are, you know, serving pieces of that are a lot of different things, you know, but as I'm thinking through this, I was this, this cause, like, what's your cause? I think that's a great question that we, that the audience can take advantage from from this particular conversation. It's the first time out of 100 plus guests that someone has actually said, well, what's your cause? Like what. What is the thing that you stand up for? What is the thing that you stand against? What is the thing that excites you and fires you up. What is the thing that pisses you off? Like, you know, I think hidden inside of those is the cause. Would you say that's true?

100%, man. I think you have to ask yourself better questions. And that's a great question to start with. And you know, for me, I'm starting a foundation, the Happy Hustle Foundation. One of my personal causes is to actually affect the education system. A lot of this stuff that we talk about, you know, soul mapping, the whole framework, I want to share this with the youth. You know, I feel like we need to learn these different areas of life. A lot of times we're taught things that are not very useful in school and it's.

A lot of times.

Yeah, a lot of times. That's a nice way to put it.

Meanwhile, we've got to. Meanwhile we become broken adults and spend half our life trying to fix ourselves from Know any better. Anyway, that's a whole different show, right?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So that's the S. You know, and I'm happy if you want to run through them all just briefly so everyone can understand what they are or.

Well, I want to. I want to, if it's right with you guys, want to focus on a few of them, obviously they can pick up the new book, Happy Hustle. Right. Which we'll make available. I'll link to the show and all that kind of good stuff like that. Guys, it's full of meat. You're going to love it. But for the sake of time, we could do a deep dive. We can do a one hour show in each one of these areas.

I know, right? I know.

Really, really easy. I want to go ahead and skip down to the U, if that's all right, which is unplug.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, right. So how. How important or why is it important for us to unplug and use that time wisely?

Well, it's more important than ever because tech is in our everyday lives. It's in our everyday existence.

These devices, they have addictive properties. As many of us know, we are consumed by our cell phones, our streaming shows, our laptops, our iPads, or tablets. You know that these devices are a part of our life. That's a fact. Now it's. Do we use them or do they use us? Are we being diligent?

Well, I can tell you, I can tell you what the social media companies think.

Oh, no, they, they, you know, they're geniuses. And, and we're outgunned by these companies with these brilliant minds. To.

Create these dopamine dumps that just have us wanting more. And, and listen again, let me preface all this stuff. I am not perfect. I am just a reporter of what I've seen affected in my own life. No, no one's guru, all right? All I know is just from my own experiences and the experiences of others I've learned from, this is a huge positive benefit in my life. When I control my devices, when I turn off my phone, 60 minutes in the morning and I meditate instead of going emails or whatnot, when I go to bed, 60 minutes before bed, when I disconnect completely and I just tap into my breath, maybe journal, maybe read. And then when I do a 24 hour digital detox on Sundays, my Monday is amazing. I'm so recharged, I'm so rejuvenated. And what people don't understand, and I think it's coming out more and more, although these companies, like our cell phone companies are suppressing this information, is these EMFs, these electromagnetic frequencies are actually breaking down our DNA, our cellular strands at the smallest micro level, they're having an effect. And you think about a microwave, microwave radiation. You wouldn't put your head up to the microwave, but that's what we do every day when we put a phone up to our ear. These are mini microwaves and they have an effect. And you see people, there's some people who are hypersensitive to these EMFs, who get massive headaches, they have anx stress and there's a lot of issues that come from it. And then there's some people who can withstand more. So but you do have to realize that you must use your tech wisely and start to create barriers.

No, I think that's so good. You know, I obviously I've got, they're not even young children anymore, right? I got a 24, a 21 and a 20 basically are my ages basically at the time of this recording or you know, I'm like three weeks away from my kids, like turning, you know, going to the next level. So that's exciting. Yeah, I mean, it is. I'm actually a grandfather, which is crazy to me. Yeah, man. I've got a five year old grandson and a brand new granddaughter. So yeah, it's pretty crazy. But you know, I thought, you know, I'm, I'm still a good, good little bit away from 50, but you know, hey, you know, we'll take it. Wow. Actually my wife would tell you that I'm actually closer to 50 than I am to 40 and technically, she would be right. I'm right there on the middle part.

But anyway.

No, but I mean, in all seriousness, you know, it's watching them grow up and seeing how connected they are. I'm like, one of the greatest. You know, one of. One of the things I've always told my kids specifically, is the importance of focus, right? You know, clarifying a direction and then focusing on it until that. Until that objective has been complete. Right. And.

The inability to unplug to me directly affects your ability to focus, right? Because you're constantly getting interrupted. You're. Maybe you're going to pray and meditate and then go, ding, ding, ding, ding. The phone goes off. You're sitting there trying to write your first book, and you're writing the page, and all of a sudden. But you got the notifications turned on, and your calendar pops up, and then your text message pop up and your email pops up. And, you know, when I started reading through your material, and I was like, man, unplugged, dude. I even. I still have to do a better job of that, and that's something I do intentionally, Right. You know, and I just feel like that's so important because I don't think people have an unplugged plan. Right. They don't have. You know, you live out in Montana nowadays, and it's a beautiful countryside, so you get to. You get to kind of be blessed with nature every single day, breathing great air. You know, we're not living in, you know, massive companies with massive. Massive industrial areas and, you know, that kind of thing. You know, I just feel like the people need to have a better understanding of. You got to figure out where you're going, what you're doing and who you're doing it with. And it's got to be something that recharges you.

Yes.

I don't know about you, but I'll get empty in a heartbeat. I work so stinking hard. Like, I. If I don't have a replenishment plan or if I don't have a way to unplug, dude, I am fried. We actually joked around we were going to do this podcast a little earlier, and you saw my eyes. You're like, dude, you're fried. What's the new let's do this later? I'm like, I love you. Give me a big.

Well, that's the truth, man. Like, you. You hit the nail on the head. You have to take care of yourself. You have to fill your cup before you give to others, you know, and for me, you're Right. Nature is that recharge. I love getting outside and just tapping into my primal, my primal sense, you know, that's actually the tenth alignment is nature connection. And you know, one thing I just want to mention, Stephen, each one of these different alignments in this soul mapping process and inside the book, we assess ourselves in each of these 10 different areas. Again, awareness is the first step to change. So you have to measure where you're at. And I use the grading scale of 1 to 5. You know, A is an or 5 is an A, 1 is an F. So you can kind of right now think about if you're listening and you want to be an active participant. That's where I get the most value. When I listen to podcasts and I watch YouTube and it shows, I actually take notes and I, and I implement what I'm learning. And so write down right now where you're at in selfless service, one to five where you're at and unplugged digitally, one to five. And then you could see, oh man, I'm a two. I need to make change. And for me, I actually measure myself every Sunday in these 10 different areas from last week. And then I look forward to the week ahead and I prioritize change accordingly. And that's the thing. Balance is not a finite destination. You know, it's a never ending journey. It requires these constant, you know, self quantifications and adjustments and tweaks and pivots. So you have to be diligent, go through these different 10 areas and give yourself a ranking and then prioritize change in these different areas based on where you're at and where you want to be.

That is so good. If I made. So I made lots of mistakes, obviously, going from where I'm at, where I'm at today, or where you all at where I'm at today. Right. But one of the main things that I did was I had this fix it and forget it mentality. Okay, I worked on it, I completed it, now I'm focused on the next thing. And what I just heard you say was, yeah, the fix it and forget it thing does not work. You're going to have to fix it, assess it, adjust it, and keep moving forward over and over again. And I just, it just dawned on me when you were talking through that that over the last five or six years, specifically, that's probably likely, say likely I've been even personally been able to get more momentum than the years prior to this is because I moved away from the fix it and forget it to, okay, look at it, adjust it, assess it, all that kind of stuff, man, that's profound.

Yeah.

It'S true, man. And here's one thing that I created to go with the book. And you know, this is something I realized speaking of unplugged, digitally, we're always connected to our devices. I wanted to create something to, to have these constant reminders. So I created this whiteboard fridge magnet. It's a blissful balancer, I call it. And it measures yourself in each of these 10 areas every single day. You have a daily action task that says, okay, did I put my phone away for 60 minutes this morning? Yeah. And then it's, it's binary. Yes or no. X. Did you or not. Like there's no gray area, you know.

I did for a little while.

Yeah, exactly. Like we have to be honest with ourselves. And that's the thing. This, this fridge magnet. I really hope that people who actually do buy the book get the actual magnet to go with it because we can read self help books and personal development books all day, but if we're not actually implementing the, the knowledge and the wisdom inside of them, then you're going to be stuck and we're trying to get to unstoppable.

That's right. That's right. Well, and that's also why I felt like if rather than cover the entire soul mapping process, we'd be here for six or seven hours. You already did all of that actually in the book, right. Where you break it down. And what the cool thing is about in the book is you don't just break it down, but you break it down in a tangible way that makes it easily accessible and actionable for the, for the reader. Which is another reason why I had to have you on the show is because I'm only trying to bring people on the show that I really believe can affect life transformation or life change, whether it's in the entrepreneur space, whether it's in the life space or the relationship space, productivity space. You know, one of the byproducts of your material is you actually become more productive even though you're taking more breaks. Which is crazy, right? I mean, you would think it would be the exact opposite of that. I am curious why was now like of any time in the history, right. The world's history, anytime of your career as a thought leader or a speaker, and why now was the time to write A Happy Hustle?

Well, truthfully, I've been writing this bad boy for two and a half years. It's been a real labor of love to all my authors and aspiring authors out there.

You know, it's a beast, you know, but I'm really proud of it. And it's not perfect. I believe good and done is better than perfect and never finished. And I'll write more books. However, I think the world is craving balance now more than ever. You know, this hustle and grind culture has caught up with a lot of people. And like me, they're experiencing burnout. And I burn out so bad. Yeah, man. Heart attack, stress, anxiety, overwhelm. It's just, you know, it's a shocking statistic. This is something I shared on stage, but I was blown away when I read this. There was a international research study done.

It was basically 140 countries polling all of their employees, their business owners, and they asked them, are you actively engaged, actively disengaged, or just disengaged? Like, they put you in these three different categories, meaning actively engaged with your work. You love what you do. Actively disengaged means you actively hate what you do. And you're like, you're working to, to get out of it or to change it. And disengage means you could go either way. You know, you're kind of in the middle. And what they found was two out of every three people internationally are not actively engaged, actually actively disengaged and unhappy, unfulfilled with what they're doing for work. And that was shocking to me. And it was a real, it was a real eye opener that this, this book needed to be birthed. People need to find happiness within the hustle. They need to make a pivot, they need to change their ways. They need to stop sacrificing their soul and their happiness and their fulfillment.

For profit and success. You know, you can find joy every single day in a different way. And so that's kind of why I wrote this book, is just to put it all together and you've touched on it, but I think it's really important to mention it again. There's a lot of people out there, man, who have this facade of success and put on. They stand in front of their Lambos that are rented most likely, you know, and then they, they have the yachts that are like their friend's yacht who actually works. You know, it is like this facade that like you get shown on social media is not reality for many people.

And I think it is really important to look at the holistic approach to happiness and fulfillment. And for me, it is both personal life and professional life. And that is what this book is all about is achieving blissful balance both in your personal life and your professional life. And avoiding burnout along the way.

No, man, I love it. Well, I want to. Before we close the show out, I got one more question. Because alignment number six has to do with abundance. And we've spent a little time talking about success looks like this, Success looks like that. Success looks like this. But when you start talking about abundance, you're like, wait a minute, we were just talking about abundance. Abundance means more than enough. That means I'm supposed to chase success, right? And you're like, not necessarily so break down abundance for us.

Yeah. So number six is alignment, number six is abundance financially. So I believe in order to truly be a happy hustler, you need to be financially literate. You need to know how to save, spend, invest wisely. For me, that was the absolute catalyst when I took my financial literacy seriously and realized, okay, right now, if you're listening and you don't know the difference between a stock and a bond, that's strictly because you haven't educated yourself. You're financially ignorant. Okay? You have all this different information, right at the touch of a button, right with your little fingers, you could go research everything. And financial literacy is what's separating you from financial abundance. Okay? First things first. Get yourself out there, Start reading financial books. Start educating yourself. I read books about taxes, I read books about money, Master the game from Tony and all sorts of I will teach you to be rich by Ramire Sethi. Like, these were some of these great intro books to money. And I look at money as a tool. It's a frequency, it's a currency that allows you to show more of who you truly are, you know? And for me, man, I don't want to live paycheck to paycheck. I don't want to live in fear of my finances. I've tried that. That's not, that's not a fun way, you know, I think there's a far better way to live debt free, to have so much abundance, where you can give to people you care about, the causes you believe in, and set up a system to save and invest and spend wisely. And again, I'm not a financial guru. I don't claim to have it all figured out. However, I have passive income streams. I have multiple revenue, different streams coming in every single month. And I've figured out a way to automate a lot of my finances through financial literacy. And so I think number six, the alignment number six, people think this is what happiness is all about, but actually, it's not. It's just one piece to the puzzle.

Yeah. It's one element. No, dude. Well, I've enjoyed having you, man. Thanks for spending so much time with me, man. And everybody go check out Happy Hustle. Where can they do that at?

Yeah, so you can go to thehappyhustlebook.com. we're actually running a promo. We're giving away the first thousand copies for free.

Rock on. There's that over server guy again. Well, I want it red.

Here's the thing. I want it read.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's important to me to actually read it. I'd rather spend my money, you know, and time giving it away. I mean, you got to cover shipping and handling, but basically, the. The book is yours for free. So you can go to thehappyhustlebook.com and then, you know, check out Stephen and I's episode where he rocked the mic on the Happy Hustle podcast. That was an amazing episode. He dropped hot fire. And also, you know, if you want to, just check out CarrieJack.com. like, that's just like, my catch all, my website where everything lives. So, yeah, brother, thank you so much for having me. This has been my honor, and I so appreciate you and your energy and your love and your light, man.

I appreciate that.

I really do am grateful for having you in my life. So thank you.

Likewise, my friend. Likewise. All right, dude, we'll see you on the next one, huh?

Oh, of course.

All right, buddy. See you. Peace.

See you, bro.

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