Intro to Overskill: Build Apps Without Code | Coaching Corner #042

Hey, hey, hey! Hello everybody, how's it going?

How's everybody doing? Pretty good.

We're doing great, doing great, doing great. I might still not have my voice back fully from FHL. Oh man, I, I'm sorry you guys weren't there, but it was electric. It was wild. It was so much fun. Um, for those of you joining, uh, we just had a big conference, Funnel Hacking Live. That was last week. A lot of cool things were shown. Uh, there should be replays that come out soon, so be on the lookout for that.

That's fun. You, uh, you gotta— are you wearing merch right now from this event? Oh, I am wearing merch.

I'm glad you noticed, Tyson.

That green looks familiar. I didn't realize you were wearing it till now.

What do you think this is from? If you had to guess, these aren't ClickFunnels colors. What colors do you think that is?

Uh, you might be spoiling something right now.

No, it's just a preliminary, I don't know, preview of what we're talking about. Obviously today's gonna be a fun one. We always have a fun one for you guys. And Rob's kind of giving away with his shirt here. We're talking about Overskill. We're talking about how to get you up and running with Overskill and at least walking through What's it all about? Sound like a good deal? Anything we mentioned on the topic, 'cause yeah.

I was gonna say Rob's basically understood the value of credits and overskill, so he's been transitioned over just getting credits every couple weeks instead of pay because he basically converts that into ROI. It's pretty incredible.

It's the new Bitcoin.

Well, okay, send that over.

If you can pay me in credits and I can build a business on Overscale and start selling that, isn't that more worth it?

Yeah, no, that's, that's fair.

Uh, I have to pay the bills. Can't pay the bills with credits yet.

Not yet, but you know what, it's probably gonna be the next crypto eventually. And, um, that's okay. That's, that's gonna be a fun time. Could you imagine? We have like—

it's gonna be like that movie. What was that movie with Justin Timberlake where he gave credits from his arm?

Oh, you had, you had so many days on your arm and based on what you were doing, they took certain amount of days away. Yeah, like that was the currency for like food and stuff.

I don't remember what that was called. Book a hotel with credits. It was— anyway, I know what you're talking about. So if you know what we're talking about, let us know in the comments. Maybe we'll send some credits your way if you can figure that No cheating.

Okay, it's gonna come to me right after we end this. It's all good. Yeah, but we're talking about getting started with Overskill, how to build apps with your words. All right, that's where we're at this point in life, which is crazy. We can literally speak what we are thinking into reality to some degree, at least getting started with it. And you can scale it from there. Obviously, things take time and tweaks and edits and stuff, but like, get a working product out there. Uh, with just you talking. It's kind of freaking nuts. Uh, yeah, I don't know. One of my favorite tools for that, by the way, if when you— we get into this, is going to be WhisperFlow. It's definitely, it's definitely high up in the list. I like being able to talk to, talk to AI, you know. It feels like I'm talking to a, I don't know, a dev team behind the scenes or something. It feels magical.

You're right. I just like when you're—

oh, sorry, we're talking.

I think my idea is just my ideas just flow out better when I'm speaking, right? If I have to like put my fingers to keyboard, I can do it, but I don't know, I forget words here and there and I can't like really express myself and go down a rabbit hole on the keyboard.

I like—

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I— that's exactly what I was going to say too, is I feel like there's something about When you're talking out loud, it feels more like free flow of like, oh, this is really what's on my mind. Or sometimes you don't even realize like that's like what you were trying to say. Whereas like when you're sitting in front of a keyboard, there's like this added pressure for some reason.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Well, every stroke takes effort, you know, that's, I think, keystroke. So Whisper Flow, not affiliated whatsoever with what we're talking about today, but it's super fun. Okay, so Overskill. We're talking about building apps with words. Overskill basically is— you said it really well earlier, Rob. Like, the way you described it, I feel like it just, it just hit home for me.

Overskill, it's an app builder. It's— it brings the imagination you have of whatever app you want to build to life. Yeah, and it's really easily— it's, it's an easy way to get started online, and it doesn't— it takes out the decisions of like what— you don't want to think about what database you're going to use. You don't want to think about where that data is going to be hosted. You want— you don't want to think about a lot of these different things that Overskill just kind of helps you with on the back— in the backend. And that's the differentiator between Overskill and some of the other tools out there where you can kind of build your app with words, build a— build an experience, you know, just with a couple words and a couple sentences. Overskool, just, it's been the easiest one to get started with.

Yeah, it creates like the, the signup page, the sign-in page, all the, the routing. You don't have to think about that. You just tell what you tell the baseline and it's like, okay, he really wants this though. He wants a fully functional app that logs people in, stores their data, makes it so you can transfer things back and forth easily. Like all you care about is what shows up on the front end, right? That's all. You really have to care about.

Yeah, you have an idea of what a new product you want to build, right? I had an idea of this product I wanted to build for my kids where it was, uh, you know, I wanted to make bedtime and reading books more interactive and more fun, right?

Mm-hmm.

So I built a— I built an application on Overskill, and the idea was I want to take pictures of the book, and as they read, the pictures move. So the pictures on the page, you You know, if they're playing ping pong or serving ice cream or whatever, like the ice cream will go into the cone or the ping pong will go across the table and you'll see the words light up as they read them.

Oh, that would be so cool.

It's not— it would be so cool. It is so cool. I built it on Overscale.

Oh, it exists? Oh, you gotta show that. OK.

I'm still fine-tuning it, but it's— that's the imagination. Like, that's your imagination coming to life.

It reminds me of like LeapFrog when I was younger, except it didn't animate.

It was just you click on it It didn't bleep in front of your face.

Yeah, that's what I feel like it—

That's, that's wild though. That's awesome.

That's fun.

Um, well, and I really didn't need to do much like outside of Overscale. It pulled in all the APIs that I needed. I pulled in all the animation that I needed. It was honestly— I was surprised at how easy it was to build this thing. I thought it was— it'd be much more complex. And you guys know I've been an engineer you know, for 15 years plus now, to build something like that before one, you know, before Overskill would have taken me at least a year. So much time, so many— yeah, so many bugs I would have to, you know, jump over and fix, and different use cases that I wasn't taking into consideration. Overskill just takes it all on for you, man.

This does pose an interesting question though. What do you think we shouldn't be using Overskill for?

Oh, yeah, no, you're right.

That is a good question. Overskill is— it's a great tool for an experience, right? Something you want to give to your users. Let's say, for example, you're a health coach, right? You're a health coach and you want to give your users, you know, a tracking tool or some way to communicate with them of this week's meal plan. Here's a grocery list and here's where you can track the you bought everything and the meals to make and all the interaction there. That's something you could build with Overskill. But then if you want to—

Like you read my mind, Rob. You know what? I got something for you. It's like we spoke.

Oh, is that what you built?

Oh, the instant smirk between Tyson and I too.

But the experience for your customers, something like that, that's what I would build on Overskill. Can you build anything? Yes. Can you build funnels? Can you build automations? Can you build emails? Absolutely. You can do that with Overskill. Should you? How I like to think about it is whatever you build on Overskill, you need to maintain. So if you wanna build all these things with Overskill, yes, you can, but then you have to maintain it. You become the product owner for anything that you put out to your customers.

Yeah.

Anything that you put out in the open is something that you will now be responsible for, that, you know, to make sure it's working the way that your customers expect it to work. So you're going to be support, you're going to be, uh, the onboarding team, you're going to be the QA, you're going to be everything. Whereas I like to run my funnels on ClickFunnels, I like to run my emails and automations and honestly my payments in ClickFunnels just because that's what the platform was built for. So anything around nurturing a list, you know, sending emails to customers, managing tags, like those things I do on ClickFunnels. And we'll get into this later on. We've been actually talking about making this a series of how to get started with Overskill and actually launch your app. But Overskill does connect to ClickFunnels pretty seamlessly. There's a pretty tight integration there. So it's pretty easy to do.

It was like one click too for that integration, um, which is crazy. But yeah, ClickFunnels makes the, the management of the contacts like just, I don't know, super easy. So you might as well just use what's already there so you don't have to think about that side of things as much. Just build it once and then let everything stay automated on that side.

Yeah.

And then the product itself, yeah, leave it in Overskill.

Let us know in the comments if you're, if you're already using Overskill, if you've connected connected it to ClickFunnels, let us know in the comments. I'd love to see, uh, what you guys are building, how you guys are building it, how you're finding, you know, how easy it is to build out these applications just through words.

Just the words. This is the Overskill dashboard. All right, I'm logged in already, but as far as like getting started goes, it's literally just go to the center of the page and you can tell what you want to do. That's it. That's all you have to do. This is like the starting point. All right, we go to the dashboard You click on New App, and now we're at the place where we can start beginning and creating that new product that you're going to serve for your customers. There's other places, other things you can use as well, which I found pretty cool. The templates area, pretty nice, pretty, pretty dang cool to have like a starting point for like a baseline for whatever it is that you're building. You got Contractor Sales Pipeline, cool. I mean, you could use that as like a starting point and then build on top of it, make it your own, adjust it, change the design, whatever you want to do. But you have like initial, like starting point for a lot of stuff.

What I love about these, and I hope this is right, and I think it is, but you don't like it. So this is a credit-based system, right? You buy credits. You, if you've used any other tools like this, it's pretty common. But whenever there's an action you want the tool to take, it costs a certain amount of credits based on effort, right? It's not, not one credit is attached to a specific monetary value. It's really just based on. The effort that the AI has to take to build the thing. So I mean, it's pretty cool that Overskill gives you all these templates to start with because you're saving tons of credits, right? If you, if you find a project that you can just remix or just build off of or on top of, you don't have to spend the thousands of credits to get started. They already have it for you.

That's actually really good.

Yeah, be an awkward time for Tyson to click it and like 500 credits to go down.

Do we test live? I don't know. No, I'm pretty sure that's what it's supposed to do though. I— there's only so much time. It takes all the time to create the app. Just because we have so much time, I'm gonna skip it for now, but just know that that is there. It's, it's a place where you can at least start from if you need to. Integrations, another good place to go if you have any specific other platforms that you want to connect with. This is— there's thousands of integrations here. So Yeah, how fun is that? I think it's like 1,500 total connections you can actually have with the platform.

Something insane.

Just to start off. Yeah, it's pretty cool. OK, for sake of time here, we're just going to use a prompt that we created here on slides. If we go back over here. Oh, what did I do? There we go. Here we go. we're going to build a CRM for a roofing company. Uh, the thought process being that when you're like, when you're the customer side of things for these types of services, you never know where you really stand in the production line, or you never understand where to find everything afterwards. Like, how do you stay updated with what's actually happening and what's, what's going to be done, right? Um, if we create a simple way to do that, that'd be really Really nice, wouldn't you say? If you're— especially for a roofing company, that's an example. Um, obviously you can use this for other things, other industries, but we'll copy this for now and we'll paste it into Overskill. So just copy paste.

So you're saying the overall premise and the idea of this is essentially like, let's say you're getting your, your roof worked on and you're in this portal, this CRM, and you're understanding exactly what's happening at any given time, like Okay, we have an inspector coming out, um, at this, this date and this time. And it's like, okay, inspector viewed it, here's the, here's the report. Uh, now we have this person coming out on this day. It's like really just keeping you in the loop across the board.

Yeah, that'd be great. I, I love that. I feel like most people would. Like, you're always in the dark for all that stuff. Um, or like after a quote's been done, what happens next? All that stuff. Like, that'd be nice.

Yeah.

Okay, I'm just gonna hit enter now, let it do its thing. And now the fun begins. It's literally going to go and take what we give it, create an outline as far as, you know, project baseline, the layout of the platform, what it's gonna look like on the backend database, how we're collecting things, how we're sending things back and forth, all of that. That's not— you don't have to worry about that. It's literally doing it for you. It might take a few moments for that to actually pop up and Do its thing, but it's thinking. It's thinking. But in the meantime, small shout out here, and I was doing this earlier too. While you're waiting, there's the ability to go and play a game. All right, we got asteroids here, and I am on the leaderboards as of right now. So just gotta maintain that real quick. It's still doing its thing in the background. Devin was saying it was like when your power goes out or your Wi-Fi goes out and you're on Google. and you played a dinosaur game. It's kind of like that.

Yeah, I told him it reminded me of— it reminded me of when I was in college, uh, in the, um— oh, my headphones just went out.

You're pretty good in college here. I had some pro— oh, you just— you had to say it, Rob. You had to put it out there.

I would think they should, um, when you're building a funnel in ClickFunnels, we should have the same experience, but the arrow with the funnel, the ClickFunnels logo.

Oh, that'd be so fun. Dang it, Rob. OK, you have any—

Sorry, my headphones had a malfunction where they just turned off for no reason, so that's why I just went silent. But what I was— yeah, what I was saying is the internet was always really bad on campus, and so we just kind of became keen to like, if you're in study hall or doing anything, you were on the campus Wi-Fi, there might just be a moment mid-sentence where the dinosaur pops up. And so we kind of made it a game to where we were just like, everybody was betting Battling each other to get on the board.

Nice. It's addicting. It's doing its thing. It might take a little bit for it to create everything. Obviously it takes time for all this stuff to come together, but let's show another example of one that we did right before this.

Well, as much time as this takes to do, you don't have to do anything. You just have to wait.

Yeah, I'm just sitting here. I'm not—

it's really—

I'm not doing any hard work right now. I'm just sitting here. I was playing a game.

This is the hard part, just waiting.

Yeah, I think, I think roughly what it took, roughly like close, I would say for the overall framework somewhere around like 40 minutes or so on the other one we were building. Is that right, Tyson? Roughly?

Uh, it was after a few tweaks though. I'd say within like 15 or so minutes we had like a working addition that worked, like that actually functioned, but I wasn't happy with where we were at that point, so The back and forth edits and stuff took a little bit longer.

And the crazy thing to think about is the fact that, like, from Rob's perspective as a developer, him saying, like, some of the things he was creating, you know, could have taken him years to develop. And it's like, dude, if even if it is an hour of your time, like, that you're just sitting there waiting, playing this asteroid game, like, that's incredible.

I will say, yes, a lot of fun. And there is, there is a little bit of danger And I want to be forward about this. There is danger with this power because now any idea you have, you can build, right? And I don't want people to lose sight of— don't stick with one thing the whole way through, but try not to build everything you think of.

Why?

One, because I don't know if you've seen Russell's image before about building bridges, like from where you start to success. And if you keep on building these bridges that just go halfway, then you're never gonna find success, right? So I would start with maybe 2 or 3 projects that you can really dedicate a lot of your time to. It used to take a lot more effort to dedicate, you know, attention to different things. Now I think we have the tools and there's a lot of AI, um, there's a lot of AI that you can integrate into your workflow to, to take on a lot more responsibilities. But I've seen people build apps they get really, really excited about and they like spend a month on it and then they're like, well, now I have a new really good idea. Like, this is way better than the last idea. And it's just, they keep on jumping from like one idea to the next, to the next, to the next. So give yourself enough time to really work on a project, to really like see it through and build it out to, you know, to your full vision and then even start marketing it a little bit.

And yeah, give it time to marinate. That's a good point. Like, you keep jumping ships, you're never gonna fully build one. That's kind of— that's right.

I think there's always— there's always this— yeah, I was gonna say there's always this point in like building something where like you— it finally sets in that like, hey, I actually have to do something with this. And you're at this like crossroads of like, okay, on one side you can actually do something with what you just created And try to make it work. And on the other side, it's like, I got 12 other ideas that you're trying to convince yourself is a better idea. But I think the truth is there's this fear involved at that crossroads that it's like, I could either see this idea through or I could just feel warm and fuzzy and reset and do something else. So I feel like that shiny object syndrome also exists, coexists sometimes with imposter syndrome at the same time.

But yeah, that's a good point.

That's a good point. Um, I did get confirmation that using a template costs zero credits. Oh, but when you add— when you start modifying it, that's when the credits start coming out of your profile.

I think they— I think they said at the bottom of it too, but for specifically for Tyson, each template is $5, right?

He has to pay us and then we enable the templates on his account.

I use too many templates, I have to. So, uh, okay, fair, whatever, I hear you. Maybe I can open up Overskill on another page here and I'll show you the other project while we're waiting.

How about that?

Overskill.

But people have asked and they're like, Rob, why would I use Overskill and not just use like Cloud Code or something? It's just a lot more work. Like, it's a lot more work to build this on Cloud Code and then you have to decide what kind of database you want, right? Where are you going to host it?

Where—

how are you going to test it? Then you have to build the, the marketing side, the, you know, the front, the entrance to your app, and then the admin side that, you know, where your customers go to track their progress. And you have to direct it so much more. This is literally built specifically to, to take the prompt that you gave it and build the best experience possible. And I mean, the not-so-secret secret is it uses Anthropic and uses ChatGPT and uses all those models on the backend. You can choose which model you want to use per prompt. You can choose the effort per prompt. You want to use Astra, go use Astra. It's up here. You want to use, you know, Opus or Fable, you can use it. So you don't need to stay with Claude Code or Codex, you know, in that silo of Anthropic or, you know, ChatGPT. You can just build on Overskill and choose the model that's right for the thing that you're about to use or build.

Yeah, I guess you don't have all these different subscriptions, just have one. That makes more— that makes sense.

You're telling me, you're telling me you could essentially use Overskill and host this app and have it like ready to go? We don't have to use any other tools if we have this app ready to go? They're building the admin panel and everything for us? That's crazy.

Selling. Okay, while it's still doing this thing for the roofing CRM, I built something before this call for, well, fitness. It's a fitness tracker, kind of what Rob was describing momentarily ago. Something for both clients and for the people facilitating that training, where you can go in and like you can create meal plans, you can go in and creates workout routines. You do all that and assign it to a specific person. Let's go to dashboard for this guy. This is going to be the actual user side, and it created this. That if you go up here to the top, if you were in Overskill, you can change what view you're looking at. So you have logged out, you have end user and admin, and you can see all the different pages that have been created for each of those different perspectives. And this is the client side, right? So if I were the coach and I went in and I wanted to assign like some meals for somebody and the ability for them to track their meals and also the ability to track their exercises and training that they've done throughout the week, right? I just created a dashboard, literally. I mean, it didn't take that long. I haven't put much in here, but now I can be on the coach side and assign specific meals to this person. So I go over here and go to their dashboard. There we go. I can log— oh, this is the client space. Let me go back over here.

Dashboard.

There we go. Now I'm going to coach view. Now I can see all the different clients I'm working with. I got 2 in here as a baseline. I can switch between the 2. I can see what their target goal is for their calories and overall protein consumption throughout the week. I can go and assign meals to them for lunch, dinner, snacks, whatever. I can go and build a workout session. Now that's not— I wouldn't say that's good enough for me to put out there, but let's say I want to expand on it. I can. I would love for like a nice workout library to exist, right? It's actually one of the suggestions down here. It's like after all the prompting, it's giving suggestions of next steps or next things that we can actually achieve here. Workout assignment catalog, right? Just like what we have for the meal. We have workout plan templates or meal plan templates. We have client progress dashboard. Like, all these things are great ideas, but you can add them one at a time if you want to, or go down here and say apply all suggestions.

How many prompts did it take you to build out this first version?

2.

2 prompts.

Yeah, yeah, 2 prompts.

Wasn't it essentially— it was essentially like one and like one small, one small tweak.

Yeah, at the— yeah, I'd say like the prompt itself was fairly detailed enough as far as what I'm trying to get. And that's also another point to make here for anything that you're creating. You want to be as specific as possible with what you want to be made. If you're being loose with anything around the design or around the core concept of the, the actual platform, you're not gonna get the result you're looking for usually. Like it'll go off and do its own thing. But if you, you wanna be as specific as possible around like the vision you have in your head, define like the design and feel that you want someone to have while they're on that page. Go in and describe what you want them to experience for the workouts, how you want the customer side to go through everything, right? Like label it out. That is important. So. I think that's why it turned out okay for the first prompt or whatever. That's, that's my perspective. Maybe you have a different take on this, Rob, or Devin, like, but that's, that's usually my go-to.

I, I think, I think that's, I think that's the truth because every AI is gonna have like their own base model. Um, and so I think the more descriptive you are, um, the more it's gonna kind of set you apart as far as like You and your business, you and your branding, like you and your actual product, right?

What I like to do is I like to honestly not funnel hack, but app hack, right? I'll go find an app that I use or I like and, you know, put my own spin on it. Like maybe it's a different niche that I go after and it's really specific for that niche, or maybe they have a— they don't have a feature that I really want, right? I can give an app or a website or whatever you want to call it to Claude and tell it to build me a prompt for Overskill, right? Yeah, it shouldn't be the only tool you use. I use Claude also, like, I'm never— I probably won't stop using it, right? I just use it for different things.

That's literally what we did for this one. So exactly.

I mean, that's, that's an incredible point too, is like, is if you have— the more examples you have too The more, the more the AI is going to be very specific to what you want. Like, if you're giving examples of sites, apps, whatever, for like branding colors, design feel, um, it's just gonna start getting more and more personalized at that point.

Yeah, um, that's kind of magic. Either way, just take the time to do that. The pre-work is where a lot of the work comes in too, so I feel like that's where most of the work comes from anything you build at this point, whether it's a funnel or an app. It doesn't, doesn't really matter at this point. Um, and we have an app. Okay, look at that. We have a preview going on over here for the roofing company. We're coming back to this. This is welcome to my app. We can switch views here at the top. Let's see, let's check out the dashboard.

Open settings.

There's nothing really in here yet. All good. What about client portal? OK, still building.

Live demo.

No, it's still technically in progress right now. It's not fully done, but it showed a preview. OK, I jumped the gun. I got 2 apps being built at the same time right now.

I mean, that just means we truly have to make this a series, right guys? I guess we'll, I guess we'll be back next week for, for another Overskill session.

Plan dates.

I'm, yeah, I'm curious, who is building with Overskill? Again, I said it in the beginning, say I'm gonna say it at the end, put it in the comments. We'd love to see what you're building. Hey, maybe I'm not giving out $10,000 like Russell was, but maybe we'll give out some credits. Show us what you're building, uh, we'll check it out. Maybe the best projects get a— we'll throw a couple of credits your way.

Yeah, Rob doesn't have any money anymore. He only has credit, so he can probably transfer some of his credits to your account.

And I will say, if you don't know what to build or you think you have ideas and you're nervous to get started, you can always join office hours, the ClickFunnels office hours. We can talk about Overskill also, but if you want more one-on-one experience and a more handheld session type. We do offer strategy sessions that we can help you get started with your app. If you have an offer that you don't know what to pair with it on Oberisko, but you know there's something that you can deliver to your audience, something you can deliver to your customers, let's, let's talk about it. I'll put the link in the chat where you can schedule a call with us to kind of learn more how to work with us directly. But It's, it's— this is the future. We are here. I, I don't know what's after this, but we are in the future now.

Yeah, fair enough. Um, you put it directly in there. Cool. Heck yeah. If you want to go hang out with us for open office hours as well, uh, this link right here will do you justice. Clickfunnels.com/office-hours. And that is Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Ladies and gentlemen, that's it. We'll be back. We'll show you the rendition of both of these as we come back next week. They're both working hard, but by the time we get back here, they'll be good to go and we can show you some other examples and maybe even talk about how we can position it and build it and get some customers. I don't know. We'll see how this goes. It depends on what you guys want to see. I don't know.

Let us know.

Alrighty guys, um, that's it. Thanks for hanging out with us. It was a fun time as promised, and, uh, we look forward to seeing you next week on Tuesday.

See you guys next week.

See you later.