Tips for Getting Out of a Funk and Back to Yourself

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This lifestyle podcast is for the everyday gal who loves to travel, talk about business, relationships, fashion, and everything in between. Hello friends, and welcome Welcome back to The In Between Pod. It is one half of the pod, Alexis, and the other half, Astrid. And today on the pod, we're going to talk about how to get yourself out of a funk.

Oh my gosh, we need this. I know I'm gonna need to listen to our own episode.

Me too.

Often.

Me too. Uptown Funk you up. If you are, if you are vibing with, with the funks, if you feel Like you're in a rut, if you're feeling stuck, if you've been feeling really anxious, feeling really depressed, like you feel like your mental health is taking a hit, you just feel kind of overwhelmed. It's a changing of seasons. This is the episode where we're just going to talk about the funks that— like, I am coming out a little bit of a funk and how we kind of navigate that. And just hopefully it helps you feel, one, not so alone. Because everyone walks through these things, even if they don't share it. And also, um, hopefully give you some tips that you could try to see if it could help you.

Yes, I feel like honestly we all go through them so often, we just don't share about them as much. And it really helps, at least personally, when I hear other people share about them and then how they approach them. So this is really more an episode of us sharing honestly about how we tackle the different funks in our lives because each ones are sometimes triggered by different things. And then for you to kind of take whatever resonates and whatever could help you.

Absolutely. Well, let's start with, you know, our in-between, our thing. I like how we call it— let's start with our thing. It is our thing. Okay, so we always start each episode sharing what we are in between. This is the In Between Podcast. And every week that Astrid and I record, we say something different, which is just so interesting. Like, we're always growing and in between different things. So my friend, what are you in between right now?

Yes, this is probably one of my favorite things of the week. Not gonna lie. I love doing our in-betweens. I love it. Okay, so I got pretty sick on Sunday and yesterday, and I'm coming out of it. And it happened right after a marathon of work. And so the interesting thing was either the last episode that we had or 2 before that, I shared on how much progress I have made in my work-life balance. And then here we go.

Right.

So pretty much I overworked myself. And then once I had one free day, my immune system was like, hey, we can breathe now. So now we're shut and we need you to rest. So we need you to sleep. And I was down for the count.

Aw.

So honestly, I just think that we don't talk about often how whenever we outgrow certain habits, sometimes they'll still pop up here and there. And my tendency was more to shame myself and be like, oh, I'm here again. But I really try to pull myself back and be like, okay, you know what? This was just one week that I went extremely hard. 2 years ago, it was a whole season, like a whole 3 to 4 months. And then after the holidays that January, I would usually get super, super sick. And so I was like, okay, I'm gonna celebrate the progress. I'm gonna realize like, okay, I let myself go for a week. And then I think it also just highlights the importance that personally, I don't think— I think we're more resilient than we believe that we are. And so whenever we eliminate those healthy habits that keep us grounded, keep us stress-free, even in stressful situations. Perhaps it's not about eliminating the stressors, but just making sure that we are focused and we're eating well, we're resting enough, and we're ready to go. And so, yeah, so I am in between getting myself back into my routine and healthy habits in the middle of a busy season.

Absolutely. I know I was literally just telling Matthew, I was like watching your stories last week. I was like, She's at a sunset shoot. She's at a sunrise shoot. She's at a sunset shoot. She's at an afternoon something, something shoot.

I'm like—

You were bebopping last week and—

I drove about 16 hours last week, which is wild. Wow.

Yeah. I'm proud of you. I'm sorry that you got sick. But it is interesting too. It's not waiting. It's not building a life so that things never go wrong. It's building a life and systems and habits that when things do go wrong, you feel like you have the foundations in, in place to be able to take care of yourself through that hard thing.

Yes.

It's not not having hard things to go through.

Yeah. Or eliminating everything and being like, I'm not gonna work. I'm not gonna, you know, have anything to do in life just so that I am not stressed, uh, stressed out. Actually, I have a lot more stress now than before, really. Or more craziness going on. But at the same time, I've just really focused on my mentality around it. And I've realized stress really puts a strain on your immune system and that's where things happen. So if you can learn to manage your stress, if you can learn to do breathing techniques and work out and really slow down at bedtime and really have a good morning routine, You can be so resilient to a ton more stressful situations than you think that you can.

I completely agree. It is like, I like how you said too, of not jumping to the default of like shaming yourself when you do get sick or you are trying to bounce back. It's like, honestly, even the topic of today's podcast episode of like when you are feeling, um, low or in a rut, like shaming yourself is not a good Motivator, right? It's not going to help you long-term. So definitely, definitely.

What are, what are you in between?

Well, I want to do an update for anyone that's been following along on my financial journey. Um, I am feeling so much more grounded in my spending and this is not my update, but, or like not my in-between, but like I think doing my no spend in September and then Matthew came home for good at the end of September and the last couple of weeks we've really been digging into our finances and like, spending trends and budgeting. And like, it's been really helpful for me to get really clear on how I want to make my money work for me instead of just like, I want it, I got it kind of mentality. And, um, I've just been noticing a big shift in like giving myself space to— I still look at clothes online. I still like, oh, there's an ad. I like that outfit. And I'll look at it, but I won't buy it anymore. I won't like, I won't go through the full cycle. And so it's like, eventually I'd love to not ever click on the ad, but we're making progress.

Yes.

Um, so I think that's like interesting and just everything that's coming out, even like the big Shein article that came out about how they pay and treat their workers, like Just in general, like my mind around consumerism over the last 6 weeks has just really evolved. And I'm feeling that in this season of like, oh, it's a new season, I must buy things for fall and winter. And just like, okay, I want to put these new values into practice.

And almost like rewiring your brain to your defaults, default habits.

Literally. And the biggest thing is, is like, and I noticed too, like when Matthew and I would talk about certain financial things, it was incredibly emotionally triggering for me. I've realized like how much healing I actually have to do around finances. Like, and I really didn't know that until we got deeper into it. I was like, whoa, there is some, there is some like trauma here or just some mindset things that are really deeply rooted that I need to, um, you know, give myself some space to grow in and like really dig into where these come from. Because I hopefully have a long life ahead of me. And I don't want to feel this way about money. I don't want to be so triggered by spending, not spending, spending too much. Yeah.

And that's amazing too that you have so much self-awareness around how you feel about money. I think sometimes we can tend to say money is an object, so I am just going to kind of close off those doors of the feelings. But really what I've loved about watching your journey is inviting that, um, kind of stopping for a second and being like, okay, why do I want to purchase that? Or why am I suddenly like not able— or what do I, what do I feel whenever I say I can't spend for a whole month? And really digging into all of that suddenly gives you answers of where that might have come from. And so we all experience that in different ways based on how we were raised or taught about money. And that's a whole Really cool conversation we should have on, on a, like a different podcast.

Yeah.

Um, but I love how much intentionality you've had on it and self-awareness in an area that most people wouldn't bring emotional awareness to.

Well, I think it's, everyone has different relationships with money and mine happens to be a really emotional one. And so I think it's just natural for me too, because it's not, this is just who I am, but I'm like, okay, there is something way deeper here going on. Yeah.

Mine's like scarcity. Like I just think that There's never going to be enough money. And then I just freak out and I want to hold it. And I'm like, I will not spend it. Or I will just make sure that those savings are really racked up for that really rainy day.

Love that for you. At least in terms of savings perspective, that's fantastic. But it's the mindset that got you there.

Yeah. And it's hard when taking risks. It took me forever to quit my job because of that.

Right, right. And so it's like there are elements to it where it's like, I want to live a fun life and I want to like, you know, I want to experience things and experiencing things like travel costs money. And so I'm like, I would gladly swipe my card for that. And it's like the travel isn't the root of, you know, the bad thing or whatever you want to call it. And like you having A great rainy day savings is not bad. It's like what got us there. It's the mindset.

The feelings.

It's the feelings that led us there. Oh my gosh, girl. And this came up in therapy for me whenever I was in Nashville and I didn't even realize it, but I was in this cycle where if something was triggering to me or I was going through like an emotionally traumatic time, I would book a trip. I would run. I would literally run away by booking a trip. And then that obviously impacts your finances. Right.

Yeah.

But then it's like, well, now I'm on this trip and so I'm here and so I need to spend because I'm never going to be here again.

Enjoy the location.

Exactly.

I'm never going to be here again.

You know? Oh my gosh.

And it's also kind of what we're taught to do. It's like catch flights, not feelings, or like I'll never be 27 years old again, but I am in whatever country. And in a sense, like if we're never taught great coping skills or mechanisms, then we're going to just default to whatever it is that we have been taught around us is how you should cope. Some people will cope with a lot of work. Some people will spend money. Other people will just, I don't know, go out a whole ton. There's different ways to cope. But yeah, I'm so proud of you and your journey, and I can't wait to see where it takes you.

Me too. And you know what? That'll be my in-between. We'll just— I was like, this isn't mine. And then it is.

It's fine. I love it. It was a good one. It was a good one.

Yeah. Um, all right, let's talk about being in funky funks, not funky fresh. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry, I'm like so cheesy. It's also at the end of the day, so my brain is like, we are slap happy. I feel like we mostly record whenever we're in these moods, so you guys get the best of us, truly unfiltered. Um, okay, so So my question for you, and we can kick it off here, is how do funks, feeling stuck, feeling in a rut, how does that manifest for you? Because I feel like it kind of manifests for different people in different ways.

That's a really good question. I feel like feeling stuck or in a rut for me manifests in a freeze mode, and I will ignore things, and I just feel kind of paralyzed, kind of numb. And then I have to catch myself in those feelings and pull myself out of there, which feels really hard to do because you're kind of numb towards it. It almost feels like a big cloud over your head, and you're just like, how do I get out of here? Right?

Absolutely.

So whether— and it could be work, it could be a different area of my life— that's my default. What about you?

Honestly, same. It's like whenever you're at the airport and they're like, sorry, we cannot take off due to fog.

Is that what you tell your brain? I literally—

it's like, we may not take off because we are experiencing some fog. It's like completely, sorry ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna have to deplane. That is literally what my mind does. It's like, I feel the immobilization. Everyone off the plane. We're gonna have to reschedule this flight for 3 to 4 business days.

Literally 3 to 4 business days. Like, by the weekend I'm good to go. I'm like, I will conquer the world. And that's the other thing that I've noticed is when I go into freeze mode and I get out of it, I will overcompensate and I will work like a maniac.

Yeah, that's a good point.

I will like deep clean the house because I'm like overcompensating because I feel guilty.

Same.

Oh my gosh, it's crazy.

It's like a yo-yo. Yeah, it's like there's the pre-funk The funk, the post-funk, and then like back to normal life.

The funky funk.

The funky funk. Then there's the funky funk.

Come and learn with us.

Oh my gosh. These are all technical terms. You'll find them in the dictionary. Pre-funk. Okay. Pre-funk is like, okay, something feels off. I'm just kind of feeling like something's not right. Or like I'm feeling really tired. I'm feeling really frustrated. I'm feeling unheard. I'm feeling overwhelmed. There's a lot of different things that can sometimes get us into a funk. Or you see someone or like a conversation happens. Someone says something to you. Something traumatic happens in the world. Like there are so many things that can influence a pre-funk. And then you're like, you sit in it and then it like turns into a funk and the funk takes root and you're like, okay, well I am completely— So this literally happened to me yesterday. Woke up. Slept through all my alarms. And for me, I, for the last 4 years, have been journaling— journeying through depression. And how depression manifests for me is sleeping a lot and never getting enough sleep and oversleeping and always feeling tired, even though I've slept like 10 to 11 hours. So I slept through all my alarms, woke up at 9. I was like, okay, I got to get to work. It's Monday. I gotta go. It's a Monday. You know, so there's like my mind is like, ah. And then work, have meetings. And I'm like, okay, I don't have any meetings for the rest of the day. Let me work horizontal. Let me like— we're going down. And I feel like most of my funks are me horizontal. I'm like laying in bed or laying on the couch or just like not up.

Yeah. So something like cozy to like just hold you in the funk.

I need to feel comforted. I need to feel held. I need to feel held by the couch.

I do too. I do too. That's my default is the couch.

There's something about being horizontal when you're in your feels or like just something's going on, um, that feels really— and then like the post-funk is like the knowing that you're in it and you want to do something to get yourself out of it. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. I feel like the overwhelming feelings, at least for me, is sometimes in the pre-funk, you don't really notice why it's coming on. You just feel those heavy feelings and you're like, oh no, brace for impact.

We're going to hit the water.

Yes. And then when you're in it, you're almost, at least for me, frustrated because I'm a very proactive person. I want to solve the problem and I'm like, let's get it going, right? And so if I can pinpoint why it's happening, then wonderful, I can fix it. And I want to fix it. And one thing that I've learned is you can't fix your feelings or your emotions. And one thing that I wanted to say about funks is I feel like freedom comes when we learn to embrace the funks as part of life and as teachers of life and teachers to us and what we're feeling, what we're going through. And so rather than this horrible negative thing, perhaps this low moment of our life is going to teach us so we can go into that next high one.

Yeah.

And so a lot of times we're just taught to be always in that high, and it is so unsustainable and it is not real. And real life is you accomplish something and then there's something else, there's another mountain to climb, and you're going to get stronger and stronger each time, but you're only going to get stronger through increasing that weight, quote unquote, and, and like going into something that's unfamiliar.

Yeah.

And so I think like having a little bit of a softer approach to it, a more gentle approach, like, okay, I feel the funk coming. What is it teaching me? Like, I'm gonna give myself some space and time. And then how can I create some space and time to just sit in this, to ask myself some questions that can maybe help get me there and really embrace that process rather than resist it so much and just be kind of like really frustrated at it.

Yeah, I love that. I think that's so big. And I, on Sunday actually, I was listening to a podcast by the Psychology Today— I think it's called just the Psychology— Speaking of Psychology or the Psychology Today podcast. Anyways, it's a great— it's a blue cover art if you're curious. And, um, I was listening to a podcast on the science of happiness. And there's this— there was this professor at Yale who had a class for students around like how to be happier. And anyways, it was a really interesting study. And they, at Yale, they, they polled the happiness score of all the students. And I think it was like 65% of them said that they were depressed and anxious. And this was in 2019. This was even pre-pandemic.

Wow.

And so she talks about this class. And so they ended up having to— she thought she might have 30 students sign up. And I guess almost half of Yale's student population signed up for the class. They had to actually put it in like an auditorium or like a stadium or something so that she could teach it. So she's talking around like, how do we How do we cultivate more happiness? And she was saying, and exactly what you were just saying, it's not the pursuit of only positive emotion. It's recognizing that negative emotion in our minds and our brains is a part of the human condition. And so it's not saying, how can I never feel sad? How can I never have a funk? How can I never feel depressed? It's like, Normalizing that, not staying in it.

Right.

But building systems and habits and mindsets and support in your life that are going to help you navigate when those times do come because they are so natural. And I think sometimes, like even yesterday, I laid on the couch, worked all afternoon on the couch, and then at like 4:30, I was like, okay, we're going to put on The Watcher. Which, by the way, not great for anxiety. Are you kidding me? You're like, I don't feel great, I'm gonna watch a murderer, I'm gonna watch a psycho thriller. Terrible. Okay, but by the way, it's very, very good and you should watch it. Um, but it's like, even that, like, that was not a good system. I'm already feeling anxious, I'm already feeling in a funk, and then I like I surround myself with a movie or whatever that made me feel even more anxious and paranoid. So it's like, okay, how can we make choices that are actually going to be supportive of our mood instead of like keep us there or even sometimes make it worse? And I think that's like where we have an opportunity to give ourselves some space to, um, and responsibility of like, am I helping myself here or is this actually making it worse? And like, where do I have to take ownership for that? And then when I went to bed last night, I was like, you know what, I really shouldn't have watched that. Genuinely, like, that was not helpful for my mood. I did it, it's fine. Like, the show is good, but it's where I was mentally that I'm—

Why you did it. Yeah, why did I do that?

I know, it's like putting yourself back into Anxiety when you're feeling anxious. It's like you're just seeking more of the negative feeling.

Yeah, yeah. And it's also like a, like a learning opportunity. And I feel like if we were to look at each situation as what can I learn from it, right, then suddenly we view it as a positive, right? So now you're more equipped for your next funk because you're going to be more aware of your habits and you're going to be like, okay, remember that thing that we did last time? What do I choose to do this time?

Right.

And so it's still, even though you chose something that at the end of the day you were like, I wish I wouldn't have done that, you still stopped at the end of the day and reflected and chose to learn from that experience and are like, okay, next time this is what I want to do.

Right.

And so I think like each interaction really just is there to teach us something and speak to us if we, if we, um, let it. And at the same time, if we like go deep and try to figure out what's going on, and we're like genuinely, I'm in a funk, and I don't, I can't seem to find the why. And I feel like that's still another layer of exploration. Like there could be, you know, maybe you're needing more sun. Like you might find in the wintertime, if you're listening to this podcast way later on in the wintertime, I've experienced that I'm very sensitive to the sun. And so as someone who grew up in Miami and now lives in the Midwest, in the wintertime, if I don't get enough sun, I start feeling a lot heavier. And it has nothing to do with what's going on in my life or nothing to do with how I'm perhaps feeling like in my emotions. It's just my environment. And so, you know, I would also just invite it to kind of check like all these different aspects of your life, not just like trauma and triggers, but then also work and relationships and movement and nutrition and sunlight and all of these different things that really do drive our quote unquote funks.

Yeah, I agree. And it's like sometimes you won't always recognize the why too. And I actually just shared on social media today of just having a low mental health day. I like to share that on social media because it normalizes that we all feel this. It's not saying that this isn't okay or that like, you know, I don't want to feel this way. It's like, hey, I feel this way. I share a lot of my life on social. It just feels like a normal, natural thing for me to share. And it always, it always opens the door for such meaningful conversation with my community online. Um, and so I had several people who were like, I felt the same way the last couple of days and like just felt very like seen in that. And one person in particular reached out and they said, I always want to know why I feel this way so that I can fix it because I only want to be able to fix things. And like she said, essentially, I don't always know the why and sometimes I need to be okay with not trying to Yeah. And just focus on like moving forward.

Yeah.

And knowing that I'm going to be out of it at some point.

Yes.

And like, I don't need to always identify the root, uh, because I maybe I won't know. And like, you don't always have to find meaning in every funk too. It's like sometimes you just might, you know, have an off day or an off week and then, okay, now we're moving forward instead of like, why does this keep happening to me?

Yes.

Because I, I can get into that.

Tell me the answer.

Why? Yeah, for sure.

And sometimes the answer doesn't come until a long time later, right?

Yeah.

Like, for me, I've went through a huge healing period between 2020 and really till now. And that whole season for me was like, there were just heavy days that I couldn't explain in that direct moment what was going on. It was just a heavy day. And I needed, I needed space and I needed to not be surrounded by people and I needed to cry and I needed to just feel the feelings without any whys behind it and not rationalize everything. And then now, like, 2 years through it, and now that I can look back, I can just recognize it was just layers of grief in general, just grief. And then grief, just, you can't explain it. You can't, put rhyme or reason to it. It just is, and it's very personal. And so yeah, I think just embracing the fact that it's okay to feel these feelings, they don't always have to have a meaning, and perhaps there will be a meaning down the road.

Yeah, I honestly agree because it does take time to realize why we react the way we react and why we cope the way we do. And it's like we're all on these different healing journeys depending on where we're at in life and what we've experienced. And we can't always make meaning in the moment. Like, sometimes meaning happens whenever you're reflecting on it. And I think that's why it's important to try to move forward and not get over it, right?

Yeah.

Like, I need to get over this funk I'm in, or like, I feel so stuck, I just need to get over it. It's like, okay, I think there are ways that we can move forward when we're feeling stuck or when we're feeling in a funk. So, um, I'd love to like kind of wrap up the episode by sharing some of the things that we do when we're feeling, um, in a funk or feeling stuck.

Yeah, for me, um, the first is like getting ready. Like, that to me is a default thing where whenever I'm in a funk, I do not want to get ready. I am in my comfiest clothes ever. So if I can get myself to just go and put on a cute outfit, get ready, and then honestly just leave the house for a bit. Like I mentioned earlier, sunlight is huge for me. So if I can go for a little walk or even just go grab some coffee, grab my favorite cup of coffee, go to Starbucks, come back, then I already feel so much better. So those are some immediate things. I think the biggest one for me is journaling. And asking questions and just kind of doing some checkpoints to make sure that there isn't something that I do need to dig a little bit deeper into. And if I do those checkpoints, um, so for example, I'll ask myself, when did this start hitting me? Was there something that happened at that time or something that happened in the past few days that kind of like led me there? If so, then what feelings did that cause in me? And if it's a no, then I can just think about— Okay, in the past week, is there anything that has felt specifically overwhelming, or am I avoiding anything? Because I know those are my triggers, is avoidance. So if I go through those questions and I feel like they're genuine nos, then I just kind of embrace the funk and just kind of trust the process. Get ready, step outside into nature, get active are big things for me. Eat a nourishing meal, because in funks, I'll tend to just want to get fast food type of— get tacos is my go-to.

100%.

So, yeah, those are my main things. Like, get ready, get sunlight or be active, and then do some journaling, asking myself questions to dig a little deeper. What about you?

Honestly, very similar. Journaling, getting ready. I got ready this morning. I was like, we are leaving the house. I don't even care how many calls you have today, Alexis. Like when I have heavy call days for work, I like taking them from my home office because my coworking space, I don't have a dedicated place. I have to like go to a call room for them. I don't have my dual monitors, but I was just like, I don't care. I don't care that like the workflow isn't going to be exactly what you want it to be. Like you need to get out of the house.

Yes.

So I think sometimes we can talk ourselves into why we can't sometimes do the things that are helpful for us when we're trying to get out of a funk. And I was like, okay, we need to do some tough love because I know not having your dual monitor, I know that's inconvenient, but sorry, your laptop works just fine.

Yeah. Yeah.

So that helps getting ready, talking to a friend, or even just saying like, I am in a funk.

Mm-hmm.

Naming it, like being like, I am feeling very low today. I've had a low couple of days. I'm feeling a little off. Like verbalizing that to your partner, to a friend, to a trusted family member, like that even in and of itself can invite someone into that support process with you and like not make you feel so alone in it.

Mm-hmm.

And then movement as well. How am I nourishing myself? Am I like Am I emotionally eating? Am I emotionally like trying to comfort myself? Am I emotionally spending? Like, how has my behavior changed? And like really trying to nail down that. Another thing that will sometimes help too is revisiting like what my mission is. I know that sounds kind of like, I don't know, but it helps me. It's like, okay, Why am I here? Why am I here? Where am I going? Um, and whenever I reacquaint myself with that, it does make it feel like, okay, you're gonna be okay. And that's actually like my biggest— even today, that's like a verbal thing I say to myself in the mirror. It's something I say to myself, um, a lot when I'm trying to work through things. It's like, you're gonna be okay.

We're, we're gonna be okay.

We're gonna be okay.

Yes.

You know, and it's not in any way like trying to make light of some of the dark moments. It's just like reiterating the fact that like we're still here.

Yes.

We made it through all the other stuff and like you're— we're, we're gonna be okay. Um, I think we can kind of like get in a funk and we're like, this is just my life now. This is just who I am. I'm here again. This is just where I'll always be.

Identity. Yes.

We make it our identity. And so I think it's another important element to remind yourself of who you are, how far you've come, and that this isn't your forever. It's just happening right now and it doesn't define you.

Yes. So powerful. I love what you said about going back to your mission and your why, because I think if you're able to really have a clear why, have a clear plan that you've designed maybe in those high moments, then on those low days that you have a funk, And you still have things to do that day for to be able to execute that plan, then you might feel low, but then you tie it back to your why and you'll be able to kind of go through it and be like, okay, but this is why we do it. And in my high moments, I already pre-planned everything that I needed to do. So we're just going to focus on these 2 tasks on hand and move forward. Kind of like you do with your meal prep, right? You're like, hey, today might be a low day, but Sunday, Alexis already planned all the meals for this whole week. So we're still going to nourish ourselves and we're going to just stick to the plan, grab it from the fridge. I might eat it, you know, and be like zoned out, but I'm eating the nourished food. So I think like having that clarity and that plan helps so much for those low moments as well.

That's a good point. Like, um, being able to lean on your foundations, like leaning on your systems that you've created in your life. The rhythms, like the meal prep. Last night I definitely wanted to DoorDash. DoorDash even sent me a message.

How dare they? It was like, hey, we have a hot new deal, $5 off.

I was like, shit, I love a deal. I love a deal. I'm saving money.

On like your $70 delivery bill.

Literally, DoorDash is so expensive in the city. But yeah, so those, those things helped me. And, um, I hope that this episode was helpful and kind of made you, uh, feel not alone. We're right there with you. Is there anything else you wanted to add before we wrap up?

Um, not really. Just be, be loving to yourselves, be graceful to yourselves in those low moments. I think we can be our biggest, um, bullies sometimes, and I think just Using those lower moments to learn and invite love to yourself can be such a powerful thing. Even if you don't know why you feel that way, just accept the feelings, know that it's okay to feel them, and then just figure out how to move forward. Um, and if you still feel like you can't take that next step forward, reach out to someone. If you feel like it's been a few days and you don't know how to do it, lean on your community.

Mm-hmm.

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