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In this short conversation, Bill Brown explains how he expanded his HVAC company into plumbing after eight years in the business. He highlights that having a membership base creates a stronger relationship with customers, allowing him to cross‑sell plumbing services such as water heater installations, underground work, and other plumbing needs, which dramatically raises customer lifetime value and retention. He also discusses the strategic use of water sensors—placed in water heater pans, under kitchen sinks, in attics, or any area prone to leaks—to detect freezing or leaks early, providing added value to members and reinforcing the multi‑trade service model.

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