Alba Monn- Her NDE With Her Daughter Saved Her Life- Part 2

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This is part 2 of my interview with Alba Mon. If you haven't listened to part 1, please go back to the previous episode and listen to the opening. This experience with Alba is how her unborn child was born. And they shared a near-death experience and how it saved her life and led her to a life of forgiveness. So, if you haven't listened to part 1, please go back and listen to part 1. And with no further ado, here's part 2. Yeah, yeah, I can only imagine how tough that, that had to be. Um, wow. So what do you think the purpose of this experience was, of, of, of Aurelia's coming to you and, and this, this whole thing that you went through? Do you think that, that serves a purpose, my near-death experience with her? Mhm.

Yes. Yeah, I think to me the purpose was pretty clear because she— I realized that she had been without a heartbeat for more than an hour. So she was on the other side for quite some time. And in my understanding, she was given a choice if she wanted to stay or if she was prepared to come back for some time, or a small timeframe, to try to change everything for the better. And the situation when she was actually dead was before my emergency operation. And I was still in the process of dying. And between my emergency operation and my NDE, I always had flashbacks of my husband having a deadly car accident on his way home. So because he was on his way home in the, in the night, it was raining, it was dangerous, and he didn't get any sleep for a long time. And he was sleepy. And I have this concept that if she hadn't come back, I wouldn't have had the, the NDE, I wouldn't have had the second operation because I had a second emergency operation right after my daughter had died. Because they had to check on me before they would let me go to the other clinic to see her for one last time. And so they found that there was so much fluid in my body that they had to operate again and try to stop me from bleeding to death. And my concept is that my NDE was actually my only help that I got in a situation where nobody could reach me. And my daughter decided that she would give us some more time to try to change the whole situation so that it would not be destructive for both of us, for not even me, because I would be dying in the clinic without anyone noticing. And my husband could have had an accident, maybe, I don't know in what timeframe, but I guess the same day. So I had two older children and they would have not only lost their sister, but also their mother and their father. So they would have been orphans within a day and would have lost 3 family members. And I think that was the way it was supposed to be or was going to happen. And she decided to come back and, and change first of all, the moment of her death. So she would come back for a couple of hours to to reach me and to change my attitude. Because if I would have got the message of her death in this attitude of anger and hate, hatred, and all these accusations that I had, it would have been detrimental for my spiritual survival, to be honest. Even if I would have survived, I would have accused my husband for the death of our daughter for the rest of my days. And when I was in this realm, feeling those 4 emotions, love and, and grief and remorse, and this desperate, desperate feeling that I want to be forgiven. I realized that the grief was in the future. It started now, but it was stronger in the future. And I sensed that there was something like a very heavy burden in the future that I would have to carry. And I was grieving about that. I think It was also something in the future of my husband and my children, of course. So all of this was changed with my near-death experience. And my daughter tried to make me understand in the telepathic discussion first. And I think if I had understood what she wanted, and if I had forgiven him, the rest would have never happened, it would have been easy for her. It felt like when you start a car, and you take the gear to the first, to the first gear. And it's just starting to go. And that's how easy it was for her. As it felt to me, the telepathic discussion was the easiest way for her to reach me. And then all the other changes were always harder for her or for me, I don't know. It was harder. It felt like second gear was when she appeared and it freaked me out. And she saw that it was not doing any good. And so she tried to change the setting, I think, with this whispering sentence that she said, trying to reach me so that I wouldn't fall asleep, because I was about to fall asleep out of a loss of strength. And then in this realm, in, in eternity, I saw the truth. And later on, I called it like the Chamber of Truth or a Hall of Truth, because everything that I saw was the truth that I didn't want to accept. But that was presented to me in a way that I finally understood. And the last scene, just before transitioning through this gate, through this wooden fence, I felt like it was gear number 4, it was going very fast. And I, I, if I would have been a little bit faster, I would have just gone through this fence and been on the other side. And so I was catapulted back before that could happen. And it, it wasn't my decision. But it was a decision in my best interest, and also in the best interest of my children. Because when I heard that the doctor told me that Aurelia had died, I remember thinking, I want to be with my child. And if she's dead, I want to be dead also. That was the first thing that came to my mind. And then within seconds, I realized I can't do this to my two older children, because they would be in my place, they would be exposed to all these feelings and difficulties that I felt too weak to encounter. To be honest, I felt too much for me to go on. And then I realized I can't do this to my children. And that's when I decided I have to stay strong and stay alive and get well again to take care of my children, my young children, because they were pretty young at the time.

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Yes, that's true. That this day that changed my life forever, and it was actually two difficult instances within a few hours. The death of my child and the near-death experience, which was a huge help on the one hand, and on the other side, it was a tremendous difficulty because I couldn't tell anyone about it. I couldn't tell anyone in the clinic, and I couldn't tell anyone at home. I didn't want for family and friends to know what had happened, what my husband had done. So there was no way to explain it to anyone. And The thing that consoled me was that I had 3 different dreams before Aurelia's birth and death that had warned me, and unfortunately, I hadn't understood what they meant. One of them was even 8 years nearly to the day before she died. And so it was just a couple of days away. And I had written it down because it was so it felt so special and extraordinary that I thought I have to write this dream down so I wouldn't forget it. I didn't understand anything about it. But it showed me the details of the emergency cesarean section. So I had a hole in my, in my belly that was the size of a fist. And you could look through my body. And then there was a little a little silver thread coming out of it that was pulling me along. And so there were a lot of different details that reminded me of her emergency operation, of, of the grieving process. For instance, I got two messages about physical healing and emotional healing. And I didn't understand any of it because I didn't know what what incident was it was pointing to. So there was nothing in my life at the time that made any sense in this dream. But when I found it a little bit after Aurelia's death, I was shocked. I was so astounded that so many details were so clear and described what I was going through 8 years later that I realized that this was unbelievable, to be honest. And at the same time, there was one angel with a sword. And it said, I never saw him. So I had written down, I never saw his face, but he touched my belly very, very softly. And he wanted to warn me and to console me. So this was obviously before the pregnancy was over. So even during the pregnancy, there was obviously an angel trying to console me and warn me, and I just hadn't understood what it was all about. And The second dream started when I was about in the fourth month of pregnancy. And it recurred every week. And it was horrible because in the, in the beginning, I didn't think this something like that was possible. It was in the middle of the week. And I think it was Wednesday, anytime. Anyway, I had 3 or 4 days that I was afraid of this dream to come again. And then I had 3 or 4 days after it when I was just recovering from the shock of it. And this dream showed me I was standing at home in my living room, I was standing with my pregnant belly. And out of my belly button, a very tiny baby came out. It was so pale that I understood at once that it wasn't really able to be healthy. And I tried to put it into something that looked suitable for, for her to be kept in so that would, it would remind her of my belly. And I went into the kitchen. And I put a soft cloth in my salad bowl. And I put the baby inside and draped the little cloth around her and around her head. And I was looking at her, totally startled what this should mean, because the belly was huge, and the baby was so small. And I didn't know how to care for her. I was thinking, how should I make sure that she isn't too cold? And it felt like I couldn't provide the surroundings that she needed to survive, actually, or at least to be okay. And at that moment, the mailman was pressing my doorbell. And I ran downstairs to get the mail. And I had to sign a little form that said I had gotten a package. And I took the package and went back upstairs, and I put it away on the kitchen counter. And a few steps away from the salad bowl, I realized that this whole cloth was rearranged. While I was gone, somebody must have opened it up. And my baby wasn't there anymore. And I was, I was in such a state of horror. I was running through the whole house, looking for my child everywhere. And coming back to the kitchen, realizing that she was nowhere. I started to open all these, all these counters, everything where I could look for her, all the cabinets, all the doors, I ripped everything open, I put everything on the floor. And I was in a frenzy going through the whole house, nothing was in its place anymore. Everything was torn down. And when I was finally going back to the kitchen where I had started, I was so exhausted that I leaned my, the back of my head against the the coolness of this refrigerator door. And I remember that it felt so cool and, and my heart was beating so fast in this dream that I felt relieved that I was at least having some help from the school of this refrigerator door. And then I was thinking, I can never find her again. Because if she's not in the house, and she's so tiny, where should I ever look for her? And I will never be able to find her. And I was in a state of resignation. So I, I felt like an endless sadness came over me. And I realized there's no way I could ever find her. And I had lost her. Now she's gone. And I was so sure that she was somewhere in the house for some reason. And I hadn't found her. And then my, my eyes fell on the— so I looked at this little package in front of me. And there was my name on it. And without even moving anything, not even my head, without even moving anything of my body, I realized that my baby is in this little package, bundled up for me, sent to me airtight. And I was starting— I was thinking, I'm going to go crazy. And I was starting to yell like I've never yelled in my whole life. And I was thinking, this is it. And I felt my heart racing such a beat that I don't know, and I always woke up at that point. And this dream kept coming back. And I told it to my husband, he said, this is a stupid dream, don't take it seriously. And I was trying to analyze some different details of it with some friends of mine, but we couldn't get any explanation. For instance, why is the baby so small? Of course, as the birth, as the time progressed and birth came nearer, I realized that it must have another meaning. It must not be actually that the baby is that small, but it must have a meaning that says the baby is not in a state where it can survive outside of the womb. That was the meaning of this detail. You know what I mean?

Yes.

So all these details made sense. Looking back at it, I realized that the salad bowl was the incubator where my daughter was put in. And the people who had taken her out were the medical personnel in the other clinic. Because I wasn't there, I was gone. Like in the dream, I was gone to talk to the mailman. So she was alone with others, and they took her out and took care of her. So in every little detail, I found some meaning that came true later on. And in this dream, I don't know, I was prepared for all those emotions that I was exposed to after she had died. So it was kind of a preparation dream. And I had this feeling that if I would understand what it meant, I wouldn't have to dream it anymore. And I was trying to figure out what it meant, but I never really figured it out until it was too late. And so this was the second dream. And the third dream was a positive dream. It was a dream of, I should say, contemplation. It was a dream of her being buried in a very beautiful way. Because, for instance, I saw myself in, in a dark church. Everything in this church was gone. There was no altar. There was nothing anywhere in this church. So the church was totally stripped down from everything that was inside. But there was a little circle of small white candles. And they were lit, and it was a circle of mild light. And within those candles, there was— there were flower petals, orange, and pink, and white, and, and kinds, shades of reds, and a little bit of purple. So it was girls' colors. And I was holding my daughter in my hand. And then everything was peaceful. And there were people standing around the circle of candles, so that the whole space of this church was filled up with people being present at the ceremony. And it was a very, very solemn but also peaceful and very respectful setting. So everything was peaceful and nice. And I gave my, my little daughter into the hands of my best friend who was standing next to my right. And she put her down on a soft, on a soft, small carpet that was dark wine red. And she put her down. And my daughter was asleep. She had her eyes closed and she was bundled up and we were standing there and then it as I felt that everybody's waiting for me to do something. We were standing there for a very, very long time. So it felt like 1 or 2 hours. And then I felt like I'm an actor in a movie. Everybody knows the script, but I have no idea what my next line is. And I couldn't figure out what everybody was expecting from me. But I did something that I felt was the next natural thing to do. So I, I walked past at the side of this little carpet where my dad, dear little baby was resting on. I stepped over all those petals, I stepped over the candles, the people made way for me. So I went to a little door that goes behind the altar. And strangely enough, it was when I went through it, I came into the same church again. The church was dark, it was empty. And all the people were gone. It was totally empty except for one chair that was sitting in the middle of it. And I knew that is my chair. This is my place. And I went slowly, I went over it, over to it, and I sat down. And I was sitting down and then I was so sad. And I started to cry and I couldn't stop. And I was crying and crying in this dream. And I realized I didn't know why I was so sad. And so I was trying to figure out how can I be that sad? And what could be the reason for me to cry so much? And as I was thinking about it, I didn't have any clue what could be so devastating that I would cry so much. And as I realized that there is no explanation for it. I woke up, but this dream was just— I just dreamt once and the other one was recurring every week. And later on, I felt like this dream had more or less the same content as the other one. We'll get back to Grief to Growth in just a few seconds. Did you know that Brian D Smith is an author and a life coach? If you're grieving or know someone who is grieving, His book, Grief to Growth, is a best-selling, easy-to-read book that might help you or someone you know. People work with Brian D Smith as a life coach to break through barriers and live their best lives. You can find out more about Brian and what he offers at www.grieftogrowth.com, www.grieftogrowth.com. If you'd like to support this podcast, visit www.patreon.com/grieftogrowth www.patreon.com/Grief, the number 2, G-R-O-W-T-H to make a financial contribution. And now back to Grief to Growth. But the other one was a little bit scary for me. And this one was calming me down and showing me the ceremony that we had arranged for her for her burial. And actually, I'd never told anyone of my family of this dream. And at the time, when the day came when my daughter was to be buried, my mom went outside in her garden, and she cut up every flower in her garden. So she went to, to the grave with two heavy baskets full of flowers. And she didn't tell anyone. She had no idea that I had dreamt that. And she put the flowers onto the, you know, onto the soil inside the grave. And I had to have another emergency operation the day before Aurelia was buried. And I had to fight to be able to be there in a wheelchair. And I was only allowed to stand up in front of the grave. And to sit down right away, right away again. But when I was standing up, and I looked into the grave with all those flowers, and, and her little coffin being, you know, laid down on a bed of flowers, I was so moved because I realized this was exactly what I'd seen in this dream. So I had seen that she would be cared for not only by me, but by other people, they would love her so much to to make such a present for her. And my mom wouldn't even tell me for another 2 or 3 days that it was her who had done that as a last gift for her granddaughter. And only when I had told her that I'm going to ask all of my friends who it was, because I was so grateful for that person, then she admitted that it was actually her. And I said, you know, I can't put it in words how that thankful I was for her to do that. And what a beautiful sight to see that your baby is laying on a bed of flowers. And so this was another detail that I had seen in the dream that came true.

Yeah. So Alba, I want to ask you, have you had communication with Aurelia since then? Has she come to you either in dreams or visions or anything since, since this time?

Yes, the first time that I had been contacted by her was when I was in the funeral home. And I had been in the clinic, in the hospital for about a week. And when I was finally released from the hospital, I told my husband, I want to arrange everything for her to, to be, you know, cared for and to be buried in a way that shows that we love her as much as if she would have been 70 years old, it didn't matter. How much people think that she had an impact on us or on our family, that she meant as much to us as anyone else in the family would have meant. And so I was, I was eager to finally see her again, for once, and secondly, to arrange everything so that she would have a very beautiful funeral. And when I was seeing her for the first time, she was laying in her coffin. And I had picked out all the clothes that she was wearing. And we had arranged for soft, for soft lining in her coffin, because it was bare wood as we had picked it out. And so we put some baby blankets in it. So I had got a couple of baby blankets from home that we had bought for her. And we folded them up and put them inside so that she could lay on it. And I had decided to spray everything with my favorite perfume because I thought she never was able to, you know, to sense my perfume. I wanted to give as much from myself as I could. And I took a sweater that I had knitted myself, my favorite sweater, and I put it in, in— I had let it put in the that little coffin, in her coffin. Yeah. And a man who had dressed her because she was cut up from a procedure to make sure what was the cause of her death. So she was cut up, but she was dressed beautifully. And I had the man who put her in the coffin, I had asked him to put my favorite sweater underneath her and so that it would end just at her neckline. And when we would close her coffin, we would wrap the sweater around her body and wrap the— just wrap it like two arms of her mother that would cradle her, you know, one side to the other. And we had beautiful flowers for her for each hour that she had lived, one flower and we said a prayer together. And before we closed the coffin, I said to my husband, I want to hold her in my hands because I have never been able to ever hug her in my life. And I just wanted to get her as close to me as possible. So my husband didn't want for me to lift her out of the coffin because of the procedure that she had been actually cut up and sewed back together. So I didn't I didn't want to get in a discussion with him. So I agreed. So I had arranged that there was a little seat for me to sit on. So because I couldn't carry her, because I had just had another operation, so I had to sit down. And then my husband put her into my arms. And when I looked at her, I, I was so happy. I don't know how to explain it. But in the deepest grief, I was so happy that I was finally together with my daughter the way that I should have been together from the start, in a way, you know, right after the birth. And, and suddenly I heard her telepathically tell me, Mom, don't be so sad, because I'm so happy that it's all over. And I realized that it must have been hard for her to, to live for those couple of hours when she was in the ICU, in the children's ICU. Because it must have been hard for her to come back and go through it all just for the sake of us. And, and I realized that this meant that she didn't want for me to, to grieve, you know, for forever, but it meant that she wanted for me to know that she was okay with the situation. And that she was fine. It was a big source of consolation for me, actually.

Yeah, there is just so much in, in your experience that, you know, it's just, it's so, uh, informative, I guess, for all of us, you know, because we sometimes wonder, like, if someone comes in and they're only here for a couple of hours or a couple of months or, you know, a few years, could they really have made an impact? And obviously, you know, your daughter, she, she saved your life in a way, I guess. And you know, the fact that people say, well, she definitely did, because—

yeah, well, I was thinking about, uh, the, the fact that she was a little pain medication, she was without any brain waves, she was without normal breathing, she had to be on a respirator, she had to have everything else. So she wasn't, she wasn't having any other vital signs except for her heartbeat. But in fact, in the spiritual realm, she was a grown-up person. She was totally— I felt when I had talked to her, she was so forgiving. She was, she was so much better than me as a, as a person. She was so way ahead of me that I had the feeling that she was actually my coach. She was my teacher in this situation. And she was like a mentor mentor, taking someone else by the hand and showing them the way to go. And, and later on, I realized I had this strange thought that maybe she didn't stay among us for that long, because what could I ever have told her? Like, she couldn't have learned anything from me anymore. It felt like it was just a gift that I had had the honor to meet her, actually. And And this just, this was just so unbelievable, because I had never felt that a little baby could have actually spiritually such a, such a personality that brings so much hope and goodness to the lives of others. And just to think about what her impact was, she not only saved my life because of her death right after the NDE, I was checked. And if I hadn't been checked right after she had died, because I wanted to see her, nobody would have realized that I was still bleeding internally and in the process of dying. So I had to undergo some more checkups, and then they found the source inside my belly, and then they fixed it. So I would definitely have died. And as I said, I'm afraid that even my husband would have died, maybe just out of a lack of concentration on his way back home. And the whole family would have been destroyed in a way. Yeah, because I couldn't even— I couldn't even start to imagine what it would have meant for my two older children.

And the other thing I think is really important in your, in your experience is the power and the purpose of forgiveness. I mean, a lot of times, and I love the way you went through this process where you you knew philosophically, the best thing to do is forgive, but emotionally, you still couldn't do it until you realize that the forgiveness was really for yourself.

Ja, that was the problem before I went into this other realm, in the spiritual realm. It felt like forgiveness was a service that I would do for others. It felt like it was a way to stretch out a hand for my husband, but it did not have any meaning for my own well-being. I couldn't make this connection that my well-being was actually also connected with my husband's well-being, and that I would also hurt myself the same way I would hurt him. Because if you imagine, if I wouldn't have been able to forgive him, even if I would have survived and wouldn't have died because of the internal bleeding, if I would have survived for the rest of my life, I would have carried this burden.. And this burden would have been huge, just like this huge boulder that I saw in the other realm. It would have been impossible for me to, to move it. I would have been stuck for the rest of my life with this accusation against my husband and not forgiving anyone. And to be honest, what astonished me the most is that I had felt in this chamber of truth that there was no way that I could ever change even one little inch of the outcome of my life result at this point. So there was no way to change it. But the only way to change it was forgiving someone else. So this meant I had this huge urge all the time that I would be forgiven. This was a desire that was as strong as you could imagine somebody who is, who is nearly dying from hunger and thirst, It was like somebody being hungry and desiring something to eat and to drink. This was how much it— these emotions were so strong, I could hardly think of anything else. And this desire was so great that I would be forgiven, but I couldn't make it. I couldn't change anything about it. And then only when I forgave my husband, automatically, it felt automatically in the same moment, I was forgiven everything that I had done wrong. And that was the thing that astonished me the most when I was actually back in the ICU. I was thinking to myself, how, how much power is in forgiving? If even in eternity, when, when you decide you would forgive someone else, you would change your own life result. I mean, this is huge. And if you think about it, in, in the prayer that Jesus had taught his disciples, it says, God, please forgive us the way we forgive others. And it's also there, the connection is there, that in a way, it seems to me as if it was impossible for God to forgive us everything he would wish to if we were stuck in not forgiving others. There's, there's some connection there that I experienced. And it was heartbreaking before I finally got around to forgiving my husband. And even on the other side, there's still this power of forgiveness. It was unbelievable, to be honest, when I came back and thought about it.

Yeah, it's, it's really, really incredible. Well, Alba, I want to thank you so much for sharing your experience with me today. It's just, it's just incredible and fascinating, and I know the listeners are going to love it. I want to let everybody know that Alba has a book out, and the book is called Proof of Eternity, and her name is spelled A-L-B-A and the last name is M-O-N-N. That's available now on Amazon, and I'm sure there's a lot more in the book, but I really appreciate you sharing this very rich, very enlightening experience.

Well, thank you so much for having me. And I have written my book actually to reach out to all other parents who didn't have an NDE and would be interested in hearing what I had been through and what my daughter had actually done for me. And I'm sure my daughter is no exception. So I'm sure that the children that die very early in their lives, they have a very huge impact on all of us, but the impact should be the goodness that they had brought to us. And one last thought that I would like to share with you is, at some point when I was very sad about the death of my daughter, I asked myself if it was up to me, if I could have decided, did I want for Aurelia to be born, to be in my life, and bring so much sorrow together with the happiness that we had about her? Or would I decide to not have her and just not experience any of the sadness and of, of the emotions that came with her death? And I decided, no matter what, I would always make the decision to have my daughter in my life because of what she meant to me. And that was a point of no return. That was a point when I started to be more thankful for her being in my life than being sad about the grief and the loss that I had to experience because of it. And so I just wanted to share that with your viewers as well.

Yeah, beautifully said. Beautifully said. And you know, you're right, for all of us that have had children that have come in and left early, and we ask why, we can look, we can see that they left gems in our lives. And no matter how long they were here,. And I'm so grateful that you shared this with, with me today. I'm really, I'm honored to have you here.

Something else, because of the— you mentioned that we often ask ourselves why we had to lose our children. There is a little explanation that comes from Elisabeth Kübler-Ross. And she was answering a question from a little boy that was dying of cancer. And he asked her, why does Why is it that little children have to die? And what— how does God think about that? And then Elisabeth Kübler-Ross told him that God is a great teacher, and all of us are his pupils. And some are just starting to learn how to read and write. And some of us are in our final exams. And just, you know, before graduation. And she said, if God had a very, very hard problem to solve, to which pupil do you think would he give it? And then the boy said, only to one of the best. And he smiled at her. And he was able to accept his fate as something that was extraordinary. And I think this is the truth for all of us, all the parents that have lost a child, they are actually getting their PhD from the University of Life. And they're about to graduate when they are able to finally accept their faith and find some goodness in it and the strength to go on.

Wow. Wow. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Well, I'll let you enjoy the rest of your day. Appreciate your time.

You too. Thank you so much, Brian. Bye.

There you have it. That's the end of part 2. Now please proceed to part 3, where Alba will answer a lot of questions that I have for her and fill in some of the blanks that you might have missed as she told her story earlier.

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