Online leads have gotten worse because audiences are tired of digital-only pitches. Go back to live events and sweepstakes to collect contacts, then hit them with direct mail and personalized outreach.
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We're going back to some basics. We just restarted shows and events, which I got away from. And I'm seeing that the leads are much more challenging now than it was even a year or two ago. Because the online is, I mean, people are getting bored with it. And I don't think they're responding quite as good as they used to. So I think we have to get back to the basics of that face-to-face marketing. So we're starting with shows and events. We're going to set up a sweepstakes again. So get a bunch of people raising their hands saying, hey, I need to win this. If they need to win it, we have who to market to so we can create direct mail campaigns and things like that.