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In this brief podcast excerpt, Speaker A shares a personal mantra—"you don't have to be great to get started, but you have to get started to become great"—and reflects on the struggle with perfectionism when launching a product. Initially, the desire for a flawless launch caused hesitation, but over time Speaker A realized that releasing an imperfect version and continuously refining it ("flying the plane and fixing it at the same time") leads to dramatic improvement. The dialogue underscores the value of taking action, iterating, and fine‑tuning rather than waiting for perfection.

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