Ep. 31: Building Opulent Business Foundations with Carly Raemer

I was making it mean things about me, like my energy's off, there's a block in my system, something like that. There's a shadow coming up here. There's something in my auric field that like things can't move through. I'm repelling people, like all of these stories about me. But really what it was was a lack of structure and like intentional direction.

Welcome to the Prosperous Woman Podcast. I'm Claire Sellers, a business mentor and coach who is absolutely obsessed obsessed with helping you create the business of your dreams and your most prosperous life. Tune in for inspiring conversations with extraordinary women that will propel you towards becoming the prosperous woman. Welcome everyone. I am so excited to introduce one of my absolutely incredible dreamiest, most extraordinary clients, Carly Ramer. She is a member of the Opulence Mastermind, and she is literally the go-to business coach for rebellious women who are ready to break the rules and build businesses their way. Carly, welcome. I'm so happy to have you. Thank you.

Thanks, Claire Sellers.

So a quick little backstory, Carly has totally just catapulted her business inside of the Opulence Mastermind. She had a lot of amazing offers, a lot of amazing talents, and a lot of amazing client results. And what we did inside of the mastermind is we honed in on her zone of genius and we focused in on 2 to 3 core offers and the results have been insane. $35K launch, $55K launch, all within 6 months. She is, I mean, $250K this year is already done. I'm so excited. And the best part is I love when you show up to our calls and you're just like, everything's good. Like it's working. So I'm so excited to just take people through who you are, how you got here, and how you have just settled into a new way of doing business that is really rooted in freedom and simplicity. So I'm so excited. Yay.

Me too.

It's all true.

So I think you're just fascinating, first of all. As a woman, I just think you're so interesting, and I'm so blessed because you and your husband actually came to Mexico City and I got to meet you both, which was such a joy for me. And I just remember having— it's like, I don't think you do surface. Like, you just have this way of dropping in. You know, like a coffee chat with you is like a soul-altering experience. And I think that is like one of the reasons you are so successful and your clients get insane results because you just have this superpower of like getting straight to the heart of it and really activating things in someone. So I'm so curious, and I know people want to hear because you just are so fascinating. Why did you want to become a business coach? Like, how did we even get there?

Yeah, your lead-in is like perfect, actually. I can't do shallow. It's like the most awkward that I ever am in my whole life. It's horrible. So yeah, you're right, like coffee chats are all the way in. Like we go down and we go fast, or I'm not gonna do it. I'm just like not interested. And that's like, that's the thing that jumped me from like life coach, sovereignty coach, somatics coach into business coach. 'Cause I was watching, I was watching women do all of this, not just watching women, but like coaching women, taking women through doing all of this. Like self-reclamation work and coming back to the center of you and just like what's true for you and how you are meant to move through the world, like your soul moving through your body. And then they would take it into business and find all of these old patterns popping up again where they're no longer authentic in running a business. So it's like the— The biggest driver for me is, is this. It's like, it's, it's depth and soul and like realness in your business.

That's it. And it works when you have both. And when you only have one, you will not feel fulfilled and/or you will be burned out.

Yeah.

It'll feel like something's not working or something's missing.

Yeah. Yeah. So how have you moved through this in your own journey? Because I've, I've known you for several years and like have seen you through so many iterations, and I always have felt that you've really put like your truth at the forefront. And then I think, you know, when you came to me, we really put effective business strategies on top of that. But has it always been like that? Like, how have you, how have you found the balance and navigated when you weren't in balance of the two?

At first, and when I say at first, for like many years of my business, I was— this is part truth and part wound for me. Like, this is my rebellious edge where I'm like, I'm gonna do this my way because every other way feels terrible. And because I am so devoted to myself, like myself and authenticity and my sovereignty. And so I, I like rebelliously and stubbornly built my business that way on like on, on my, on my highest excitement. And like, if it's, if it's not, if there's not joy, I'm not doing it.

Mm-hmm.

Around my cycle and my family. And I built an awesome like almost version of my dream business.

Like, what did that look like practically?

Yeah. Um, I, so I ran, I ran a women's group for many years and it was, it was long. Every time I ran it, it got longer too. So it started as like 2 months and then it was 4 months and it was 6 months. And like, if I ever run it again, we'll see, it'll be at least a year because the work is so important. Over time. But how that shook out, like, I always had a group. Women always came, and it was always an awesome group. Like, every group was kind of a different flavor, but they were all, like, perfectly meant to be there at the same time. But there was so much mystery in how that was going to land, like, how many women were going to come, how much money I was going to make. So, like, I always knew that it was going to happen. Like, I'm going to have a group. Mm-hmm. Um, but whether I was like really, really financially supported by the group was always like up in the air. Maybe, maybe not. And then everything else that I was running was kind of like that too, because I was running it like from the energy. This is alive, I'm gonna launch it. And I would have people come, but it— in, in practicality, my numbers were all over the place.

Why do you think, now knowing what you know after working with me, like why was that happening? 'Cause at the time you probably didn't know, you were just like, "Oh, it's who's in the room is meant to be in the room." Right, I was making it mean things about me, like my energy's off, there's a block in my system, something like that.

There's a shadow coming up here, there's something in my auric field that like things can't move through, I'm repelling people, like all of these stories about me. But really what it was was a lack of structure and like intentional direction.

Totally. Yeah. And, and it— I just— I— it's so helpful for people to hear it from you, you know, because I'm sure there are people listening that are like, you know, yep, it's like my auric field, like she gets it, like— and the good news with you is that it was never about your power, your energy, your your ability. It was truly just a structural strategy uplevel that was required. And you were too in it to see it. Yeah.

Yeah. Honestly, now that I zoom out on all of this now, I'm looking at it now and I'm like, this is actually quite simple. I was running pleasure and feminine and intuition and delight I needed the masculine.

Yeah.

And that changed everything. And like, I know that I taught these dynamics for 6 years. I still do. I'm like, oh, that. But Claire is so good at that. You're so good at that.

Thank you. Yeah, it's so funny because I, you know, I've worked so hard to be feminine in like my romantic relationships. And when you Carly sent me a voice note the other day and she was like, your masculine pull is just like so fierce. And I'm like, I feel like my business is the one place that I get to be just like really masculine. And it's like so needed because the women that I work with are so feminine.

Yeah.

And they're like you, they're like, they just need someone to be like, here's what you're gonna do. Here's how you're going to do it, and here's the result. And they're like, okay. And then they go do it and they're like, I just made $50K in 5 days. I'm like, great, now we're going to do it again. And they're like, really? And I'm like, yeah, we're going to do it again.

And it's actually like, we're— we— I say we, like everyone listening, I'm making an assumption here, but like we're all looking for the feminine lead, leaned back route. But like, this way is how I've actually found it. But I was like trying to find it the other ways I was doing it.

That's— and, and I have that in my own business. Like, in my own business, I wouldn't say— well, my business feels very feminine-led because I have the structures, you know. And, and I think what we— speaking to everyone listening— like, what we tend to get in the loop of is like, I'm just gonna go with flow, or I'm just gonna lead from my energy, or, you know, like, I'm feeling called to teach on prosperity, so I'm gonna run an offer on that. And it's like, it's not fitting in any structure, and it's not leading people anywhere. And then you've poured your heart and soul out into something, and you have like, you know, 4 sales to show for it. And then you go in the doom spiral of like, oh, this is karmic. You know, I'm just like not meant to make money because of my, you know, ancestral wounding. And it's just like you end up— this is the cycle. And, and, you know, Carly, you're such a beautiful example of like, you are so just like chill and in flow. And like, I mean, easy in your business now because like, you know the plan, you know the money's coming, like, you know what the next 6 months are going to be. You just know. And like, there's not a reality where it doesn't work. And that's really the gift of the work that we do, you know, inside of Opulence. And I just want to highlight one thing, like you said, I'm gonna do this my way. And I think that that we talked about this, like, why were you willing to try another way?

The opulent way?

Yes.

Claire Sellers' way? Um, I was stuck. I was stuck, and I had tried my way— I'm gonna do this my way— like so many times, and there was just a point where I was like, I was done The metaphor, like, beating my head against the wall, like, isn't quite right, but I was just done with that. And I was like, it was a very, like, hard conversation that I had with myself. Like, sat myself down, was like, dude, this, you have to change this. Like, you have got to figure this out. And like, also, you know the woman you need to hire for this. So yeah, it was just like a line in the sand moment. Like, figure this out or like, it's actually not gonna work. Like, this is not sustainable. Lifelong, which is like, I'm in this for life.

Yeah, yeah. And it's, it's beautiful because I think your clients actually come to you in that moment too, in their own versions of their journey.

Yeah.

What the type of woman that you work with is so specific, and you've been since the beginning of you, you've been working with this same type of, you know, I would describe as kind of the, the outcast, the outlaw, the, the rebel, the, you know, the one who does it her way, the rule breaker, like fierce, fearless. Like you've always worked with this type of just like very niche woman.

Mm-hmm.

What is it about that type of woman that you're like so drawn to?

They won't sacrifice themselves. They won't sacrifice the truth of who they are for anything else. So they also have been so truly themselves throughout their lives, and this is what's created these stories of they're black sheep, they don't quite fit in. And it's because they're not They're like, social norms, status quo, like, uh-uh. Like, we don't play that way. Like, we came here as ourselves, and that's the only way. And it's the same rub, right, in creating a business because they're like, I'm only me. I actually only know how to be me, even when it looks totally weird to the rest of the world, that like, this is how I build business too. And it's like, so almost there, but like, not quite.

So what are they— like, what are they struggling with? When they come to you?

Um, they struggle with— these women are so like, their, their sight is so sharp, and they're, uh, like intuitive sight. Their, their channels are lit. Um, what they know they want, like, all of this is just like sharp, sharp, sharp, like really honed. They're They're living in their purpose. It's coming out through their businesses. But one of the, one of the gaps that they have, one of the things that they struggle with is, um, bridging between what they can do for people, which is insane.

Mm-hmm.

Like the results that they do for clients is insane. And like bridging that into, um, how to, how to make this a viable business. So like how to message this, how to turn this into copywriting that's actually landing with the with their dream clients. So there's some bridging happening there between spiritual and how I make this actually work. And there's some structural stuff too, where we want, we so want these businesses, these dream lives that are supported by our businesses that reflect our, like the feminine cycle. And whether that's the menstrual cycle or even like our creation cycle, We want businesses that are seasonal so we can take the summers off because we have kids or take the winters off because we're like, "Oh my God, the holidays, I'm not working." But trying to create structure that's actually working in a sustainable business way, it's difficult to structure on a feminine cycle. So that's one of the gaps too. Yeah.

Yeah, it's— as you're talking, I think it's also important to mention, like, you know, you, you are a master of energetics, in case people can't tell, and, you know, of somatics and really running and working things in the body, you know. And, and there's actually a lot of different paths you could have taken because when you came into Opulence, like, you were doing a lot of different different things, you know, you were doing, well, all different types of offers. Like, how did we hone in on your first core product, which is doing what you just said in Firestarter?

Right, the— yeah, in, in all of, in all of my, like, different, different branches of work and modalities and how I work and what I'm offering and all of those, like, 27 million things, right? The through line of yes energy for me is always for women that are moving, that are ambitious, that are like, amazing. I just— not like we heal everything in one go, but like, I just healed this massive wound about around like visibility or like being able to feel safe as I'm, I don't know, branching out of my comfort zone. Whatever work we were doing inside, the women that are like, cool, I just, you know, I just touched this thing, I just healed part of this wound, what am I going to do with it? Like, get on the road. And so what that ended up looking like for me is women that are healers, medicine women, artists, creatives, that are taking the work that they've done internally and turning that into a business. But there's a fire in it. There's a changemaker energy in it. These women are— they see the— this is kind of like a status quo thing again. We see the world as reality says is normal, and they're like, no, we can do better.

That's it.

Let's build that. So they're world builders. Yeah, so that's really where the Firestarter, that's really where like my whole suite comes from is like these are the women that I wanna work with that are like, yeah, but we have really cool things to build, like let's go.

You work with like, I feel like, I don't know, I've never been on one of your group calls, but when I imagine it, I just feel like it's like, you know, like the most unique like healers and witches and like, you know, just like very, and like, I don't know what you guys do in there, but I feel like it's like just, you can like feel the vibration in the room. Like, it's incredible.

Yeah, yeah. The space itself is wild. Like, we, in like 10 minutes, we're like, okay, here's this practical thing that you need to do. Like, okay, you're launching on this day. Here's boom, boom, boom, you have to do this. And then we're like, oh my God, this emotion is coming up for you. We're all gonna hold the space and just like, you're gonna cry on screen. And then we shift into like, I have so much fear. Like, no, you have so much fear coming up about like, I have this new offer, but I like don't know how to move on it. And so we're working with the energetics of that and like what's actually coming up for you. Yeah, it's a wild space. It's vibrational for sure.

And you really built, you know, I think for you, like you had, I think you had that vision. Like I actually can see the fire, you know, it's like you kind of had that vision of like, this is the type of container that I want to hold. And, and it's really designed to be like one of your legacy offers, you know, like it will evolve and shift over time, but like at, at its core, like that is the home for like rebellious women who want to actually learn how to start businesses that make money. Like that's their step, that's their entry point into the world of functional business. I would say.

Yeah, the fire starter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So either start, like, start a business or start, like, up a new offer, or, like, if you have an offer that you're totally in love with and it's just, like, not, not doing the thing, just a revamp, which is usually just, like, really small things.

Totally. And I think that's important for people to hear on, on your end. Like, it's not like we— I think people have this story that if I want to start making money consistently in my business. And if I want to scale, I'm going to have to burn everything to the ground. And that's not true for your women and it wasn't true for you. It actually was just like putting it together in a way that actually worked.

Yes.

Yes. Yeah. Streamlining. Streamlining was—

Streamlining.

My game.

Yeah.

We love that word. And so once we had the offer in place, The next piece for you that I feel like was so powerful was launching and learning how to launch with The Party Method. And you had never done like a formal launch like that before. How did it feel?

It felt great. I had, I had so much energy. I felt I was just like lit and excited and inspired by the whole launch process. Um, it felt in integrity, which is a huge thing that, that my women have a desire for— not even desire, but like commitment to. It's like, is this in integrity? I felt in integrity the whole time. Um, and it was easy. It, it just worked. Like, it, it converted the coolest women into my program.

Yeah.

But yeah, ease is like the biggest thing. There's a lot of energy in holding it, but it works.

It works. And I think the thing that I love about The Party Method is it's reliant on your alignment and your energy.

Yeah.

That is the gas that makes the whole thing work. And because you've got that so dialed in, it was just, it was literally like wildfire.

Yeah, it was a blast.

With your launches because You've always had the energy. And I think that's what I love about this work. And I think you love about your work, this work in Renegades, which is now your higher level program, which we'll talk about, is that there's so many women in the world that like change lives with their work. You know, it's like when I think about the work that like you're doing or, you know, other girls in the mastermind or in the Dream Accelerator are doing, and I think about the ripple effect of one program that they're delivering to 10 women, and then those 10 women go into work and relationships and life in the coffee shop as different versions of themselves, better versions of themselves. When I think about the ripple effect of that, that's my motivation for teaching women how to launch because it's doing the world a disservice for you to not know how to get your offers into more people's hands. Yeah, you know, and like, that, that's what's happened with you because you've always had the vision, the energy. Like, it was just the strategy that was missing.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah. And I, I also want to say that before I, before I joined Opulence, uh, in December, I like, I thought that I knew how to launch.

How did you launch before? Like, I don't even know.

I'm like, I don't either. What did I do? Yeah, I mean, I had a whole plan. Like, I would launch. I'm like, okay, this is my launch period. This is what I'm starting. But I was really launching—

launching—

like, when I feel it, it feels like launching off of clouds where I'm just like, woo! And I'm just following the energy and Okay, this is alive. I'm going to ride on it. I was riding my highs and also, as I'm feeling into it, riding my lows too. Those moments that are like, nobody's buying and now I have to take myself through the murk and the void and be with my shadows and then come back up again and find momentum again. But I really thought that I was like, no, I know how to launch.

Because— to be honest, like, you probably were doing like the tease, the announcement, the early bird, the doors closing. Like, you were doing all those things.

I was.

So in your mind, you're like, well, this is what everyone else is doing. Why isn't it working?

Yeah, this is, you know, this is what it— this is what it looks like. This is a launch. This is, um, that I'm staying true for me, true to me.

Yeah. Yeah.

And like I said, they worked sort of.

Yeah. But it, it, it was a little bit like you weren't sure. It could have gone either way, you know, like, and I think that now when you launch, you just know, like the bottom floor is 35.

Like, yeah.

There's no reality where it's not gonna be like at least 35. Yeah.

Thousand.

It's like, it's solid, and I feel solid from an energetics place, um, and like certainty. This is certain, like you're saying. There's no way that this is not gonna happen.

Yeah.

And like, I know exactly how it's going to happen.

Exactly. Like, that's it, you know? And, and before it was like, you know, maybe we can like bypass our fears into like, this is gonna be the one, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it, but you don't actually have the strategic plan that you know will work. And just, I think, having the offer, knowing how to launch it, plus being in alignment in your purpose, energetics are pure. You really can't lose.

Yeah. I mean, it's like the no-brainer simplicity thing that you talk about all the time. This is simple. Keep it simple, right? And my creative, my artist, my like semi-shiny object syndrome is like, yeah, but I love it complicated, right? And then we made it simple. I'm like, oh, that's the move.

Why do you think women like to overcomplicate things like that?

I have lots of different answers for you. I think that we love to feel alive. I mean, we all have different energetic structures. From a Human Design place, I see differences there. And there's astrology too. It's all over charts really. But I really think it's just like, especially from a feminine place, like, here's the energy. Ooh, here's the energy. Oh my God, I'm inspired by this. And like, We're just like open vessels and all of these ideas are coming through, um, and we're— yeah, that's, that's so much, so much of feminine teaching is like, where's the energy? Go that way. And so it creates 27 different this and this and this and this.

I think that as you were talking, I just thought, I think another reason we overcomplicate is because it, it gives us a false sense of doing. And I think that a lot of women think, if I just work hard, I'll get the results.

Sure. Yeah, I think there's a, I think there's a story in there too that's like, something will stick, like one of these will work.

Keep trying, you know.

This is going to be the one that works.

Yeah, yeah. And what's, what's so interesting to me is, you know, and I'm very like transparent about this, like I literally want to work as little as possible. Now, I don't really feel like I'm working. I'd say of my typical days, months, whatever, like maybe 10% of what I have to do like actually feels like a quote job or work. The rest is like actually quite joyful to me, and I think it's probably similar for you.

Yes.

And I think people don't believe me when I say that, you know, that I never work more than 20 hours a week. I honestly don't. Like, I just, I don't. And like my work doesn't really often feel like quote work. But I think that a lot of women are so used to running in the— if like, if it's not hard, I'm not good. If it's not hard, it won't work. Like if it's not hard, I won't win. And so they create these super complex businesses with like all these tiered launches and multiple offers and special pricing and da da da da da. And who could stay afloat in that, especially when you're not getting the results that you want?

Yeah, yeah. I see also that we have these stories that things in business are hard too. It's hard to write a post. It's hard. I don't like to write emails, kind of these aversions. To the— to— I know we're just audio, so like air quotes, like businessy things. And the, like, creating a new offer is like way easier. That's so exciting.

It's true. It's true. It's like that actually feel— it's like you're, you know, it's like when you're, I don't know, like decorating the Christmas tree or whatever like that. Part feels fun, but then when it's like you have to like take it down and like, you know, take all the ornaments off, it's like no one wants to do that.

Right.

But yeah, you know, I think, I think one thing that I've found, and I don't know if you've experienced this or seen this in your clients, but you know, when you actually simplify your business model with the clear offers you just have so much more capacity for the quote business things. Like, I have so much spaciousness in my business that like sometimes I'm like, that's why I started the podcast, because I was like, I want something else to do, you know, like, because I have so much spaciousness because I don't have many calls. I have like a few calls a week and— And I think that, you know, we tend to— we tend to think that like this isn't possible, but it is. And when you have the streamlined product suite and you know what you're selling, you know what you're launching, it's like every piece of content is serving a purpose. Every email is serving a purpose. Every, you know, mini offer is serving a purpose and they're all leading you towards the result that you want versus what I think probably a lot of your clients and mine are doing is they're like frantically sending out emails, posts, you know, posting and praying. It's like, I'm gonna run a, you know, half-off boxer week and they post about that like randomly and then the next day it's like they're doing a masterclass, you know, it's just like— You're expending so much energy through the overcomplication. It just doesn't have to be that way.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, having 2 or 3 solid, solid offerings too really solves the problem of throwing spaghetti and like, what do I— I don't even know what to write about. You know, like I hop into my laptop or like into my phone and, you know, go to write a post and everything's just like, ugh. But it's just solved because it's all anchored in something.

Yes.

It's like the best thing ever, you know?

It is.

'Cause I used to feel like that too before I started, you know, running my business in this way. I would be like, fuck, I have to write an Instagram post today and I don't know what to write about.

Yeah.

And so then you just end up like, okay, what's alive in me right now? And then like a line will come to you and you write a post about like, you know, a moment you had at the coffee shop that's like actually totally irrelevant to your offer or your business, but you throw a CTA on it because you're like, whatever, my audience is with me.

Yeah, they'll feel it.

They'll feel it. They'll feel it. And sometimes they do, you know, that, that gotta, you know, it works, but there's just another way, you know. And so with your, with your clients, like, what is your, how are you helping them really create the freedom-first business that you have?

The first thing is coming back to— it actually feels like streamlining or kind of like pruning, like coming back again to joy and excitement. And like, is this in your business because you love it, or is this in your business because you think that you should do this? So we, for the most part, get rid of a lot of shoulds. And like, even as I say that, there's nuance in this because there are things that should be in your business that need to be there if you want to have a successful one that works. And so in the more like structural, strategic things that aren't necessarily like super high vibe feminine joy, like, oh my God, I love this. Like, how can we bring that yes energy and the joy energy into those things. So like, if the story is like, oh my God, I hate writing my weekly email or whatever it is, like, let's flip that. Like, that's an energetic piece there. Like, let's flip that so that—

How do you flip that?

Perspective is one. Like, I will always offer my clients, like, how, you know, you're coming to this thing that you need to do. Like, you need to do this if you want these wheels to turn in the way that you know is possible and like, have a successful, wealthy, long-game business, you do need to do these things. So like, you're coming to it from a place of density and like so many stories around, you know, we block it. I didn't do the thing for 4 days, whatever. Like, how much levity can we come to this with? Like, I love writing emails, right? I blocked myself. I use this all the time because I hated writing emails for so many years. But if I bring the energy of like, this is so easy, I'm just going to knock it out in 10 minutes. I can do it in 10 minutes. And I know this, this can be a little bypassy because we're just like going up into like—

It's true.

Here we go. It's true. And also like what needs to be addressed internally as far as like, okay, like inner child is probably activated here. How can you show up for her and still write the email with a bunch of levity?

Yeah. You know, like I, I was telling my Dream Accelerator girls You know, like before, 'cause a lot of this is, becomes habit. A lot of the practices that, you know, I teach in Opulence and after, you know, your first round, like you just know, like you have to post every day, you have to story every day, you should email a few times a week. Like of course you don't have to and like, you know, weekends are kind of freebies in my world. But if like you're in an active launch, like you just have to show up for your business. Those are kind of like baseline things. And I think in the beginning, women really struggle with getting in a habit with that where it's like the same way you show up for your morning practice, you show up for your business.

Yeah.

And I was telling my Dream Accelerator clients, like when I was getting myself to, you know, where these practices are just autopilot, I used to literally like dom myself. Into like, okay, babe, like, you're gonna write this post, and then I'm gonna take you to the coffee shop and get you your favorite iced latte, and you get to sit there and doom scroll on Instagram for 30 minutes.

Yeah.

Like, I was literally like sexy domming myself into taking action in my business, you know, like, and, and that soothes the inner child as well. So it's like all these pieces that are, that are at play. But at the end of the day, it does come down to the women who are willing to say, okay, I'm going to do it. I don't want to, but I'm going to do it. And when you start realizing that every post, every email, every single thing creates results, you'll start to want to do it more.

Mm-hmm. There's identity and embodiment stuff in here too. Like, who are you being? Who is the woman that is running the business of your dreams? Are you being her? And if not, like, let's get you there. You need to be the woman who's doing the thing that you want the results about.

Yeah. And that is such a big shift. And what I love, and I know you see this too, is like when you start, I think I upleveled into that woman in my business before I upleveled into that woman in my life.

Mm-hmm.

In my relationships, like in dating, like my business became the first place place I stepped into my next level time and time again. I'm always doing it, and it's like then I can mirror it in other areas.

Yeah.

Have you found that?

I— yeah, I'm, uh, I know you guys can't see this, but I'm smiling. Um, I have found this. Yes, my, my business is always upleveling me. Um, and I also find that in these like really sneaky ways where we're sabotaging our business or like not doing the thing or however this is shaking out, that we're actually not— we're not embodying the identity of this woman, the woman who's been upleveled, but we're actually ident— like we're actually embodying probably like some teenage version of us. And I think this is really alive for like for my, my Renegades, my, my trailblazing women. I'm like, How often are you actually in teenage self where you're like, actually, I'm not going to come home for curfew?

It's true. But you know what's funny is that yours are teenage rebellion. And I think for me, it's like bratty little girl.

The delineation.

Love it.

Like, I think that that's like, that's my like, And I think with my clients too, it's so funny, but yours is totally like, I'm not coming home for curfew. Like, I'm going to smoke a cigarette.

Like—

I'm wearing black lipstick today.

Yeah.

Yeah. Like, try me.

It's so— it's so funny. But I think you attract, you know, like you're attracting the type of woman who can see themselves in you. And I think that that's so beautiful. Do you see that? Like, they see what's possible in their lives through you.

Absolutely.

Because you've had the courage and the humility and, you know, the, the zest, determination to go first.

Yeah, yeah. I think there's that, like, the thing that we started this with too, this, this, um, inability to go shallow. Like, I'm— I can only be authentic, or like, you don't even want to see me try not. That is, like I said, it's so awkward. Um, that is like— it is actually possible to run, to run your business authentically in, in soul sovereignty, and like, it through your purpose, through your business. Um, and I think that that is— I know that that is showcased in how I, and how I in how I do and how I build.

And it's felt.

Yeah.

And I think people can feel you even more clearly now with the structure and the offers and, you know, the opulence-ified business. I think people can feel you more now than they ever could.

100%.

And like, that's the power of this work is that like, it brings you back into the front seat of your business in a way that it just feels so good and easy.

Yeah, to— yeah, actually, to bring it back to this, to the energetics piece too, uh, I feel like internally my, my experience, my experience of myself, like my energetic body, is also clear because I'm not, you know, I'm not bouncing around a million—

You're not spinning.

Like, I am solid, not just in myself but in my field. I'm, yeah, I'm clean, I'm clear, and I'm not some like frantic holographic version that my clients are like, wait, what are you today? Wait.

Yeah.

So, yeah, from the energetic place, like, I'm also showing up solid.

Yes.

Yeah.

And that's why it works because people, you know, I always say like you have to lead people into your offers with clarity, with sovereignty, with felt energetic leadership. And how in the F can you do that if you're like spinning a million plates, a million offers, you're panicking on the back end about money, You're praying, you know, you get a new client this week so that you can like pay the bills. Like you're trying to figure out how to write emails. You're using ChatGPT to write content. You know, it's just like, I know this is what's happening behind the scenes in people's lives because they tell me. And it's just like, it doesn't work and there's another way.

Yeah.

And you won't, you will not lose yourself. By adding the structure and the simplicity. It— you only will gain more.

Yeah, it amplifies.

It amplifies.

Yes.

Yeah, this was interesting because after Firestarter, which is like the more introductory business group, or, you know, I'll call it like the step one into your work, it was so organic to just create The Mastermind.

Yes. Yeah, it was, it was, it was so organic. I told Claire Sellers a couple times that it, it almost felt like I was forgetting things, like that feeling of like, oh my God, did I leave the stove on? Like, I kind of felt like that. And what it, like, what it was for me was this recalibration to actually how easy this can be. And so there was like there was old muscle memory in me that was like, oh my God, I should be working harder.

It was awesome.

Like you would show up to our calls and like, you know, you'd be like, I'm at $40K, I've got 4 more coming in. I just know they're coming. It's all good. And you just, you were following the process. You were showing up and like, sure enough, what was your final launch total?

$55K.

55 with how many women?

I have 8 women.

Yeah, like, and they're all extraordinary.

They're all extraordinary. Yeah, I love them all so much. They're all such dreams.

And it truly was like, it's just such a joy to watch you embodying The Party Method in your own way with your own energetics. Like, in case you can't tell, like, Carly is not wearing hot pink dresses and she's a rebel. You look like a badass rebel and you've— just because it's called The Party Method doesn't mean you have to be like a 1970s party hostess. You get to do it in your way.

Yes.

I know the branding's a little poppy, but you get to do it in your way and your people love it because they want to go on a journey.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's super effective.

And, and your product suite now, I feel is, you know, people can continue on with you for multiple rounds. Like, and people did move from Firestarter into Renegades. Like, you, you really have like the self-selling product suite. People can stay with you for multiple years. And, you know, we've got some other, other things potentially in the works. In the next 6 months, but like your product suite is perfect.

It is. I really, I really love my product suite and I, I, this, this is like, this is really critical actually. I was really worried that if I honed down to just 2 or 3 things that I was gonna feel stifled by it. Like this is boring, this is strangling, um, And that's just not the case at all. I feel so correct in them. I love them so much and I feel really free. I feel really free.

And the last thing I want to say is you get to channel your unique creativity in all of your content, but also in your mini offers. Right now you're running Joyful AF. And that was just like a soul calling. You were like, I need to run this.

Yeah.

And it's serving as kind of like a pre-party for the party.

Yeah.

And like that just came from you and you're like, I gotta do this. And it's like, all right, great. And it's like, it's playing out perfectly, you know? So you get to still create these offers through your mini offers and that's where the energy really comes alive.

Yes, and the difference here is that Joyful AF isn't just this like rando, like I'm gonna run this joy thing because I need joy and like joy is the answer and the direction and all of the like life purpose. But I'm not just like, ooh, here's this thing, let's run it. It's intentional, it's directional.

It's taking people somewhere.

Yeah, that was the huge, That was a huge flip for me.

Yeah.

Well, you're just like the best. I'm obsessed with you. What would you say to a woman who's listening to you and is like feeling that like, oh, like I feel like I have this like thing inside of me and I wanna bring it to life, but I feel like I keep not getting it right and like I can't figure, I don't wanna lose myself. Like, what would you say to the woman who is ready to, like, break the rules but also make bank?

Just, like, just move. Like, that, that's— it sounds so boring, maybe, um, but just move. Like, this part that's like, I'm not ready, or I keep getting it wrong, or I keep getting it wrong, I'm not doing it right, or, or whatever that is, like we move and we refine on the road. Like, there's so much value, or like the most value, in just like taking action. And even if it feels quote-unquote wrong, or like it didn't land, or whatever happens there, like that's refinement. Like, we learn from that. And this piece of— this piece right here is what holds so many women back. Is like, I'm not ready, I'm not doing it right, it's— I'm gonna do it wrong. And then that— this is where so much of our childhood stuff comes into— we're like, we're gonna be— I'm gonna be abandoned, no one's gonna ever love me again, nobody's gonna pay me again. Um, but that perfectionism is such a block to refinement and expansion. So like, honestly, best advice, just like, go. Just go. Whatever you're holding back on, cut it out. Just go, go, launch it, do the thing. Um, and then let's, like, let's add the strategy so it's actually working for you. Just simple structure.

I think I just— I'm so glad you said that because I remember when you first started with me and, and you said like, okay, cool, I'll just build that on the road. And I, like, I don't think I had ever had a client who was as comfortable with doing that as me. Like, I build everything on the road. That's just how I work, you know, like, and I don't— a lot of women don't operate like that, you know. And, and I believe that that's one of the reasons why you've been so successful and you'll continue to be successful, because of your willingness to just move.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yes.

And that's what you teach your women. Like, you move. I, I said in the beginning before we started recording, like, you were an activator. And that, that's so many— like, so many dreams go to the graveyard because women aren't moving.

Yeah.

And like, that's— it's heartbreaking, you know? And like, that's the gift of, of what you're doing in the world.

So yeah, yeah, just move. It's never failure. They'll—

it's kind of cliché, but the failing forward, like, yeah, you either win or you learn. I always say that.

Yeah.

Yeah. But you're not at the same place that you started, right?

At least.

Yeah, totally. That's a great message. I know that a lot of people needed to hear that today. Yeah. So for anyone listening, I just would so be grateful if you would just share, what would you say to anyone on the fence about joining The Opulence Mastermind?

Just get off the fence. Like, I don't— okay, I feel like I could give all sorts of advice here, but like, that's the baseline. Like, if you're, if you're waffling on this, like, you're called. Like, let's just be real. Get in here. Just, just do it. Like this. This is the thing. This is the catalyst. The catalyst. The catapult. Like, just get off the fence.

I love it.

Like, you're going to love these women. Everyone in here. Is going to be a good fit. Like, whatever fears are coming up for you, you know, you could listen to those fears and stay where you are for the next 6 months, or you could leap the fence, jump off the fence, whatever, and like change it. Get on the road.

Get on the road, build it on the road.

Yeah.

I love it.

Thank you. You're welcome.

What's next for you and your business? You've got launches coming. Well, we know exactly what's next because we've got it all mapped out. But tell the people, we're gonna link your Instagram and your sales pages because I know people are gonna be like, oh my God, she's amazing. So, but just kind of tell us like what your next 6 months in business look like. You're gonna be joining us for Opulence Round 3.

I am.

Yeah.

Opulence Round 3. Um, next for me in business, I have the next round of Firestarter is is on the way. That's the next thing rolling in that starts in the beginning of August. So that's a build or rebuild, launch and sell out a core offering. It's 3 months. It's a total Spitfire program. It's— I'm way in love with it. It's super potent. And then, and after that, I have a— I'm running a women's retreat in July. I guess it's before that. Women's retreat in July, and then I have a business retreat coming at the end of September for the women that we've talked about this whole hour. Um, and after that, we'll roll back into, uh, Firestarter and my Renegades Mastermind.

The path is clear.

Path is clear.

Yep.

It feels so good. I love it. I love it. And we definitely will share the info on your master— or your retreats, because I think like your in-person work is so amazing. And just to mention, like, your in-person work is now supporting your two programs and vice versa.

Yes.

They're all feeding each other, you know. It's not just like you're doing a one-off retreat, right? It's all part of the ecosystem.

Yeah, yeah. And if you're in Boulder or surrounding area, I'm gonna start running, uh, business workshops in person too.

Monthly.

Yes.

Which will be— again, it's— that's like a monthly in-person Party Method.

Yes, it is.

I love it. I love it. Well, Carly, thank you for coming on the show. I just— I mean, we fangirl over each other. I think you're like absolutely incredible, and I'm so excited to just create even more epic results over the next 6 months together. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you for trusting me and for sharing your story today.

Absolutely.

Thanks, Claire.

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