In this informal, talk‑show style dialogue, two hosts (Speaker A and Speaker B) explore what makes someone flirty, debate who should pay for dates and vacations, and discuss expectations of financial support in relationships. The conversation pivots to a personal story from Speaker A about a disastrous three‑day vacation in Puerto Rico with a man she barely knew, highlighting issues of control, safety, and disappointment—including being thrown off a banana boat, forced to buy shoes at Walmart, and feeling trapped. Speaker B shares a similar bad experience and offers advice about meeting people in person before traveling. The dialogue then shifts to Speaker B’s recent casting on the reality series Love & Hip Hop: Atlanta and her concerns about how reality TV might affect her eight‑year real‑estate career, ultimately deciding to embrace the opportunity. Throughout, the speakers exchange personal anecdotes, opinions on gender dynamics, and humor, providing insight into modern dating norms, power imbalances, and career branding.
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What, what is— what does make one flirty? Just being nice?
Mm-hmm.
Is that flirty?
Yeah, that's what it is. It's just if you're nice, or as the guys would say, too nice, you're flirty.
Is that true?
Cord? Nice is nice.
Nice is nice? What makes a woman flirty? We got 2 guys out here in the background and they're just looking at us like dumbfolded, like, what is— dumbfounded, I guess that's the word, right?
Flirty is a touch, it's a lot. It's her eyes, it's that nice smile.
It's the eyes.
It's the eyes. You definitely have the eyes. The pretty flirty eyes. Oh my gosh, this was my first sip in 6 months.
It's actually really nice.
I'm scared.
You're not gonna get drunk.
Okay.
People think I'm drinking like water or tea or something out of this. So okay, you say you do a lot of traveling.
I do a lot of traveling.
What is vacationing? Who's paying for vacations? You paying for vacations or your boo paying for vacations?
pays for vacations. However, I'm not the type of woman that won't pay. But there's just usually not an option with the type of men I deal with. Like, no, I got it. But I'm like, but I could, or let me buy dinner.
Let me—
I'll buy, I don't know, I'll buy something. What do you buy?
Water?
Yeah, I'll buy the waters. Like, I'm in the store grabbing bags of chips. But no, seriously, I definitely like to treat or spoil my man if he's worth it.
Huh? What? Okay, hold up. Because, you know, like, men always say, like, she got to be worth it. But what is a man worth it?
I feel like a man that's worth it for me is someone who makes my life easy. And that could go as small as just taking off the little things off your plate. Like, Oh, hey babe, I noticed you needed this, or you mentioned that, or I get my hair done like every 2 weeks and shit's expensive, you know, just, you know, oh, check your Cash App, here's your Apple Pay, like, just make my life easy, and then I'm gonna make your life easy.
So, okay, it's money then?
Yes.
Okay, girl, I don't know how you do it. I feel like you need to teach us how to do that because I can't ask for shit. I'm the one that's like, oh, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. Even like when I did the studio, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do— like, I can't let it go. Your control.
The control. Yeah, I, I still have a lot of control, I would say, but I kinda— I don't know, it's just a certain way I was raised. Like, what I saw my dad do for my mom and how she was treated, and, and it just kind of raised the bar. So I already expect that. But then I also was raised that a closed mouth doesn't get fed. So you don't speak up for yourself, it's like, I'm never afraid.
Like, wait, okay, so what do you say? How, like, how does one— I went on one vacation with a man, okay? It was a vacation from hell. Oh, and I will never do it. I'm literally— I will never do this again. Yes, he paid for everything, but I was like, man, get me the hell out of this fucking island.
Traumatizing.
I don't want to be here anymore. I like, it just, it ended so bad that I'm like, I don't, I don't ever want that to happen again. And like, yeah, he had money, he had all of this and that and like whatever, tall, dark and handsome, you know, like if you look at him, you're like— Did you feel stuck?
Like, oh my gosh, 2 more days, 24 more hours, like counting down.
It was horrible.
I know, that sucks.
I was literally, I was like—
I've been there once.
I wanna fly out and I just wanna go home. Like, I don't care that I'm in Puerto Rico and it's like, so whatever, whatever. I'm like, bitch, it's—
So my question for you, And it could be a quick answer. How well did you know him?
I didn't know him that well.
That plays the part. Like, I don't travel. I will never, never travel with a man that I don't know well because of that very reason. It's like, we get out of town, we're in this beautiful paradise, and I realize I don't even like you for real.
Like, no, I didn't like—
I actually don't like you.
Well, you know what? I guess like it was a lot of FaceTime conversations. I never met him in person, but I was like, I was on some shit though. Like, you know, sometimes something hits my head and I'm just like not thinking straight because I was Like, oh, it would be so fun to just go on vacation with a man that I've never met before. And he was like, do you want to meet up, like go to lunch or something when I'm in Atlanta? And I'm like, no, fuck that. Let's just meet in Puerto Rico. I met him.
Meet me in Puerto Rico on the beach. I'm not mad at that. But I would definitely say, like, if I'm talking to a guy who doesn't live here, you definitely have to come to Atlanta. We'll do a little dinner date, see if I like you in person. And then we'll go from there. But I mean, I'm not judging. I did the same thing and it was a trip from hell. And I'm literally sneaking in the bathroom calling my best friend like, I just wanna leave, get me outta here, save me. And I literally watched the clock the entire time.
Yeah, I literally got to the point where I called my friend and I was like, I think I wanna go home. And he's like, you want me to get you a flight? I'm like, bro, I don't know. But now I'm so nice. I'm like, man, what if I leave? Like, what happens? Like, I kind of feel bad. And I was just like, I feel like I'm just gonna— it's just 2 more days. What was it?
Just the chemistry was—
No, the guy, I think he like did some stupid— like he just was— I mean, okay, like we go on vacation, clearly I know that if you fly me out, I know we're not fucking trying to get married and shit. You don't have kids and stuff. But it was, it was like he just, he, he posted me on his Snapchat and then some other girls started going off on him and it's like, it was like all this drama and I hate drama. Don't put me in the fucking drama. If you dealing with bitches, deal with bitches, but I don't want to know about it. Like deal it on your own time, on your own terms. If we are on this 3-day vacation, vacation. We were on this 3-day vacation and then we went on, um, we did this like, uh, we did the, what is it, jet skis and then the banana boats and shit. We were on the banana boat. This motherfucker throws me into the ocean intentionally because it was just 2 of us. And mind you, it's like, it's like this man is 6'8, like, like big guy. And he was just like, threw me into the ocean. I was like, bro, I can be hurt right now.
Yeah.
Like, you can't— like, granted, I can swim. It got to the point where I was like, you know what, I'm just, I'm just gonna swim back. Like, I don't fucking wanna— I'm not even interested in this anymore. This is some shit, man.
Oh wow, I'm just gonna swim back. That's crazy.
I was so far from like from the beach too. I was like, honestly, at this point I feel like it would be more enjoyable for me to just like— just, I used to swim, so for me I was like, oh man, this just, this just feels like good old times.
Okay, well that makes sense.
Me, I would have been struggling like hell.
So no, it makes sense for you to swim back. I get it.
It just, it wasn't like the vibe. I mean, it wasn't it. Like, we didn't do nothing. It was just I'm like, man, what a fucking waste. And then he said some ruthless things to me too. And then we were like on the scooters, um, trying to like scoot around. And he was like, let's go to Walmart. The only thing this man did, he took me to Walmart and he bought me those $10 shoes. And I was dying laughing. I was like, man, not only did he take me to Puerto Rico, but he bought me like— it was my first purchase from Walmart for real. Like I never—
Are these like some trendy shoes or something?
No, we just were supposed to go like out on like excursion or some shit. And it was 4th of July, so like everything was booked out, everything was sold out, and we needed some like shoes. And I was like, well, I don't have any shoes that we can just, you know—
It's like, follow me, I'm gonna take you somewhere.
Yeah, he's like, let's go to Walmart. I'm like, damn, yeah, let's go. Like other men, this— well, it wasn't a date or anything, it's just my friend who's like, let me take you to Waffle House. I just went to Waffle House first time in March.
Really? Wow.
Never been to Waffle House.
Atlanta staple. You definitely have to go to Waffle House.
Yo.
At 4 AM?
No, it was during the day.
We're driving back to Miami. Okay, well.
See this? I'm exploring shoes from Walmart to fucking Waffle House.
Hey, real Atlanta.
And they think that I'm like dating some, you know, some— they think that I'm dating either Cam Newton or Paul Pierce. I'm like, great.
Oh, damn.
Yeah, no, hell no.
No, no, no, I was saying like, that's, that's the word on the—
that's the word on Google and on the street.
Oh wow.
Yes.
Okay. I'm gonna sip my champagne tea.
But the word on the street— well, it wasn't really on the street. You were in a very public relationship.
Sheesh, I was.
And you ended up on the reality TV because of that, right?
I did. So it was because of the relationship that you had that I ended up being a— well, one of the newest cast members of Love Hip Hop. Atlanta. Um, I had a lot of pushback for months. Like, I did not want to do it. I did not want to do it because I didn't think it would, um, help me in any kind of way. I actually thought it would hurt my brand versus help it because I am in real estate. I've been in real estate for 8 years, and you know, you have to keep a certain image. Let's just be honest.
Of course.
You know, I'm like, I'm not going on there and arguing with nobody and fighting. Like, I'm a real estate professional. So it's like, I thought it would hurt my brand. And then I just said, you know what, you're in your head about it. You are who you are. People like you. You're a classy woman. Just, just do it. Be yourself.
Because it wasn't really that dramatic. I saw some clips. I never watched the episodes, but it wasn't really that dramatic. No.
