People Think I'm an Industry Plant… Am I?

Hey guys, welcome back to Talk Less Show, where conversations go a little bit deeper than the surface. And today has been a fun day. Um, the last couple of Fridays, people have been standing me up. And so last Friday, I just decided to go home because I was like, you know what, I hate doing solos. But this Friday, I kind of have a responsibility because I had one of my friends pull up and do my hair and my makeup. And she was like, I just want to make sure that, you know, you can post your videos. I just decided that maybe it would be such a good idea to do a solo episode because I haven't done solos in so long. And I think because people have only seen this new channel, they've only seen this kind of like new journey. I never really talk about myself. I talk about myself a little bit, but I don't really give the whole picture about who I am. What do I do? Where I came from? Am I an industry plant? Am I not an industry plant? You know, because I feel like people have this, this whole idea of me that, oh, where is this girl coming from? Why is she, you know, why is she popping? How does she get all these people on her show? And then I get invited to go on so many podcasts. But the thing is, every time I go, I feel like people only ask me 3 questions. Why do you date Black men? Why don't you consider yourself white? And, um, you know, were you a professional tennis player? Those are the 3 things that they talk about. But I feel like there's so much more to me than than just, you know, those 3 things. And it's like, yes, it sounds good for social media. It sounds amazing because, you know, it's a very polarizing topic that we can talk about, but you don't really know the actual story behind what happened, right? So I'ma tell you this whole story about how we even ended up here. And I don't know if this is going to do well or not because I'm not really a solo person. I don't like to talk to the camera myself, and I feel like I'm getting so shy, but Moneybag was telling me that I need to go do stand-up. So we're going to try. We're going to try, and hopefully it works. And if you hate it, then you let me know. I will never do it again. This is Talk Less. Talk less, do more. I'm just trying because last year, so when I started the show, I had the show hosted on a completely different channel. It was hosted on a Quartzsite Less channel. So the episode with Charleston White or the episode with Space God actually is still on that channel. And what was going on back in the day, which was around December timeline, I started getting really upset because I had a full-time job. So I worked for Fortune 500 company. I was in tech sales. I was specifically selling data integration and AI software. And that's what people were asking me, like, what were you doing? And so I had to go on a leave just so I can focus on the show because it was really tough to manage. My corporate job and the show. And I felt like this is where my heart is. And I couldn't really mentally be in that corporate world setting because it was just so draining. And I felt like I was doing things that I truly did not like. Also, they didn't have any systems. They were not listening to me. It was just, it was, it was kind of like very chaotic. And so I felt like I need to get the hell out of there. But what I wanted to do, I wanted to learn what it's like to be inside a Fortune 500 company. So I wanted to actually take some time to understand what kind of processes they're running, what's their strategy, strategy, where they're going, how do they, you know, form their teams, how do they know who to, you know, where to invest, you know, what to invest, what kind of like little companies that they're always buying out. It was because again, it's a Fortune 500 company, so it's a big one. So I kind of did my due diligence. I was there for about like 6 months roughly, and then for 6 months I was on leave. So I was technically still employed up until a couple weeks ago. And it kind of hit me that, hey, if I'm going to do the podcast, I need to make sure that I'm going to run this podcast as a business because it's not just us sitting down and having conversations, but it's also us sitting down and bringing something that's either educational, that's entertaining, or just conversations that everybody can have. Because like on a regular day, a regular basis, we have so many different conversations with so many different people and Sometimes I feel like, man, I wish I could record those. So that's when I took the leap of faith. But at the same time, I was posting on YouTube, I was posting on Spotify and all these other audio platforms, and the show was just like not doing numbers. You know, I would have some really big guests who would have millions of followers. They would come through and I would have 300 views on my YouTube. I would have like 400 or 500 views on my YouTube. I think like the most I got was with Charleston White. It was like 300-something thousand views, but that was because Charleston White. So at the time I had to take I'm going to take the matters into my hands and figure out what's going on and how can I actually make sure that if I were to leave corporate jobs, how can I fully go on into the podcasting? So I happened to stumble across this one person on YouTube. His name is Trey Moe. So if you ever want to learn things about YouTube, you can go on Learn with Trey. If you go on that channel, you can find so much stuff about YouTube and it's like, it's the game that he put me on. Game. But basically when I found his channel, I was like, I need to get a hold of this man. I need to figure out what he— how— what can I do in order to make a change? And so I can like actually be seen and my content can be discovered by people. So I had to pull back from posting the show for about— I shot about 50 episodes or so. So I shot about 50 episodes last year because I was doing the podcast the entire year. And when I started working with Trey, he told me, you have to hide all of the episodes that you have done and start a whole new channel. And I said, you are out of your mind, because I have 30,000 subscribers on that channel. How can I just let it go? And he was like, well, you either can continue working with that channel that's giving you 300 views, or you're gonna start a new channel and we're gonna build this whole thing up from the ground up. When I tell you I was going through it mentally, I said, no, I ain't doing this shit. This is crazy. Like, this is actually insane. He was like, trust me, just trust me. So I had to blindly trust somebody that I found off YouTube to continue with this journey, right? So we basically hit all of the episodes, every single thing that we've done. We hit, we hit all my solo episodes that I was doing. And I didn't know what I was doing back at the time. I was just, I would just tell some random ass stories and just some things that I would think would go viral or like would be like out of the norm, you know, non-conventional, whatever. So we hit all of the 50 episodes. He made sure that I am completely redesigning all of my stuff. He was like, basically you need kind of like relaunch your show. So you need to redesign the thumbnails, you need to redo the logo, you need to redo the whole concept of it. And you have to strategize because before I thought I was just going to— I'm just going to shoot the shit and I'm just going to post it and that's what's going to somehow, some way it's going to find its audience. And it was not doing that, right? So I had to really sit down and strategize on how I'm going to approach this. And at the time, by grace of God, I got so fortunate that I had such a big lineup of people. So I would always go play places, and I would always meet people. And I was just, just literally, like, determined myself to go out so I can get connected to the people at the time who I thought were, like, bigger than the universe, just because to me, like, I look up to those people. And so I shot the episodes with Mandy B at the time. I shot the episode with Stephan Speaks, which was huge for me. It was such a big deal to just even, like, come across him. And, um, that episode with Stephan Speaks I think it was back in December. That's when I shot 4 episodes back to back. It was just in one week. I shot so many, and I had them all in the vault. But the question was, do I drop them on the old channel or do I drop them on the new channel? And I just did the episode with Space God. And so mind you, Space God is going viral, but I'm posting on my channel and it didn't even do 1,000 views at the time. I literally did not even push 1,000 views. We tried to search it. He kept calling me. He's like, hey, I can't pull it up. It's not coming up on YouTube. So something is going on. Then I had to learn how to basically podcast and what to do and how to find sponsorships and how to just like figure it all out. So I had to pull back, not post for a couple of weeks, and I had to start a whole new channel from scratch. And so when I first started this channel, I dropped some of the old episodes and I dropped the new episodes because I panicked and I thought that maybe this is going to be Maybe this is going to be searchable. Maybe this is going to, like, do better. And I'm just going to, you know, I dropped the first episode with Jonathan, Rich and Unemployed, Vanessa, because I know that he's a big YouTube person. And it didn't do what it had to do. So I'm sitting there, I was like, Trey, you are joking. I am not doing this. And literally, just by grace of God, Cam Newton reaches out to me. Literally, Cam, it was the most random thing in the world because I kept posting my tennis content and it kept going viral. Every single thing that I would post with tennis, it would just go viral again and again and again, like 600,000 views, 200,000 views, like 100,000 views. And he reached out to me to play pickleball with him. And I said, oh my God, this is my chance. This is truly my chance. Like, I had Cam Newton on my dream guest list for so long. And I kind of like, because I DM'd him, I thought like, there's no way he's going to respond or he's going to see me or anything of a kind. And he responded and he was like, hey, I would want to play pickleball with you. And I want you to— and I was like, yeah, I want you to come on my show. And so he's like, bet. Because now, now I figured I have to get something out just because You know, you gotta strike while it's hot. So we, when we played pickleball, he came on the show. It was probably like the most nerve-wracking moment for me because I'm sitting across somebody who is so gigantic in any, any kind of like sense, right? He's, he's a big persona in the sports world, in the media world. He's building his media empire. And it just so happened that, you know, we did the episode and this is something that I talked about on some other podcasts, but I don't know if people actually have seen those. So when I shot the episode with Cam Newton, and I kept it in the vault for about 3 weeks. I didn't drop it right away because I was still trying to strategize and figure out what's the best way to do it. We had to redesign the thumbnails, we had to redesign the logo. So it took some time to do that. And again, it's all me doing all that stuff. I don't have a big team behind me. It was literally me. And I kept calling Tremo just asking for all of the, you know, feedback and just strategy. Like, how do I do this? And he would just be like, okay, you do this. He helped me out to create the thumbnail. So we had to completely go to a different platform to design the thumbnails. And when I sat down to edit Cam Newton's episode, I messed up. I messed up because my cat jumped on my keyboard and she deleted half of the, like, 25 minutes of the episode. I already talked about that on, I think it was Moneybagg's episode. But when I dropped the episode, I dropped the wrong one. I literally dropped the wrong file and I premiered it. And when you premiere the wrong thing, You have to take it down because I know that this is a really big guess. So I'm like, oh my God, how can I make such a big fuck up? Because that, like, literally it could have cost me everything. Like, at this point, I am a month away or like 2 weeks away from leaving corporate job. And I have to, you know, I'm like now trying to bet on everything with my podcast. I just pulled a sponsor for that episode. And when I dropped the episode, I have to take it down. So, you know, mind you, I had editors for the short-form content. So they were ready to go. So that was ready to go. But the long-form form was all messed up because I was doing it all on my own. So I had to take it down. I had to re-upload the episode, put it on YouTube. And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna just let it be. And when I wake up the next day, I wake up to 26 views. I wake up to 26 views on YouTube. And I said, you know what, I just started this whole new YouTube journey with this new channel, and clearly it's not working. Because what do you mean an episode with Cam Newton is getting 26— 26 views? Like, mind you, you can post anything on YouTube, you will more views than that. 26. It was just, it was heartbreaking. I'm not gonna lie. So when I posted that, I was like, yeah, I'm done. I, you know, this is how I do it with my team. My team knows, they're like, you're the most emotional, dramatic person in the world. So I was like, you know what, this is it. This is it. I'm giving up. This is, mind you, right at the time Carlos Miller started following me on Instagram. And I, man, the moment I saw that follow, I was like, follow back, DM right away. I'm like, man, we gotta, you know, we gotta get in the studio, we gotta shoot the episode. And I was like, you know, it'd mean the world to me if you can come on my show and do the episode. So I would think he would charge or something of a kind. And he was like, nah, I'm gonna pull up. Like, let's schedule the day. He's like, you know, I'm traveling right now, but we can find the time. So I already filmed an episode with Carlos Miller at the time and he was supposed to be dropping next. So I have this episode with Cam that's doing 26 views. I'm just giving up on life. I'm like, this is it, this is done. I'm, I'm, I'm done. This is, this is, this is stupid. If I, if Cam Newton's episode is gonna do 50 views, then it's pointless. And then people were all over, people were telling me, hey, the most important thing is that you got Cam, you filmed the episode, you have that footage. That's like, that alone is bigger than the world. And I'm like, no, it's not. To me, it's, it's pathetic. Like, how can I put so much work into it and it's not giving me the, the rewards that I need from it? So when we. Dropped— I'm just sitting the next day, I'm sitting on the floor crying, like just losing my mind because it was the most insane feeling you can pop. Like I called my mom and I was like, mom, I made the wrong choice. I said, I fucked up with my life yet again. She was like, what you mean? I'm like, well, nothing is working out for me. I'm trying to do this corporate thing. Like I can't succeed in there. I'm trying to do this podcast thing. I can't succeed in there. I'm trying to do this content creation thing. I can't succeed in there. And she's like, what you mean you can't succeed? And I'm like, well, but how, how I don't see no, no, like there's no growth, there's no improvement. So in my mind, I feel like I'm just useless and I'm worthless and I'm just wasting my time. She's like, what do you mean? Like you are going viral almost every other day. You are doing so much, like you're posting, you're, you know, you're trying. So she was like, just stay consistent. Then Mr. Igenik calls me. Mr. Igenik is like, Lesya, one thing I'm gonna tell you, stay consistent. I don't care how many views it gets. Like you are the star. You got it. Like you can keep going. I, man, I just did it. I was like, you know what, fuck it. I'mma just let it be. So I put all my furniture together because I just moved to this new apartment. And mind you, like, I moved to this new apartment, which is more expensive than what I had before. So now I'm like, I have to pay the bills and I don't have the funds to pay the bills. I'm just like, I'mma have to give the money back to the sponsor because I can't take the money for 50 views on an episode. That's just embarrassing. Like, I mean, I would never do that. Like, I cannot do it.. And the next thing you know, Fred from I Say This to Say That podcast reached out to me and he said, hey, I'm trying to find your interview with Cam Newton because I saw you just dropped it. So can you send me the link? He's like, I'm searching for it, but it's not there. And I'm like, yeah, don't worry about it. It doesn't exist. It's just, man, I'm about to take it down. Just forget about it. I was like, you know what? Because he just booked me to go to Miami. I said, you know what? I am nobody. I'm not doing none of that. Just forget it. He's like, what you mean? And so I go on YouTube and I find that interview and I'm like, but here's the if you want to watch it, like, just whatever. And I go and I see it's like 600 views. I'm like, oh, wait, hold up. Then it's like 1,000 views. Then it's— so it started slowly picking up. And I reached out to Cam and I said, Cam, is there a chance in this universe that you can possibly repost this link to the podcast on your story? And Cam was like, respectfully, I have done more than enough, and I'm not going to do that because we didn't agree on that. So I was like, you know what, I appreciate that, and that's, that's, that's fine. Fine. Because I was like, I truly, truly appreciate what you have done for me. So it is what it is. And he's like, yeah, all love, but just it is what it is. And I kind of knew that that's what was going to happen. So I'm like, how do I promote this? And I'm not going to run ads on it. I'm not going to do none of that. And the next thing you know, this is how God works in mysterious ways. I get a message from Shay, who is the producer on Poor Minds podcast, and she's like, Les, I just saw you on the blogs. And I was like, wait, what? So I started getting DMs one after another with all these blogs picking up, like Spiritual World, Hollywood Unlocked, I mean, Daily Mail, man, what did not post? Like every single just like gossip, all of them, they picked up the interview. So they dissected it and they talked about I like volunteers, I don't like hostages. Cam Newton is on this interview. The next thing I know, my face is on all of the blogs. It's all over. There's screenshots. And everywhere that I see the screenshots, I see that there is a logo, my sponsor's logo on the bottom. And I'm like, oh my God, wait, I think I did the right thing because I was like, if I put the logo on the bottom, then potentially, if in case it does get picked up by the blogs, they're going to promote it regardless. So we're getting more views on the sponsor's branding and also on my show. So it got picked up and I'm like, oh my God, holy shit. So I text my editor for the shorts. I was like, hey, I think we're still on, like, let's drop the episode with Carlos next. Like, we're going to drop it next week. And he goes, okay, bet. Like, you know, give me a couple of days. So I said, you know, you literally have 3 days. I don't have more time because at this point it's Sunday. I drop my episodes on Thursday. So I was like, you know, take 3 days, but at least give me a teaser. And so if we don't have the teaser, then that's kind of me kind of like problematic. Just give me the teaser, get me one clip so I can post that so we can promote that. And I reached out to Carlos and I was like, hey, Carlos, he my bestie because I asked him to be my bestie on the show. And I was like, hey, um, is there a chance that you can accept a collab? He's like, what you mean? Send me all of them. And I'm like, wait, what? He's like, yeah, send me all the collabs. I'm accepting everything, just whatever you got. He's like, you got a dope thing going for yourself. And I'm like, Carlos, um, I don't think so. I'm a fuck-up. I, uh, kind of like messed up a little bit. And he's like, just keep going, don't worry about this. Like, just, just keep posting. So So kind of this whole thing with Cam is dying down, but the blogs are still like— for about a week they kept picking it up. And then the next thing you know, for the first time ever, my show page picked up the, um, my show page, the, the reel that I posted on my show page with Cam. I thought it was like the most, the lamest short in the world, and I posted. I was like, yeah man, whatever, because I'm at this point I'm in Miami because I have to film all this other podcast that I got invited to, AKA shout out to Goldie, The Game God, and I Say This to Say That podcast. So I was like, it was just like a a random night I was sitting in Miami in my hotel room. I was like, you know, let me just post this reel and see whatever happens. All of a sudden this thing is picked up to 200-something thousand views. And I'm like, wait, this is crazy. So now my show page is an algorithm. It's like, now it's optimized. Now it's going viral. And then I start posting clips with Carlos. And the first 48 hours of the episode on YouTube with Carlos did like 1,000 views. So I was like, you know what, I mean, I'm content with 1,000 because like the thing is that people don't understand, if you get 1,000 views on YouTube, that's pretty big, you know, that's pretty big. So I was like, this is cool. But I also understand you can't make a living off 1,000 views on YouTube. And I don't know how, what, but also I understand this is Carlos Miller, is like, you know, he's one of the biggest people off YouTube. If you search, like, he pulls millions and millions and millions of views. Like, on average, his, his YouTube videos do anywhere from 100,000 to 500,000 just on average. So all of a sudden it's picking up and it hits the first 100,000 views. And I'm like, yo, this is crazy. And this is when people are like, oh, she's an industry plant. How is she getting Cam Newton? How is she getting Carlos Miller? How is she getting— I'm telling you, it's just, I've been doing this for about a year and a half now. And I just, I have my vision of how I wanted to do the show, right? I want, I wanted to do it in a certain way where it would have some sort of strategy behind it. And I wanted to run it as a business. And I wanted to make sure that I provide value to people, especially if they're trying to invest in me or invest my time. If they invest their time into me, then that's, that's, that's perfect. I'm cool with it. So that episode with Carlos is just picking up. And then the next thing you know, people start interacting with the show. Now they're like, wait, where is this girl coming from? Because all they see is like 5 or 6 episodes on that new page. And they see like this big names, but we already pre-planned that, that strategy-wise, it would make sense to draw big names. So, you know, we can get some, some viewership on the channel. And it kind of worked. The strategy worked because I was sitting there, I was like, Mom, I am so glad that you told me I'm not useless and I'm not worthless, that I actually am worth something and I know a thing or two. But I'm just so impatient with everything. And that's one thing people don't understand about me. I just want it. I want it yesterday. I don't want it tomorrow or now. I want it yesterday. And if it doesn't happen yesterday, then it's like, it's not going to work. And so a lot of people start asking me about all this relationship stuff. And then they see, they're like, oh, this girl, where is she coming from? She's so pretty. She's so that. Listen, I'm crazy. You don't want me. I'm going to tell you that I'm crazy. You don't want me. I'm not the person that you would want to just randomly or casually date just because I'm too demanding. I work too much. I want too much. I'm not really that girl that you see. Oh, she's just a pretty girl. She's sweet. She's that and this. No, no, no. And every single time when we have guests on, we always obviously dive into relationships. But I feel like with the show, with the progression of the show, the further I go, the more confused I get with, like, what do I feel about relationships? Do I want to be in one? You know, how do you date? Like, at this point, I don't even know. It's very hard to, like, separate me, Lesya, from, you know, my regular life and Talk Less Show, like, Les on the show. And it's like, sometimes it just, like, gets bland. So now I feel like I have this, like, bipolar disorder where which one is which. And the further you go, you're like, oh my God, this is like, this is a whole universe of people that you can discover. And I get so many men that I talk to. And so to me, I've just always been so curious about why do men think the way they think? Why do women think the way they think? But most of the time, because I know a lot of women going to say, oh, men suck, men are this, men are that. And then that's why I'm like, I want to sit down across from men and see, can we actually have a conversation? And so when I started doing the show, my whole thing was like, I just want to create a space where you can have a conversation with anybody. And, you know, about anything. AKA, like, sitting across from Charleston White. Like, a lot of people sit across from him and they get this, you know, this fire persona that just storms out of the interview. And I just wanted to sit down with him and give him space to talk. Same thing with Cam Newton. But at the same time, like, I have to make sure that I can create the narrative and I can control the conversation to the point where people are gonna give me something that they haven't talked about before. Like, you know, Cam said that he doesn't do hostages, he likes volunteers. And at the same time, like, I reached out to him and I was like, you know, I'm so confused why the only thing about you is marriage. Like, why is the only thing that concerns people? There's so much more to you that people can get to know and go in depth about, but that's the only thing that they care for, which has no impact or effect in their lives. Same thing with, like, Carlos was a great, um, Carlos was a great example of doing this whole narrative because I've known this idea. I've had this idea of, hey, how are Black people similar to Russian people for about a year now? I literally, I remember it was April last year when I thought of it and I tried to kind of have a conversation about it, but it just didn't work the way that I wanted to work. So I had to really come up with a structure of how do I do that? And then people also ask me, how do you come up with all that structure? How do you come up with all those questions? I do a lot of deep research. I'm a very big fan of using AI and understanding like, how can I provide something that people have not seen before? How can I provide value to my viewers, right? Whether it's through comedy, especially if, you know, I don't really know much about the person, I will do like kind of like a very high-level search on them. And then I go deep into, okay, like those are the things that I want to know. And I'm going to structure the questions based on— there's a book called Super Communicator. So I'll structure the questions based on that book. I will have, I will kind of like find something that's interesting. And a lot of times people get mad at me that I'm drilling people or I'm going, but why? Because to me, it's important to understand why do you think the way you think? Why do you say things the way you say them? Or why you doing certain things the way you do them? Because it's, it's important. Everybody is different. Like people are going to have their own ways. And so for me, it's important to get that out. Like, with Nav, it was the funniest thing when he said, I take one for the team when there's no team. And it's just— it was unbelievable. I mean, Nav was like one of the funniest people to film with. Moneybagg, that was also so fun. Another thing that I also understand that people are saying— this is the other thing that I get a lot. They say that I fetishize Black people, and I'm like, I have an obsession with Black people. And I'm like, listen, There's one thing you gotta understand about where I'm located at. I live in Atlanta. I live in the heart of Black Hollywood. There is a lot of big production out here. There's a lot of big content creators out here. There's a lot of podcasters out here. There's a lot of actors, athletes, and so on and so forth. And majority of them are gonna be Black. And I wanna sit across from people who are very interesting and who I can have a very good conversation with. Somebody who is gonna give me a good product that I can give to you guys. So that's the most important thing, and that's the reason why I have so many Black people on. I've reached out to a few people who are white, but they haven't responded. So, you know, if they're not interested, then they're not interested. Malik said that he's going to put me on with Gary Owens, I think, and, um, Theo Von. But I know that you guys are very much interested in bringing more of 85 South show on. You are very curious about, um, I get the most Jack Thriller, Clayton English, Chico Bean, DC Young Fly. So one thing about me, you know, I don't stop working. So I'm definitely going to bring those people on. I definitely will have really fun conversations with them. And I feel like with this year, with this new channel, people see more of me, like the actual side of me where I'm just like goofy, sometimes naive, sometimes oblivious. That's another thing that I've learned this year. In the last couple of months, I'm like, wow, I'm the most oblivious person in the world. Sometimes I wouldn't even know that somebody likes me or cares for me because in my mind I'm like, oh no, they don't care. They don't like me. They're just doing this and that because it's so much trauma that I have not healed from. And just as of recently, there was somebody who was my very close friend that kind of potentially could turn into something more. But I'm like, wait, hold up. You care about me like that? That's crazy. I was just like, wow, I'm so oblivious. Because you would think that you're— think like I'm a smart person, but now I'm like, not really. Okay, so I also wanted to go through some of the things that people have asked me or some of the concepts that I've seen online about me. And if we want to jump back to dating, Okay, I always ask my, my, my guests that, do you think that people want to date you for you or for the idea of you? And that's something that I can so relate to because I know that a lot of times now people are coming at me because they see the way I look or the way I speak or the things that I got going on. And so I feel like for them, it's more becoming of a— they're like more fans versus they want to actually date me as a person, like me as Lesya. Because a lot of times it would be like, oh, tell me more about this person, or give me access to that person. And I don't mind doing that. I have literally no problem doing that. But it's just sometimes it's kind of like, man, what is it that— why can't you just like me for me? Why can't you just like me without all of this stuff that I got going on? Because to me, it's all normal, right? To me, it's just something that I'm fully stepping into. Sometimes I feel like, oh, I'm not there just yet. I feel like I'm stepping one foot in, one foot out because I'm not fully cool and popular. But I also do know that sometimes I go outside and people recognize me and it's so special to me. People want to take pictures with me. But then some people would take pictures with me and then they would be like, oh my God, I have a crush on you. I didn't want to tell you that. Or they would DM me or message me, hey, I have a crush on you. And then I would get messages with, hey, let's go on a date here and there. And I'm like, you didn't even ask me if I want a date. Like, you didn't even ask me if I'm in that headspace right now. And a lot of times I'm gonna tell you guys, no, I'm not in that headspace. Because when you have to build something from the ground up, especially when it's just you doing everything, you have no mental capacity to go into relationships, especially somebody like me, because I'm a very anxious person. So like, if you don't give me the full safety and comfort and vital I don't know you, know you, I'm going to get out of there real quick. I'm not going to go into it. Also, this is another thing that people have asked me about, the self-awareness and how I am as a person. And as you can probably tell by things that I've shared so far, I overthink so much. I'm such a deep thinker that sometimes there's so many different conversations that are going in my mind. This thorough inner dialogue where I don't have— I'm not so nice to myself. I'm very nice to other people, but I'm not really nice to myself. I'm very hard on myself. I feel like I'm not doing enough. I feel like I'm not doing a good job. Sometimes anxiety takes over because I worry about tomorrow. Like, oh, am I going to get a sponsor? Am I going to get the views? Am I going to get the— you know, how am I creating the good product? Do people care about the stuff that I create? Do people want to watch? Do people— do I make people mad? And as much as I don't I don't really engage in hate and all that stuff online because, you know, clearly I see all the comments and I just don't really choose to interact with them unless people are really, like, really honing in and like, hey, we need your response. I will respond. But also what people don't understand is like a lot of stuff is taken out of the context, right? And so obviously when we put a snippet on social media, it's something that I know is going to hit. I know that that's going to make people mad. Certain concepts that, you know, they're going to make people mad. So that's what we put out there. And I don't know how to just be very content. I always want more. I'm always chasing something. I'm never in that mode when I just slow down and do nothing. It's very rare. I'm always like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. So that's another thing about me that people don't understand. That's why I'm able to build what I'm building, because I want more. And if I don't know something, I'm going to do some research or I'm going to find out where I can get some information from it, or I'm going to reach out to people and ask for help. That's the biggest thing about me. If I build relationships or connections with people who come on my show, I will use them as my resource at all times. If I need to get access to certain guests, if I need to get access to certain information, or if I just need advice, I will. And Cam was one of the best people to do so because he was like, you need to do Snapchat, you need to do you need to do that. So he gave me a lot of information that was super useful. And so a lot of times when I deal with people who are on a much higher level, sometimes they, they ask me things and I'm like, wait, what? You wanna know what I'm doing? And then I find out that like the way that I'm doing things is not really how a lot of the podcasts are doing it. Or just this whole strategy that I took with YouTube. I don't know that many people that did that. So it's kind of cool. It's kind of cool to know that, you know, you kind of, you kind of, you know, you kind of know some of your shit. Um, so also I think another question was about the purpose and why do I want to, you know, why do I want to, like, why did I want to build the show and what do I want to do with it? Obviously I want to create, I want to build like kind of like an empire out of this. But at the same time, if I do have some network that would want to put me on on their network come at me and propose something, I would be more than happy to partner up because I do understand that there is a lot of power behind having a team. Um, I don't think it's going to be something that I would sell out to a very, very, very big network. I would do something that's on a smaller level because I feel like I can be beneficial and I just have this desire to do strategy. I love doing that. I love doing strategy. I love doing creative work. I love doing something that could be beneficial and I have so much background in business and understanding how the business works, just how you can put it all together and how you can position yourself. So that's something that I want to do with the show. And also, just like I said, I want to create conversations that people don't really talk about, or just conversations that could be so difficult, but then you can kind of have them in a joking manner where it becomes comedy, where it's kind of like it's so messed up that it's kind of funny at this point. And I feel like I've been doing a good job with that. So I don't know, I just kind of talked a lot about different things and I had some questions that were asked on Instagram. So I want to answer those questions because those were— okay, so somebody asked, what was your first job? My first job? Was playing, uh, was coaching tennis. I made $40. The first $40 that I made was coaching tennis. And so like I actually started my whole journey with the US started with me playing tennis. If it wasn't for tennis, I would never stay here. So I played tennis and I coached tennis and I had a bunch of different kids that I was coaching. And then I got picked up by the academy. So I was coaching at the academy. I was going to school full-time coaching. And then my first, uh, corporate job was I was, um, a contractor at Google cuz I lived in the Bay Area. So I was doing the, I was like kind of like a quality specialist. And then I was working with the Russian language. So it was like a search language specialist. So I was doing like quality QA for Russian language. It was like back in the day they had the Google Assistant thing and the one that you can talk to right now. So that's, I was testing those queries out. So that's what I did as my first corporate job. And then from there, I hated the whole engineering side of it. I moved into sales and I found it to be more interesting because you get to talk to so many people, you get to learn about their businesses. And I'm a very curious person by nature. So it kind of was something that was fitting into my personality, into my lifestyle. So that's how I ended up being in sales. And I've been in sales for damn near 10 years now. So, and kind of like now it's, it's so cool because I get to do things that I've learned in corporate world and apply it to myself, to my own brand and grow with it, which is like, wait, I couldn't even possibly think that that's where I would be at, at this point of time. Time. Um, somebody said, what was my first car? My first car was BMW 2007. It was the 328i, the ones that were recalled at most. So yeah, that was the first car that I had, and it just— it gave me so many problems. Okay, and then let's do the last one. Um, why do you believe in horoscope? I don't know, I just— I like that kind of stuff. I think it's so cool to believe in horoscopes. I don't know why people keep asking me that, like, why do you always talk about the Mercury in retrograde? If you watch my Instagram, Instagram stories, I talk about Mercury in retrograde or I talk about like different planets. I just feel like that there is so much more than just what we physically can see. I think that there's energy behind everything and anything. And I don't know necessarily if that's the truth or if it's something that's just guiding your inner intuition towards things that you want to kind of like, you want to happen. And so I don't really live by horoscopes. I believe in those. I, you know, I was, I was just on the Intrusive Thoughts podcast I did the show with G. She's also coming on Talk Less Show. And I asked her about the tarot cards and she's like, why everybody thinks about tarot cards? I'm like, because it's the coolest thing. Like, now I feel like it's something that people have been doing for so long and now it's become this popular thing that everybody is getting into where, like, they do the readings on tarot. And I feel like, I don't know if it has— I don't know, because I feel like it has a much deeper meaning than what we give it to., but it's a fun thing to do. It's kind of fun to, you know, to kind of just, um, just play with it. I like, I like to, you know, I like to, I don't like to fortune tell, but I kind of, I'm a person who likes to know what's gonna happen tomorrow. And in case like this, when guests stand me up, I'm like, oh my God, this is like, I hate that. No. And I hate when I can't control things. And so it's kind of hard to, you know, that's, I have to anchor to something, whether whether it's God, whether it's just listening to some meditation music, worship music, just something that can give you some peace of mind for tomorrow. Because as many of you know, you guys, I'm here on my own. I haven't seen my family in almost 10 years. So sometimes I just need to anchor to something that's going to just keep me sane, because otherwise I can go insane with everything that's been going on in this universe and in this world. And people thinking that I'm an industry plant and that I got a whole big team behind me, which is Which is great. Which is great. I think Hakeem Ali said that I want you to continue saying that you're an industry plant and you have a big team behind you because it means that you, what you're doing has a look as if there's like a million dollar production behind you. And somebody else who's coming on my show who's been very, very much asked for, um, I got in contact with him a couple days ago and he was like, damn, I thought that you had like a million dollar production behind you. I'm like, I wish, but hey, if that's what we, if this is how we look, then I'm happy. I'm content. I am going to continue going and continue producing things. And I also want you guys to tell me more of what you want to see. Do you want to see the solos? Do you want to see more interviews? Do you want to see more kind of like maybe more variety of people? Do you want to see— because I had some— somebody was asking me to bring just like a regular person and tell their story. Or just because like I, I right now I want to, I want to interview people who are kind of on the level just because because it's a good, I think it's a good skill to have and it's very cool to also learn from people. But if not, then let me know and we'll bring others on the show. And I know a lot of people are reaching out like, how can I get on the show? How can I get on the show? I cannot physically accept everybody to come on the show because there is a lot of money that goes into it. So it's all paid out of the pocket. So now that it's my full-time job, I got to be very careful with who I bring on because it's a big expense. And right now we're just not in the place where we can afford to have a lot of people. But that being said, there's something that we're in the works with, is doing live shows. So whenever you're gonna start doing live shows, then that way we can actually bring more people out and we can have conversations with more people. And there's a chance for you to just end up on my platform. So I don't know if you like this episode. If you don't like this episode, you let me know, I will never do it again. But other than that, I feel like I've said enough. And if you hated it, just let me know. Anyways, like, comment, share, subscribe. Um, talk less, show. I mean, we're just getting started, so let me know what you want to see more of, and I'll see you guys on the next one. Bye!