Ep. 19 Cryotherapy

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I think the best part about whole body crowd therapy is it's quick, it's effective, and you know, you don't have to do an ice bath and get wet. It's a dry process and so it doesn't feel as cold as it is.

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Hey, good morning, Brian. I'm good. How are you?

Good. I'm just admiring your wallpaper you have on your Zoom of the nice Christmas festivities. I see a nice fireplace and you really pay attention to detail and are doing it up today.

It's pretty nice and cozy.

I love it. I love it.

I don't even have to have a real house anymore. You could just be on Zoom for everything.

That's how most people are doing it these days. Are you looking forward to Christmas?

Yeah, you know, I am. It's been a weird process this last few months and you know, we're in Colorado and, and we have had the weirdest fall and winter. It doesn't even feel like winter. We've had no snow. What's the temperature today?

So the temperature today is gonna be 65 degrees. And that's why I'm excited that we're doing a podcast today on cryotherapy because we're bringing the cold to winter today.

Right? We gotta encourage it. Maybe with our cryotherapy encouragement, there'll be a winter storm so I can ski on Monday. This is all I want.

I think we're gonna make magic happen today. I think that everybody's gonna owe us a big thank you for having some snow because of the podcast we're doing today for sure.

So it sounds like you've got a little bit of an air leak there, but we should probably let everybody know we're gonna do a, we're doing a live event here. We're recording live in the Integrative Health Storage Studios in the clinic with cryotherapy. And that's what you're hearing in the background is, is that the nitrogen takes.

That's the liquid nitrogen. She's starting a cool down process. So especially for the first session or two you have to do a pre. Cool. So today we will be interviewing one of our amazing office managers that's certified cryotherapy specialists that will be doing the treatment and I will be receiving the treatment which I'm actually excited about because in this crazy cold flui season, it's actually amazing for your immune system. So I'm not going to get in the benefits. We're going to let her tell us about that. But I've had some sick kiddos and so I'm pretty excited going into the holidays to get a little immune boost for myself. Yeah.

And just to kind of fill people in cryotherapy, we're talking whole body cryotherapy. So we're going to get into the tank, right. We're going to get into a standing enclosure that your head is out of and we can go into this more. But just to give everybody a setup of what you're about to do and you'll stand in that and it brings your body temperature or brings cold air down around your body to really, really cold air for just a few minutes.

Right. Just like negative 230 something. You know, we'll let Amy tell us about that. But it's pretty, it's pretty sweet. I wish that we did have video. But I'm going to try to do a good job when I'm getting into there to explain kind of what I'm seeing so you can get a, a little visceral feel of, of what it looks like and stuff too. But I will say the first time I did it, since I'm not a new person doing this, the first time I did it I was certainly a little nervous and a little scared because you just don't know what to expect. And you know, you hear these noises and then you see this like smoke coming out of the top of the machine and you know you're going to be in a really cold environment. But I will say after you do it the first Time and you know what to expect. It just gets easier and easier and easier to do. And it's a dry cold versus a wet cold. So even though it's very cold, it's not nearly as bad as putting yourself in an ice bath.

Right.

I'm excited.

Oh, I love it. Yeah. I became kind of addicted to it when I was. A few years ago. I was training for summiting Mount Rainier, and I didn't have a lot of time for training and recovery, so I was running and hiking and doing the incline, mostly here in Colorado. That's a. You can look that up. If you're not from Colorado, look up the Manitou incline. Maybe we should do a live one on that. I'll do that one. Let's do the live. Anyway, so I would do cryotherapy, and I never had. I had only a little bit of knee swelling because I got off of Rainier and we had the little party, slept, and then got on a plane. So my knees were a little swollen the next day. But I think the cryotherapy really, really helped overall with my healing process while I was training.

Yeah, no, it's. It's. You know, obviously we have to validate that. We, you know, a lot of the people that come in to do this are athletes. And, you know, it's been around. We'll let her go over some of the history of stuff around that, but it's been, you know, cold therapy has been around for a long time and commonplace. It's been utilizes in sports therapies. And I think, last time I heard, I think the Broncos, for instance, have like five of these, you know, at their training center. So pretty much I'm going to make a safe assumption that most, the majority, probably of professional sports teams, you know, have this available to them. You know, they used to go old school for sure, with the. The big stainless steel ice bath tanks, you know, that circulate cold water. And you'd have to sit in that son of a gun for like 20 minutes. That sounds horrible. I remember one time my daughter was approaching like 104 fever. And you know, when the kids are little and you're learning how to become a parent and, you know, these things happen, you get super scared and freaked out. And I remember making an ice bath. And so it was my middle daughter, actually. And so I remember pouring ice into a tub just to bring her fever down, going old school folklore medicine. And I was like, God, I started to get in there and it was so cold, and my oldest daughter was so Sweet. And she went and put her bathing suit on and she's like, I'll get in there with my sister. And she sat in this freezing cold water with her, you know, for like 10 minutes. But, you know, I'm tearing up right now.

Oh, what a good girl.

So emotional around the holidays.

Well, the nice thing, yeah, cold baths or I, I think they have slightly different applications and we're not going to foo foo one or the other, but if you're looking for something that's kind of quick and still effective and has maybe a different little bit of a process and it's, you're in there for like three and a half minutes tops, right?

Three.

Three minutes tops.

Three minutes tops. So you don't get, you don't get soaked. You, you know, don't have to do a big, you know, remake of your hair and body or anything like that. So it's really effective in many ways and there's tons of research and I'm sure Amy, Amy, our front desk lovely lady, will tell us some more. But you know, it's like there's 80, anywhere from 70 to 80% of the studies are showing, well, studies are showing 80 to 70% of reduction in muscle damage in the cell, muscle damage from anything from injury or overuse, exercising, recovery from surgical procedures and that kind of thing. Even, even weight loss. It's effective for. So we know systemic inflammation is also another thing that it really helps lower. So it's an effective tool. So we have one. And if you can find one near you, I think that they're a great way to bring another good thing for you into your life.

And just a reminder for people who maybe haven't heard some of the earlier ones, just to remind people about the foundation of all things. Good for you. For our podcast and our mission as our mission is to get people to explore health and wellness and to get step out of their lane, have fun. There's so many amazing, safe, effective therapies out there that a lot of people just aren't familiar with. So, you know, we're trying to, you know, teach people about the foundation and some of their own things within their own body and how to listen to the alarm signals that are going on in their body and utilize the least invasive tools and therapies to help with health prevention and maintenance as well with the body and really taking care of us. But exploring like, I love doing these live things. We've only done a couple so far, but just to go to these different places too and get people to open up their minds to all these different things and just have fun and so just again, try different things. So, you know, we did one not too long ago in the salt caves, and it was a blast. And I did ended up doing the singing bowl concert, you know, gong bath in there a week later, which was amazing. And then, you know, the cryo and, and you know, so today's theme's cryo, but just reminding people, if you're just jumping in here, listen to all the other podcasts because it goes, you know, into a lot of stuff of what's going on inside your body, how you can control your nervous system, but yet exploring, you know, these other passive therapies and some active therapies as well to help benefit your health and wellness.

I like how you put it in the beginning of, you know, get curious and ask questions and just look into. Everything that we're doing is again, just kind of diving into a variety of different options you have in life to improve your health, improve your mindset, improve just overall not just feeling good and looking good, but productivity, and you're just living life.

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Yep. I love it. Well, I know Amy's going to be walking in here any second because I know she can hear me in this earpiece. So I'm giving her a little drum roll.

Amy.

There she is. How are you, Amy?

Good. How are you?

Good. So thank you for joining us, everybody that is listening right now. This is Amy. She's one of our amazing integrative health team and office manager here. And she is one of the certified cryo specialists that puts people in the cryo chambers. And so she gets to deal directly with the patients and communicate with them. So I thought she would be the best fit to communicate with you guys too. So with no further ado. Is that how you say it? Amy? Hello.

Hello, everyone.

Hi, Amy.

Hi. Thanks for inviting me to talk about cryotherapy.

Thanks for being bold and me throwing you, putting you on the spot. To do it. So thanks for being brave. So could you. Could you just tell our listeners a little bit about the history of cryotherapy?

Yeah, definitely. And I just want to say that cryotherapy is super interesting. You know, I get to see how it works with our patients. At Integrative Health, I have people who will schedule a cryotherapy session after their acupuncture, massage, physical therapy, or even just a workout. So it's super great. And I had somebody tell me one time that if they get adjusted and do cryotherapy, they feel their adjustment lasts longer.

Oh, that's cool.

So, yeah, and there's definitely science behind it, so I love hearing that.

It's cool to actually hear that from you too. Just about. Obviously it can be a standalone service, but how it can be integrated with other therapies and benefit from each other. And so that's a good point. With all of these things, like, you know, experience, you know, some standalone stuff, but explore how they work together.

Yeah.

Synergies.

Yeah. Well, what I found for cryotherapy, as far as the history goes, it can date back to the ancient Greeks. Hypocrites. Hippocrates, the Greek father of medicine, he kind of started showing his patients the value of cold therapy. Cryo in Greek is. Cold therapy is Greek for cure. So it's kind of where the name came from. And so he used ice and snow as treatments for pain, localized stiffness and inflammation. And then it moved over to Japan, and this is where it really started getting researched. And this is kind of a big breakthrough for cryo chambers. But in, like, the late 1970s, a Japanese rheumatologist, his name was Toshima Yumaguchi, if I said that right. But he would utilize cryotherapy for his patients in short sessions for pain management for arthritis and other pain issues. So, yeah, and he would. He kind of started, like, the cooling chambers. I couldn't figure out how that looked. Like, I know now we use the liquid nitrogen to get the temperature so low. But he kind of had the idea of putting. Putting patients into a cooling chamber to help with the pain from arthritis. So, yeah, I felt like that was super interesting. And it's amazing how it traveled. And then from Japan, it went to Europe, and they started to use cold therapy for other diseases beyond arthritis and to treat soft tissue pain. You know, fibromyalgia, increased metabolism, revitalize your skin. And then it moved to here, where we started using it for, like, elite athletes.

So I love how different cultures over how we. How we can still draw upon stuff that, you know, dated back to the Greek or Egyptians. And then it was interesting. I did see, like, I think in around 18, late 1800s, 1877, I think is the number I wrote down is when they started being able to figure out how to capture gases as far as utilizing them as a cold. So, you know, obviously we're using liquid nitrogen that turns into a gas, which you can explain when we go into the cryo room. But how we can still draw upon nature, like the thermal properties and what nature offers us. And of course, people used to jump in, like just mountain lakes, right? Like freezing lakes or doing that. And still. Yeah, still do. Totally. Yeah. Which Wim Hof. I'm sure we'll have to talk about him because he. He's really brought upon a lot of modern research based off of his stuff. But I think that's very, very cool to know.

Yeah, definitely. And I think the best part about whole body crowd therapy is it's quick, it's effective, and, you know, you don't have to do an ice bath and get wet. It's a dry process, and so it doesn't feel as cold as it is.

How do most of the patients, when you're putting in them in there? Like, I explained a little bit about my first time, how it was like a little scary, but then it got easier. What do you feel like for the listeners out there who might be nervous to try something like that and just hate the idea of cold? What are the patients usually. How do they handle their first treatment?

Usually I think they do great. But the important part is they have options. They don't have to go to the coldest, which is negative, like 230. We have levels, so if you're feeling kind of nervous, I would say just kind of start in the middle, which is like negative 120, negative 160. And I leave it up to the patient. So that way they're in control. I'm there the entire time talking to them. I'm asking them like, hey, are you comfortable? And at any moment, if it's too much, we just turn it off and we can try again a different day. But, yeah, overall, I haven't had anyone stop it mid session.

Nobody's bailed.

Everyone has conquered it. And at the end they're great.

So I'm gonna conquer it, like we said. Yeah, you're gonna conquer it today. And it's three minutes. So it's. What I've always done is just, you know, you practice some breathing Techniques you can do, like just little body motions and movements in there. I personally pretend, literally visualize that I'm skiing. I'll pick my favorite, a basin run and pretend I'm running down it while I'm in there. And then it's over. So you get, you know, it's. We're going to get into more of that because, Brian, you're going to get in the cryotherapy.

I'm getting in there. And actually, I got to tell you, this is the first time I'm literally in my underwear and in a robe in front of, you know, one of my office manager here. And this is the first experience of that today, too. So lots of stuff. And you don't have to go. The other thing I guess is one is temperature, but you don't have to go to three minutes your first time either.

Right, right.

Two minutes or whatever. And I know here, I would say if you're out exploring and wherever you go, I know our system, you know, we really push for some of the best technologies possible, but there's a lot of safety features. Could you tell us about the safety features?

Yeah. So when you're in the chamber, I have to be in there because every 10 seconds there's a notification that comes up that I have to dismiss. And that's kind of a check to make sure that somebody's always there.

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So that's kind of the main one. And then we also have an oxygen reader, so it makes sure that there's enough oxygen in the room for the person because the liquid gas, you're not supposed to breathe that in. You do have to keep your chin up. So just kind of those two things make sure that everyone's safe.

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Not gonna get stuck in there.

Yeah, you definitely won't get stuck in there. And then there's also like a huge red button where I could stop it from the outside without even opening the door if there's an emergency. So yeah, a lot of great safety.

Features and not to scare people but I just, I do want to tell the story because it does, it was. Is pretty ridiculous. But so clearly these systems have evolved for many reasons as far as safety because that's always in the, the main interest for the, you know, for our patients. But there was and I feel bad, I don't want to get sued or anything for telling the story. But if you look it up and if you see something about a lady freezing to death in Las Vegas, you know, maybe that happened. But clearly it was a system where she was alone and must have, I don't know what other things were involved if there was things that somebody should not be doing when they're doing that. But it was clearly by herself. Nobody there. I think actually she was the owner of the place and there was nobody in the facility and she was in there. She maybe had her head too low or whatever and I shouldn't tell the story, but I'm going to. And then she passed out and there was no safety switches or anything, so the gas kept running. So unfortunately she was a popsicle the next morning. So clearly there's safety features. But if you look anything up online and you see that, know that, that there was a lot of problems with that whole situation and you do not have to worry about that.

Well, and how about anything. How about anything you do that is an extreme or different. Like jumping in a cold bath even like, how about not doing it alone.

You know, take a bath with me.

Not in an ice bath. I mean the stuff that like, really like that, it. You can't just do something that's going to shock your system and do it alone. I think that's a little silly. Didn't we not learn from. What was the kid who ran off to the woods and disappeared into the woods? It's a famous story. Into the Woods. I think it was called Disappeared. And he went by himself. And I mean there was a famous show about it. You just, you know, maybe we just.

Do things a little. Walk into the wild.

Yeah, like let's, let's maybe think things through a little bit.

Yeah, there's actually. I can go into a whole story about that because I actually know I. I can't. That's a whole different thing. Yeah, that's a whole other story.

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There you go. Yes, that's a good idea. Real quick, Amy, I think you might have read some of this too, but I do want to bring up if some people are really interested. Wim Hof has a really great site and they, he's kind of like, they call him Iceman, but he has three pillars to his, his belief system around this. And one is breathing, which again is the foundation for so many things. The second is cold therapy. And the third one is commitment. And you know, hit some of those pillars, when you combine them, unlock a multitude of benefits. Reduce stress levels, greater cold tolerance, faster recovery, enhanced creativity, stronger immune system, increased energy, better sleep, sleep, heightened focus and determination, improve sports performance and increase willpower. Great stuff on his website. And he has like research teams and has been put in cold suits and under MRIs and blood tests and I mean there's so much scientific information on his website that backs the benefits of cold therapy and tons of cool videos. Definitely recommend you check it out. It's definitely w I M h o.

F method.com Wim Hof Method Yep. And I think, I think to point out here too is like great. If you just want to try this once, you're going to feel refreshed and you might come out feeling a little less like heavy in your joints. But everything on the research shows that it's like almost everything else that's beneficial to you. Consistency is key and it's repetitive side sessions that seem to make the best long term impact on things like oxidative stress reduction, muscle repair and a little bit onto the, well, inflammation. Right. And then weight loss. There's, there's still a lot of research happening with exactly how it's affecting overall adipose tissue. But there's some promising and interesting things coming, coming up there too.

But consistency, you burn a ton of calories.

Yeah, yeah. I mean and I think that there's a whole, we could, we could probably get into that later. Again, there's not a ton of research supporting like you're not going to use this as your only process to lose weight. Don't, don't take this as a substitute for eating healthy and getting your body moving in a happy way. But it can be, like we said earlier, in conjunction with your whole health routine. Adding in cryotherapy on a consistent basis can just overall improve your markers in general.

So I think with the immune system, the old school again, kind of more folklore stuff. And it's interesting because with Chinese medicine it really ties into that is taking cold showers, you know, at the end of your shower for you know, four or five, 10 minutes or whatever it is. But that would be a good supplement to the cryotherapy too for immune system. So you know, back in the day they just believed that that blocks invasive invasions into your body. In Chinese medicine, the lung is part of what we call your Wei Qi and it controls the skin. So it opens and closes the pores and stuff like that. So the cold causes those pores and stuff to close down after like a hot shower. So when you start getting sick in Chinese medicine, it's called a wind invasion. And so it starts, it penetrates the skin layer and then there's a process where it goes deeper.

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When it's in the blood level, that's when you have like feet fevers and stuff. So it's pretty cool. There's you know, from, from dating back thousands of years ago to even still now, more research kind of backing some of these ideas and philosophies. Maybe not because they don't use wind and stuff like that, but clearly there's other mechanisms involved in the immune system.

Well, there's plenty of research out there that shows the cold on the back of the neck. I remember when I first started reading Tim Ferriss, um, in his four hour body, one of the things he recommended was a cold. Finishing your shower with cold on the back of your neck and that's it raises and releases your T cell production. Um, and it also helps increase brown fat which you can do. We can talk in at some point about different types of fats, but brown fats, it's actually a good fat and cold exposure. Whether it's cold weather, cold treatments like cryotherapy or cold showers or baths and ice baths, you're increasing brown fat which in the long run is healthier for your body in general.

There's actually on his website, there was a whole study on his, his brown fat and stuff, which I didn't know what brown fat was. I'm not going to lie. And I'm like, what the hell is brown fat? Like no fat sounds good, but brown fat didn't sound good. But I know it's a better fat.

But it's the gravy fat.

Duh, the gravy fat, which is delicious. Right? Like that's what makes it. I'm sorry.

I made my Christmas dinner list this morning and my, my brain is on food.

So Amy, maybe before we go over there because it is going to be a little noisier over there. As a new patient coming in, what am I supposed to do? Just tell like clearly I'm in a row. But like if I just come in, like what do we tell? What do you tell people? How to dress, you know, what to expect and if you could just run, run, run me through that.

Yeah. So I always say the goal in the chamber is no metal, no moisture. So you don't want to Lather on a bunch of lotion before you come. And, you know, obviously piercings and jewelry on, you need to take that off. And then you need to bring socks. But we provide slippers, gloves, and robes. So, yeah, I kind of just prep them to. To let them know when you go in the chamber, you're going to be wearing either your underwear or shorts, whatever you're comfortable with. And then no shirt for guys, but you could wear a shirt if you really wanted to. And then for women, you need to make sure you have a sports bra with no wire in it. So those are the thing. The main things that we need to prep. And, you know, I. When they come in, I definitely show them around and make sure that they're comfortable. That way they're not going into a chamber, because a lot of people do have anxiety. And when you're going into a chamber, you may not, you know, like, am I stuck here? Like, what's going to happen? So kind of just prep them for all of the different steps.

And I'm. I got these fun, giant, massive, thick, furry alligator booties.

Yeah. So that was my view. Coming into the office is Brian running around in a robe with some dinosaur slippers on.

So I'm going to start coming to record that live. I'm sorry.

It's pretty cozy. I think this is my new work outfit.

Really? That's awesome.

Yeah.

We don't have to worry as a client coming in, you're not going to have a live video or podcast happening. And you do have your privacy. You're able to go in and change into a robe, and you're not going to have to be jumping around in your undies in front of people.

Yeah. And do make sure wherever you go, though. There was a famous basketball player, I believe. Who was that? Anyway, he was over in Europe somewhere, and he went to a cryo place. And I don't know if he refused to put the booties on or if they didn't tell him, but he did get some. Some frostbite on the bottom of his feet, and he couldn't. Like, so he couldn't play, like, so he was benched.

And I'm sure, yeah, wear the booties and wear the gloves. There's plenty of cold. Wear the booties, wear the gloves. Everything gets cold as it needs to. You don't need to do it with your hands and feet.

And then when I get. Oh, sorry, Amy. Sorry.

I would say just stick your hands and feet in a bucket of water if you need to do it that way.

But oh, there you go. Supplement it. And then when you're in the cryo chamber, what. What does the person do when they're in there?

So you will face me. So we're kind of looking at each other, making sure everything's good. And then you do need to keep your body moving. Moving. So I'll just suggest, you know, walking in place, moving your arms, kind of like you're. You're, you know, running maybe, but. Yeah, just making sure your body's moving and you're okay.

And the chamber's big enough. The chamber is big enough that you can turn around in it for the most part. And, I mean, I don't know what. There's a size limit on there, but I would imagine some really big football players might feel a little cramped. But it's still big enough, I would think, for you to be able to move. And like I said, I bounce around. I move and act like I'm skiing. So you can turn. You can breathe. Your head is out. It's. I'm slightly claustrophobic, and I've never felt contained.

Yeah. And I think it's because your head's out, too. But it's definitely important to keep your chin up just because you don't want to breathe in that liquid nitrogen again, because that's, you know, 100% don't do that.

Yeah. And that. The gas. So it's a liquid nitrogen, but it's not. It's not.

Not.

It's a gas when it comes out. So it's a gas in the chamber. It's not liquid nitrogen, but the gas does consume oxygen. Right. So there's no oxygen below down in the chamber.

And so, yeah, so basically there's like, this huge silver tank that has a liquid nitrogen, and then it gets pumped into the chamber, which by the time it's in the chamber, it turns into the gas.

Not laughing gas.

So cool.

Yeah, it's awesome.

I remember, too. Have you ever seen one of the places, it seems very dangerous, where they actually use liquid nitrogen to cool your beer mug or to make ice cream?

Yeah.

Have you seen that?

Yeah, I've seen that. And there was a place, and I was at the mall one time, and I think it's called Dragon Balls, where they use liquid nitrogen. Like, it looks like little cereal balls, and they basically freeze it, and then you eat it like that. You're not supposed to breathe it in, but they give you a cup that has, like, the little liquid nitrogen around it and then these, like, balls that look like cereal, and you're supposed to eat it like that.

Can you make me one of those while I do the chamber?

Can we. Can we start a side gig here? And can we. Can we bring in some laughing gas too? Can we do that with it?

Yeah, totally. It sounds like some workman's comp claims, though.

Yeah, it was a whole thing though, you know, it was more like a. Like a shot. I don't think the. The little cereal balls were that great, but everybody at the mall was like, whoa, what is that? Because you could see nitrogen going.

So theatrical. It does remind me.

Yeah, yeah.

Of. Yeah, it does remind me of like dry ice when you see that smoke. And I remember when my kids were in Harry Potter, I hosted one of the birthday parties for my kids. And I did it up with the dry ice and the special snake something punch that I made. So.

Yes.

Let's go. Turn me into some punch. I'm ready.

Let's do it.

Yep. Okay, so Brian's gonna get into the cryo chamber. And no sweat, no lotion sweat, no lotion, no piercings. Take out that one piercing, Brian.

I'm walking. We'll see if I cannot drop microphones or computers. Going across the hall. Here I come running in my robe.

So our.

The cryo chamber we have is really disco cool. It's got like nice blue lights to it. And yeah, I have a lot of smoke coming out the top.

Will walk by this room when the door is open and they're like, what is that? Just cuz the light, the blue light.

I love it.

Like, you know, it's Vegas.

Vegas in here, baby.

I might or might not have sweated a little bit, so blowing me away. All right, no metal. No sweat. No metal. No sweat.

I set up the pads already. So there's pads that go in the chamber to make sure, based off of your height, that your head is always out. I will usually kind of put the person in the chamber before I pre cool to make sure that the height is good before any liquid nitrogen is being turned into gas. But Brian already know, I already know his pad level, so it's already ready to go.

And the pads are making sure that the people are tall enough that their heads stay out.

Exactly. And I can adjust the levels so that way we can make sure that that's the case.

I get some cool gloves too.

All right, Bryce stepping in.

I'm in. And by the way, the room's already cold.

Yes.

So I'm chill.

Oh, before you step in, we gotta do your fingerprint. So before you could use the Cryo, there are are forms that you have to do to make sure, you know, that you consent to all the different things about cryo. And so there's a fingerprint that you have to put in to make sure that it's you. And then I also have to put my fingerprint in to make sure that I am a approved operator. So, Brian to his fingerprint. And I'm setting the temperature to negative 220.

Negative 220.

And we're setting the time to three minutes. Okay, I'm going to click start now. All right.

I feel it. I feel it. Can you hear me?

Okay, I can hear you. It's a little. It's a little, you know, wind tunnel. It's a little wind tunnel y in there. But that's okay. We're getting the idea.

I got some fun smoke coming all around me. And there's a cool tv, basically, that shows my body. It's got a thermal imaging thing that shows your body temperature changing and where I'm at. So I got something to look at. And of course, I got my cheerleader. Thank you.

And there's a little on that digital screen, what you're saying is there's like a body image that helps you see how your body temperature is changing in different areas of the body. It has a countdown, right. Like a timer, and then it shows how the temperature is dropping. So you're kind of aware at the whole time of what's happening. Yes.

And Brian, right now the temperature on the screen shows negative 230. He has 1 minute and 57 seconds.

I'm a minute in and I'm shaking. I'm shaking.

He's being a trooper.

It feels great.

He is moving his body, which is great. If you hear that beeping, that's that security feature to make sure that I'm still in here. I'm still aware of what's going on. Brian, you doing okay?

I'm doing great. I have uncontrollable convulsion going on, but I'm doing great.

I always feel it in the back of my knees first. Where are you the coldest?

My lower legs. Yeah, my knees. And then I'm just like. I'm just shaking a little bit. But the cool thing is I can do anything for three minutes and so can you.

Yeah, right.

Definitely.

I love it. Maybe you know what it feels the best is when you get out.

Yes. Yeah. Now, if you control and regulate your breathing, I know that about a minute, two minutes in, your body actually starts to regulate and it doesn't feel quite as bad. And I always focused on, like, really just understanding the sensation that was happening in my body. Like, okay, how cold are the back of my knees? How is that comparing to my hips? How does that compare to my shoulders? You know, getting your brain out of the cold process and just focus on breathing.

Yeah, I think that's great. And most of the time, I'm talking to the patient as well, and that, like, we're in a deep conversation, and by the time we're, like, you know, midway, it's like, oh, we're done.

Talk to me. I got 15 seconds.

Breathe, Brian.

See, you're almost done. You got this. 10 seconds left.

I love it.

One time I was in here with someone, and we were like. He was, like, shouting the countdown. And then by the time I came out, everyone's like, what's going on in there? We were just having way too much fun.

It is sometimes interesting doing work and relaxation stuff, but then somebody's in the cryotherapy because it is loud.

I feel frosty. I feel frosty.

Brian did it.

And there you're done, and you step out, you open it up, and you throw your robe on.

Putting it on, I will say it's very invigorating. And typically when I do it, I know that after about, like, 10 minutes, my muscles feel jazzed. I feel like, personally, I could go for, like, a run. Like, I feel pretty, pretty. Pretty jazzed up and ready to go. So super cool.

A little light and just feeling refreshed. Really. It does. And I'm assuming you're. I would. You know, one of the things we should have done, Brian, was watched your heart rate during all that because it'd be curious to see what your heart rate did.

Well, I'll tell you what it did. I would say I was probably at 87 before I went in, and I'm sure to sure I hit, like, 145.

Yeah.

You seem jazzed up right now.

Do I? Am I glowing? Well, first of all, Amy does an amazing job here. So if you come here, you know you're in great hands. If you go somewhere else, you know, make sure you're in great hands. But I. I appreciate you, Amy, and I appreciate you doing that and just go out and explore the world and try some cryotherapy.

Get cold. Okay. And let's all do a snow dance. Can we do the homage to Uller?

I just did the snow dance in that chamber.

All right, you did. You just did the cold dance for us. And snow is coming. I'm sure of it.

Yes. Yes it is here. All right, well I hope everybody gets some snow and feels like the holidays are super festive and enjoy time with family. We've enjoyed our time with you today, so thank you everybody for listening. Check out all the previous podcasts and share with friends and family.

Thank you Amy for helping us today and thanks Brian for being the guinea pig. I'm a little. I'm a little envious. I might have to jump in there later. Everybody have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays and we will be back next week.

Thank you. Bye bye Amy.

Bye Amy.

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