Ep 25 PRE & PRO BIOTICS

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So the prebiotics help condition your system and become available to help feed and direct the probiotics.

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And remember, stay open minded and integrated. Hello. Howdy and good morning, Amy. I figured I'd mix it up a little bit right there.

Good morning, good morning my singing friends.

What's shaking? What you got going on?

Well, I got, I got, I got, you know, all the things going on. My coffee is normal. And then you, of course, you know, are jumping up and down on trampoline, which is so, so good for you. It's good for your lymphatic system and your circulation.

I know, right?

It's good.

I still swear it helps like break up restrictions around my brain. I feel like when I start jumping, like my brain feels stagnant, like inside the membranes and the fluid. And I feel like as I do that it loosens stuff up and, and it makes me feel good. There might not be any signs that, but it has to move cerebral spinal fluid up and down. We are totally digressing because we are talking about gut health again today.

Not brain health, but again, gut health, brain health, it all works together. But you're right, just to make a side note on that, but have you ever taken your heart rate while you're doing your jumping up and down? Have you ever checked it?

That's multitasking. I can't do that. I just have to jump.

And they make watches for that.

I have one of those and I use like 5% of its capacity.

Well, I'm just curious because there is quite a bit of founded research that shows if you will get up and early in the morning. I think it's within the first hour. Like increase your heart rate to like a higher. Not you don't have to run, but get it over 100, 110, like get a good fast paced blood circulation for about five to 10 minutes that you significantly decrease your chances for stroke.

So I think mine does that naturally when I wake up. Is that bad?

Well, it's cortisol. That's cortisol happening. But you're getting jumping up and down. It's fantastic. It's great for your circulation. Of course it's going to wake up your brain. I should probably do that. Right. When I wake up in the morning.

I wonder if it wakes up my gut bacteria.

Sure.

Anything that you do or does gut bacteria never rest. Is it just always working?

I believe it's always working. I think at night it does quite a bit of work though. And we're going to talk about that, right?

Yeah, well, let's, let's do this. Gut bacteria. So this, for those of you just jumping in on this, we have done a couple podcasts on gut health and we wanted to bring this little piece back in because we really didn't get to talk too much about some probiotics and gut bacterias and the microbiomes. Am I saying that right? Is there micro, Microbiotas. Microbiomes. What's happening? What am I saying?

The world of your gut is biome and the products in the gut are the microbiota.

Oh good. So I got both words in there. Woohoo.

You're so fancy.

Yeah, so fancy. Pantsy. So, yeah, so we wanted to make sure we circled back because these are some common questions and I'm glad certainly that your knowledge base is fantastic with this because when I was studying probiotics and stuff like you know, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, I don't even know there was, you know, certain things that were common knowledge. But research has progressed a lot further. Now we have prebiotics and I'm sure pretty soon we'll have a prebiotic for the prebiotic. And it is confusing but, but I generally know that for us to have. I think about our gut as if I'm growing a garden and I want my garden to grow nice and healthy. My soil has to be rich with certain things. And so I think of my intestines like that. So then my hair and my nails and my skin and my tissue and my cells and all that is like my garden and growing. So what I put in My gut helps my garden grow. So tell us, Amy, how can our garden grow better?

Brian o' Brien how did your bottom go? Okay, yeah, that's a perfect analogy because I mean, you're starting off with your, like it's been referenced as prebiotics is almost like, think about that as your fertilizer. And then what results out of your. The soil of the microbiome being the seeds of the. The results of the bacteria. Right? So the, this came up because the client had a question and they were just like, you know, I don't even understand what is, you know, what, what are prebiotics and what are probiotics? What's the difference? Why do we care? I mean, he knew that, you know, their gut health and whatnot. But so, you know, we just thought we'd make a little quick ish reference to prebiotics. Probiotics. So prebiotics, right, are you're basically, there are certain types of foods, fermentable food or fiber foods, not fermentable.

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Look, I'm confusing everybody already.

What, what are you saying? What's happening?

Back that up. Prebiotics are basically soluble foods, right? Fiber soluble foods. And not all fibrous foods are created equal. So we'll talk about those in a second. But think of prebiotics as stuff that you are eating within your whole foods diet that are prepping your system for feeding the bacteria, the good bacteria. So the prebiotics help condition your system and become available to help feed and direct the probiotics, the good biotic bacteria in your gut. So you're wanting to eat a little bit of both. You want to have prebiotics and probiotics in your system on a regular basis throughout your day and make sure it's diverse. And these, you know, feed off the prebiotics basically feed your biotic, I mean, your bacteria, right? And we care about that because your bacterial system is your helper. It helps break down and create more of a Bioavailability of your nutrients. It helps heal different cells in your system. So you're wanting to do the prebiotics to feed the probiotics. Probiotics you can take in a supplement form. There's a lot of debate about it, right? Like which ones are real, which ones work, do you need to refrigerate them or not? And you know, everybody's different in their microbiome, which we've talked about. Everyone is very unique, depending on what their experience was from birth to, you know, through childhood and through life and what they've experienced in their environment and in their food and their medications. So everybody's different. What you're going to absorb, what you're going to need is going to be different. So it's important to try to just get a variety of prebiotics, probiotic exposures, as you know, throughout your week, throughout your month, whatever.

So I had a quick question. So I, from what I remember and some of back in the day, they recommend at least having something. I think it was back in the day you could like 14 strands was a lot, but now I think it's like 18, 18 different strands, which makes sense because if you don't know what you need exactly, you know, to be diverse kind of covers that ground. But one thing that I'm curious about, and I don't know, I'm just throwing this out here, is it's recommended that you find one that has at least 40 billion to 75 billion per serving. So if you're somewhere in that sweet spot, 51 billion, 60 billion, I don't know, but I want to know like how much? And I don't even know if there's research on this, but how many billions do you need a day to maintain that? And then like if you're taking a supplement, you're taking 51 billion CFUs a day. Like how do we know how we're getting per food? Is there, have you seen any sort of like converter to say, like if I ate, you know, half a cup of sauerkraut, like how many billions that would be of. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

We should have had this conversation before we started recording.

Well, and yeah, but curiosity. So we might have to come back to this one. But that was just me thinking out loud. But it is somewhere between 40 and 75 billion from my understanding is a good number for a supplement with at least 18 different strands. And so back in the day when I studied this soil based organisms were the Big ones. And that's the one that we would really use for people with Candida because that yeast overgrowth is very aggressive. So the soil based organisms are more stable. You don't have to have them refrigerated, but they colonize more aggressively. Now, that was research a long time ago. I don't know if that changed. So I used to give people soil based organisms, you know, probiotic that would colonize more aggressively. So that's, that's my knowledge base right there. I just want to throw that into the, throw that into the ring.

Well, where it gets tricky. And yes, it's up to that like 50 billion. I think there's even some that are 10 billion. I think it really just, again, it depends on the person. And the only way to know exactly how much and what kind you're lacking in is I believe, to do a fecal test. So you can, you can send your poo in and get it analyzed and find out, you know, what you're missing and focus on that. Now, just because you. And it also fluctuates. Right. So that's why you've got to create more diversity in your diet. There are certain types of foods you could eat. Now, I don't know that I have done. I have not done the research of if you eat this much broccoli, you're going to get 100 billion CFUs. I think that would be an awful lot of broccoli.

Ew. Or gross.

Or kimchi miso, like all of that. Right. I'm thinking. But broccoli is more of a prebiotic. But how much kimchi do you have to eat to get 100? That's why we take supplements.

To be honest, I feel like that's gonna be an automatic increase in our methane gas on the planet.

Yes, it will. Actually. We're not going there. We're not going there.

Why do you think I put that high? That high. That new ventilation system I put in the office isn't for viruses. It's for. It's for our.

Client, our gassy clientele.

Yeah.

After we give them all these, make them eat that much broccoli.

Well, yeah, yeah, we need our broccoli and we need our beans. But, you know, I guess we're gonna die one way or another. Just people forget all of it. Just go out and have fun. Forget about it all.

How many billions in different strains are in beer?

God. See, Brian, this is why we have a shared note system.

Well, these are just thoughts that are coming up right now.

I don't think it carries over. Would you say how much probiotics are in beer?

I don't. Yes, it's fermented.

I don't think it has.

Seems like there's gotta be something.

I think the sugar in the yeast may kill it off. It doesn't. I just went to the university of GE and studied really fast.

Good. Is there any in there?

Does not contain any live active cultures of probiotics.

It's probably because if it's fermented past a certain process then the alcohol in it would kill the other thing. So like kimchi is fermented to a sweets. Okay, well we can check that off the list and. Well especially since. All right, so in general, you know, when we're talking about gut health and stuff and probiotics and the one really important thing is it's, it's a big aid if you will for anti inflammatory processes. So other bacterias can cause inflammatory processes which has a trickle down effect on multi systems that cause, you know, if you look up the base kind of trigger to a lot of diseases, it's stress and inflammation. Right. So by increasing these anti inflammatory properties with your good gut health and bacteria as it can reduce and help prevent a lot of stuff. But it's amazing because there's so many, there's you know, the Lactobacillus acidophilus and Lactobacillus fermentum and Lactobacillus planetarium. Lactobacillus bacterial.

Yeah.

But it's amazing when you're reading like the benefits of each like each one like I'm just going to pull one up here. This one supports digestive function, relieves cramps, supports health and immune system. Oh, improves. Well, we want. That's not, that doesn't feel like an appropriate one to talk about right now. But anyway there's, it's like dental stuff and supports stuff from liver damage and helps ph balance and helps bone strength and helps your gums and helps, you know, all these different things and it's like when I'm reading this I'm like I'm going to go buy a bottle of probiotics right now because I haven't been taking mine. I usually do like a scoop in my smoothie of probiotics but clearly this one improves blood pressure and balances your microflora and this one helps ACE inhibitors and this one is good for sinuses and this one's good for, I mean.

Oh my God, there's a long crazy list of different ones and again it can depend on where in the process it is, do you need to feed it with your prebiotics? Is there something else cooking in your system that you need to work on healing your gut lining, but you're balancing out a good high quality probiotic supplement along with prebiotic whole foods is good. Obviously the more whole foods you can eat, the better. By the way, I did just do a quick research on the NCBI and I was reading the book by Eat this to beat disease book and he does mention that there are some, there are some benefits of moderate, high quality beer consumption. Like one beer not going overboard on it. Right? Because then you kind of go the opposite way. Same thing with wine. But the polyphenols are really super helpful and can be helpful with microbiota interactions. So while they may not be great at building the actual gut biome, as far as providing you with probiotics, there is a little research that's showing that a little bit of veer can be helpful. So again, everything in moderation. See how your body's feeling. If you feel like, you know, like you hit a wall or your gut's bloated, or you feel puffy and tired and exhausted after having a couple of beers, guess what? You either drink bad beer or your body doesn't do well with beer. So it's really, you've got to really pay attention to your system. But I think with all of this, what we're trying to say as far as prebiotics and probiotics is this is a good place to start if you're looking at healing your gut. Now I work with a functional doctor and one of his first recommendations for people, and he does a lot of gut health, is to just for a few weeks cut out gluten and dairy because those are such huge offenses. And I know everybody gets a little up in arms about the fad of gluten free, blah, blah, blah, but it's one of our most heavily pesticide containing foods. On top of all the other research that's out about issues with the changing of our wheat, especially in America, our grains and things have changed a lot, but neither here nor there. It's a good way to just see where your system is, take a break from those things. The ferment, the pasteurization process of our dairy products, plus all the antibiotics and all the stuff and chemicals that are in our dairy products. It just causes a lot of problems in our guts. So he recommends almost everybody take a break from those gluten and dairy and then add in some good prebiotic, probiotic foods. And if you choose to and would like to get your supplement, get a good quality supplement in on a probiotic and see where that takes you for a couple of months. Right? And if you start feeling better and you can heal your gut and you can get your system working well most.

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Drive can can start to pull back in better quality higher quality foods. I haven't had dairy. I didn't eat dairy for almost 25 years and I can now do a pretty I do okay with organic butters and organic cheeses that are raw so they've not been pasteurized. I can have those and I don't have any of the typical reactions that I used to have. So everybody's different on the time frame that they can heal their gut. But it doesn't hurt to get started.

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So let's. The another thing I want to point out with probiotics and prebiotics is that the timing matters. So when you eat them or take your supplements makes a difference. And if you're going to take a probiotic supplement, research is supportive of taking it at night or at least one to two hours after having eaten your food. There's more research showing that if you take your probiotic with a food or within 30 minutes of having food that it pretty much depletes the effectiveness of that probiotic supplement.

I like it. Sorry, as you were talking about that, I was just thinking real quick also about like the CFUs and, and that whole. The amount of serving and I was going back this thinking back on the podcast where we talked about supplements and we talked about like the therapeutic window of, of certain things that we're taking when we. And the kind of the pharmacokinetics and pharmadynamics. I wonder too, like with the, you know, when we talk about the amount of CFUs, which is colony forming units, CFUs, because it's passing through the stomach too, to make sure. Do we have to make sure that we're taking one that has a protective barrier so that it's not damaged by the stomach when we're taking it so it doesn't damage decrease the amount of those CFUs that we're taking. Or I wonder if that's why you want to get a higher one with more CFUs so that because they're going to assume the gut's going to damage a certain amount. So then you hit that sweet spot of 10 billion, you know, CFU. So if you're taking a 50 billion, 1, 40 billion are knocked off through the digestive, you know, through the stomach and then you end up there. Just a, just a thought.

Yeah, and I think that there's good. Those are excellent questions. I'm not an expert, by the way. But what I do know is I think the normal now is the 50 billion CFUs. I think that's what they're recommending. And as far as the capsulating, I think that's why it's a bacteria and it needs to have the prebiotic system to basically function and orchestrate itself, otherwise the body will just flush it out. And that's why certain fibers are better than others, which we'll touch on here in a second. But some fibers just push through your system and they don't even have the opportunity that bacteria can't utilize that fiber to ferment the process and then help itself travel and do its healing process. Yes, I think 50 billion is the normal. I know there are some, if you have heart issues, there are some situations where lower dose may work better. I don't know that it's detrimental. I just think that if you have known heart conditions, you should probably check with your doctor on that process. But I know that there are some fluctuations for some certain processes there. And again, I'm not an expert, so I don't know. I just know 50 billion is pretty much the general. I think they put that much in there because of one. Overall, most people today have horrible gut biome conditions and we're needing to put a huge amount and a large variety in there. Hoping it will stick is just hoping you get something to work. And perhaps if we're really clean and you're doing really well, then with your diet and your gut biome, your body's going to absorb what it needs, it's going to take what it needs, you're not going to have too many good bacteria in your system to where that creates a problem, from what I understand, and research is not showing that that's a problem. It's having the different strands that are important and then putting enough in that your body can find the opportunity to make that available and be able to make bioavailability in the microbiome to do its work well.

That's why instead, to increase the bioavailability, you should just take it as a suppository. Because if your intestines absorb 80% more and you bypass the stomach, a suppository of probiotics is highly recommended. And I'm just kidding, just kidding.

You know, I was like, oh God, did you need something? Because this came up in a conversation the other day also, and I was like, gosh, you know, I don't think it works that way. I think that it's too late at that Point to be absorbed where you need it. But I don't know. Why not? I don't know that that's a good question.

I don't know. Well, there was research, you know, I did when I was in massage school. We had to do research on an organ. And so I picked the appendix because I had my appendix taken out in sixth grade. And they're basically everything you read is the appendix doesn't do anything. And so. Except they believed it was to help break down tree bark, you know, back in the day. And I'm just like a little piece of. Something gets stuck in there and it's game over. I don't think it's meant for tree bark. But lately. Not lately, lately, you know, maybe late. Earlier today. Now that more research I'd read in the past, whatever years, was pointing to the idea that the appendix houses good bacteria. That kind of time releases this bacteria into the system. I don't know if there's any truth to that, but that's what I do remember reading. I don't know if you have read anything similar.

That's fascinating. We'll do that.

Another podcast, we'll look that up. But I still think it's amazing. I mean, the human body just blows my mind away. So, you know, we're recommending, getting a probiotic supplement that has, you know, 18 strands. The body, the gut has four to 600 strands. I mean, and it's like, okay, take 18. We should have a probiotic that has, you know, 400 strands. But that's just amazing how many strands of bacteria there are in our gut. Four to 600.

And we're just figuring. And we're just figuring it out like. So when I started to do back, I was taking for in my psychology courses. I was doing some sort of argumentative English paper or what have you. And I picked. I was doing work on gut health and trying to understand gut health for depression and anxiety. There was nothing out there. I couldn't even do my paper because there wasn't enough argument on either side as far as research went. And that was like 2014 or something like that. And then it has exploded. So I did like a Google alert. You know, you can do Google Scholar and you can put in what you're looking for and set an alert for it. And every time there's something published on that, it'll send you a notification. Of course, now I have like a massive file. How much it has exploded in the last, you know, 10 years of research. Not even that long, but close to it. So we're just learning all of this, right? That's why I was like, it's. You just got to stay up on the research. You got to keep, you know, do things safely and, you know, don't, don't hang your hat on it at the end of the day, like, if you. One of the things that they're showing, right, Consistency matters, diversity matters, timing matters, and balancing your prebiotics, probiotics matters, right? They're showing that. That is, that is shown to make an effect. There are lots of people who have healed their gut system and through just changing their diet and healing their microbiome. So it's worth taking a look at. Everybody's an individual. So not what works for one person is going to work for everybody else. But it is a safe way to try to heal and benefit your body. So like with probiotics, you can do things like all the fermented foods like miso, kimchi, sauerkraut, kefir.

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Chevrolet together, let's drive Yogurt, tempe dandelion greens, right? So stop killing those weeds that are good for us, good for you. Stop spraying them with stuff. Chicory root, all of those are good probiotic foods, right? And obviously with like the yogurts and like, what's the kombucha drinks, you got to watch for the flavoring that they put in there and the amount of sugar that they put in there, because that just kills it, right? It just, that just neutralizes it.

And I'm just going to simplify. I'm just going to simplify then and go back to like your grandparents when they're like, oh, it's fine if they eat dirt, it's healthy for them. I'm just going to eat, I'm just going to eat dirt. I'm just going to eat dirt with my dandelion. With my dandelion root.

I think you have to go to a third world country at this point or somewhere in Africa and eat the soil there. I don't think eating soil anywhere around us right now is a good idea, but. Yeah, no, but that goes back to the idea of what you were exposed to as a child and at birth made a difference in your gut biome, how much antibiotics you had as a child or an adult. Every time you get an antibiotic, you're damaging and killing off your bacteria system. So you've got to pay attention to that and make an extra effort to rebuild your bacterial system. Triclosan. You know what triclosan is?

No, what is it?

Triclosan is the name.

What is it?

Please tell me it's in your antibiotics, soaps and hand cleaners. How much have we used of that in the last couple of years?

Just a little bit.

Just a little bit. Yeah.

And all those years of avoiding it and we made up for a lifetime of avoiding it in a year.

Yeah, yeah, it's. I mean, it's. Think about how much you ingested and you absorbed through your skin in the last couple of years. And working in the medical field, you know, there's no way around it. You're using it all the time. Every time we walked in or out of a patient's room, boom. We did an antiseptic wash right when we walked in and out. Every single patient, every single day. So, yeah, you're destroying your bacterial system slowly with that. Maybe not so slowly, but yeah. And processed foods, like all the chemicals and the processing of our foods today has just. It wreaks havoc in our natural bacterial system, in our biome. But okay, how do we. How do we make a difference? Right? It's not always just popping the pill or whatever, taking a supplement, which is great, but you can do a little bit every day. Like I said, you can eat. Adding in those fermented foods and things like that. Dandelion greens is awesome. And you can get those at the grocery stores or you can hike to the top of a mountain like I do and eat real dandelions right off the mountain. Wow. And then like your prebiotics, those are your resistant starches, your things with inulin and the galactic algul saccharides. I don't know how to say it right, but.

Oh yeah, I got some of those in my refrigerator.

Right. They're called onions, garlic leeks.

That's more helpful.

Sweet Potatoes, ground flaxseed. By the way, people should be eating a lot of ground flaxseed. It's wonderful for you because it also has Omega 3s in it. But feeding your system throughout your day with the prebiotic foods, actual foods, high in fiber, good foods, sets your system up. And then later in the day you could take in the evening. Or like I said, you want to do it without food, so you want to two hours between meals. So if you're a constant snacker, if you've been sold the idea that you have to eat six meals a day, you may be never able to take a probiotic until night. And your insulin lover never goes down, by the way. That's another podcast. Take your probiotic at night. But you can also do things like again, adding in that kefir and the good yogurt to get those probiotics in it around also having good fibrous foods. We are not getting enough fiber in our diet. I think the average good number for Americans is about 60 grams and that's about half of what we really need. So upping your good fiber will help throughout your day to feed your prebiotic biome right things. But you can like leafy greens, a cup of beans, you can dark organic chocolate apple, a medium apple, I mean half of avocados, raspberries, quinoa, broccoli. These are all very high artichokes or very high in fiber. So you can get your fiber in. You want to shoot for that 25 ish, 30 grams of fiber and just spreading it out through your day. It's really not that hard. If we turn to having good organic or I won't say organic because there's a lot of debate there too. But good quality whole foods, if we just return to that and you know, I think we're going to see a big difference. You can help set your system up that way without adding a bunch of pills and supplements.

Well, that's what so many things come back to. That I just think we just to keep it simple, I think we complicate things. It's just, it's all about balance. Keep it diverse, have fun again. This podcast is about exploring your health and wellness, having fun, getting curious, try things you haven't tried. So whether it's the movement one or whether it's brain stuff, same thing with nutrition and gut health is be diverse. If you're eating the same things over and over, it's not great. Quality does count. And then again, just to tie this going back to the supplements because we always want to be cautious when taking supplements or nutraceuticals. So if you didn't listen to that podcast, go back and listen to the podcast on supplements and nutraceuticals and the. All that good stuff. And make sure you do the research on the quality of the one you're getting, because about 46% of these have been found ineffective. And make sure that you're looking at the bioavailability. How is it going through the stomach to get to where it needs to get to make sure it gets there. And make sure you just, you know, get a good quality product and you know, again, have fun, be diverse, try new things, eat new foods, pay attention.

Pay attention to where your food's coming from and, well, stop washing your hands and eat more dirt. No, I'm just kidding.

That's right. Yeah. Hey, do that. Do that, please. Yeah. No, it's interesting. I think I'd like to do it. See a study. You know how they do studies for the happiest people in the world? You know, what country is it? We need to do one. What's the country that has the best bms in the world?

There is one. There's a tribe. It is an African tribe, I believe, and they've done a lot of studies on them and how they eat and they have the healthiest gut biome of anywhere in the world and they eat a lot of dirt and bugs and they eat diverse because they eat through the seasons. And yeah, so there's definitely research.

I can't do the bugs. I can't do the bugs. I can do the dirt. I can't do the bugs. I'm out talking about gut real quick. So clearly here's some signs and symptoms that your gut health could be off. And I'm just coming up with, I'm just going to say some things that I see have seen clinically with clients. Mental fogginess, mental cloudiness, bloating, digestive disturbance, cramping again, issues with constipation and, or diarrhea, metabolic kind of plateauing, if you will. So things like that, you know, struggling with weight loss, energy levels. So those are a couple things. If you have some of those, I'm sure the list can continue on, but those are some of the more common ones that I see. So if you have some of those, you, you know, there are many reasons that could cause some of that. But if you're not taking a probiotic, you know, try it. Does it help? Great. You know, you'll find out by getting curious and Experimenting.

I just went back to the University of ge, which is Google, by the way. It is the western Tanzania tribe called Hadza. That's the tribe that was. That has been shown the healthiest microbiome.

Oh, that's awesome. Yay.

Good for them. Let's, you know. But yeah, just paying attention. What?

I'm sure they have a podcast. We can just listen to their podcast. I'm sure they have one.

I bet they do. Maybe that's part of why they're so healthy is that they. They don't have the podcast.

Yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point.

Our cell phones or TVs or all that good stuff.

Well, I am due. My coffee's gone and I'm ready for my probiotic supplements. I'm gonna go make my shake.

Don't do your probiotics in the morning.

I have to because I didn't do them last night.

You gotta do them. Well then don't eat them with other foods. This is the whole point. You gotta eat them at night if possible or eat them on an empty belly without other food products. Gosh. Do you not listen to your own podcast?

You know, I was, I was listening and thinking and thinking and listening.

But that is perfect example. Like everybody's like, I'm gonna go drink my probiotic shake right now.

I said that because I felt like maybe that other people didn't hear that. So I wanted to bring this up in that way so that it was another way of teaching.

I think it's awesome.

It was a teaching moment.

The teaching moment. I guess if you have program probiotics in your shake, it should be a non pasteurized, hopefully sheep or goat dairy that's followed up with dandelion greens. If you're going to eat it.

You sure are making this easy and convenient, aren't you? I'm just going to go take my suppository now. I'll see. I'll talk to you later.

Take your prebiotics now.

My prebiotic suppository. My probiotic suppository. So prebiotic AM suppository. Probiotic PM suppository.

You're going to have everybody like, what are we supposed to be doing? Prebiotics throughout your day and probiotics on empty stomach at least. I mean that's what again you're probably fine to just throw it all in there. But those. Apparently it is the more optimal, optimal time to do it is in the evening or one or two hours after eating so that it's on an empty stomach sounds awesome.

Let's do this.

Okay. Go get healthy.

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