EP 50 Sound Bowls with Ann Martin

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Singing bowls and songs to help people in their wellness journeys because of how the bowls help the modern mind slow down and find peace and basically find bliss in this crazy busy world.

Hey friends, thank you for listening to the All Things Good for your podcast. Join us as we explore ancient traditions, modern tools and practices in the world of health, wellness and personal development Development. I'm Amy Christiansen, your host and your curated mind coach.

And I'm your co host Brian Bowen, founder of Integrative Health Inc. And Better Human Company High Performance Coaching. Are you ready to take control of your life and start feeling enthusiastic, empowered and limitless each and every day for a life well lived, let your curiosity flow with all things good for you.

Good morning Brian.

Good morning. How the heck are you this morning?

I am good and raring to go.

I, I am too.

Yeah, I love that the, you know, light is coming up so early because I like waking up really early and so I get so much more done in my day when the sun comes up early. How about you?

I love it too. I just use. What's that?

That's you're just gonna sleep in never.

Oh no, I, yeah, well I got up at 6 today. I slept in a little bit but I'm, I'm bouncing and ready to go. I just used the word heck a minute ago and I can't remember last time I said the word heck. So that means I'm extra excited. And I, I too love, I love the morning light. But I also love like when I get off work now it's still light and I feel like I have so much I can like spend. I have life left in me. As soon as the sun goes down, I go down. So I'm solar powered.

Yeah, I love it. I like it. I like waking up. I don't always do it during the week, but on the weekends in particular I definitely spend a little extra time in the morning kind of setting that intention space and doing a little bit of quiet time. And I don't do it for a super long time. I'm not like a 10 minute meditator or 20 minute meditator. I'm more like a 2 to 5 minute meditator. But I find that just taking that little bit of minute to kind of set my, my brain in a good space, do some breath work, listen to like you know, some frequency or a certain, you know, upbeat song to set my day. It's a nice way to kind of have. I just brings my weekend together and I kind of reflect on the week and yeah, I think it, I think it really helps. And we kind of did a, we did a podcast about frequencies not long ago, talking about just different ways that sound waves and things can affect our mental health and our body. But they just, they just sound nice. Yeah, I like, I like really happy, uplifting music. So sometimes the frequencies throw me a little and more into a lull. So I'd like to have a little bit more upbeat. But I don't know, what about you? What do you listen to when you work out?

Well, it's fun that you're talking about those little moments where you don't have to do those 20 minute meditations too. I just want to reference, we talked about the PQ reps in the past. So those little 2 minute, 5 minute little sessions are just like getting your little meditative reps in which build that, that muscle. And I think different people, I have different moments where I resonate with different frequencies. There's times where I'm very excited for a guest we're having on today because I do actually love doing some meditations to this specific thing we're going to talk about. And there's very like tonal frequencies for me. Like I, you know, if I want to be up, I listen to more things that jazz me up. And so I definitely feel my nervous system shifting very dramatically with different tones and different frequencies. Kind of like wearing the color of shirt I'm going to wear in the morning, depending on how I want to feel. And so I love feeling my sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system shifting. And the person we're having on today, I have spent time with and I got to tell you, she makes my nervous system shift.

She shifted the nervous system. I like it as long as it's shifting in a good way. And I, I, I am excited, I'm excited to learn more about it. I have had some experience with it, but you've gone to some of her performances and been like very involved with some of this stuff that she'd been to a few of hers, right?

Yeah. And so just in case you haven't picked up on this, we are pulling in from previous podcasts where we've talked about how frequencies impact the body and, and getting into tones and stuff like that. And this person that we're bringing on today, when I think about for tones and frequencies, she always pops into my mind. I've had some amazing experiences with my, the times that I've been with her in different environments too, which were all, by the way, very magical that she can tell us about. And so I, you know, this again, this podcast is always about getting people to explore and encourage them to step into health and wellness and explore new things and, and, and listen to their bodies and help tune them in. And this is something that I think everybody should, should definitely try out. So I'm excited to have her on. So let's introduce her.

Well, we have Ms. Ann Martin with us. She's an internationally known musician, healer, educator and soundscape artist who brings a contemporary approach to singing bowls and gongs. She, she's a published author and a keynote speaker, but she also is an international instructor of the Bliss Bowls series, which is a five star online singing bowl training course, which sounds pretty great. I'm going to definitely investigate that. So Ms. Ann Martin is here to join us. Talk to us about sound bowls.

Right. Yay.

Good morning, Anne.

Hey. Hi, Amy. Hi, Brian. Thanks for having me on.

Thank you for being with us this morning. I appreciate it.

Great to be here with the bowls and the gong.

I know, I know we don't have our video on and this is a podcast, but you should see she has this amazing, gorgeous gong and this whole beautiful setup of bowls in the background. And I may, I just want to come over and play in your house for the day and just place, place play some music.

Nice. So we will. It's always fun to have three of us on here and so we'll be overlapping and chatting and so forgive us if we overlap a little as we get rolling into our conversation. But yeah, her. And you're. You have a multitude of bowls back here. Ngong, what's the one, the smaller one that is sitting down on the ground, the silver one?

Oh, that's called a steel tongue drum.

Oh, those are so neat.

Yeah, this one's from Germany and it's very special because it has a unique resonance. A lot of steel tongue drums sound kind of like the hand cams, kind of twangy and metal y. But this one is specifically very mellow and easy to listen to and I use it in meditative concerts to help draw people into that meditative mind. So it's a very special instrument that I waited a long time for. Here it sits now so I'm really about that one.

That is so nice. I went, I hiked the rim to rim in the Grand Canyon and a couple a few years ago and coming up out of our last ascent, you there's a little pocket area where this guy was sitting and playing one of those and it was, I get a little choked up remembering that moment because it was so spiritual and it was so amazing. And to walk out of a couple of days experience of being just in the Grand Canyon and doing the backpacking and hiking and then to come up with that sound, it was, I would say it was truly life giving moment. So that's, that's really amazing that you, that you do that for people all the time. So you teach this but you also do live healings and live our meditations and you work with people also one on one.

Yes, yes I do. Either in person or via zoom. I'm happy to talk singles and gongs anytime. I'm kind of a fanatic. So if people get a singing bowl and they don't know how to use it, I can teach them how to use it 70 different ways. Oh, if people are having problems with like sleeping or PTSD or anxiety or depression, I can teach them how to use the singing bowls to help calm their whole self. If you're a teacher in a classroom or a nurse in a hospital, I can teach you how to integrate the singing bowls into what you do best or a massage therapist or anyone in the healing arts. That's always fun. And then yeah, I do live concerts here in Denver. I'm a regular at the five Star Salt Caves on Pearl street in Denver behind Washington Park. And also Denver Botanic Gardens has just given me nine new dates for the last half of the year. So I'm really excited like the gardens.

Oh, I'm excited about that too. Wow. Now Brian, did you do the podcast at the salt cave that she's talking about?

Yes, I did. And so I had went to the salt caves and then I did the was in a session with her and it was magical and it's a great venue to go to to see her because the. It's just beautiful but you know it's very intimate too so it's a very beautiful space to to go be a part of that and you have to get on there and get book she books out just so you know. So she's a popular and well known in this well known and so so if you want in there, you better book it now.

That yeah, that'll be interesting.

Go ahead yeah, I'm just a little bit about your history because I was reading up and I know you were a massage therapist in a little bit, but how give us a little bit about your background and how you evolved into utilizing the bowls and the different ways you use them.

Sure, I've been in the healing arts for 30 years, but I've been a musician for 40. So this was the perfect way to combine those two loves and use singing bowls and gongs to help people in their wellness journeys. Because of how the bowls help the modern mind slow down and find peace and basically find bliss in this crazy busy world. So that's why I named my company Bliss Bowls. So now at this point I teach people all over the world how to use the bowls.

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Their wellness journeys and help themselves and other people through sound and vibration. So I, when I started out with the Bolst, I was a neuromuscular massage therapist, you know, straight really into the physicality of the body, not so much into energy or woo woo at all. And I started noticing a new clientele coming through the door. They were the untouchables, the people who were going through chemo or had PTSD or fibromyalgia, coming to a straightforward body worker for help, sort of an alternative medical help for their issues. And so I started looking for a new tool that helped me, you know, wasn't just going to be helpful to use T bars and elbows on people like this. So oh yeah was introduced to the singing bowls and at that point there wasn't a lot out there about the singing bowls. Now they're everywhere. But 11 years ago there was one book and maybe a couple of videos on YouTube. Anyway, I studied everything I could and then started integrating the bowls into what I did, which was body work, placing the bowls on the body. And it's phenomenal what happens in the physical form when you add sound and vibration to these vessels. Because we're primarily water, sound and vibration travels systemically through the water that makes up you and helps sink into bones and muscles and organs and joints, really relaxing the entire body and harmonizing all the cells. And so it made my job as a body worker much easier. But the other key thing about working with the bowls is that they also calm the mind. And when you can relax the mind first, the body will follow. And these instruments speak the language of the brain is what I call it. They, they produce frequencies like you've been talking about that cause busy beta brain waves to slow down to that alpha theta state easily and effectively and efficiently. So I can basically place a singing bowl at the top of somebody's head as they're lying on a treatment table, give it a gentle gong, and it'll just bathe the brain, really balancing both sides of the brain and taking the mind chatter and stopping it. Because people focus on the sound and then follow the sound into silence. And at that point you have that meditative mind. The mind is ready to receive. And then the body relaxes. And then any physical work that we would do together, or energy work or mental suggestions or meditation comes extremely easily. So with a relaxed mind and body, you can connect with something deeper, which is that voice of true self or deeper wisdom or uncommon creativity or voice of spirit, whatever that might be for people. So it's a true mind, body, spirit, experience, which makes this an incredibly powerful tool for both healers and healing and meditation and stress and. Gee, I sound like I'm born again. I'm sorry, I.

You know, what you. You talking about it and your passion, I swear I'm getting really relaxed. Like, I feel like I'm. The bowls are in here and they're not even. Nothing's happening. But I feel like your, Your tone and your passion is, Is resonating those through your, you know, your conversation. And I'm super getting, I'm getting really relaxed, so I love it.

Okay.

Oh, it's fantastic. And how exciting. I think, you know, we know how significant of a problem we're having with stress, anxiety, depression, you know, it's. It's pretty significant in our. In the United States, but also around the world. And anything, you know, that. I think the last reports, recent report, it's like 16 million Americans suffer from a major depressive disorder. And we know that it's significant for us to work on ways to calm our system, work on the nervous system, but regulate the brain. So if there's just one more fantastic. And one. I mean, it's so pleasing to listen to the resonance of the bowls. I think it's amazing that you found this. And you know, Brian and I both being in the massage world, that I'm fascinated. And now I'm going to be taking one of your courses. So I'm going to check that out because what a wonderful way to add into being able to help care for people. But the fact that anybody could get a bowl and purchase a bowl and you would teach them how to help regulate their own nervous system and you can do that online or in person, that's fantastic. Like, how would somebody even know where and how to find a bowl that works for them?

Well, I. I help people. I take their criteria. I listen to how they want to use it, what their budget is, if they're going to be using it with children's. With children or throwing it in a backpack or what their intention is with the singing bowl. And then I go online to an online importer that I've trusted for 11 years and listen to bowls for hours to find the right singing bowl for an individual. There's a lot of different criteria when you talk about what bowl is right for me. So, for example, if you talk about the metal singing bowls, you know that you want a metal singing bowl if you like layers and layers of tone and sound, because these are very complex. You talk about frequencies. All the frequencies in the metal bowls can't be measured. You can't pinpoint at all. It would just. It takes a guitar tuner and just messes with it. Because there are so many sounds, you would choose a metal bowl. If you need something indestructible, you need a tool that's going to last for a thousand years, well, here it is. It never needs parts, it never needs replacement. It's not going to crack. If you like vibration over pitch, for example, if you want to use a bowl on the body, this is going to give you more vibration than, say, crystal singing. So you've got both of those forces, the sound and the vibration, working to corral that busy brain. If you want to walk with it or hike with it or meditate with it while you're moving, transport it to different places, you want a metal bowl. If you want to put hot water in the metal bowl and you're thinking, why would I ever do that? It's. Well, if you take a large metal bowl and place it on your belly, put hot water in that puppy and then gong it, you've got heat and sound and vibration all working to relax the center of your being, which can be quite helpful for women especially. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Oh, that's fascinating. I know I have, I have my little. Like years ago, I ran off to Austin when I lived in Texas for a getaway weekend, and I went into. I don't Remember like a World Markety type thing back in the day when they were really kind of funky. And I bought a little metal bowl. It's the singing bowl. I never really worked with it very much. It's very inexpensive. I'm sure it's not, but it's very heavy. It's got some beautiful markings on it. And I definitely played with the water levels and listened to the different sounds. And I'm not professionally trained by any means. I'm just playing with it. And that just in itself is so relaxing. But I never thought about putting hot water in the bowl. That is a very good idea.

That usually only works if you've got like a really big bowl that you can sit on your belly. I would hot water in a tiny little broke and set it in your hand because it's going to probably burn yourself.

So yeah, don't do that.

But I wanted to talk about that with crystal balls then for a second, if you don't mind, you would want to choose a quartz crystal singing bowl. You want one beautiful, pure, soaring sound. So for example, if you're a musician and you want to be able to tone or sing with a singing bowl, much easier to sing with these because they hold a pitch, whereas the metal bowls, they're all over the place. These are fragile and breakable and you can actually dial in a specific frequency. You can get bowls that are solved tuning or 440Hz or 432Hz. If that's something that's important to you, you can dial it in with a quartz crystal singing chord. You can get perfect pitch. You can light up the inside, make it different colors by little lights that you can put inside. So if you want to work on the heart chakra, you can turn the whole bowl green with the light inside and then just come with your bowl and work on the heart. And you can also charge water for drinking. You can impart your own intention and vibration into water that you would put in a bowl. And then you can drink it or put it in an atomizer and use it as a mist, things like that. You couldn't do that with a metal bowl. So I listen to how people are going to be using.

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Drive their bowls and. And then help direct them to the right singing bowl that's right for them. And that's all a free service. I do that and teach them how to use it all just because I really believe in this work. People need to find their tool that's going to help them through their life, their anxiety and stress.

Wow, that is.

I'm signing up. I want one.

And the crystal bowls are so pretty. I mean, I. I can't imagine. I've not been to a crystal bowl performance or session, but I've seen the pictures of them where they have them. I'm assuming the different tones and notes and then the. The colors all lit up and it is just beautiful. Is that kind of what you do when you do sessions or like a live performance?

Yeah, that's what I do when I go into concert. What makes my concerts different. Different from other people is that I don't just bang on bolts. I am musician and I believe in the power of music and harmony to help calm the busy brain and help take it deeper into meditation. There's a lot of people out there that. That just randomly bang on balls, creating dissonance. And to me, that's creating more stress, more tension. So I play my bows. They're very specially prepared sound families that I bring together, and I play them in harmonically beautiful ways so that people can go deeper and truly relax. So I think that's significant. And I teach that also in my classes on how to create a sound session. If you ever wanted to work on people, I think it's important to get a particular family of bowls that sound nice in a little tiny treatment room rather than just a bunch of noise dissonance. So, yeah.

Oh, that's really. No, that's smart. And I agree. It's kind of like the difference of people who want to listen to. We've talked about music and different. You'd have heavy metal music. And there are some people who can relax to heavy metal music. And I don't know how they do it, but I can't relax. The classical music. Classical music actually just revs me up. Like I. People used to say, you know, you drive with classical music, so you can relax. And I'm like, no, I will drive like a crazy person. But I'm listening to. So I always think that's an interesting process of helping people find that what resonates with them. Literally.

Yeah.

Hey, Hannah, I had a quick question. So when I have been in your classes or your concerts, I feel, first of all, I just want everybody to know. It feels like there's 10 people playing in there. She's so amazing. I don't even know how you manage everything you manage, but I feel like the vibration, I think every time I've been in your concert, I'm probably, let's say 8ft, 6 to 8ft away from where you've been. And I feel like it's just resonating through my body and I feel like this intense vibration. And I know you were talking about putting the bowls on the body. What's your experience and what do you feel like the diminished response would be if a bowl's on the body versus not on the body? Because I feel like my whole body's vibrating. So I was just curious about one or the other. What your thoughts are on that.

Yeah, absolutely. Like when you came to the concert in the cave, it's such a confined space. It's very small room, only 13 people in there. You get a gong and some singing bowls in there, and there's going to be vibration that travels through the atmosphere, the air, and you'll be able to feel that in your body. Or private sound sessions where the bowls are placed on the body. That can be for more specific type healing work, including physical healing work. Because singing bowls based on muscle groups can stop a pain cycle. And this is significant for any massage therapist who needs to get deep into those tight muscles. And people are just. They've got those holding patterns. You need something that's going to melt those muscles. And by putting a singing bowl on those muscle groups and playing the vibration into those muscle groups, you can melt those muscles so that then the therapist can get in and work each individual muscle group. So I. I hope that answered your question. Is that kind of where you with that?

Yeah, yeah. No, it was.

They work systemically, but they also work in very specific areas. Like. Well, for example, if you have a singing bow and you ever have trouble falling asleep, you can actually place your little singing bow as you're lying down on your chest and give it a little tap the striker and then breathe in the sound. Take the sound deep into your system. Imagine breathing it in and focusing on the sound as it circles your head as it sits here on your chest, and then focus on the vibration that you feel to through the sternum. Those vibrations go straight into the heart. And this combination of ideas, both visualization, breathing, vibration sinking into the bony structure of the body, and also the circling sound, creates a perfect, perfect conditions to help you fall asleep. And boy, sleep deprivation these days it's, it's a pandemic. I mean, everyone is all sleeping these days. And a singing bowl can really help. In fact, the simplest, most profound meditation with a bowl that you can do is simply tapping the singing bowl and following the sound in the silence and you're there. And these bowls that are all hand hammered from the Himalayan regions of Tibet, they produce a long sustain. And so the journey of sound that comes from these bones, when you follow it into silence is profound and really helps you learn how to focus better stop the mind chatter so that you can think more clearly. And that's really what meditation is all about. It doesn't have to be stopping all thought. And by doing that you're thinking, did I stop all thought? Well, then you're thinking. So you just. But when you have something to focus on, it entices the mind. What's in silence for you? And this meditation, following the sound and the silence is something that anyone can do from age 2 to 102. It works for children, school children, adults, people with all kinds of issues. You know, it's a, it's a fantastic way of providing yourself with some self care.

It's amazing to think about. Sorry, go ahead, Amy.

I was just, I'm just amazed I had, you know, I had such a little experience, experience and understanding of it and it's just, I'm just blown away at how deep it can go. And following into the silence. What a wonderful statement.

Just.

That's, that's all I had to say, just that.

Beautiful.

So this, the, the crazy, the amazing thing to me is this has been around and you, if you could tell us a little history for thousands of years and the bowls were made of different metals and, and had a different, from meditation to spiritual, you know, ideas around it. But could you tell us a little bit about the history? Because it's amazing to hear about this now, but like there's a rich history behind it.

Yeah, there is actually. The bowls were used in secret ceremonies by the Tibetan monks. And so there's not a lot known about how they used the bowls. But I, I've always heard, just through verbal history, that the singing bowls were used in many different ways in those monasteries. For example, when a monk came into the monastery, he was given his own singing bowl. And so at night he would use it as his pillow, he'd turn the bowl over, put his robe upon it, and then he'd use it as his pillow. In the morning he'd get up and go down to the river and use it as his wash basin. He'd go and receive his food in his singing bowl. He'd clean that out and go into the town and ask for alms for the poor in the singing bowl. He'd use the singing bowl to heal the people in many other ways like we talked about today. And then finally for the for the monks to go deeper into prayer. They would use the singing bowls to take them much deeper into their connection with supreme being wherever they needed their minds to go. And so the bowls to my way of thinking are working bowls. They're not a beautiful artifact that needs to sit on a shelf. That's the saddest thing for, for a hole like this to go through is to just and not be used. They're working roles and you should take them with you absolutely everything.

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Now how they're made is these are hand hammered singing bowls from Tibet. Those are the only kind that I deal with when I try to sell someone or match a bowl with someone. Because the hand hammered bowls are one of a kind. They are as unique as you are. As the individual earth elements are gathered, primarily bell metals like bronze and copper and tin are gathered and melted over fire, poured into a general shaped in water and then painstakingly hand hammered by artisans as they chant affirmations and songs so that bowls reach their final shape and their final tone. And each and every hand hammered bowl, you can feel those hand hammer marks on the bottom of the bowl, which really kind of helps people relate to them. Because we've all been beaten up by life, right? And the bulls remind us that even though they've been beaten up by life, they're inspiring. They can still find their beautiful personal sound from their center and encourage us to do the same. So if you were listening carefully, you also noticed that their inception uses all of the elements. We had earth and we had fire, we had water. You play with wood and air is the chanting of the affirmations. So hand hammered Himalayan sea peoples are the best tools, but you know, everyone's jumping on the bandwagon now. You can find them in Etsy, find them on Amazon. You can find them for 35 bucks. They're probably machine made and there's nothing wrong with a machine made bowl. They're sweet and they produce a little chimy sound and the sustain is very brief, but they're affordable. So any bowl is better than no bowl, but these are kind of the. That Ferrari.

Yeah.

Well, speaking of. No, speaking of no bowl, one of the things I was going to ask you about was, you know, with modern technologies, there's apps now with singing bowls and, you know, people are putting little mindfulness things on there with the singing bowls and you can play with them. But the way you described what you described and the beauty and the artisan and something we talked about before we jumped on this podcast about the intention, there's just not even a comparison to. I think it's cool that, that people are putting energy into that technology, but to have a tactile feel and to see the beauty of that and the intention that went into making that bowl and the intention that you're using it, I just feel like it doesn't even come close to comparing to modern technologies. I don't know if you've played much with those or not.

You mean having a bowl in person is, is. Is, is better than having an app? Is that what you're saying?

Oh, yeah. Well, I just like I've played with app, but just the. Again, the energy and, and the energy that goes into making that bowl and to have this tactile thing, I just feel like it just. You cannot replace the bowl with any. With or you can't have the app. And I feel like you lose so much, you know, you just lose out. You lose out on so many, so many beautiful things that you were describing.

Yeah, but an app is better than nothing.

Yeah.

To capture the sound of the metal singing holes on an app in a studio. A sound studio. I've done that too. I'm on the Muse system, if you're familiar with Muse headset. And so I've got a whole recorded bunch of, I guess apps or, or sections of songs that I created with the singing bowls. Very hard to capture in a studio. You have to have a sound person who knows exactly what they're doing because every time you hit the bowl, it comes up with something different. And to try to record loud and soft is. It's very difficult.

Yeah. And it's similar to just any type of music. I would think it's lovely to have our studio recorded musicians music, but there's nothing that can beat a live concert and having that. That feeling of being in the music. So I would just assume even more so with the bowls that the experience of having a live singing bowl performance is by far more healing and rewarding. So I. When you work with people and you help them pick their bowl and then they can get a bowl and if they can't come to a live session, but they could have their bowl and then be do sessions with you online and learn or, you know, that would probably be the next best thing to being live in a concert or a performance. But how. How would somebody find you if they wanted to do something like that?

Well, thank you. I think folk could visit me on mild high healingvibe.com that's my website. Or you can Google Blissful. It's one word. Or just type in Ann Martin singing bowls into a Google search. But my old high H I G H healingvibe.com is my website and it's all on there. All the online classes, all the upcoming events, information about sound and vibration, interesting stories and articles that I've written, lots of pictures and how to pick a singing bowl that's right for you. And even some free concerts, some free videos are on there and free sound recordings that you can listen to. And that's amazing. Yeah, I hope you'll miss.

Absolutely. And we'll put the links to everything in our show notes too. And now you mentioned that you have something going on with the Botanical Gardens in Denver. And when, when are you doing another performance? Like, what's your next concert schedule at the gardens? Anywhere.

Well, anywhere. Well, the Five Star Salt Caves is like I've got 10 weekend concerts every month at the Five Star Salt Caves. The Botanic Gardens is kind of random. They're right in the finishing stages of putting together the times and the locations. So I'll be putting that on my events tab on my website. Okay. I've got a nice summer solstice concert coming up in conjunction with a colleague of mine named Travis Rumsey. He brings a gong wall. If you can imagine, there are more gongs playing and a hundred singing bowls of all kinds, crystal and metal and a bunch of random instruments and drums and everything all played in harmonically beautiful ways. So for every solstice and every equinox, we get together and we push out something that is just phenomenal. So that's on the website. You should check that out. I will.

That's amazing. Amazing. I remember the. The real quickest story. The first one I did with you, you had a broken leg. I think you were on a. Was it a leg or did you hurt your knee?

I broke my ankle in three places.

So I'M laying down on a scooter. Sorry. God. Yeah, you were on a scooter. And again, that was just you. And I remember having my eyes closed and I saw you, you know, you had that. You were on the scooter. And I, again, I felt like there was, like, all these different musicians behind me, and I literally had to open up my eyes and turn around and look because I thought there was no way it was possible that you were playing, you know, all of these instruments at once, all these bowls. And then you had the gong, because you. You use the gong as well. And it's just amazing how phenomenal you are at what you do, and the passion that you have for it really shines through.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much. It's. It's my purpose, it's my love, and I'm lucky to be able to pursue that. So thank you for your support in getting the word out. Yeah, thank you.

Well, I'm gonna. I'm gonna set up an appointment for Ball.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I. I am. I'm absolutely intrigued. I would love to start using this on some of my. My clients, so this would be wonderful. And I want to know more about working with my, you know, the coaching clients, too, through online work and helping with their stress management. This has really been enlightening, and I'm excited to learn more about it. So thank you so very much for joining us and spending some time with us this morning. I hope everybody out there in podcast land is intrigued as well and enjoyed learning about this. Yeah. I just really appreciate you joining us.

I'm honored. Thank you.

I think we are putting up. Well, we are going to put a video link up, I think, on the podcast or a YouTube video, if that works for one of your concerts. So a little, little clip, so check that out, too.

Wonderful.

Okay, well, thank you and thank. Yep. Thank you, Brian, for thanking everybody.

Yep.

We will bounce onto our day. And again, thanks to Ann Martin with Bliss Bowls and Mile High Healing Vibe. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. And, Brian, you want to wrap us up here?

Yes. Thank you, Anne. And please, please, please, if you love this podcast, if you found something that was very informational for you and that you resonated with and connect with, pass this out to as many friends and family as you can. Please share the podcast that keeps us going, and we love the feedback that we get from you. So please share any feedback. Leave us a rating and review on Spotify and Apple. It's really, really helpful. And go check Ann out everybody. She's amazing.

All right, thank you everybody. You guys have a good day.

Thank you.

Okay, bye.

Bye.

Thank you, Ann. Bye.

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