EP 61 Breaking Through Emotional Scars With New Levels Of Achievement

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A decrease in mobility over a period of time physically or mentally creates pain and it's amazing how many people do not want to on a physical level as well as emotional level want to take that on. And again, I think there's a lot of fear around it.

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Amy Charisse, how the heck are you?

I'm doing well. Thank you for using my middle name that I so adore. What's your middle name?

It's really fancy, Michael. It's Scott.

Scott.

That's right. Brian Scott.

Brian Scott. And my dad's middle name is Scott. And we. I wanted to be cheesy. My son's middle name is Scott. So yeah, so we'll see if he. We'll see how that goes.

Right? We have lots of lose. L, O, L, O, U. We have lots of lose handed down to the female side of our family. Middle name, very southern. Is it Lou? I suppose so. My mother's name was Sherry Louis. My mother grandmother's name was Mary Lou. I think there was a Lou before her but now my. And you know my sister's name is Cindy Lou because she's older. Yes, she's the older one who.

How'd you break the Lou cycle?

Because she was born first. So she got it. She got the Cindy Lou, but I got Amy.

Amy Lou too.

That would have been funny. I like Cherise and this is why I've like gravitating over to that being more of my coaching name and my whatever you want to call it, public name. But Amy Charisse because it's Sherry. It's a derivative of Sherry. And Sherry meaning beloved darling. And then Amy is also love and friend. So it's Perfect. It's the love Friend. Beloved. Adorable.

My beloved friend. You are my. You are my beloved friend.

That's it. I thought it was very poetic and very indicative of my personality and the way I want to treat people, the way I do treat people. And so that Christensen is my married name and I'm no longer married, so I kept it for my children. And then it's a lot easier to just keep your name. And I was not particularly attached to my maiden name, hence the new name. Amy Charisse.

Amy Charisse, are you looking forward. I know we chatted a little bit last week in the hallway and I know. Are you looking forward to a more energetic, happy, exciting week? I think I had some challenges last week and you had some challenges last week, so I'm looking forward to we work through some of those. And are you ready for the week ahead?

I am, yeah. I think one of the nice things about you and I going on the coaching journey together is we can really lean into each other as we go through our growing pains in this process because nothing comes without a push and barriers to break through. And if you look at what we did in mid September, it's been what, like six weeks or so now. We both came back with some pretty high expectations and some pretty good, like goals that we were pushing for in a short amount of time. And we. I've definitely pushed through a lot of self limiting beliefs again, even though we both have learned and developed so much over our lifetime. But in the last couple of years, we never stop growing, we never stop learning deeper and deeper about ourselves. And I think both of us pushed through some of that coming to a head with some of our goals last week. And that's led to a great conversation that we decided to do a podcast about this week. What are we dealing with when we have struggles and barriers, challenges and frustrations? What's coming up for us?

Are you asking me?

Is this thing on?

Hello, Mike.

Hello.

I know for my week last week it was, there was a lot of friction and it was self friction. It wasn't friction like from any external sources. It was friction within myself. And it wasn't necessarily. There was a lot of things that was around and so it just took a minute for me to work through it. But one of the things that I have learned that really helps me, and it literally took me four days to remember this is as soon as I, a lot of times hit that place where there's those sabotaging thoughts and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then I just felt I almost felt like for a minute I'm like, I'm not gonna lie. I felt like for a minute I was like, I'm just tired of trying. Like I'm. I try. Like I'm constantly. Because I love it because I'm passionate, but at the same time, I just wanted to collapse for a minute and. But then I stopped and I remembered, like, again, four days into it, oh, my gosh, I'm about to grow. Because for me, anytime I feel like that, it's also an opportunity for growth. And I feel like usually when I hit that wall, I do grow from it because I spend time breaking down. I don't want to say the word because I know you're excited to say breaking down some stuff that Amy's going to say.

You can say it.

I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to. Breaking down some of stuff. And there's different ways of breaking it down, but one of the ways of me breaking this special stuff down that you're going to say is, is to realize there's growth. And then during that, when I hit that little wall, I was like, wait, I. There's always growth the other side of this. And then it made me realize and get excited about it. And then that excitement also made me realize I'm not being as congruent in certain aspects as much as I want to be. And so I'm like, okay, I need to get creative. And so we're going into 2024 and it's okay. I'm changing some things around. And then all of a sudden, all this other stuff just melted away a little bit more. So, yeah, it was really interesting experience. I feel already less friction moving into this week and a lot more excitement.

Yeah, I love it. A few things come up for me around that is even just hearing and.

Knowing that you and I are a.

Lot alike and high achievers and self development.

My middle name is Cherise, too.

Oh, I love it. Brian Cherise. Now, I totally lost track of what I was saying, but I think we get into the habit of. And. And society does this too, right? We're ashamed of not being perfect or.

Not being.

All achieving. And I think that we get into a fear. I even hear it possibly when you're saying it. Things like, it's almost hard for you to say, man, I felt like crap about myself last week and I did. I just wanted to sit down and say, screw it, I'm done.

I'm never going to try anymore.

I've been trying too hard. I. I hear that's almost hard for you to say. And it's almost like it's a fear of failure. Or if we say it, it's either going to make us look bad or it's going to take us over. It's like the black line coming up from the monster shows or the alien shows. And once you give in, you're. You're gonna never get out.

And I think it's hard. Even with our coaches being super successful, they admit that they've had bad days. Brendan is one of our both mentors and coaches and he's funny. He's. You guys think I wake up this way because he's super high energy and positive and he's. You should see me in the morning. I am not like this at all. It takes time and focus. And I went and visited a friend of mine a few weeks back and she had made a comment about, I wish I woke up with all this happy energy like Amy does. And Amy just wakes up and everything's beautiful. And I was like, no. Yes, sometimes I do, but. But often I don't. I have to choose to think and look at the things that I find gratitude in. I have to spot any irrational swirling that's happening, the sabotage, and catch myself and say, oh, no, we're not going to actually go that route. Here are the things I know how to do to keep myself from going down that dark pit of despair and do the practices that make me seem like I'm always chipper and happy and go lucky and always positive, because you're not, nobody is. And. Or maybe very few people are. And so I think what we have to recognize and what came up for me this last week is that it reminded me of the scar tissue that we get from a physical accident. Right. You and I both work with people all the time. And whether it was from physical therapy or now in massage therapy and acupuncture and rehab work, when somebody injures themselves, the body throws down an emergency binding agent that creates all this tissue and it's very messy most of the time. When our bodies are format forming muscle tissue and scar or skin and fascial tissue, it's all night, it's got its groove and its line, it's all nice and orderly. But when you have an injury, it's really messy and. And I call it the spider man web. Splat. And I think we can take that same process of the physical scar. And it's the same with emotional scars.

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And it doesn't have to be a big, huge trauma. These are learned behavior patterns that run very deep into our system and they don't necessarily ever completely go away. Just like some people with scar tissue. They might get better and they might have improvements, but until they've gone to the next level of activity or movement, they may find, hey, there's still a little bit of scar tissue and dysfunction in this part of my body that I can go in and do a little bit more rehab work on or tissue work on and address some additional limitation that I didn't realize was still there because I was functioning just fine in the level of activity that I was at. It goes the same way for us emotionally. Like, we talk all the time and even I have changed my language about ending our sabotaging belief or our sabotaging behaviors and ending limiting beliefs. I don't know that we ever can completely end those things because our brains are purposefully, very wisely developed to remember and watch for unhealthy things, things that could cause us pain. I don't think those things ever go away. We just get better at spotting it. We get better at catching them, and we have tools to be more aware with that process. And I think the same thing like that scar tissue analogy with anytime you're going to grow, anytime you're going to push yourself out of your comfort zone, I don't care how functional and successful you are, you will probably always run into hints and elements of those deep running emotional scars or development, limited behavior patterns or your whole life, but you get better at learning the skill to thwart it.

Yeah, I really love the analogy of the physical aspect and scar tissue because when there's a fibrosis that's a reactive process to injury or damage, and then that results in the scar tissue. But the quality and the feeling of that is it's thick and it's stiff. And so we know when we have that in our body, it decreases our mobility. That becomes the dysfunction. We start to develop all these Compensations around it. And so emotional scars actually decrease our neuroplasticity, which makes us not as psychological resilient. So same kind of, same exact thing. We become thick and stiff, if you will, and we become stuck in some of our perspectives and we lose that psychological resilience. And it's almost like you can use that too as a litmus test for yourself, like just to check in, hey, how flexible am I? How stiff I'm mentally? Like, am I open to these other ideas? How do I take constructive feedback? How do I see myself? How do I. And again, if you feel there's that thick and there's that stiffness there, then there is a psychological scarlet or a barrier that is decreasing that flexibility just like it is in our bodies. And just like you said, we have to, we continue to be able to see these things. And as you dive into this and you make personal development a way of life and you start to really have, be more introspective, start spending more time on yourself during the day instead of on Instagram or on tv. If you just spend that one hour or whatever you just looking at yourself and having these conversations, we can start to see and identify more of these emotional scars. And it's okay, is that a compensation or is that the dysfunction? Because we can, we obviously want to get to the root of it. And sometimes those compensations are some of the behaviors and some of the things that we have developed around whatever that initial trauma was. And trauma being it's not, doesn't have to be a massive appearing, a massive thing. It can be something as small as feeling like you let yourself down when you were a kid. Sometimes we can't see stuff when we were a kid as easy as an adult because they've been buried under there for a while. But then again, just like the body, you have a dysfunction. A slight sprained ankle when you were seven, untreated. All of a sudden, later compensations begin to develop around how you walk, right? Your knee, turn, your femur turns out and your then life, you have a hip problem. But all of that started from your ankles being able to, to stop and just first just notice, yeah, I have something limiting my psychological resilience. So there is something there. Okay, what is it? Where, what is that scar? And then like you said, the process of, of breaking that scar tissue up like manually. When we do it, it requires friction. It requires us to dig in there. It requires some more kind of multi, multi level approaches and some more aggressive than others. And more importantly, it requires a combination of passive and active therapies. And so the active therapies is you. Is me looking at this stuff, asking the right questions and then pushing into it to break some of those patterns and say, no, I'm not going to allow that anymore. This. We're going to. We're going to move past this barrier and it's going to smack you in the face sometimes, and you just got to get back up and smack it back. That's so aggressive. I didn't mean that.

Really.

I'll let you take over for a minute. I get excited about breaking the scar tissue up. You love talking about scar tissue. I'm ready to break my down needles out and get crazy here.

Yeah. Oh, down needling is so good for that. But I know I. I love how you're saying all of that because first of all, I love that you've always. You've done such a good job being a leader and a teacher that you always have such good language around explaining these things. So kudos to you. And it is just like that. And I think we do have to learn much. If you had, again, a massive injury or if you had a problem that you had surgery for, you're not just gonna jump back into skiing or jump back into running if you've had a big injury, you're going to work up to that process and you're going to be careful and observe how you're doing. And I was. Something you said just made me go, yeah. It's like you have to build stair. Step back into a process and build good boundaries around that. And the boundaries is just that therapy process. Right. Of physical therapy to, you know, going back into it slowly and working back into the level you once did or the level you wanted to in a safer way. Sorry, excuse me.

Bless you, Amy.

Sharice. Bless you, Amy. Sharice.

Thanks, Father Brian. I don't know what it sounds like.

I don't know.

I did watch a horror movie last night that all took place in a Catholic church, so I don't know what was happening right there, but that might have been a little bit of some subconscious training from the movie I watched last night. Influence.

Oh, it's funny. I don't watch scary movies. I think life is scary enough without those things.

But.

But, yeah, I think, again, just the recognition of one. We don't need to be ashamed around messing up. Ashamed.

Amen.

Continuing.

Can I get an aim in on a Monday?

Thanks, Brendan. I don't think we should. I think we should spot the being ashamed. Right. And avoiding acknowledging when we're struggling. I think I'm very much a proponent of looking at why you feel what you feel and not shoving it down. Don't be avoiding your shadow side. Right. I love union theory. I like that. Hey, there's a reason we are behaving the way we're behaving. And it's part of even. Just like my. The certification for Primal Question coaching that I'm working with on Mike Foster right now is just that understanding the thing that's underneath, the thing that drives you and where that comes from in your base, in your childhood. Usually it can come from big T or little T later in life, but there's an undercurrent of why we do what we do and what we think. And it's usually a protection mechanism, and we have to not be ashamed of those things. But to. To stop and look at it and go, we can do this at any level. Just because you're successful and doing great and you're generally positive, we shouldn't have shame around. Shouldn't have. We shouldn't. I shouldn't be shooting on things. Darn it. Shouldn't shoot on the.

Should.

We should avoid. I think it's more helpful if we will embrace and avoid being afraid of our fears, being afraid of the triggers. Like you said friction earlier. And I think the only time we have friction is when we're being pushed through something that is challenging. And what causes you friction may not cause me friction. We could be in the same scenario, emotionally speaking, and through life's challenges. Like, we could be in the same scenario and it wouldn't cause me friction, but it could cause you friction. That is still something that's a. A thought process and an understanding from within ourselves. It's literally how I think about something. My perception about a scenario is causing me the friction. What you think and what you feel about a situation is based off of your perceptions of that. And it is based off of early childhood understanding or an event that happened that shifted the way we think. And we're avoiding feeling something uncomfortable. We're avoiding feeling disappointment. We're avoiding feeling like we failed at something. We're avoiding feeling like we wasted our time. Whatever it is. We are trying to avoid something that made us feel bad at one point and that it was a perception of the scenario.

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Those are the scar tissues.

Yeah.

Right?

Totally agree.

Yeah, that's where we have to go back in and go. Okay, there's still a little bit of this left, this trigger, this friction. I'm unhappy, I'm frustrated, I'm disappointed, I'm sad, I'm. And those aren't bad feelings, they're just feelings. Where are they coming from and how valid are they?

Yeah, it's interesting. I always love when we get into this going back to some Chinese medicine stuff real quick. I always love like the five element aspect, because in the center you have these five elements, but in the center it's like it's the. The essence of you, the authentic self. When we get into what is enlightenment and all this stuff, it's before you have been conditioned by your experiences, by your environment and all this stuff. So once you move into that cycle, these are all life experiences that help create filters and help you navigate and whatever. And sometimes you get stuck in some because of some of those emotional scars. Right. And you identify where you're stuck in this one category. So you're no longer moving effortlessly through these different cycles of life and not just talking about linear, but within yourself. And these states of conditioning are just perspectives that we all have. It's so hard sometimes just to label it. That's. Okay, wait. This mindset is a state of conditioning. Where did that state of conditioning come from? Do I still support that belief? Why do I? Why am I, you know, why does it not feel right? So sometimes it feels thick. Ooh, it feels frictiony. Oh, it feels. I feel stuck here. Oh, I'm tired of feeling this way. So it's okay. You're stuck. You're stuck in this specific state of conditioning, which is. Let's just change that to the emotional scar in that category. And you know, how. Are you ready to change that? Are you ready to move on from that? Because it's not. It doesn't support your beliefs anymore. It doesn't support who you want to be. It doesn't support who you need to be. It doesn't support you moving forward. And I think that recognition. I'm a guy, so I'm just going to say this. I'm Just generally labeling here. It took me and I'm still working on like, even last week when I had some feelings and I was like, what is this feeling? I'm like, oh, wait, that's anxious. That's anxiety. Oh, what is that anxiety about? Oh, I'm freaking tired. Oh, what am I tired of? I'm tired of trying in these certain areas and not feeling like I'm moving the ball forward. Oh, why do I feel that way? Like that even I'm getting turned 50 years old and I've been studying this and been involved with personal development since my early 20s and it's still just a stop because I move. I'm just like, don't like that. I'm going to, I'm going to fix that. Okay, let's spend some time with that. So clearly I didn't like it.

So we didn't.

It was nice to dig into it. Didn't like it. State of conditioning. Where did that come from? If we want to label it? Great. I know where that was. My. I grew up in a house with two women, my sister and my mom, who both of them had the lowest self esteem you could imagine. And I literally was just thinking about this the other day and I don't know why. Again, I'm almost 50. That's like a big epiphany to me. And that was my environment that I spent. I saw my dad every other weekend. So the majority of my month was spent in this household that they unfortunately had very low self esteem. And so like, how could they support my self esteem? How could they build me up that way? So it's, oh, there's some scar, there are some old scars there, but it's not. I don't blame anybody. I don't blame them. But it showed like it, it's built up to where some of that resilience, some of that mobility has been limited a little bit. And it doesn't always have to be a big thing. It can be a little thing because as you continue to grow, it might just be like, ooh, this feels off. I don't like this. I want to change this. But your life is good. First world problems. It's, oh, my life is good. But. And that's okay because it's better to catch those little things and the more awareness you start to see those little. And it's all about refining, improving and enhancing all aspects of your life as far as removing those emotional scars and being able to put that mobility back into that tissue, put that mobility back into your neuroplasticity and see things from a clear perspective and take the tints off of your own glasses.

Yeah, no, I love for 30 minutes just now.

No as a monologue.

Well, I appreciate that you bring in the things that we pick up from our childhood and especially appreciate that you don't hold on to the blame because it doesn't do any. It's not helpful to blame our parents like they are just figuring out their stuff. And it's one of the things I love about the Primal Question approach for coaching is that it helps you get to that goes back to that. It's not therapy, but it does help identify maybe where we've developed these certain tracks of thinking and these levels of the way we approach it. In Primal question is that you have a question that didn't get fully answered with a yes and you spend the rest of your life with these kind of coping mechanism and possibly manipulations to get a yes, even if it's a false yes. And it creates unhealthy behavior patterns if you're in that space. Right. And you probably learned how to get a yes to something in your life in a certain behavior in a certain way that you didn't have because your parent, your mom, your. Would you say your aunt or your mom and your sister.

My mom and my sister.

They didn't have the skills to show you because they didn't have it either. And when we are doing self development, maybe we've learned ways to rise above certain destructive or unhelpful behavior patterns of thinking. But again, because that scar tissue can run deep fibrously, even if it's a little T versus a big T, that scar tissue can run deep into the muscle tissue and deep towards the bone tissues and deep into all the areas of the fascial tissue. And we don't know that it's still there until you're confronted with a new way of moving or a level of movement that maybe we haven't done since we had that scar tissue develop. And you're not going to necessarily. Some people do blame the accident or blame the doctor or blame the surgery and they hold on to that. But. And they can use that as an excuse to not push themselves forward. Because here's the thing, you and I both know that when somebody comes in and we know whether it's right after a surgery or a recovery accident or it's long time chronic scar tissue and it's a little painful and challenging to break that up, some people don't really want to do the work to break it Up. They don't want to face the pain. The body still sees that as a threat. They would rather just live in a limited movement pattern than to deal with the struggle of breaking up that tissue. Same thing in life. Are you going to live in that space where you just continue to live with that lack of progress and live in a perceived barrier that this emotional scar or this little bit of scar tissue and friction is causing in your life because you don't want to do the uncomfortable work of confronting where that's coming from. You and I have learned really good skills, I think, to recognize that and go through it quickly. And that's where we've gone through with sharing our personal development skills and sharing the things that we've learned. Because one, we like it, but two, it's. We want to help other people be able to break through that scar tissue quicker. Great if you have an afternoon where you're down, or great if you have a week where you're pushing through something. It's no longer a year or years of limiting thinking and saboteur and behavior patterns.

Yeah.

I want to bring. Come back as you talked about some old scar tissue and just again, the analogy of the. The physical body in relationship to emotional body is so real and I think really clear. The older the scar tissue, the more compensations have built around that. So the original trauma, like you said, does it, you know, big T, a little T doesn't matter, creates this kind of dysfunction, and then those compensations build around it. And the older you are, the longer it's been there, the more compensations built around it. And it's much harder to break that scar tissue up physically and mentally. And I think we can see that clearly on a physical level when we're working with clients that have old injuries and traumas. I have a bunch of clients right now that, hey, if they're happy, if we can get 20%, 10% improvement in mobility. Right. And because eventually the decrease in mobility physically and mentally creates pain. Right. A decrease in mobility over a period of time, physically or mentally, creates pain. And it's amazing how many people do not want to, on a physical level as well as emotional level, want to take that on. And again, I think there's a lot of fear around it. It's amazing to me how physically some people would rather just go and get another surgery to remove it, which then creates more scar tissue. Right. Versus doing some of the other, going through the process of some of this other stuff, although sometimes that is extremely necessary. Don't get me wrong. But I give kudos to people that are really trying as they get older to really still work on increasing that mobility, on breaking down that scar tissue, on taking on, and putting themselves as a priority in both the physical and mental capacity. And I know it's work and it's a roller coaster ride. There can be pain going through that physically and mentally, on going through that process. And so to, to, to do that and to spend time with that and to not flee from it and Is a huge thing. And when you come out on the other side and you have less pain and you have more mobility physically and mentally, it's worth it.

Yeah, exactly. And I think that's the message of today is just that having that compassion with yourself. No matter where you are in life, no matter what your age is, no matter how successful you are, no matter how agile you are or are not, I have some compassion with. We're all human and we all, we. You cannot see where, how, necessarily where the friction and the scar tissue has bound. And all you can do is deal with it when you, when you find it and don't avoid it and create more dysfunction around it by avoiding it and being afraid of it. Like this is normal. Your body is protecting itself. It wasn't trying to, it wasn't being bad. It wasn't malfunctioning. It was doing its job by protecting you from an injury. And now your job is there then to break up that scar tissue and get it to remodel in, in a more effective way that's more cohesive to your body working the way it's supposed to. And same thing with our emotional content.

Yeah.

So when you get those days where you're like, holy crap, I just want to quit. Have compassion with yourself and just be like, you know what? I'm just going to take an afternoon or an hour or whatever, a week, whatever you need and step back and have some compassion and awareness of what's going on, where it's really coming from, what's really happening, and then what you can do to create more movement and forward motion. And nobody would be mad at you if you did quit.

Yeah.

Sometimes it is necessary. Just like sometimes you do have to go get surgical intervention done. Sometimes you do come to a place where you decide, this isn't working the way I wanted to and it's really not benefiting something. I'm glad you didn't. I'm glad you didn't quit.

Yeah. And I do want to say just to again, always be cautious as sometimes with these psychological scars they do require a variety of healthcare practitioners that are licensed to handle some of these things, and. And a lot of it isn't necessary. Just make sure when we're talking about those psychological scars, there's different levels. Right. We respect that. I pose a question to everybody, and I guess my question would be the way you're showing up in the world, the way that you're presenting yourself, the things that you're contributing to the world, to your environment, to the people around you, are they coming from a functional, authentic, adaptive you, or are they coming from areas of compensation built around any sort of psychological scars or the dysfunction itself? So it's just an interesting thing to look at. Just pause and be like, oh, some of the ways I've showed up this week are not my most functional. I don't want to say functional. Well, let me just say functional. But I mean, that's in a kind way. Or are they showing up because of behaviors that are built around some sort of emotional scar? The way I communicate, the way I act, the way I just show up in general, like, how are you showing up? And where are those contributions coming from?

Yeah, absolutely. And I know. I thank you for bringing that up because I think it's also a good reminder that while we are often talking about deep subjects and we're coaches, we are not therapists in that. In the emotional mental health space. And the way that we clarify and quantify whether we're going to work with somebody is that they have their functioning adults in society, sometimes children, but we don't really coach children necessarily. But you're still functioning and you're just meeting some resistance and some needing some clarity to move forward. If you're in a space in life and if we recognize even a client that we're working with is in a place that's really needing a lot more deep work and that you are not thriving or not even not thriving, but you're just not functioning in life. Those are the signs that you do need to work with a therapist and get some. Some background work done. And al also, no shame ending the shame around that. I don't know how many people still to this day, if you talk about being in therapy, they see that as there's something wrong or you're broken, or there's something significantly troubling with you. And that is not always the case. You're just working through some deeper things that are causing you more than just a little bit of a struggle and friction and needing clarity to move forward. They're holding you back and they're disrupting the happiness and functionality of your. Your life. And that's not where coaching is going to jump in.

Everybody needs a therapist. Everybody needs a coach. Everybody needs a support system. Everybody needs a cheerleader.

That's right. Thanks for being my cheerleader, Amy.

Sharice.

I'm here for you and my. And my pre.

You got this, girl.

I love it. So I think that was just our big messages that recognizing have compassion with yourself, but also building that self awareness and reaching out for help if you need it. And however, whatever level, like being honest with yourself, with how productive and happy and functioning you are in your life, there are options for you and there's no reason to stay in a stuck, unhealed scar tissue that's really impeding your mobility in life.

I just want to throw something out there. I just want to be clear too. I just like most of my scar tissue. Sure, I. We all have emotional scar tissue. We all have life experiences that other people have done to us. But the majority of mine that I've had to work through is stuff that I chose to do. The decisions that I made that didn't, that weren't right decisions or the choices that I made that weren't right choices. We learn from those lessons and we move on. But sometimes the way we do that, hopefully we do, but sometimes the way we do that or isn't necessarily the right way because again, we're. We're utilizing these compensations. We're compensating and doing behaviors that you know aren't the best path to get to that. And just to be clear, these psychological scars don't always have to be something that somebody did to you. It could be thoughts or actions or things that we've done to ourselves. And so if there's an area where you feel like things are thick or there's a lack of mobility or there's friction or there's whatever, just look at that and take a moment to realize, oh, there's something there. And am I ready to move through this past it? Am I ready to break this up? How am I going to do that? All questions can we.

Can. I love that you mentioned that because it serves an idea. Can we dive into a little bit of self leadership and ownership of our life and our next podcast, can we go into that a little bit?

Yeah, because I feel like, I guess I can be vulnerable enough for this.

I mean, I would have to be very vulnerable with the two. Because there are some hard truths about taking responsibility for what happened in our life. And how we played a part in that and what that looks like on moving forward and building healthy self awareness and healthy boundaries and moving past, possibly holding, holding people responsible, whether it for past behaviors and past events. It doesn't have to go into the deep dark side. And obviously if you've been hurt by somebody physically or abusively, it's one thing, but there are some other things that we can take agency in our life and take self responsibility for that. I think sometimes a hard conversation to have. So do you want to maybe dive into that next call?

Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Thank you Amy, Sharice and thank you everybody for listening to this. And again, just spend some time with that, spend some time with yourself this week and less time on some other things that aren't really pushing you into that space a little bit and just think about some of the conversation and build on that conversation with friends or family and share this podcast with as many people as you can.

Yeah, we appreciate the share and any comments and feedback we can get. We really appreciate everybody and being our listeners and our supporters.

Thank you. Thank you Amy.

Thank you Brian. Go and have a fabulous day.

I'm going to thank you.

Me too.

Fabulous week, year month, all of it.

Fabulous. Big fabulous ball of fabulous. Gotcha.

Lots of fabulous.

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