Brokenness shows up in ways we don't expect.

If you come from a broken family, if you come from a broken background and you feel that you're doing better than maybe your father, you want the world to see.

Hmm. Because your shame was visible.

Hmm. When you were growing up and your father and mother used to fight, your father used to beat your mom, and the neighbors used to be aware, your shame was public.

Wow.

So your recovery, you also want it to be public. That's why you see some people in their secondary school WhatsApp groups You see them just flaunting because they were the poor kid in secondary school. Now that they've made it, they want everybody to know that that poor kid is no longer that poor kid.

Hmm.

Why do you need to prove a point?

These are things that happens almost every day. This issue of success by all means, um, and also the need to just show people what we are doing. How bad is it?

So technology has compelled certain realities, capturing moments, but again, why do I need the validation of another to feel good? Like Jesus had his 3— Peter, James, John. He had the 12. He had the 70, why is it the multitude that validates you? That's my own question. So it is a real problem because if I keep measuring my life by your perception of me—

Now this is a conversation out of the box. Yes, sir.

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