In this excerpt from the Declassified Podcast, Speaker A and Speaker B engage in a critical dialogue about the nature of Western education and civilization, arguing that Western knowledge systems function as tools of colonization that appropriate and plagiarize other cultures. They highlight how symbols like the Egyptian pyramid on the U.S. dollar exemplify stolen heritage, and how Western science prioritizes synthetic, plastic-based medicines over organic ones, turning civilization into a form of environmental vandalism. The conversation then shifts to African totemic knowledge, emphasizing a custodial relationship with nature—birds, insects, trees, and soil—that is absent from Western paradigms. The speakers warn that unchecked mechanization, biotechnology, and synthetic interventions (e.g., plastic foods, artificial mosquitoes, mass sterilization, nuclear weapons) will transform humanity into a machine-dependent existence, eroding humanity itself. The excerpt concludes with a call to recognize this trajectory as destructive rather than civilizational, and a promotion of the Declassified Podcast platform.
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I wish the academic students would throw away their PhDs and do real PhDs where you come to African culture and you're not judging it, but you're learning from it. So what pains me is to see Africans who say they're educated, but their education has actually made them know everything about the other except about themselves.
Do you feel Western civilization, Western education is a tool of colonization in itself?
I can't even call it Western civilization because the West does not have a civilization. What do they have? They have plagiarized.
They They stole different civilizations.
They have a pirate invasion. They have a parasite kind of. I mean, look at the American dollar. What do you find on it? Whole Egyptian pyramid. Are you claiming that this is your civilization? Stolen civilization. Look at science, look at formulas. So, and you look at medicines, what have they discovered? Plastic medicine vis-à-vis organic medicine. And this civilization, what you call Western civilization, it's vandalism of nature. It's material extraction, creation of tools, disregarding everything else that is natural.
Femi doesn't conserve.
They don't conserve. They don't even have it in themselves. Hence our totemic knowledge of nature, birds, animals, butterflies, trees, and soil. As an African, you are a custodian of these elements, and you live with them. You live within them. You die and you go back to them. Yeah. So, and that Knowledge is absent from what you want to call a civilization. So if this concept of Western civilization is allowed to continue the way it is, then you are going to turn this whole world into concrete jungle.
True.
And then what do we remain with after that? Eating plastic foods that Bill Gates is coming up with, having artificial mosquitoes that are now in the environment, having our women sterilized, and having guns, having nuclears to exterminate life on the continent, on the planet. And you call that civilization? I think we are giving them too much credit to even call it civilization. Because with the direction that America is going right now, with the direction that China is going, the direction that Russia is going, and some of the Middle Eastern countries going, this whole mechanization, robotics, children will no longer be born from you, be born from test tubes and stuff like that. You call that civilization? I would understand these as interventions. Of irregularities within the human body, but making that the default of human existence, I think we're losing humanity into the machines. And I can't call that civilization. I can't even dignify it.
Wow.
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