On the Phone: Identity, Dealing with Not feeling God.
12 Mar 2024 · 19 min
Bonus podcast episode 'On the Phone with Frank and Guy' (recorded March 12, 2024) featuring Francisco Javier Ortega and Guy Jones. They begin with identity declarations, check in about life (work, moving, schedules), and discuss seasons of spiritual dryness—Guy shares he's not 'feeling it' and Frank offers pastoral perspective that busyness can be a form of worship. They also discuss community-building (Conquerors community, men's call) and practical stewardship as part of spiritual growth.
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Hey, what's up, man or woman of God, It's Frank Ortega. We're releasing some bonus episodes for you guys. This is going to be some bonus material. It's called on the Phone with Frank and Guy. So really I had this idea because me and Guy have really freaking good phone calls that I believe are really going to encourage you guys just to listen in on, honestly, and it's just going to let you in a little bit deeper into our lives. And so I love the podcast format, but I also believe that, man, when me and Guy talk on the phone, something really special happens every single time. And I'm not just making that up. So Guy doesn't know whenever I'm gonna hit record. I downloaded some app and I'm recording some of our phone calls, and I'm just gonna release those with you as I just really feel the Holy Spirit lead me right, and I hope that encourages you. And so, on today's episode of on the Phone with Frank and Guy, if you're really struggling with, like, feeling God, I think this is really going to encourage you. If you are looking for genuine friendships, I think this is going to encourage you. And if you really want to see what identity and moving in your identity really looks like and solidifying that and gaining clarity on it, I think this is also going to encourage you. So it's going to be a really good episode. Super spontaneous, so different than anything that's out there right now for at least from what I believe. Right. But I know it's going to bless you. So hop on in and enjoy this episode. Let us know what you think. I love the Lord, and I love people that need the Lord.
I'm just tired of being fake. And if I got to be fake and I can't be real, the Bible says, confess your sin to one another. I love you. I honor you, man. You are like your fruit of the ministry, man.
Man of God.
Hey, do I know who you are, man?
You know who I am?
You want me to tell you who I am, man? I can. I could not talk for you to you for five years. And I know who you are, but just in case I did forget, tell me who you are.
Hey, my name is Frank Ortega, and.
I'm a man of presence who walks in courage, honor, and integrity. I'm a chain breaker, a legacy maker, and a son of the living God. That's who I am.
Yes, you are. I'm in agreement with that. My name is God Jones. I'm a man of presence, compassion, honor, and generosity. I'M a son of the Creator. I am a creator sent here to bring heaven down to earth and the in the land of the living. My name is Guy Jones. Yes, you are.
Man of God.
Hey, bro.
How's your morning, bro?
Good, I'm guessing.
Well, bro, I don't have an office manager. Just not. I'm gonna talk real quick about what I don't have. I don't have an office manager, and I'm down a person, and which is no problem, except for, bro, I've gotten hit so hard with so much good work and I mean, good paying jobs that, you know, I'm just running around trying to keep everybody doing what they need to do on the job that they're on. So we're not missing any pictures or documentation. Make sure everybody. I'm bringing it out outside help from other guys that I know, specialized guys and some rebuilds and stuff. And I'm just trying to keep my head afloat as far as building and documentation and reports. I'm getting kind of behind on those. I hadn't had a day off other than Sunday. I did. I did somewhat take Sunday off, but I've been moving in that house, so, brother, I'm just, like, you know, stretched in a little bit, man.
Yeah. Playing a little bit of catch up.
It's just always catch up. And, bro, I am blessed.
Like, I.
Last night, I'm like, man, God, how do I deserve all that you've given me? Like, oh, like, man, I don't even deserve it. It's like you're giving me all my heart's desires. And I almost feel like you are too good to me. Like, you know, too good. And, you know, I just. I don't know, man. I'm just thankful because things are just so beautiful around me. And I just want to continue to be good for my customer. But I want to enjoy this life a little bit, man. And I just. I don't get a lot. A whole lot of time. Just, you know, like, I want to come to Texas and run 20 miles and kick it, man. And I may have to send Lebo by himself because I just can't see how I can just roll out in.
The situation.
That we're in right now. I just don't see how that's feasible. So I did just talk to Travis. Terrible. And he was with Steve and just FaceTime me.
Yeah, yeah. He just got a workout in with him, man. He was there for men's prayer, too. I didn't know he was in town. I told him that we might that we're trying to get him on the podcast tonight.
Yeah.
What time? I'm gonna have to be. It's gonna have to be later for me, but that's what I was trying to call you about last night. I got my wall painted last night so I got some background at my new place there. So I'll be set up, but I'm gonna be on the water. I'm gonna go take a little fishing trip this evening from 5 to 7. So I'll be on the water and it's about an hour drive, so I probably won't be good until I'd say 8:30, 9 your time.
Gotcha, bro. And are you getting up early tomorrow?
No, I'm not getting up at 4:30 now.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Then we could definitely film then, bro. Yeah, I'll talk to Travis.
I'm just. Man, you gave me a great prayer the other night, man, and it touched me. And bro, I just have not been feeling it lately, man.
I just.
When I say not been feeling it, I'm not walking my best walk, man. And it's because I'm letting you know all these things pulling at me, pull at me. And I'm not getting a lot of try. I'm trying to get unadulterated time in the Word and, and with worship music. But I get like this morning I listen to worship music and it didn't feel. I didn't do anything for my soul, man. And it's like, I think it's because. Just a dry time for me because what I put in my life just.
Honestly, brother, I think it's just, you know, the number one way that the enemy can get us to really detach or to, you know, pull away is just by throwing a bunch of stuff at us like you're dealing with right now, right? And it's all good stuff, but it's still stuff that you got to handle. And of course he's going to put this lie in your head of like, hey, you're in a dry season. You're not in the dry season, bro. It's just raining in a different area. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, like for example, Texas, bro. Like it could be raining in Dallas, but it's not raining in McKinney. It doesn't mean that Texas is dry. It just means there's an another area that's receiving rain right now. So maybe your worship right now is as you're stewarding and problem solving all the crap that's coming up the good stuff, good problems, right? Like, as your problem solving all of that, maybe that's your place of worship. Because as soon as I pick up the phone and call you, what's the first thing you start talking about, man? Bro, Like, God has just been so good to me lately, bro. And I'm just like, man, maybe you've been too good to me. Right? It's. And so, bro, as your boy, don't make it try and be a certain way. Like, I don't want the goose to feel like she's got to hang out with me in a certain way to, like, connect with me. Like, last night, we connected through Super Smash Brothers. I mean, I murdered her over and over again. She had no chance, you know what I'm saying? But if she's like, no, it has to look like this with my dad for us to connect, bro. That's just not fair, you know what I'm saying?
And so don't let, like, that come.
Into your head right now in such a season of experiencing God's goodness in the land of the living to where, like, maybe that's where you're worshiping him right now by testifying of his goodness. You know what I'm saying?
Right? Yeah. That's what I need to do, is just testify to the whole world about how good God to me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's what I need to do. And not just in material things, but in relationships and. And definitely a material thing, but in relationships and, you know, man, there's something special that he's built for me, you know, as far as community, that's tremendous, bro. And he's just been. The spirit's been talking to me so heavy lately and just leading me, and I know the right people are coming. That's going to take the weight off me. I'm trying to get Jim Sebellico down here to Florida for a week or.
Two coming up to start working on those systems and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what's up, bro. I mean, it's. It's. It's gonna start working out, man, is growing pains, which is good. It's like, really, really good. Because now it's almost like God's forcing you to create the systems that you need to create so that you can do kingdom work without with experiencing zero frustration. You know, I'm saying, like, so that you can be in Texas. You can be fully in Texas. And you know that Florida and Atlanta is fully taken care of, too. And so you got, like, peace because imagine. Imagine. Imagine how much power you would operate knowing, like, oh, I'm covered on all areas right now, because we put the right systems in place, right? You know what I mean? So it's almost like that's just forcing you to do that now because he wants more for you.
Right, man?
That's.
That's good, man. That's why I call you man. You always have a word for. For me, unselfishly.
Hey, and one of your gifts came in yesterday, too, bruh.
How can I serve you, man of God? How can I serve you? What's the best way I can serve you, bro?
You already served me the best way you could serve me, man, with words of affirmation, bro.
Purity. Let me ask you that, huh? How have you been doing on your purity, bro?
Actually been doing really good, man.
Good, bro.
Yeah? Yeah.
Huh? Have you gone on any dates?
No. No, I. I haven't.
Remember how I told you that I.
Was going to stop putting in that much effort of like, seeking it out type of deal, right? And how your mom said that, you know, she was going to be drawn into my spirit? So right now I'm just trying to. First of all, bro, I feel like I just got to dial in the Conquerors community and start getting, you know, people coming in to really experience next level breakthrough automatically. And so I got to figure out what I need to get my boy David, who's going to help me start running some ads and really dialing those things in. He wants to do something really cool, which is targeting cities. So imagine if I'm targeting, like, all of Dallas, and then I got a bunch of people that are divorced in Dallas joining the Conquerors community. And then I can be like, hey, everyone, launching a group inside of my church. You can come and attend in person, right? And then I can strategically target the cities where some of my, like, heavy hitters, like Kevin Kyle, the dude who was on our podcast, right? I could target Philadelphia. Anyone who's going through a divorce in Philadelphia with a. With an ad, get them into the Conquerors community. And then I could be like a, yo, Kevin, you want to run a live group? In person group? And then I could just target city by city. Wouldn't that be awesome, bro?
That would be awesome. I'm trying to put a community together for when you and Steve come down here for like, Thursday night to where we can just blow it out. And that community may look like my guys brother.
Just bring them over to your crib, man.
That's what I'm saying is Smoke them down.
Oh, yeah. Oh, a hundred percent, bro. One hundred percent. I've been leaning out, bro. I've been. I've been getting my miles in along with lifting, and I've been cleaning up my eating a little bit, and I'm just. I'm. Bro, this year I'm gonna have abs this year.
Yes, you. Yes, you are, man.
I've been.
I've been leaning out too. Just like. Just really conscious of health. And like last week I was intermittent fasting. This week I'm eating breakfast. But high protein, low carbs all week. And then, man, moving has been so much. Every day I've been working on something. That place is so. Not every corner of that place is going to be anointed behind the shed. I mean, there's not going to be a part of that yard that's not anointed, and that is not important. You know, it doesn't. When you come out, you're gonna get hit.
You know how, like, I was thinking.
About this when you said the back of the shed even. You know how, like, when we were young and you go to, like a high school party, if there was a high school party at that house that you're in right now, bro, that back of the shed was going to be used for hookup central.
But now.
Yeah, exactly. But now I feel like that whole area is going to be hookup central. But instead of hookup central, it's going to be like praying central, bro. Like, there's going to be men praying for each other in the back, like behind the shed, by the volleyball courts, inside of the pool on the side of the house. Like, there's going to be people praying for each other all over that place, man. Going to be prayer central.
Prayer central. And then when I get a wife, I'm gonna take her behind the shed and it's going to be prayer central.
Hey, amen, bro.
Amen. He's gonna get the smoke behind the shed, bro.
Oh, you gonna smoke her down.
Man of God, dude, I'm gonna down.
Holy and horny style. Yes, sir.
Bro. Dude, yesterday I did a. I did a men's call. I'm about to hop off because I gotta hop on this call with Pierce and Carlos at 10 o'. Clock. But I did this men's call yesterday.
Bro.
And it was inside the Conquerors community. And, bro, I was talking about what I texted you and Travis Terrebone about. About how we need to be like Jesus and look for a wife. That's like the church, right? Yeah. And, bro, it was so flipping powerful, man. One of the. On there. One of the dudes on there was like, man, this is not what I was expecting. He was expecting, like, a normal men's call. And one thing he said. He said, I see you guys talking, and you are talking about God and having purpose. He's like. And all you guys are smiling. He's like, so I believe you guys. Like, I believe that you're actually experiencing what you're experiencing. And, you know, he was just really, really turned on to, like, the gospel. Right? And so I'm gonna be leading him to Jesus this week, bro. That's.
That message has been maturing in you, hadn't it, bro?
It really has, man. I feel like it's for a reason, too. I feel like it's because my wife is right around the corner.
Yeah, that thing's been germinating. Doing some germinating. And. And I'm telling you, spring's coming, bro, and it's. It's gonna flip. Spring is about to flip the script. I just feel like this spring, everything's gonna break. We're gonna have a. Why am I missing so many dagum fans?
That's right.
Okay.
Okay.
We're gonna have some serious breakthrough this spring. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Seeds that we've been planting. All this really work we put in, because we've been putting in some. Whether you get paid for it or not, Frank, dude, the work you put in and the effort that you put in and the energy that you put in, it always comes back around, bro. When it does finally come back around and it explodes. And that's what I'm experiencing right now is years and years of just faithfulness and.
And taking.
Be a good steward. My prison jobs and being a good steward of people and my intentions being right. And now it's like everything I'm touching just explodes. And the same thing for you. Everything you touch explodes.
And.
And it's like, what do you do with that? When he gives you everything you want, do you keep. You keep blessing people, do you? Or do you lose yourself in all the things and enjoy them for your own self? It's kind of. You know, he tests the heart, man. And it's constantly nice to have all these things, but it's. It's your heart, right?
I don't know.
Just stuff that I'm thinking about right now.
No, bro, I 100 agree, and I receive that, man. Hey, bro, this meeting just started, so I love you, and we'll connect later, and let's film tonight, okay?
All right. Brother. Sounds good.
All right. Love you, bro.
Love you too, man.
I love the Lord, and I love people that need the Lord.
I'm just tired of being fake. And if I gotta be fake and I can't be real, the Bible says, confess your sin to one another. I love you. I honor you, man. You were like your fruit of the ministry, man.