Getting Nerdy on a Saturday with AI #ai

Sa.

Good morning and happy Saturday. LinkedIn, friends, value, First Nation. Welcome to a fun episode of Tech Stack, Reimagined here with Nico and got special guest George V. Thomas joining us today. We couldn't get enough yesterday after the Friday morning show. 30 minutes was certainly not enough to talk about all things Google. So here we are. How you fellas doing? Pretty good Friday.

Doing good. Doing great. Especially, especially today. Very excited about today and yeah, doing good.

Yeah, I'm doing good. Friday was great. It's good to be in the weekend. I am optimistically worried about where my brain will be after the next hour. And so I tried to get as much done as I could this morning before the show in the understanding of, like, I feel like I'm gonna want to play the rest of the day once I know, hopefully the things that I think are gonna unlock in my brain. So happy but nervous. I don't know.

I'm nervous. Nervous energy is. Is same as excited energy. So, yes, all good. And so on that note, one of our goals today is to help George understand how to go from basically prompt to publish on a website domain that, that he owns. But also, and I think this applies to most in our audience, for me, why and why I do most of the content is that I want to make it really impossible for anybody to use this. Use the excuse. I didn't know. Yeah, right. Because that, I think definitely in our ecosystem right now, that's the number one reason for people not getting more out of the stuff they're paying for is that they just don't know. And I get it. Everything's moving so fast. And once you know, I know you'll find a bunch of other excuses not to move forward, but you won't be able to use that one as our goal. And with AI, like, once you see some of this stuff, most of the other excuses you think you might have, they're just gonna go away. When you see us do it one time and then when you do it one time. So it's going to be a fun ride. Now, right before we went live, Nico, George mentioned that he wants to be a learner today.

Yeah.

So a learner comes up and says, hey, man, I heard Gemini 3 just dropped. Where do you, where do you even start?

It's, you know, you just, you start with Gemini, right? You just, you start right out the gate with the regular, good old Gemini interface. And I think it's really getting used to. I mean, I wouldn't even say getting used to. I think that's the best Part about it is there's no. It feels like you're finally talking to something that is a digital intelligence that feels like a natural extension. Feels like. Feels naturally like you're working with another person. Both in response, in. In what you're getting. The conversation, the writing, pretty much everything about it. The coding is insane. But, you know, that's, that's neither here nor there. Video generation is still pretty good, depending on what you ask for. And of course there's more nuance to it then you'll see from like Sora and other generators. But yeah, I think it's. It starts with just using it really, like stepping out of your comfort zone. Because I know even, Even yourself, Chris. Like, yeah, I know you're a huge cloud proponent and it's. It's gotta feel weird at first, right? That, like, oh man, I'm using this thing that. I don't know, it's like, it is, it's. It does, you know, it's got something to it. There's this genesis quoi that I can't. Just can't figure it out. What I don't know. And that's. Yeah, that's. To me, that's why being agnostic is like, it's a, It's a huge advantage because I'm telling you, if you're on GPT, moving to this really, like, especially if you're that type of person, that's like, yeah, well, I use GPT because, you know, you know the way it talks to me, blah, blah. Okay, we'll try Gemini now and then tell me that. The way that. Tell me that the conversations you're having with GPT are anything like the conversations that you'll have with Gemini.

So it's interesting, Nico, to hear you say that, and I know I'm being a learner today, but I also have thoughts. There's a video in my queue because I probably downloaded on my phone last night. I'm not even bullshitting. Like, 20 videos to watch at a later date. And one that really caught my eye was Gemini or Google figured out rag. And I want to watch what they're talking about there because my brain goes to that. Like, my Google Drive is my rag. And if that's the case, then, like, there's just fundamentally things that I think I want to do or act or implement differently inside of what has just always been like, oh, let me throw that there so it's not on my desktop. Anyway, I'll pause. You know what I mean? I think that's why what you're saying is like, I want to see if I can connect those dots to what you're saying and what that video alluded to, what I think is happening based on me going in and just starting to kind of use it or talk to Gemini 3.

Yeah. And just a couple quick clarifications on that note. Right? Like, I wanted to share and I'm gonna let Nico drive after this, but this, this like, card that comes up, right. Unlock next gen AI with Google AI Ultra for business. I do not have AI Ultra for business. And I'm gonna be able to use all of the stuff that we're talking about today. My $25 Google Workspace account allows me to use all of the things because.

Ultra is like 300 bucks a month, I think.

Right.

I think it's like 299 or something like that.

Now, through the course of my journey in Anti Gravity or yeah, anti Gravity, I've run into some limits. This is how I would get rid of those limits. But I don't need to worry about that right now. So a lot of the tools. So don't let this scare you or misinform, like, oh, I'm not going to be able to use this stuff unless I get paid 300 bucks a month. Not the case to George's point. Similar to what happened with Breeze and HubSpot at Inbound. Like, all of a sudden, Breeze became this layer of HubSpot instead of all these separate tools that weren't seeing each other and talking to each other. Gemini 3.0 is now integrated with the rest of the Google stack. Right. And that is a huge deal. And you should expect, if you just know that you should expect a better, more contextual experience when you jump in. So just wanted to make that abundantly clear. If you have a work google email gemini.google.com and that's how you get started.

Yeah. And I mean the, the changes to things just in terms of what you're used to with Gemini already. Like, I know that you're used to some stuff when it comes to, like, I don't know, seeing like doing research and having Gemini do some research for you and looking things up or, you know, obviously doing coding for you. And what's crazy about the coding aspect of it is the fact that it will, like, not only go and finish the front end for you, but the fact that, like, it'll write for, I don't know, thousands. It'll write thousands of lines of code, like whatever it takes in order to get what it is that you need.

I knew it was only a matter of time before I would get this question. Oh, will you turn Hub Helper Harry into a gem?

You know, it's kind of funny that you ask that.

Oh, watch out.

You know when, when Google allows us to share gems, believe me. Oh wow. Whoa, wait, what?

Yeah, you can share gems?

Oh, this is new.

So, so now imagine. So. So. Well here's the thing though. Now imagine this world. So imagine, imagine this world where you have a HubSpot landing page and somebody pays you a one time fee of XYZ and now you give them access to a gem that you've created that only they get because they give you like a one time fee or a monthly whatever. Like Google is literally unlocking commerce by the ability to share the creativity of the thing that you might have in your rag drive and the ability to build instructions like. So I'm gonna let the cat out the bag of why I'm excited about today. And it has nothing to do with HubSpot by the way, even though I love HubSpot and I do a lot of stuff around HubSpot but I'm sitting here going after today will I be able to actually build this magical leadership app that I've been contemplating on of like the superhuman leadership like super, you know, like this, this thing, web app, iPhone app, whatever. And, and what what happens from like a conversate with said app based on like in a gem is conversation based on information. Anyway, I'll shut up. I'm here to learn.

The best way to learn George is to do. Yeah, yeah.

And I think that the whatever skills you currently have, like I mean I legitimately I did not know about being able to share gems. I've been waiting for that for some time now. So that's going to drop right after the show. I'm just going to tweak a couple things in there that need to be tweaked for public use and then out it goes.

Yeah and that was really interesting. Like as you went to do that. That's why as we move across models like they all do it a little bit differently. When you went to share was like oh well then these people need all this access like related to the gem which has been a thing in the other projects or custom GPTs or anything. Right. But it makes sense and that's where when you can granularly manage to George's point. I mean this changes how you should think about what's what you can, how you can serve customers and what kind of experiences you can Create. And I think that's going to be an underlying theme of today's show. Because all of these things, like, if you're still making the gated PDFs and ebooks and shit, like, what? No.

What's the point?

Like, just. No.

Like, and just because of this, like, I'm not gonna lie, Harry on GPT has been really good up to now. Really good. Not. Not the caliber that I would like. And I have put work into this dude and serious amounts of time into the data and all that kind of stuff. When I use gems, I just don't have to worry about it because it's like, George, like, if you don't know yet, it's like using notebook only now. It's like open to everything. Right. And it's like specified your stuff. But I, you know, to me it's like they. They are one in the same. Like in that. Oh, and I. I don't know if, if you guys. So I'm. I'm gonna. I'm just gonna take one step over to the. To the Google suite stuff. But before I do that, real quick, you know, me and Gemini, we've got. We've gotten closer over the last few months. So let's see. The man in the business, George is wildly known as a HubSpot helper and educator. Sidekick strategies. The podcast the Hub Heroes Helping humans.

Now I'm curious, George, do you have it anywhere that says my marketing ethos is helping humans?

No.

That's not something you would say, right?

That is not something I have put in print online. No.

Right. So this is Gemini's like, interpretation of George's brand.

Yes.

And I'm pretty sure it's on the money, right, George?

Oh, yeah, it's. It's on the money. But. But like, look, dude, the fact that it's like be the blessing, authenticity over algorithms, like simplifying the complex. Like, homeboy is knocking it out the park of like, if. If I could tell somebody in a synopsis all about like, look, teaching you to fish the superhuman frame. Loop marketing. By the way, I've only started to talk about loop marketing like four weeks ago, six weeks ago. Like, yeah, come on.

Yeah. There's so much like, that's the thing. We constantly talk about it, like, get out of your quarterly annual schedules. There's so much opportunity here. But you have to start creating valuable content in different ways. Yeah. Usually don't align with what. What campaign are we shipping this quarter.

Yeah.

Right, Right. So another thing, if, obviously if you've got Chrome, you've seen the little Gemini guy up here.

Yeah.

Also, if you. I don't know, because I don't have it on some profiles, but I do on others, so I don't know how that works necessarily. But I do know that if you have a paid version of Google Pro, you can now right click on your tabs and you can do a nice little split view now. And it is, like, super, super. Like, I. They figured it out, like, the ratio. I didn't. I thought it was going to be real stupid, like, split screen view. Somehow it just works. It's really nice.

What'd you do? You did right click. And then.

So right click on the tab that you want to split the view with.

Yeah.

And you should see at the top, split view. And then afterwards, you'll actually see how you can arrange it. And then in between, you can obviously split the ratio of what you want to see one side to another.

My weekend's already wrecked because it's not in my tab, but I need to go figure out how I add it to my tab. Okay.

But I love that.

Yeah.

So I'm gonna. I'm gonna leave both of these up at the same time for good reason. We're gonna go to this AI News notebook and just go ahead and ignore that. You know how all that works. Anyway, then I want to. On this side, I'm gonna say, what was it that you wanted to build? You wanted to build an app to do what?

So let's just call it, like, the Superhuman Framework for Leaders app.

Okay. Hey, Gemini. So my buddy George is looking to see, you know, what it's all about with you and auto coding and, you know, how fancy you are with it and what you can actually do. And so he wants to build out an application that's going to be superhuman leaders. Right. For HubSpot admins. And I don't really know what he's got in mind. I'm sure that you don't necessarily know, and he hasn't said anything yet, but you think you can throw something together that would just blow his mind in terms of. Wow. I would never think that Gemini could build this out for me.

Now, what I love about that was it was totally, like, conversational. And. And you threw so many pieces together in there, which I'm like, well, actually, I never thought about leaning it towards super admins, but let's see what happens, because we can. And they are leaders in their organization and. Or should be leaders in their organization. So. Okay, I'm. I'm interested.

So something new That I saw in Notebook, that I'm not sure if you guys have seen it, if you have. And then I guess I'm a little behind the times, guys. I've been busy for, like, two and a half weeks building just a monstrous toolkit. So it's been a minute since I've actually had hands on stuff, but now that I have, it's pretty nuts. So I was going through Notebook, and, you know, I was like, man, it's really cool, but it just sucks that I have to, like, go from Gemini to, you know, doing the deep research, and then I got to put that as a doc, and then I got to drag it over to the notebook. Yeah, not anymore.

Yeah, now I can do days ago, and I started, like, drooling.

I'm like, fast web and deep. And then naturally, as soon as it pulls it up, you just straight up add it to your notebook, and now it just becomes yet another source. So. And you can, obviously, you can only launch one at a time. So that is a bit of a, you know, pay in the ass limitation, but, you know, well worth it. All good things to those who wait. Right? So let's see. Separate these out again and. Oh, wow, look at that. It's already done. Oh.

Oh. Do you see? Happy, helpful, humble. Oh, my gosh, look at this.

It's a chat bot to Ask George.

Oh, my gosh.

So we've got. Let's see. Let's take a look at this thing.

What is the panic button?

Do you.

I know, right? Like, what is happening right now? All right, so superhuman hq, sidekick strategy, command center, level two admin.

It's.

We got XP points. It's gamifying it immediately.

Mm.

You may not be able to see it on your end, but there is, like a very light sort of orange crisscross pattern on the background.

Yeah, I can barely see it back there. But yes. Portal, healthy. The human check in. What? Yeah, the panic button.

What?

Stop, breathe. Reboot. Listen to me, Portal. You are a human being worthy of love and rest. The database will be there tomorrow. Go take a walk. Hug your family. Or just.

Oh, my Lord.

Now do you guys believe me? Now do you guys believe me?

Be the blessing, not the burnout. I'm ready to flourish. Hit the ready I'm ready to flourish button.

Somebody tell me. Go. Somebody go ahead and try to tell me that the post that I made is BS now.

Well, first of all, too, can I just go back to like. For me, it's the subtle things. The fact that that was like a slow, slow I'll call it a bounce.

Yep.

But, like.

But nice and calming.

Well, right. So, like, if you think about. It's. It's breathing. It's literally like. Like, that's what it's doing here in a moment where you're saying, take a breath, like, all right, let's keep looking at this. Let's keep looking at this.

And by the way, this would be the exact response from one George B. Thomas if you said, George. I'm panicking.

Wait, what?

This. This is. He's saying. This is exactly what you would probably say. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, Without a doubt. I'm like, bro, relax. It'll be okay.

And so this is my Gemini.

Yeah.

How well could my Gemini possibly know you?

I mean, obviously, one search, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. So when we're ready to flourish, Internet the rag.

I mean, at this point. Right. That's kind of what they figured out is like, hey, how about we just do that for them?

Yeah.

And then they don't have to worry about it.

So. So the human check in mind, focus and clarity, body energy levels, spirit patch. So you can literally, like, move that around. What's. Oh, missing log audit, unengaged contacts deal. So it's bringing in some HubSpot stuff, some actual, like, leadership stuff, some human stuff, virtual, like your task log from.

HubSpot, but brought in in such a way that it follows your framework in.

Terms of, like, superhuman hq.

Dude, if I. If I literally back this up, and we had not said anything about HubSpot, and we just said, like, look at that new framework.

Look at that card. George.

The day. The daily 1%, 1% better, each and every day. Can we go back up, though? The fact that there's already, like, a virtual George, like, hey, buddy, I'm your virtual. I have that guy, by the way. But now it could literally be, like, in the app. Because I could use API to, like, call it in. I couldn't. I have no idea how to do a freaking.

You're about to. That's why we're here today.

We should do it today. Yeah. Right.

Anyway, so then the 1% better card. Anything after that? Like, what. What else do we got going on here?

Just.

Oh, Superhuman Academy.

What's this? Oh, it tried. It tried really hard.

It tried so hard for that Again, we're throwing, like, almost three different concepts at it, by the way that we prompted it.

And definitely no shade that you got confused by what the help loop. Marketing means.

All humans. Humans are confused about it. Gemini, we forgive you. All right, I'll shut up. Again, learn mode.

Built by sidekick strategy.

Come on.

Powered by passion, purpose, and persistence.

Yeah, it should be built with love, you know? Built with love.

Yeah, almost. Almost. But here's better. Do better. Gemini.

I could go in and this is where, like. Because this is almost one shot, though, but where my brain is, I could be like, please change this, please change this, please change this. And all of a sudden, with, like, a second prompt, like, all of this little nitpicky that we're mentioning goes away.

And I love how it, like, already, you know, I mean, like, figures out, obviously, you know, builds that. That mobile experience for you too, in such a natural way that, like, yeah, this is what I would want. Right?

Yeah.

So let's see.

Oh, man.

Hey, man, this is pretty baller. But you know what? The. That's where I like my voice command better than most everybody else's. But I don't, you know, want people to be able to see. Hey, man, this is actually really baller. But you know what? What I'm noticing is that especially on mobile, when I'm going up and down on the screen, I'm losing the ability to go back to different places. So it would be so awesome if you could build me, like, a floating menu that just stays with me, like, right on the middle section so that I can just navigate up and down no matter what. Right. Like, it's just a little up and down switch. Something like that. And, yeah, I mean, everything is looking good, but, you know, we need a profile section. And then I like the learning more thing. Can you actually expand that out and give us, like, another page that has more filled in there with, like, some lessons, you know, lessons from George or what have you, and, like, pull some content from his site and just build something out there, make it really robust. And then on top of that, I love the panic button thing. That's so awesome. Can we build something else like that somewhere else in the ui? I don't even care where else, but I just. I like that effect. Let's. Let's play on that. And I don't know, last but not least, surprise me, you know, I mean, do some magic. Work some AI in there. Whatever you feel. Yeah. Dealer's choice. Have at it.

So, Chris, you have my address, right? My home address?

Yes.

Yeah. If I pass out at any point in time during this, this live, can you please call 91 1? Because my family is not here right now, and I'm. I'm listening to the Nico talk, and I'm having, like, oh, God. Moments here where Like, I'm. I. I need to hit the panic button. I need to breathe for a minute.

I'm just.

Oh, I can't wait to see what this does. Like.

Oh.

So what's. What I find awesome is that it actually, like, tells you what it's going to be doing, like, prior to. So, like, it's working on it right now. It's crushing it out.

Yeah. And that's one of the things with anti gravity.

Like, we're not in anti gravity right now. You're literally just doing this in, like, Gemini.

Right.

Previewing it. And so, so we're. We really haven't taken it anywhere. We're just playing air quotes, playing right now to get to something that we like, and then we'll see next steps later. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. And, like, there's options like Agent led, where you can just turn on turbo. It never has to ask you for permission. There's the need to check every time. Then there's in between. There's lots of in betweens now where you just say the agent will decide. Right. And if it's a quick task, that's been obvious in the chat, it will not tell you what it's about to do, but if it's a change to the plan or it's adding complexity, it will tell you what's it. What it's about to do. And the way that it's choosing. It always feels right when it makes that choice.

Oh, I can't wait to hit that.

Right. Hype me up, hype me up button. The Oracle of Orange.

Oh, snap. I added a mystical Oracle widget. Click the glowing orb.

Let's check this.

Okay.

Is it the same URL?

This is why I don't create show plans, by the way. I went. I went with Google. I went to Gemini. I was like, hey, Ram, we're gonna do. We're gonna do a show today, unboxing the features. Which features George's.

Oh, the Oracle of Orange. Let's start there.

Actually.

Let's start there. So, like, if you click that.

Consulting, purpose, passion, persistence.

Which one needs attention.

Ooh.

So if you just hit it, it basically pulls up. And so is it giving us the little AI Focus on being. So it's just. No, it's like an AI piece, basically.

Right. It's an AI feature.

I think it described it as like, it will give you georgisms.

Yeah. George consulting the hubs. You are a sidekick. Your customer is the hero.

Yeah.

Okay, so let's go back up top. Oh, my God. This is. This is insane. Okay, so we still got that. We got Academy Super. The Superhuman framework, right? Oh, it got it right. Nice. Oh, oh. Interesting that it did HubSpot hygiene, considering something that happened, like, a couple years ago. Wait, is that. Is that real?

I mean, it doesn't actually go to it, but I'm very. I could ask it.

I want to know. Hang on, hang on now. Now I'm curious, because I don't remember. That was, like, two years ago. Oh, this is.

This is awesome. I didn't even think about this. Up here, bro. Now that you put that Hub Heroes Poscat podcast thing in there, that just, like, really got my mind blown open. So I've got tons of YouTube videos out there. I was wondering if you could go to George's YouTube page, where it's the Hub Heroes podcast on YouTube, and pull some of those episodes in. Like, go grab all the latest episodes and build out, like, a video player where people can watch the latest episodes and then have, like, a whole, I don't know, like, library, basically, like video library where people can go to it, and then they just click on it and, you know, have it embedded so that it just plays, like, straight in the page so they don't have to actually go to YouTube and stuff. That would be so amazing. I. Man, I would love that. And then George has these pillars, too. Can you work that in. In some way? Like, in an interactive way? Like, maybe it's a game that people play. So it's like the pillars game, right, that people play with that. So, like, yeah, Superhuman Pillars game. Let's go with that.

I gotta remember to not talk when you're talking, because I jack it up every time I do. But when you started to go in that direction, here's the thing. What I love is I would. I would. Once it hooked up, it would have the right episodes, and I would love that. Like, that whole. Play it right there.

This is your.

Oh, that's not. Oh, look at the hype me up button at the top, right?

I just shoot some confetti.

Oh, my God. Where's. Where's my little horn? I need to, like, Right.

Oh, man, I should have told it. Can you build?

What.

What's the air horn?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. We need some air horn as that does that. Oh, my gosh.

Learning center. Let's see what goes along.

This is crazy. So what's interesting is. Okay, I'm gonna shut up.

I wish I could tell it, like. Well, I will tell it to, like, actually build out the content, too. So here's what's nuts is that like whenever you want to, like this is how I, this is how we like I. A lot of like most of us go about like building stuff out. Is Gemini is your react front end, right. So like it can build out the front end to this application all day long. And like how detailed can it get? Before Gemini 3, I made a front end application that was almost like it almost fully functioned. I didn't have to do much on the back end and it was just over 3,000 lines of code in Gemini. So you can get really, really, really far with whatever you are trying to do for an app for front end before you actually have to pass it off. And so what I really look at this as is like essentially you are starting out working with a, you know, junior front end developer and you're working with them like somewhere between junior and, and you know, whatever normal level. I'm not sure how they go with that developer. And you're building out your front end, right. And you're working on, hey, here's, here's how I want it to look, here's what I want it to do. Now this already. And of course, when you're working with Google stuff, that's the way it's going to be. If you're working, working with Anthropic, if you're working with OpenAI, they're going to prefer their models. They're going to, you know, put their API keys and their connections and stuff in. You know, again, it's worth it to me to just like do a paid membership to this stuff just even for a month so that you can see like, okay, this is what I could possibly do if I had a membership to this stuff. Right?

Hub heroes, latest HubSpot loot marketing. Oh my God. But I mean, so what like for right now.

Like a couple prompts away from fixing that and having.

Yeah.

You know, who could fix it?

Right? Yeah. Let me call up, let me call up my dev and see if I can get some time in the next couple weeks. We can have that discovery session, you know, document everything out and then maybe in three months we can, we can have some YouTube videos playing. Right? That's how it works.

Wait, we've got a, we've got a Cornerstone challenge game. So here's here, here's a.

Turn the Cornerstone into it looks like Simon says.

Yeah, exactly. So here's, here's my question because I'm just, I'm again, I'm the learner on this episode. Nico, if I get. Oh my God. If I, if I gave you. Sorry, I did something over on my computer that I just looked at and I about pooped myself. So if I gave you. Because remember how I told you I had a whole conversation, had everything ready to launch. I just had not given it the prompt to actually be able to preview it. Like you just showed me like preview previewing anyway, if I, if I give you, or if, if I had, if I was somebody doing this and I had like my color palette, I could literally give it my color palette and then it would take that into account. When it's like building these things that we're building, it's just, it's pulling orange because basically HubSpot and orange right now. Yes.

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Let's see. Start the challenge. I must have hit it. Okay.

Oh my God, guys.

But that's the thing is like to play a game is just react. You don't, you don't need much, you don't need like a whole back end in order to do it. So you, again, you can build out a lot before you actually end up having to, before you end up having to switch and go to build out any sort of like database or anything like that.

So let me ask you a question.

We have Watch, Play and Learn and Profile. So it's automatically building out these sections for us as it goes along. I didn't have to tell it, hey, expand the menu.

Yeah. So let me ask you a question. Like, if I go to my share, like you did share and then all of a sudden you had a link that it could go to. I only see copy contents on the thing that I'm looking at right now. Like, why, why wouldn't I see like a actual.

Like, are you looking at the code or are you looking at the preview?

The preview.

Huh.

That'S interesting to me there.

Yeah.

I've got code, I've got preview, and then I hit share and it literally says copy contents versus like me being able to get to an actual link and preview it. I wonder if it's just.

Oh, it might be that it, it's possible. It might be that it didn't build a react application, that it might have just built like something. Yeah, like something I don't know that.

It could run into.

Yeah.

So you said react. What?

So like react is a type of coding language that allows you to write pretty much any sort of front end styling and effects and animations. Like this entire thing. Yeah, react. Right. So as opposed to python, which you would use to make like actual like hardware based application. You could use it for web apps too, but it's hardcore. Like it's hardcore. If you're using it for web apps or just your preference, I don't care.

Yeah, okay, gotcha.

I'm not that much of a developer, so you're. You really. You're asking somebody who doesn't. The words are coming out, but I can't. It's kind of like GPT. I could be hallucinating right now. Right?

There you go. Well, I'm hallucinating because I literally just got stupid said, hey, please build this as a react app so I can share a link and we'll see what it does. It's building right now by the way, so we'll see.

Yeah, yeah. And it takes like how much time right, for it to like make the updates and make the changes and whatnot. Right. By the way, I'm working on finally and it's actually like very close to being done for a while. I've been working on like a really cheap app for people to use to figure out how to just like divide everything, divide up bills, divide up whatever. And one of the number one complaints among on online is people who share living spaces but they don't know how to split up the rent. And so this actually allows you to do it by like equal if you want to actually tier each room. If you want to do it by square footage or wow. Your own way of doing it and then common area multiplier and guest cost calculators. The like. Because it's, you know, maybe it's one of you has a girlfriend that is not necessarily living but kinda so like maybe they should pay more. Anyway, so there's that she eats the.

Food, she drinks the beer. But coffee. Yeah. So. So I guess it's interesting because you went to GitHub so like talk me through.

We.

We build this thing that we've been building.

Yes.

And we've got it where we can preview it. Like how does. How does a human take it from like okay, now it's this and I want to take it live so somebody can actually like interact with it online.

Right. So we're going to do. I wish I could say that it's two steps. It is in my head, it's not in reality. So you have to sign up for a GitHub account. GitHub is Crystal explain to you. It is definitely not the easiest platform to learn. It is fairly confusing sometimes. But the. I don't look devs. I'm sorry, you got the sorry ahead of time. I'M sorry, I'm about to do something to your platform you probably really, really hate. I don't know, maybe some of you use it this way that'll make me feel better. But probably most of you gonna hate what I'm gonna say next. It's my code based Google Drive.

Oh.

So I probably don't use it the way you are supposed to be using it. I also don't care. I just need to access my, my code and be able to, you know, up and download it or push and pull as it were, wherever I'm at. So that's pretty much what I think of GitHub as is like, okay, it's the code version of Google Drive, which it very much makes sense. I just think that, yeah, it very much makes sense. After a while of using it, you start to understand like, okay, I get why this is the purpose. And not only that, but I would say two to three months from now you're just, you're really, you're going to be coming back with like, guys, look at this, look at this thing that I, I figured out and get up, took this repo and was able to clone it and do this thing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

So George, you make a repo.

Yes.

And then you let the other tools connect to GitHub so that you never have to mess with GitHubs.

Yep. Yeah, basically. Yeah. So we're going to call this super Human hq. And now there's a lot of stuff on. Just ignore it. Just ignore it. There's a lot of stuff. Don't worry about it. That's what I'm saying. That's what I mean. Developers, I know there's a lot of stuff. I know Readme Files and licensing and Apache. I get it. We're not trying to do that today. We just want to get the shit up there and said, sorry, yeah, I've.

Been seeing Anti Gravity do all that stuff. It's awesome. It's going to keep doing that stuff and I appreciate it, but I don't know what it's doing.

So we have your repo right now. We're going to take your code and we're going to come to the repo and we're going to create a new.

File.

In this file, we're going to paste your code and we're going to name this app. I'm not even going to. I get it, I get it. Chill out, chill out. Just gonna label it App Rough Design. I guess I'm gonna call it a. What do they call it yes, tsx.

Yeah, I've never done any of this stuff before. This is if you're not using the auto coding agents.

I mean, we're going to in a second. This is just a super fast way of going From Gemini to GitHub.

Yeah.

As opposed to like downloading shit and then uploading, like just, just do this. Yeah. So gonna label it as initial commit. That's. I don't care. So we have our app Rough Design that's in our. Our code base. That is pretty much the last time we'll have to touch GitHub, I'm pretty sure. Okay, so now you could pick whatever you want to.

Today.

Did we want to go with Anti Gravity or do we want to do.

Let's go Anti Gravity if we can.

Okay.

Google Today, literally the thing was like, we're going to talk all about Google, Gemini and Google.

I know, I know.

Yeah, it's just been super fun.

Right?

Okay, so we've got Google Anti Gravity and what we're going to do here is we're going to clone this repository that we just made.

Okay.

So we're going to go to GitHub, we're going to pull Superhuman HQ and we're going to put it in our programming folder. We're going to open that window and so we've got our app Rough design TSX there. Now by default, I'm not even going to bother messing with anything else. You've already got Gemini 3 Pro High.

Yep.

So this isn't just Gemini 3 Pro, right? It's Gemini 3 Pro High. Like we're already jacked up. And oh by the way, Quad Sonnet for free as well, because who's partnered with Google? Anthropic. So what does Google get to say? Gimme.

Yeah, yeah.

And of course GPT open source.

Right?

Okay, so Google 3 Pro High once again, just going to. So we have the planning mode and then we've got fast mode. We're going to go with planning mode first. And because there's no dictation here, I have to use my own, so. Oh, wells. But anyhow, hey bud, can you do me a favor? Take a look at the app file that I've got in the repo here and familiarize yourself with it and then come back. And what I'm looking for is I want to actually build this out into a full REACT application that we can develop locally here so that I can like mess around with it, check out the features and I don't know, the two of us can go nuts Building stuff into it. I know it's not as cool as the other one, but it works so.

Interesting.

So what is Anti Gravity by comparison to, like, all the other stuff? It is basically, if you've used Replit, it's free. It's a free version of replit. That's. That's the easiest way I can explain this. It is a free version of Replit and I don't care. I'm sorry, Amjad. The day was coming and this is what you get for not making your prices, the actual prices that the model costs actually are. Like, that's not my problem. Right, so now you're going to get freed to death.

Yeah. And I've heard, I've also heard this looks exactly like Cursor. It's very similar experience to that, except.

The best coding model in it for free.

Yeah. And where this is coming from is people from the Windsurf team went over to DeepMind and now we have Anti Gravity. Right. So it's super interesting. I'm not talking about that today, but the humans that are involved in the industry and where they go. And then when you can see immediate impact like this, it's something to pay attention to. If you.

News flash, I am officially downloading Anti Gravity right now as we speak. Just letting everybody know, this is the journey today. Learn and do. As we're going through this.

Now, you can see and you know again, you might, might know something about this stuff. Might not know anything about this stuff. I didn't know jack, like nine months ago. I knew nothing. The only thing I knew how to do, I started doing this stuff literally at Inbound last year. I was sitting in front or I was sitting in a talk where Matt Wolf was giving a speech and he mentioned Replit and I immediately jumped on and it's like, yeah, launch your, your site or launch your code immediately. I was like, what? This is nuts. And then I went to GPT and I was like, wow. So you can code pages for me and then bring them over to replit. And then I launch this thing and all of a sudden like, wow, I just have like had this mortgage calculator put together in like five minutes. And now I can do that in one prompt and like a minute. Right. But still the, the point really is that like, I didn't understand any of this, what it meant, what the, you know, what the purpose of it was, or, you know, any of the language I could and will tell you. You don't really have to either because it's basically doing it almost out of, like, courtesy more than anything else that I would say. I'm not really sure that's funny. It calls it monolithic. It's not even a thousand lines, dude. Like, take it easy.

I would imagine it proves the consistency on some level. It's also helped me move from my desktop Anti Gravity to my laptop Anti Gravity and back and forth.

Oh, yeah.

Because you can easily add this stuff to the repo if you need to, to share it. Even, like, as we start collaborating on a bunch of value first stuff, like, we're going to get real good at communicating asynchronously through the agents. Oh, yeah, Right.

And I have configured nothing yet. So this is very different from, like, my VS Studio setup because that has, like, agents configured chat modes, configured all sorts of, like, auto mode set, like, everything. I haven't done anything to this. So you're just watching, like, raw Anti Gravity, what it can do based bones out the box.

And I want to highlight, like. So it's done with the plan. You could either respond in the chat to move forward, or there's a proceed button at the top of the plan.

Artifact or if you know what it's got in mind. Right. So, like, maybe George is looking at this plan and sees where was it up here.

This is something I haven't tried yet.

So maybe it says configure tailwind. So, like, if you understand that tailwind is a type of CSS that's used, which is really awesome because it has huge libraries to match the brand orange and dark mode aesthetics. Maybe George doesn't want dark mode. Maybe he wants to change. Right. And he wants to say, like, heat typing. I really do. Hey, man. Rather having dark mode start with a light mode and just have a dark mode option.

Oh.

So like, basically a switch that if somebody wanted to choose dark mode mode.

Right? Yeah. So, like, let's put the option in there as opposed to, like, having it just straight up Dark mode. Right.

Yeah. It's almost like when I downloaded Anti Gravity, how it gave me, like, five different choices of what I wanted it to look like.

Yep.

Yeah. I wanted to. I wanted to pick Tokyo, whichever that one was, but the contrast wasn't good enough for me, so I.

I forgot which one this is. It's all. I really dig it, though. Monokai dimmed. Yeah.

Oh, there's a lot more options.

Oh, yeah. No, it's. It's okay. Sick. It's really sick.

Oh, look. Different Tokyo's Chris.

Yeah. Give it another shot.

Yeah, and that's the other thing. It's like the library is beyond that. So like even in themes you can go to color theme and then you can go to like a theme library to search for more. So like it doesn't even have, you know, it's, it's awesome. Same sort of stuff as bs but still. Here's what I found really awesome about doing these types of updates. Before we just saw the orange or the dark that it was going to use, right?

Yeah.

Now we actually have the actual numbers and the, the level that it's going to use for that color. So we can actually go take this and go look it up on, on the web and say, okay, let's see what that slate is going to look like. Let's see what this, you know, text white is going to look like. Let's see what this orange or this dark mode is going to look like prior to even running through with the plan. And if we needed to, we can make another review and say, now I want to change it to this or something or other. Right. Assuming that we're good with everything. By the way, the task list is already made. It's per the implementation plan. Right. So we like, it's got everything. So even with this, we can check out the tasks and then go back to the implementation plan and say, no, I actually want to add this, this, this or this. Right. So let's go ahead and proceed. And so now what's going to happen is you're going to watch that app app rough design file get essentially like I wouldn't say it's getting torn apart, but technically that's what's happening. All the pieces that are necessary to put it together. Excuse me, are just going to get created. All the index file that it needs, the source files that it might need, whatever, not modules. I think we'll still have to manually install the modules, but anything else that it will need in order to run css, like all that stuff, everything is just going to get written out in the exact same way that, that, that it would if it was any other auto coder that you've used before.

Yeah. Which equals none. But okay.

Yeah, but still it's awesome. Cancel the command with a do line. Well, I think if I open the terminal, I can actually watch what it's doing. Maybe. So now, yeah, it's. Now it's making all the directories that we need.

And so this is going back to the GitHub that we created and it's creating the directories and the files and all the stuff now is what it's doing.

So it's not necessarily going to the GitHub yet, but it is connected to it. So once we actually make changes and.

Everything locally and then you do like a git whatever. It's called a git whatever. And then it sends it to GitHub.

Yes.

Okay, gotcha. I did watch a couple of videos last night on Git and GitHub and the difference in commands. Anyway. No, it's awesome not be a complete noob when I got here today.

No, you're good.

Just saying.

So it's interesting to watch it because. Oh, wow. Yeah, I thought so.

My goodness, all that.

So we've got all our source files, got the byte file that we need. So now this. I know that Chris loves this moment when we have the vite config file.

Now what is vite config file? What is that?

Vite is like. I wish I could really speak to this.

It's an app framework.

Yeah. Basically it's almost same as React.

I know stuff like that. Now, just off the top. I've been doing this for at least four weeks now, George. So I got you.

I told him last week. I'm like, now you're gonna know exactly what I mean when I say I don't know about developing this stuff. I just know what I know how to do.

Well, how about we let you build that out a little bit on your side and I'm gonna share my screen because there's the side of this that's like what happens when stuff breaks and. Oh, you're gonna have to get humans involved at some point and.

Yeah, not really debugging.

Yeah. I've got some good examples to share. I'm going to add to the stage. This is an app that I've been working on, which is built as a page on the Value First Team website. And as I go through this, like, this is what I mean when I say, like, if you're just building PDFs and ebooks and like this thing that we're looking at right now did not exist Monday morning of this week.

Wow.

Right. It existed in the form of diagrams and documents from Claude and like, stuff that's going on in my head. Everybody knows I'm passionate about the HubSpot data model. So of course I'm going to want to build it into the website so that I can easily show people because it's really hard to do that in a HubSpot portal. But as I do it, and I started making this because literally I was in the moment of. All right. When Am I going to get into Canva to build the map that I need to build for the client project? I kept saying that day after day. I'm like, you know what, maybe it's time to just try and build it, right? This is after one week after Nico activated me two Sundays ago, right?

Wow.

And I started building websites.

Can you just say that again? Like, for anybody watching or listening this, like you, they. I hope I just got their attention. Just say that again. How many weeks?

Two Sundays ago is when I spent time with Nico. We chose not to go live.

And.

I connected these dots that we're talking about of, you know, it was at the end, at that time two weeks ago. It was Claude code. It was Claude to Claude code. Because we use Claude to like give us the best prompts. Like, hey, I'm doing this thing, I want to build it over here. Give me the prompt, right? And then GitHub and Vercel. Vercel is where everything's hosted and it automatically publishes stuff that comes from GitHub. It's super awesome. So my first week I built out the majority of this website, which has an assessment tool in it and, you know, some, some media stuff going on which still needs to be built out. It's got some placeholders here, which I know people appreciate, but it's got active shows I'm going to find. And now like watching this happen. Speaking of stuff breaking, but watching what Nico just accidentally did, right? One of the moments here was trying to build some automation, some workflows to automatically ingest stuff from YouTube. And it was like, all right, I'm going to build this and I need your YouTube API key. Now the fact that Nico stumbled into that immediately, my mind's like, oh, maybe this is way easier. And you will. This is where just the creativity and the ability to think critically, AI will still try to go the traditional routes when doing certain things because that's the knowledge that it has even to the point of this is got a HubSpot form here, which I had never done this personally. You know, the raw HTML, give it to the developer, they'll make it look nice in the website. That's what's happening here. The other thing I did over the week, and now the mission is to like start to bring these stuff, bring these things together. Is this, you know, educational simulator trying to show people, you know, some of the, the concepts that we talk about, right? And this is an example of like building, like when you build the foundation and it's in this environment where you have Help from agents and they're always aware of what's happening. Nico, on Monday we were talking about what he was going to be talking about on Tuesday at the admin hug. He's like, yeah, I'm going to be working on that. Let's make it a thing. Let's try to get it out there. I'm like, okay, I give the PDF to Claude and say, hey, I want to add this, I want to add this concept to the simulator. It creates this good looking page which by the way led me to, oh, I'm going to be showing this all the time on screen, share most of the time. So let me design it from that perspective so that it needs to look good as if I'm sharing it on, on a video screen, on a stream. Right. Makes this nice looking page. Right. And it builds it into these scenarios that are already in place. So when we look at customer profile comparison, we've got traditional icp, traditional CRM and what the ACP is highlighting one PDF and then one prompt from Claude and then this foundation that already exists. Let's just put it in there like this iteration that's possible. That was the first week and then this week has been focused on this guy. Right. And where I'm going with this is I've always had this, this dream really to combat the idea that leaders can't handle complexity and we got to keep it simple and you know all this stuff. Yeah, well, it's, it's complex system that we're building and if you can, if you've ever seen like a building engineering diagrams, right. They always do it in a way where there's one master, it's like the whole building, it's all the electrical, it's all the plumbing, everything on the same sheet. Like the most complex things you've ever seen. Sometimes they've got like little measurements on them and everything. Right. But then there's also like a plumbing only diagram and an electrical only diagram and, and Right. But they're all made in a way that you can put them all together if you want or you can look at them separately. So I've started adding in these layers of I want to do some journey mapping and I want to have process diagrams in here. I want to be able to see properties and pipelines and let's do some editing like inside of the table. Right. I'm not going to go into all of the like next steps because it probably could be obvious to some other consultants out there like what could happen next here because there's Already a HubSpot API layer built into this website, by the way. But so between yesterday and last night, I was going down this path with, with Anti Gravity. And I built the plan this morning. And before the show I started working on the plan, right? And I have it. So instead of pushing to branches, it's going right to the main. And that of course risks stuff breaking. And like, I've learned how to troubleshoot out of that, so I'm okay with that. And the first time it went. So this is the Vercel, right? And it's like, no, that, that didn't work, right? Then all I have to do is hit this copy button here, copy all lines to the clipboard. I do that and then I bring it into Anti Gravity. Didn't work. Here's the error message. It's like, oh, let me get on that. And then it says, I have fixed it. Well, it didn't. Then it says, let me try and fix it again. Then I come back here and look at deployments, right? So these two didn't work. Third one worked right as we. So this was the version, right? You can see one, one menu here. Everything's on one line, right? And this was like the new version where it's starting to build some of that complexity in, which includes a whiteboard. Because this time I was like, all right, let's go full Canva or Miro mode, dude. Of course these things, they don't work right now. I don't know how to add them, but that's the next prompt. But you can see how it shifted the UI a little bit to support this added complexity. And so, yeah, I just wanted to like highlight that, like, okay, air popped up. Here's the message. Get after it, buddy. Right? And then two goes. And it was done. And it's just like, I've never felt so powerful, like, yeah, like, in my life. And that's why I'm super psyched to activate you in this way, George, because literally, like all the diagrams, all of the thought leadership pieces, like, everything even building now, we can turn it into like these applications. And really, if you're in GTM and in marketing especially, like, what I'm going to end up with on this website is a true, like, interactive experience throughout the entire site that is personalized to the person that's viewing the site. Yeah, right. And with the ability to create apps like this and manage data at the level that HubSpot's allowing us to, you can, you can get there. And like, seriously, one week, right? I haven't I haven't tried this yet. I had it up like this. Analyze, analyze data model. Let's see what happens here. This was a moment throughout the week. I was like, hey, I've never messed around with AI stuff before, but let's plug it into the AI model. This one doesn't work, of course. I think this one will. Like best practices for object design. It worked the other day at least. Maybe this update that I just, that I just added broke it, but we'll see. But there was like a Gemini API app key, right. And this thing that just happened, is it asking Gemini this question? Like built into the website? Right. So just so powerful. And how are you doing on your side? Doing good.

Anti gravity is still going.

I do have, like, I did want to have. I want to. I wanted to try something fun if we can.

What's up?

I haven't. Do you know how to get to a new repo?

Yeah, if you do. File new window.

File new window.

Yes.

Okay. And so would you say it's best to create the repo first or can we have used to.

It depends on how you're used to doing it. If you are used to creating the repo first and then cloning it, then do that. If you are comfortable with dubbing locally and then pushing and creating afterwards, you can do that too. So it, it doesn't matter. You can do it at six and one half of the other.

All right, well, we're gonna, we're gonna try to start creating then.

So like I'll create first if I start with Claude, right? Because it has to be there for Claude to get started. But if otherwise, then I'm just doing it straight out of the ide because you can. So it doesn't matter.

All right, in that case, I am going to build this app, this game. And what's the difference between Gemini 3 Pro high and low?

I would equate it to low being like great for scaffolding, great for front end and can set you up for back end stuff and can like set up some back end. The difference between these models and like the, the high and low stuff is if you knew exactly what you needed to build front to back, and you knew, knew like what could come in between and you were like expecting all of that. You could use a low model because they go fast, they, they are good, they're efficient. But the odds that it will take the entirety of the code base into account while working are much lower. Like it'll take the last five steps, maybe the last six steps into account. So it also depends on how you work. Personally, I work with the like I work with the intention of not ever having to touch the code ever. So I tell the models, do literally what's best for you because I'm never going to edit this. It's all you. I, you know, you're going to have to touch it. So code it however works best for you in doing so. I don't like the models and I'm sure that they hate it having to, you know, when you tell them, go through the repository, familiarize yourself XYZ I can imagine how ridiculous it is to go dive a thousand lines into each file or you know, whatever it might be. So another thing that I'll do to help out is either through GitHub or through whatever. I mean now that you have the free. She have a free means of doing it. I tell it to go through every file that's pertinent to the application running and that the agent would look through and tell it to create notation at the top of the file relative to what the file is, what its role is in the application and where the most important parts of the file are within that file. So like you know what relates to the importance, let's say so that it knows like oh, okay, I can jump down to line 400. I don't have to bother scanning my way down there. That definitely helps you to be able to use like light models as opposed to high end models. But long and short of it is high end model is going to take way more into account. It's going to be much more holistic when it's writing code than the lighter model. The lighter model is just going to like bang it out, get it done. Which is not bad. Again if you know what you need to do. If it's like a quick edit, you definitely don't want to use the high model because it's going to take forever. It will overthink the solution. It's totally possible. But if you are building out and you're and you continue to build out other sections, I would definitely be using the high model for building and using the low model for like editing, tweaking, stuff like that.

Okay. And we also have this planning and task or planning and fast. Oh yeah too.

Yeah. So pretty much the same thing there. Planning mode is, hey, I'm gonna take a long time to figure this out, to work it out, plan it out and then to get it done. And even when I'm working I'm going to like go back, look at stuff. Make sure it's not crossing over, all that kind of thing. Fast mode is like, yep, gonna do it. Right. So it's like, fast with Gemini. Low is like, quick surgical stuff, right? Like, you can get, you know, small changes done very, very quickly. How far would I go with that? I would. If you didn't know what you wanted to change exactly, don't do it, because you're gonna get pissed. It'll change it in a way that you didn't expect. It'll do it in a very simplified way. And the first thing you're gonna say is, wow, really? You didn't even take this into account. And that's when you. You know, because it's. Again, so if. If it's a large change, like, hey, you're changing the look of a page entirely. Don't use, like, fast on low setting. It's not going to work out well. Do it. You could do fast with planning. So, like, I would go that far with changing a page. That makes sense because you're just changing the CSS and just moving some stuff around, theoretically. But if it's coming to, like, build out a new page, if you have no idea what you want, you can go fast. If you have an idea and you want it to match with the rest of it and you want it to, you know, make sure everything's good. Planning mode high. Like, it just kind of depends on which, you know, tools in a toolbox, right? Depends on what you're doing, what you're building. And I would honestly think about it that way is like, if I'm doing something simple, let me pare everything down. But if I'm doing something that seems complicated, I'll ratchet it back up. And when in doubt, ask the model. You know, just say, what's the degree of difficulty here?

Right?

And if it's like, well, you know, it's pretty high degree of difficulty or whatever, and obviously throw in the words, what's the degree of difficulty for you with this, right? And if it says, like, moderate to high difficulty. All right, well, let's throw it into planning high mode so that we make sure that it gets done right.

And I just want to highlight where we're at with this game. You can see at the top here, it's been creating all these things, so there's no repo yet. There's no file directory, like, nothing, Right. We just started, like, it's basically a chat, and it's like, let's build this, right? It starts to create all these things, like, cool. Now it's going to verify the Silo run game and open a browser and then start testing it out. The first time it did this, so this automatically opened on another screen. This is me moving your mouth arrows.

God.

I chose to not go the route that I keep hearing about on the Moochats podcast and build like a 3D cyberpunk first person shooter.

That was pretty cool though.

Right? But the way that it pulls the browser up. Right. And just starts testing stuff on its own. It does that with the website that I showed before too. Right. It checks its work. And I think these are. I should have, like, lost on purpose. Wonder if I can. I think these are the marketing messages. See, are the sales.

Sales messages.

Okay. Yeah. It's not doing everything.

That's funny.

Like, these are. This is representing sales trying to get you. And these are marketing messages. It's going to work on the dialog that's supposed to open up. Right. And it's debugging. So now it's debugging the game. Loading issue. And I think when we see a lot of these examples, especially from a B2B perspective, it's like, okay, cool, the model can build another game. Right? How is that, like, helpful? What I'm hoping to do is to then put this on a subdomain game, valuefirstteam.com and if, let's say people like the game and it's like a little fun game to play that generates conversations in ways that a downloadable PDF is never going to. Even in the app that Nico built, the gamification that just. This is where you start to bring domain knowledge from other places and apply it to where you are. And now, even for the humans that aren't good at that part, you have an AI friend that's just naturally doing it for you because it knows what works. It's like, oh, if you want. Literally, if you're wanting an app to do the thing that Nico is wanting to do, like, of course there's going to be an XP bar up here because that's what we're. That's what you asked for. You just didn't ask for it in that way. So how we do on your side? Can I share. Should I share your screen?

Yep. There you go.

So, by the way, Chris, before we end this thing, I'll probably want to share my screen.

Yeah.

Just saying. Because as I've been listening and learning, I've been doing some other stuff too.

Applying. Have you been.

Have you been fooling around there?

I've been nerding Nerding around. Yeah. Oh, look out. The logos. Like the little.

Yep, yeah.

Little bouncy bounce.

Dark mode. Light mode. Oh, God. Yeah.

Nice.

Wow.

Still got all of our guides. Still got. Yeah. And so now we're on. Now it's actually made it like separate pages as opposed to having it be slider, our game learning section and a profile.

And what's. Once you have it on there, you could literally be like, okay, now I want to work on the second course. Okay, now push that second course to this page. Like that type of.

Can you go to search George's website, the superhuman website, and based on the sections that we've put in for learning already, can you go ahead and fill those out with content either, like, directly from his site, like, fill it in in that way, or, you know, use it as a basis to create new content that reads the same way as his content?

One would be interesting.

Not on you. I want the entirety of the learning base. The. Yeah, the knowledge base and the learning base. I want the entirety of it completed, not just like one or two. Yep, let's go with that. And so while Anti Gravity has been building, of course, Quad code has been building as well on the side. The first rendition of it is done adding some, as I like to call it, adding some. Some spinners and screens. I love to do this thing, which, George, I think you're going to get an absolute kick out of. And honestly, no offense to anybody, because I used to watch the show every. Every. I've seen almost every single episode simply because of the screens within the screens bit. It just. It killed me every time. I just love to treat the software at some point like, you know, pimp my software. Right? And I tell either Claude or whomever I'm working with, like, you're going to play the role of exhibit. And here's this. I'm going to give you the software and you're going to just tell me, like, the lineup, like, what are you going to do? That's just going to take it, like, over the top from, like, where it already is at. Right. So in terms of the whole, you know, I usually. I tell people, like, one of the pillars that I have is always take things one step further. And if you do that, like, if you use that method, like, just tell it, like, hey, man, really, like, take it over the top. Go nuts with it. You know, what do you think you can do? What do you think we could, you know, fit in there? How do you think we could, you know, make it. Make it better? Yeah, 100%. Your. Your head's going to explode in terms of what it actually comes up with versus what you thought it might actually be able to do. So it's got some. It's filling in some coursework now. The George Protocol. I love that. Boundaries are your best friend. The silent killer of innovation. The empty audit. Wow. It's got some cool stuff in here. The engagement gap. Oh, if we could just layer that with the engagement trap, killing the whole thing. Oh, yeah, I love it. All right, so let me see, because Claude's, you know, he's fast on his feet. He's. He's no slouch, so he might be done by now.

Craziness.

Almost.

Like, I just hope everybody understands the amount that we've actually done, messed around with, played around with. Like, and, and by the way, no goal, no direction other than to have a show today. But, like, if you literally had a goal in a direction you're trying to go, the amount of time that this hour and a half could have gotten us towards a finished product, a launch of XYZ, whatever, or 1% better, closer to the thing that you believe you need to deliver to the world is nuts.

So we've just added some learning content. We're going to go ahead and restart the front end here. Oh, by the way, as complicated as it seems like, you know, when it comes to the terminal and doing all this, George, in every single case, you're going to get what's known as a readme file and you're going to want to read it because it legitimately tells you towards the bottom here. Oh, I guess there was a bottom. It's usually.

I never.

It's usually more straightforward than this. I'll be. I'll. I will say that. But you can actually ask it to. You can straight up ask it like, hey, how do I launch this? And it'll just spit out the directions on how you do it. And you could say, like, can you add those directions to. To what I'm doing? The only reason it doesn't do that right now is because of this byte config file. Right. So as opposed to what I'm doing, which is manually taking a look at it, you can see that there's this vite logo up here you can use. Which one is it? Vercel. You can use a. An application known as Vercell.

Yeah. So what is Vercel? Because I've heard Chris say it, like, what.

Basically, It's a. So VPs. It's like a virtual private server.

Okay.

And you use it in order to host applications. And the way could be apps, could be websites, like honestly, whatever you want it to do. And so it runs directly off of your git repository, which is why we say get the git repository thing. As you can see, Claude's superhuman version is coming up soon. Right now we're going to do the Anti Gravity version. And so when it comes to working, you know, working down here, so to speak, and then seeing what it looks like, that's why you do this like local run so that you can dev locally see what it looks like prior to actually pushing it live. So essentially what you need is at the end of the day, Gemini, Anti Gravity, GitHub, Vercel.

And you're live on the Internet.

Three out of the four are free. And Vercel, Vercel is free too. The, the free level of Vercel, you can actually use it and launch a couple things. But the paid version is like okay, like yeah, no big deal.

Yeah.

What puts you like you're online.

Yeah. So my Value First Team website, the stuff that I was showing it's on Vercel got you like it's a web host, right. And it's 20 bucks a month for unlimited websites where they, it's, it's, there's a usage based model. So it's kind of, it leans towards apps for sure. And I'm, I thought that's the thing like when I week one when I was doing this, it's like, oh, I'm never gonna hit that, I'm never gonna hit that limit because it's 20 bucks to, to host. But then if the usage and traffic gets high enough, that's when you start paying more. Yeah, right. And that's when I'm like, oh, I'm not, it's just gonna be websites. I'm not gonna have a ton of traffic either. But now as I start to build these interactive elements, right, that's using like you know, AI on the way and people are downloading, uploading, like that's the usage that will take me over. But again like if it does, like if I'm having to pay for that, probably some good stuff is happening.

There should be some revenue being driven if.

Yeah, yeah, right. Like, and that's, that's the thing, like if it, if I do game.value first team.com and I build a game and a bunch of people show up and play it, right. But then it generates a bunch of pipeline, it's probably way cheaper than any, any of the usual stuff. And Back to what George said. Like, imagine the 40 hours that you just spent last week.

Yeah.

And like take one hour of that and start applying it in these directions. Like, man. Yeah, we're. We're an hour and 40 in like.

Okay.

And three of us are building separately, as you know. I look forward to showing Georgia stuff.

Yeah.

Oh, man. Like, I didn't have any of this set up like prior to when we came in.

Can I, Can I share, by the way?

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay, so share screen.

Have to rename this how the student becomes the master in 90 minutes.

Well, no, let's see. That's not. I'm looking for this one because this is not even close to done yet. But I just want you guys to see like just in this conversation and like unlocking and being able to do.

Some things in this short an amount of time, guys. In this short an amount of time.

So basically what you're looking at is you're looking at Superhuman Framework website, which I have the framework. Right. I'll talk about that a minute. Who. It's for leadership. HR people, op sales, marketing service pastors and personal. By the way, I can click into leadership and then it like little literally starts to like build that page out. Services, speaking, workshops, coaching, mastermind the founder. By the way, this is not me, but I could replace this when we get there. Right? But if I go on the founder, it literally started to build out like the founder page. Again, none of these pages are done. But check this out. Like, new operating system available. Stop drifting. Start designing. Become Superhuman. The comprehensive operating system for high performance, leadership, business and life. Don't just work harder. Upgrade your internal software. Take the assessment. Explore the framework. I've got a little slider here that is like actual like testimonials. You're running a 21st century life on a 20th century OS and it just did a scratch out. And so you could like, where do you need to be Superhuman for leaders? For sales, it literally gives me these cards. Universal foundation for personal growth. Start designing your life. But so here's what's crazy. I'm going to come back to this in a second, but I did what you said. As you're talking. I said, okay, this is amazing. Now please act like exhibit from Pit my ride and add some amazing user experience items, some easter eggs. Then give me a preview right now. I. In this preview, it's like I can't do the extra things it's asked me to do. But I started laughing my butt off because it's like the Konami code Nitrous system. Like, go into God mode by doing these key keyboard bindings, confetti cannons, the reading gauge hydraulic button, or here you go. Secret hood ornament. Click the main superhuman logo five times fast and watch it do a barrel roll. Like, I'm like, oh, my God. So. But here's where I last. I started to lose my mind. Take the assessment. Okay. What is your superhuman arc archetype? You're fighting a battle every day, but which one found out? Find out which superpowers you need to win. In less than two minutes, start assessment. Okay, first things first. Who should we call?

You?

Okay, I'm George. Next step. When you wake up on Monday morning, what is the primary battlefield you're stepping into? Let's see. Culture managing people. Okay. Analyzing your like again. It's not finished, but you get the idea of where it would be heading for an actual. And then also you can like download the HR playbook or whichever playbook that you actually wanted to it in. Like, anyway.

Yeah, anyway. And now once you get Vercel rolling, it'll be.

Yeah.

Available for others in seconds.

And I could. And then I could literally build out each individual page. Like, okay, now we're gonna spend time and we're gonna build this page.

Push it.

Now we're gonna build this page.

Push it.

Like it's nuts.

That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it is. And I love the fact that I just. I love the fact that you're. You're doing it now. And I really. I can't wait to see, like, outside. I mean, you know, for most people, it's like, even, even wix, man. Like, I don't even know what WIX is going to do. Like, who cares?

Okay.

Watched a couple of things where WIX is starting to squarespace. Starting to. And there's even like a WordPress vibe. Like they're starting to add vibe coding to these platforms. But I will say that again. Trying to be prepared for this today. And then the thing that I'm doing with Chris later next week, spending some time kind of being able to drill in even deeper one on one to what we're talking about. Today I tried the WordPress, like, vibe thing, and I was like.

Cool, Cool.

Not what I'm looking for.

And that reminds me of something I wanted to highlight because I've made progress on my side too. Right. Let's press space to start. And this is. So the reason I was kind of disappointed in the first pass is that when Gemini gave me this idea like, for the show, the first time it gave it to me, it had more details in it. And then at the end, the prompt had less details, and I didn't pay attention to which one I was giving anti gravity. So the one at the end, like, is what we ended up with. Right. And so I. So then I went back, like, all of this is when you can understand the layering. Like, once you build the foundation, can just layer and work with it. And you're not the one having to. To do that, because that's where, especially in SaaS like that, back and forth with devs, with designers, with everybody, humans have been able to do that kind of thing. But you just know when you see that file, that's like version 12. 100 hours went in, and you're just like, oh, my God, can we never get to version 12 again, please? Right. Instead, we're like, I've done over 100 pull requests on GitHub and you're just continually iterating because AI can do this for you. I went back and I got the original prompt, said, hey, can we make it look like this is the original idea? Can we add some of this stuff in? I also want to make it more visually compelling. Got some work to do there. But either way, this is like 10 minutes later, 15 minutes later than when I was showing it before. So let's press space to start. Oh, that's space to take me off stage, apparently. All right. And we'll activate this. Press space to start. And I'm the customer and I'm trying to get to the actual value support. Oh, sales. Got me just bubbling this up. Oh, got me again. Oh, let me try to. And the game pros. Okay, It's. I think that my guy, Anti Gravity, is. Is watching this almost, but let's load it again. And it's actually in this, in my other browser. Here is what happens when sales stop me and what's supposed to happen with the. Like, these are newsletters, right? Game over. You ran out of patience. Right. So what George is referring to about these older tools, like, let's say somebody on the team has an idea for this app, and they know that it would be a brilliant lead generator. Right. And I only say that word to connect you with what you're doing every day. Right. I wish you would call it something else, but you're not going to for a while. So, you know, it would be a great lead generator. You know, it would get traction and it would be a great thing to share on social. And if you could Just put it on your website. That would be the activation needed. Now we can plug it into HubSpot. Now we can get forms. But guess what, that's not going to be easy because we've got this old traditional web infrastructure, like, to put it on and we can't just go from anti gravity to GitHub to Vercel in seconds. We've got to give it to our dev team. We've got to, you know, if we have the WordPress thing, like, maybe we can get it in there now with agents. But that's the kind of stuff, like the innovation that gets stifled because we're not using this newer AI native infrastructure. Once you can let go, like, nobody's building stuff that, like. Oh, man, it's just, it's. You gotta figure out a way to enable your teams, like, to innovate in this way. What do you got on your side? Yeah, I've got.

So I've got Claude's version. So this is. This is what we had from Gemini. Right. Valiant effort, no doubt. Not like anybody shaking anything at it. And then. So I had quad code working in the background and it decided to do that. And I think, if I'm not mistaken, this is like a. I'm not even sure. I mean, I know that it's. It works, but I don't know what it. Oh, wow. Don't tell me that. That hq.

What?

I'm sorry, what the.

What can you say? Videos.

Leaderboard.

Oh, my God, Videos.

Hey, George, here's the difference between Gemini and this. This is a big one, right? So first of all, look at the menu. Yeah, I didn't ask for the extra stuff. It's just in there. Secondly, we go to watch, right? I'm not saying that Gemini can't do this. It's a matter of what Claude looks at it. Claude is more creative. Gemini is not quite as creative. What's the, the difference? There is like, even with coding, which, you know, again, use Claude at your own risk when it comes to ide, because it can get creative if you're going from like, raw idea to application. Claude code. Yeah, or Claude all day long. Right. Because it is as creative as you are. The whole pimp my ride thing with Claude, oh, my God, like, that's how we got to what you're gonna see. Yeah. With Gemini, it's just like, it's a really good developer. You just got to give it some. Some help. But. So Gemini was able to, you know, get your stuff in here. Oh, that's weird. It plays in There now, before. It wasn't doing it.

It wasn't doing it before.

Oh, well, Claude had knocked it out of the park. It was. It just did it, like, right out the gate. I was like, oh, cool. I don't. I don't have to do anything. It can just do that for me, right? This is. This is insane to me.

Like, the fact.

Any website. Is there any website that does the audio navigation thing?

I. No, I don't. Not that I know of. Voice commands, Learning.

Like, come on. That just. What, adding that in now I'm gonna add that into the website because I know that I can. And this world where, like we talk about HubSpot or whatever software you're using just being audio enabled, right. We've been thinking about talking to chats. I wasn't even thinking, like, talking to your site, like, homepage, like CRM, contact record, like.

And for me, like, this, the. The floating thing is cool, but it's like, I want it to be the case so much that basically. And I'll see if Claude can do. This would be sick. This would be so sick.

Yeah, no, you'll definitely be able to hockey it, like, if that's where you're going.

Oh, not even, just. No, not even. Dude, wait.

What would be cool is if there was a tool tip where, like, you could hover over the tooltip and it would give you, like certain commands. You could give it. And if one of the commands was conversation, it like opened up a chat bot where you could then start to, like, just have a chat with like the AI or the clone or something like that.

True, true. Hey, bud. So everything that you've done, amazing. Utterly amazing. Just a couple things that I want to tweak, though, that I think could really, really take it over the top. And it's going to just slap people so hard. Basically, when the user is on the site, anytime that their mouse isn't on something that they are able to click, it should have that microphone button so that they can just like very easily click to open the mic and give a command, right? So that they don't even have to like, work too hard to do it. Just have it maybe a little bit smaller, like 20% smaller, and then just have it follow the mouse around the page, wherever again, wherever there's no clickable surface. And then in the profile add something in there so that we can actually add additional commands. Like, we'll give it a command and then basically what it would do is search through the HTML and scrape till it finds some sort of Word or hotkey or something like that that matches up to what the command is and if it's on another page or whatever, just goes straight to that page. And what's sick is the same thing here. Like you could use Sonnet, you could use Haiku. I'm definitely using Sonnet because this is not a small thing, not a small request.

It's huge, right? That's two weeks of a developer drinking 50 gallons of coffee and like Red Bull and staying up late and burning out.

Yeah. And probably not getting it right the first time. And all the iterations. Like that's where like it's surprise.

It's.

I mean it shouldn't be surprising but when you know that like Claude code is one of the. Has been known for a minute and is used in so many of the wrapper, you know, applications for coding that it's probably getting more run than any of the other like LLM coders. So it's not. Shouldn't be surprising that it does some of this stuff better and, but also like, I want to talk about the domain thing, like understanding what's happening in other places and then trying to apply it. Like when I gave this, when I went to like, oh, wait a second, I'm going to be using this on streams. So I wonder like where my mind went is like, oh, when I'm in Gamma, I can go into presenter mode. Like I wonder if I can do that on my website. Right. If I'm going to be using. And that's where like you see. Well, you can't see. Let me get rid of this turkey guy. You can see this normal and press P. I press P, The text gets a little bit bigger. This is a theme, this is like a layer that is applied to the whole website. I probably wouldn't even have thought of that had I not experienced it with Gamma.

Yeah.

Right. And that like, if you can just open the mind a little bit about what your website is supposed to be versus what it could be, man. Like basically if it's happened in digital somewhere, means there's coded at some point and your AI agents can just like get it in there. Right?

Yeah.

And like just think of all like. And we're just scratching the surface here. Right. How are we doing over here? Still working.

Still working.

But that's so long, Nico.

Yeah, I know. Right. So like this is one of the big differences that I love about Claude that you really. You'll only see it with like codecs too. I haven't seen it with Gemini yet, but it took all of this time, right? Where it's like, oh, my gosh, like it's still just doing whatever. It's reading every single file it's going through and, like, looking at all the stuff, looking at the voice commands file, reading through all the lines of everything, going through whatever it needs to, right? All the way. Until it comes down to, you know, cool. Now I have a clear picture of the code base. Let me read the key files that I need to understand implementation before making any changes. Right. So this, and this is just with Sonnet. I can't imagine what it would be like with Opus. I absolutely, like, it has to be one shot, without a doubt with like the most amazing, like, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory type you can possibly think of. Right. Like, I imagine when you do it with Opus and you ask for something like, I don't know, I want an app that can, you know, track all of my monthly subscriptions for me and, you know, help me to, like, merge them all into a similar date or some. Something like that. Right? That's definitely like an ask, walk away, come back when it notifies you on your phone and poof, you're going to have that, like, done. Like, Cherry can launch immediately through. Vercel can be used immediately. Like, no, like, probably no necessary. Like, nothing outside of maybe you might have to set up a, like a Supabase or something like that back end. But even that is a matter of, like, clicks. It's not even, it's not even anything that would throw you for a loop, right? In terms of like, I can't, I couldn't possibly do that. And every time I hear like, I can't do that, it's like, really, you can't ask the model how to help you do this thing that you don't know how to do. Surely you can.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, definitely. Things are going amazingly fast. I. I really, like, I. I knew that it was going to get towards this speed by the end of this year and that we would have, like, even the robotics have gotten to the same point that I thought we would get to. So given that that's the case, actually, I think I just put together the.

GEM version and one of my favorite things about so far about anti gravity, this is where it's like, it's hard not to see that this is going to become one of my workstations. And let me reiterate, like, IDE meant nothing to me prior to, like this week, right. I had not effectively used, and I say that word effectively meaningfully because, yeah, I Had VS Studio on my desktop, tried it at some point in the past and said, oh, this is going to be the new thing. I got in there. It was clunky. I didn't. It wasn't easy enough, right? So I just said, okay, I'll go back to the. I'll just go back to Claude and look forward to the day when this stuff gets easier and I could just do everything all in one place. It's starting to feel like that in this, in this environment. And right here you see that I prompted it with please keep going. Because at this point, like, midst in the middle of the task, I hit the limit. I. For. For Gemini Pro3 high, right? And so if I would have been in Claude and I hit the limit, I'm done with that chat. I got to start a new chat. I get real frustrated right here. I just come down here and pick the next model, in this case Cloudsonnet 4.5. And all I have to say is, please keep going. And it looks at the previous chat and then we keep going. Now I'm at the point where it says, I want to add this to my website as a subdomain@game valuepersin.com it's like, I can help you deploy that deployment. Questions, where is it hosted? So, number one, Vercel. Yes, I have DNS access. Would I prefer automated deployment push to GitHub Auto Deploy via Vercel? Yep, automated. The game will need to be built for production. Should I create a production build now, set up deployment configuration files? Both. Pretty sure the answer is both. And this is what's so funny, right? Like, a lot of times it will quote like days, weeks, months, as the amount of time it will take. Like, as if I have to choose between both because you're just going to knock them both out in five minutes. Like, why would it. Right? But oftentimes that's coming from like, oh, this is going to take a minute. So which one do you want to do first again? That's like, it's letting best practice development, like, coming in as if it's not, you know, the fastest, smartest thing that's ever existed. I'm gonna answer there. And so this is how I've been working. I've never touched GitHub. And then all of a sudden I'm in there pulling the shit out of some requests and merging branches and pulling up GitHub Assistant and it's calling its agents into the fray and getting some stuff done, all the while telling me it can't do stuff but it's pulling in agents and then so there is a learning curve. Right. But once you figure out what the pieces are, it's like, oh, now I know it's going to tell me it can't do it because it's actually going to call an agent to do it. And for some reason it hasn't figured out how to tell me that. It just says no, I can't. Right. It's ah, man, like the fact that every one of these has an assistant, right. That you can pull up and like, man, you just gotta start getting in here like, okay, review the plan, create a deployment plan. Yep. I trust you at this point and, and mind you, like for both, both of the apps that I've shown, not the game, there was a point where it was broke, they were broken and nothing was rendering. Right. For, for a multi hour period, either I wasn't around or you know, it took me a minute to work with the things. Right. At one point, the point where I moved from cloud code to Anti Gravity doing stuff like the first update of Anti Gravity broke the whole site. Right. And I did some stuff to fix it. I ended up going back to cloud code, giving it the error messages. It fixed it on the first pass. Right. So learning how to work with these tools I'd say is super valuable. Don't get as, as exciting as I, as excited as I am for this experience because in Cloud Code for web I can't add images and the multimodal stuff, but I still get to access cloudsonnet like through this, through this interface and it's interesting to learn like how this is like it's Anti Gravity Agent and then it's using models. Like just because Anti Gravity is doing the thing doesn't mean it's using Google's model and understanding like what that means for the outputs. That's why it's been weird but also interesting to see that I can just say keep going and it switches models like and actually you know, does keep going effectively. And what I was going to say about the breaking thing, of course, like understand risk. Yeah, right. Like I'm doing the. Like if I were building an app that I expected people to pay for and run on their own systems, on their own browsers and you know, they expected 99.9% uptime. They expected everything to work right. There's a different development path like and a lot more of the iteration of security and the usual things that you'd expect. But if you're just. There's so much opportunity if you Have a catalog website site that just has content on it. You could go tell Gemini or Claude to go look at that website and pimp it out, just like George said, right?

Not only pimp it out, but, like, you can ask Gemini to go look at the site and then go deep research content for your site and then give that to. To Claude code to then tell it to, like, weave it into your site in various ways, wherever it makes sense. And trust me, as you've seen with George's site already, that he had that he put zero. He did not say, put this text here, put that text here, put this thing here, put this thing here. I want this to be arranged this way.

No, no, none of that.

I mean, like, it's. It's nuts to me.

And that's where you have to be able to let go of what's been. Because you could turn your entire damn website into the infrastructure that we're showing you in less than a day, right? And now you are prepared for this future that we're describing, which is right now. Where literally one of the things I'm excited about working with, like all the people that I've been doing content with, everybody's got ideas. It's literally somebody sends a slack message, I copy paste that into Claude, say, give me a prompt to add this to the website and then it's up. Right? Like, things should not take a long time anymore. The build part should be the easy part. The challenging part, like it's always been, is do you have the strategy in place? Do you have people aligned so that human nature will not get in the way of these quick decisions, these quick wins? Right? So I've got to do some manual stuff here, right? Create GitHub repo. I'm just gonna ask. I'm pretty sure the answer is no. But sometimes this is what it takes. Like, it'll say it'll tell you to do the manual thing, even though it could do it for you. I'm going to say, can't you create the repo for me? Because Gemini, when I was talking to it earlier, suggested that it might be able to. Now I'm about to lose my mind if it starts acting like an agent with the browser, Which I think is what it's suggesting it's gonna do, and it should me ask me to sign in, Right? And now, of course, like, if you know how to use GitHub, like, I probably could have done it already by now. So learn the balance. But the more you let go and just decide to let the agents do the work. The easier all this gets and the more that the agents, like, learn for you and the process that you're going to go through.

So.

The agent's running and I can. It seems you haven't logged in yet. Yeah, because you wouldn't let me. Under we go here.

Cornerstones.

Nope, that's not the. Right. Here. I'll let. I'll let you go while I figure this out.

I just wanted to see what it was gonna do, but it's. It's interesting. Like, it does definitely have the floating thing. It's not quite what you know you're expecting, but the functionality is definitely there for it to actually work.

Can you get closer to your mic? You're going in and out.

Oh, I'm sorry about that. Yeah, the. The mic aspect of it actually does work, but it's a little bit. It's not a little bit. It's glitchy learning, but it does, you.

Know, wherever you click. Wow.

Hq. Yeah. So now UI has just been pretty much destroyed. Right. Because, like, what I would love to do, what would be cool.

What would be cool is if you under the main mic or next to the main mic, there's a info thing. You hover over it and it tells you press M anywhere and your cursor turns into the mic.

Yeah, true.

Then you can really be like, click, click, click. Oh, M ba, ba, M ba ba. Like mic to talk to it.

By the way, I never showed you this 3D portal thing because I'm not entirely sure what it is, but it decided to make it.

Oh, deals.

So I think.

I don't know what that is.

I think the idea is that you would connect your HubSpot token and it would then do like a 3D data map representation.

Yeah.

Of your CRM. Yeah.

So keep going with this. I will let you know. Update. I've signed up for a free Vercel account. I have actually got it to the point where it's looking at my GitHub repository. I have not imported my GitHub repository yet because I've also connected my Claude code to my GitHub and I've connected my ChatGPT to my GitHub and my Gemini. I have connected to my GitHub. So I have all three of my AI tools connected to my GitHub and my GitHub connected to Vercel, but I haven't actually brought it into Vercel yet because right now I told Claude code to look at the original file that I uploaded. That thing we were looking at Gemini and use that to transform into all the files that we need to have a functioning website and start to build in the future. And it's literally sitting here building it right now.

Yeah. Meanwhile, I logged in. This is Anti gravity going through the process of creating a new repo.

Oh.

Even put a description in for me and looks like the repo is done. That's the thing, like when I. When I read it from Gemini and this is where, like this these days of when we just like. If you let the idea of hallucinations stop you from believing that these tools can do stuff. When it said that to me, I was like, oh, I don't know how it would do that. So I'm guessing that this is just a hallucination. Right. Knowing that for the past week I've watched it pull up browsers and do stuff in browsers, but I was not. It's only to test its own stuff. Right. At the local level. Right, Right. But if it can't do that, why couldn't it pull up a browser to do stuff on my behalf? So that's why I asked the question. Let's see. Right. Gemini said it could do it. Like, let's see if it could. And it didn't do. As soon as it said, oh yeah, I'll just pull up the browser, I'm like, oh, yeah, of course that's how it's going to do it. Now it goes through. This is why as I was putting the pieces together, this is one of my new operation centers. If I can start operating from here, like GitHub repository created in code pushed successfully deploy to Vercel. Go to Vercel. Import your repository quest question.

When you're importing a thing into Vercel, it gives you a framework preset. Is there a certain framework preset that you guys pick?

It should. Should be automatic.

Mine just says other automatic. Yeah, Okay. I just want.

So I'm going to pull up my Vercel. All right. And I think I need to go here and I'm going to add the domain. Or actually I want to add new domain. All right. How about I just follow the directions?

Follow that. Read me?

Yeah. See, now I've got this active. Hopefully this open. Yeah. So there we go. It brought me right to the page that I needed to get to. Instead of me clicking around, it's like, what are you doing, human? Stop trying to do this stuff. There it is. Silent run. Will import. All right. Yeah. So when this just as an example, George, when you hit import, it senses whatever the Framework is. In my case, it shows vite because that's the framework. And we'll click deploy Now. I'm excited. The fact that I know that the agent could have done this for me. Oh, man. Folks, please stop building ebooks for the love of all things holy. Unless it's like a fully interactive website that you want to call an ebook. Like, oh, man, you just deployed a new project. Okay. Continue to dashboard. So right now. And this is where. So Free Vercel, you can get to things like this. Where. Where it is a shareable proof of concept, basically, before I even add the subdomain. Right. So this is hosted on the web. I could share not lying if you guys could. If somebody could go here.

Yeah, I just threw up and share. Yep.

And there it is up on Nico's side.

Yep.

Right. And there's Nico playing it.

Oh.

Wow.

All right. So that's it on the.

It's easier than it actually.

Right. And did you notice that, like, when the white dot hit you, it said, subscribe to newsletter? There's. So I. I'm naturally gonna build that out because I love the concept. So that's like, Free Vercel. Right? And to get to this proof of concept moment, like, don't sweat. Like, if you've got to get this far to help your team understand, like, maybe we should rethink our website strategy or whatever it is. Like, you can get to this proof of concept moment where you can remove all the barriers of, like, oh, well, that's just in the LLM. Like, let's see it outside of the LLM. Right? Oh, well, you shared that link. Well, I need to open up my own Vercel account so that I can see it, like, nope. Like, you can get to this part where it's just like, hey, share this link. What do you guys think? Right.

Right.

And by the way, as you're doing that now, if you can get any of that documented or you're. Or like, there's a transcript, and then you just give it to the. You just get. You just let the AI. You just take the words from the human and you just don't do anything. Just add it into the AI, that whole, like, period.

Because I remember. I mean, it lasted probably a good year where developers were saying, like, oh, yeah, and then you're gonna need us to come in and clean the code because you know it's gonna be all buggy and. And it's like, yeah, I kind of. You know, I did. I experienced that, like, in January through, like, Probably June, July to be honest. Like pretty hardcore. Obviously it was worse in January than it was in July, but you know, it was pretty, pretty gnarly. Then when I switched to like starting to use IDEs more and getting more comfortable with that and getting more comfortable with GitHub and then like migrating out of Replit and Firebase, things just changed dramatically and it was just like, wow, really? What are you guys talking about in terms of like having to come clean up the code base? I literally just ask it to do that and then just watch it go do it. Like, I don't understand why you would have to like worry about, you know, issues or errors or anything. Like you just, it's building it. So you just ask it, like, hey, go review the repo, like see if there's any security flaws, see if there's anything, you know, missing or whatever. And even if you're unsure, like we've, we've last. Last weekend we did. Or was it two weeks ago? I can't remember now. Yeah, when we were working on it. It's just a matter of like, hey, what should we look for when doing this? Right? Or I'm about to deploy the application, what should I keep in mind when doing this? Or what do I need to make sure I do before I do that? Or hey, I'm thinking about putting in profiles. What do we need to do in order to build user profiles? Again, just approaching it from that five year old mentality of just ask. Just ask like even the dumbest questions you can think of and it'll tell you like, yes, no, that's not possible. Like whatever it might be, like. So it took the, it took the superhuman academy from like the individual before.

Yeah, I'm gonna share a screen before we go there. Like this is where the tools matter a lot, right? Like when WordPress says they've added in stuff, but still it's built on WordPress, the WordPress we've always known they've got to fit that stuff into that, right? The likelihood that they get it right. This is what it means to be AI native versus not right. Vercel AI native. And what just happened was. So the one thing I've done outside of. I think I actually did it while we were on the show, but I added, added the subdomain which isn't even showing up here. I gotta refresh. I'm not gonna show it, but it's there. And because I already have my main domain over, like Vercel knows about it. That's where it's Hosted. I literally to go from this proof of concept and this is where the $20 comes into play. I went click Domains add domain. I didn't do any setup. Like I added it at my domain provider. I didn't do any other setup in the back end of Vercel anywhere. It did not know about this subdomain before I typed it in right here. It adds it. I go back to deployments and I hit refresh and now it's at the subdomain, right? At the professional like business looking subdomain. Like there's been so many of that where it's like, oh well that's, that's good, cool. But it's like people aren't going to trust that. How do we get it into our domain? And right. This, this is how easy it could be if you are using these tools. Like that motion of adding a subdomain as easily as I just. Right. That hasn't happened like that, right?

No.

And that's why I say it like any of your campaign. Like the level of interactivity you could create into your digital experiences. Like this has been 45 minutes since I started building this and now it's on a subdomain live. On the business website. Oh.

Meanwhile, meanwhile we took the conceptual lessons and turned them into like actual interactive coursework. So now we can go through.

Man. And I tell you what, back in 2011, as I was learning how to be a manager, like managing people for the first time, I went nuts on this spreadsheet where I took what I loved about Final Fantasy and I'm like, let me build this XP based system that's going to be able to evaluate employees and we're going to make it fun to like train on stuff. And it's hard. Like it's so hard without these tools. And it's not hard anymore. Like, and you just have to want to make that kind of stuff fun and innovative and like have a training program in the first place, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it's like where you thought it's that whole thing of like, oh yeah, well, effort and time. It's like, no, not anymore. Like now the, the effort is making the request and the time is the 8 is however long it takes the agent to do it. So like that's, that's where we're at, right? Like the whole thing in terms of like building websites, building applications, building extensions, like all of that kind of stuff. It's all just a matter of asking now. Like yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah.

Idea out of your brain into the model and go, right. Like, for me, it's knowing that I can get to the end is so powerful. That's what lets me ask the first question, right? If I don't know that it's possible to get published, right? All these ideas are coming because at the beginning of this year I was like, man, I look forward to the day when this is all like, I can just go right to publish. Right? And that's been possible. But there is additional steps. It took a little bit more understanding of these systems. It's going to keep getting less and less and less. And we're going to be here to keep activating you. So what do you think, George? All set?

I don't know if I'm all set. I'm kind of stuck, but I'm stuck in a very interesting place which I'm sure we can talk about at a later date. I'm super excited to see what's possible. My mind, my mind is blown. I feel like I'm almost there. Almost there.

I look forward to Wednesday for sure. But until then, we're gonna be back on Monday, right? Nico Morning show.

Yes. Yeah, we should. Yeah, we will.

Okay. Well, it's a holiday week either way, so might. Might be in and out with the content, but we're going to do our best to keep. Keep informing you as to what's going on, what could be and why you should be doing it, and why you should care. This is Tech Stack reimagined. Thanks so much, fellas. We'll see you next time.

See you.