LIVE SHOW: Remarkable People Behind the Podcast How to Perform Like a Rock Star

Behind the podcast. So excited to be here. Hello, everybody.

Wait, what happened to the usual, you know, thing, Intro.

Oh, I forgot to do it. Yeah, I'm sorry. We were talking about. I really did.

Oh, my God.

Okay, let's start it over. Let's do it again because. No, it's. No, we'll do it again. Here we go. We're starting.

Can I keep eating my cereal?

Yeah, go eat your cereal. That's why I really wanted the countdown. Here we go.

Sam. Good morning. Good morning. It's a guy, Kawasaki. I am in Santa Cruz, California, and we're with Pig Fitzpatrick, who is in Live Free or Die country and Jeff C. Who's in Mask Free.

No, it's Don't Mess with Texas. That's the whole thing.

Yeah, don't mask with Texas.

No, don't. Here we go. New bumper stickers are coming out.

Yeah, get the T shirt. It's on sale at Amazon right now.

It probably is.

We could go down a deep hole and talk about masking and vaccination right now, because we're all pissed off, but we're not yet.

We're excited about this week's guest.

We are, we are. And it's Mark Schulman. Mark Schulman is Pink's drummer and he was Sheer's drummer. And he was like a lot of rock stars drummer, so. So it's a very interesting episode. Suffice it to say, I don't hang around rock stars very often, so it was great to get his perspective about drumming and music and being a rock star and all that kind of stuff. So we have an icebreaker question, which is. Go ahead, Jeff.

It is. What was your first concert?

Oh, man.

What was your first concert?

Did they have music back then?

It was some ukulele thing. I think it was. No, I think Captain Cook played. That's a good question. Maybe Crosby, Stills Nash and Young. I don't know. Justin Bieber. I'm not that old. What about.

I know Peg. You know, yours. What was your first contest?

I did. I went to see the Cars. The Cars. When their first album, the Cars, came out. So. So that was back when I liked the Cars because Rick Ocasich wasn't. Well, he's passed away now, but he wasn't very nice in his will, so that's another topic. But it was the Cars who I liked a lot. I used to go, tons of concert. Yeah, they were good. How about you, Jeff?

So my first one was. It was in. I think it was in Kansas City. It was Chicago with Peter Cetera. It was pretty cool. I thought it was pretty awesome. I'm trying to think of the last concert I went to, and I think it was, gosh, when My wife Loves Earth, Wind and Fire. So we went and saw him, and it was crazy. It was amazing.

I think my first one may have been Blood, Sweat and Tears. Cool.

I think my Last one was U2 in London.

Oh, that would have been cool.

U2 in London.

Yeah. Rich loves U2, and his dream concert is to go to U2 in Dublin. Just like to be in Dublin and, you know, see U2. So we saw them at the O2 arena, and it was a really good concert. U2 was really good.

I don't know if it qualifies, but. I don't know if this qualifies, but I was in London when Elton John had an outdoor concert, and so I heard that. I didn't go to it, but I heard it.

So I saw. I saw Elton John and Billy Joel on a Piano man tour. They toured together.

So let us know. Your first concert you went to. Steven says, Stefan Wolf. That was very, very cool. Luciana says, yes, the Cars, that was. Yeah, they had a lot of good songs back in the day. Let's see. Oh, Tracy says hers was U2 as well.

Yay.

Your first concert spoiled for everything.

I know. Oh, Carol says Bruce Springsteen.

The Boss.

The Boss, yes. So very, very cool. She saw it in Syracuse. Maybe you were at the same concert. You never know.

No, we. No, But, Tracy, I'm from Rochester, so shout out to upstate New York. I went to the War Memorial, but.

I went to two Justin Bieber concerts. How many people can say that?

You did? I. I've seen Justin Bieber twice in person.

You mean at the Toronto airport or at a performance?

No, I saw him. I saw him one time in the weirdest place of all, Rome. We were across from the. The ruins, and we were crossing the street, and the Biebs come across with all of his entourage. He was, like, in the Roman Ruins with his entourage. So weird. And I was gonna take a picture, and I have a great Fuji camera, and one of his bouncers came over, and I was like, I'll put it away, because they're notorious for breaking cameras. But I still did get a picture. And then when I had a speaking engagement in Beverly Hills, I was. I hopped on the elevator to go to my speaking gig, and he was on the elevator.

No.

So I literally rode the elevator with him like two other people. But it was really cool because the other people didn't know who he was. So I wasn't like. But it was him. And he got off. And I was like. And he just like gave me a little like. And I was like, my girls are like, how can you see him twice? So two. So one time was in an elevator, which is a very close contact.

Yeah. So some more. Some more people like Eric says, too many people to remember which one was first. He's a big YouTube fan too. He's gone see him a bunch of times.

Did you. You said you should have said you should. You just. You should have said to the bib one less lonely girl when you got in the elevator.

You're right. I'm totally his demographic.

So why are we. Why do we ask this question? Let's talk about why. Why we're talking about concerts because people may be joining. What in the world?

What the hell?

Yeah, so it's. Go ahead, guy.

No, it's because our guest is Mark Schulman and he's the drummer for Pink. So he gave us a lot of Pink stories. Who I guess is quite the performer. My God. I mean, she does all her own, quote, stunt, right?

Yeah.

If you watch she's got a. Right now that she's got a brand new documentary that just came out on Netflix or Amazon.

Yeah.

And I just, I watched like the preview for it and she does like insane stunts where she's like spinning up over the whole arena. I mean, it's not like, it's not like a quick little jump off something. She's like in the harnesses, you know, spinning and doing tricks and it's. I don't even know how she gets insured for that. Can you imagine the insurance rider?

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. She is very. I went back and watched some of her stuff on YouTube after I listened to this podcast because of the stories that he was telling. She's really. Yeah. Some of the stuff she does like coming out of the ceiling and you know, he tells some stories about that as well. So make sure you guys, if you haven't go to. And. And it's. It came out this morning. Make sure you guys go to remarkable people.com and check it out because there's. It's just not like, you know, guy talks about. It's not about sex, drugs and rock and roll. It's. He's a really eloquent speaker and the things that they got into the weeds about is really fascinating about. And we're going to talk about some of those questions in a little bit. But we also want to make sure you guys know about guys. Ohana. So you know when these awesome podcasts come out.

That's right.

Join Shout out if you came from the text that you got at quarter two.

Yeah.

So make sure you guys go to 1-831-609-0628 and sign up for those reminders only for the US and Canada, I believe. Is that correct?

Sorry. Yep.

Yeah.

Yeah. Bummer, huh?

Not our. Not our fault. But that's not.

Well, you know, no service really has a lot of countries that kind of service. There's too many. There's too many laws for privacy from each country all over the world.

So.

Yeah, yeah.

Michael Jackson.

That would have been amazing.

Well, I got.

Wait, I'm gonna go get the drum that Mark sent me. One second.

Oh, cool. Yes. Megan, if you love Pink, you need to listen to this because there's a lot of some really cool behind the scenes. And I guess Guy's going to go get a drum because this was the drummer from Pink.

I think Adrian saw her. Adrian. Then you saw our guest. You saw Mark Drummond, because he's been.

But he also was the drummer for Cher. He's got a really cool story about Cher. Who else has he done it for?

Foreigner.

Foreigner. And Journey. And Journey. Didn't he?

Yeah. No, Journey was the one where they were redoing.

Oh, that's right.

It was the people from Journey. That's a different story.

Yes.

Yeah. So, yeah, just so many people. It's. Oh, Billy Idol.

He's very talented. So show it off, guy.

So he's a very high level.

Oh, that's cool.

Yep. And now Mark is like, no, that's not how you do that one.

Right.

Not bongos.

Nope.

At the end of the podcast, he plays the drums.

That's right.

I must admit, though, we weren't. I wasn't prepared for that. Well, nobody was prepared for that, so I can't tell you. It's at the highest sound quality, let me put it to you that way.

That was a little hard to edit.

Yeah. Listen to any of Pink live and that will be him.

And it was really interesting hearing him talk about his role, that he was a total supportive role and how that is. His job is to make the front runner, you know, showcase them, not himself. Very, very humble.

That's like how Peg and Jeff approach me.

Yep. Yep, it is. I spend a lot of time doing that.

You don't. You don't view your role as to make me look good.

I think I do that 24 7.

What are you talking about make you sound good.

Yeah, yeah, we do.

So here's another. Because he's a speaker, if you didn't know that. He does his motivational speakers and he talks about pivoting as well during the pandemic. And Guy and him, of course, showed off their tech stuff that they were using. Yeah. Let me go up full screen there. What's conquering life? Stage fright. Is that what it is? Okay.

Yeah.

Very, very cool.

Is it not focused?

There it is.

There it is. So stage fright could be a lot of different things. It could be from getting up and performing or for speaking, even for going live. A lot of people have it just for going live. So have you guys ever felt that before? Jeff and I are both theater people, so we've had various, you know, but I think all great performers or speakers or everybody gets that little excitement of butterflies, you know, you never know what's gonna happen. You never know. Like, are people gonna laugh? Yeah, if Jeff will remember the intro. You never know. Will your mouth.

You need some aloe for that burn.

She never. She never lets up. And really, it's horrible. But. But I. But I. I've talked about this before is. I. I mean, even before these live shows, I always get a little old butterfly hits you every time because you never know what's going to happen. And I think guys talked about this before, too, is that anybody tells you they're not scared about speaking or whatever is pretty much a liar. So, I mean, everybody gets nervous.

We talked about it a couple weeks ago or last week when we talked about speaking. But you can get it for all different things, even if it's just a presentation at work, a lot of people have just anxiety about that. Getting up in front of your peers. And now one of the hard things we talked about it on Erica's, which was last week, episode, when we talked about even, like, looking at yourself on zoom while you're talking. And you know, you're not looking at yourself, you're looking at your camera, but you know you're on camera. So there's all those kind of mental things that go with it, and you can totally get into your head. You have to flip that off and just keep going. Which rehearsal helps for that. Which for a live show, we have questions, but we don't exactly know what we're going to say. So.

Yeah.

Or what guys.

Or what someone else is going to say.

Yeah, that's what makes us nervous.

Depends if the intro reel plays or not. We got to see.

Oh, my gosh, it's Never going to end. Why do I even do this? Yeah, just light butterfly, says Tracy. So, yeah, I think, I mean, what is it?

I get moths.

I think what a lot of people, and I think you may have talked about this in the podcast, is taking that nervous energy and, and moving it to, you know, your performance. But he practices. I mean, Guy was even.

I think we had a question about that. Yeah, yeah, I think we had a question about rehearsing.

So this is a great question, Guy. Why is the stage fright coming from? Where is it coming from? And does it fade away with the experience?

I don't, I don't know where it comes from, but it's just getting psyched up. I mean, I bet you that, you know, before an Olympic, a swimmer jumps in the pool, you know, they probably got butterflies too. It's just in anticipation. For me, it ends about 10 seconds into the speech. And after that I am just in a zone. There are. Once I make, once I start a speech, I am totally in the zone and nothing can. Very few things can faze me at that point.

Do you use notes at all or is it all memorized for you guys?

No, it's. It's not memorized. Well, it is memorized. I don't use notes. But, you know, I'm a. I'm kind of a five trick pony, right? I've got five main speeches and I can give any of them without even looking at anything. But. But you know, it's kind of like asking Wayne Newton, can you sing Donker Shane without seeing the music? I'm sure Wayne Newton can.

But did you practice, like when you first started coming up with those five, did you like really rehearse and like, what are you gonna do with your hands and all that?

You know, I hate when people ask me this because I, at this point. Okay, seriously, at this point, let's say I was going to write a new speech, which is kind of a lie because every one of my speeches has a little bit from the past. But let's say it's a new speech, new title, new whatever, right? And so I make the 10 slides using Canva, of course, because Canva can Now make presentations 16 by 9 over hundreds and hundreds of templates. Anyway, end of Canva ad Canva, where I can't get my chest high enough there, Canva. And so now if you give me an hour, I can make a 10 slide canva presentation and I can give a keynote first time. I can just do it at this point. So, yeah, now Mark says that he rehearses his speech, did he say every day? It was something astronomical.

Four times a week, he said.

Yeah, yeah.

So it's like every other day, like.

When he's going for a walk or whatever. He just keeps going over it and changing it and making it perfect.

But I think I felt like he was rehearsing his tech too, because he's got a really high tech setup.

Yeah, well, that's why he's a rock star and I'm not. So.

Yeah, he's got a super high tech setup. Yeah, you do have certain mannerisms. Mannerisms guy. Like when you're doing a speech, when you get to, like, super into the zone, you'll go over and like, lean on the podium. When you're like deep in the zone and you're just like. You have, like, levels of, like, settling in. It's funny.

There's the ozone. There's the.

Yep.

So.

And you're just like, bring it on, everybody.

So is Q and A fall over?

If I did that, I'd be like, oh, you do?

Awesome. Do. Do you do Q A with yours guy as well?

You mean in person or. Actually both.

I do.

I. Q A is always a crapshoot, you know, because you just. First of all, the worst thing is nobody has a question. So then you gotta, like, you know, drag it out of somebody. And then inevitably, there's always someone who wants to start with the freaking moment he or she was conceived. Right. So I was conceived in, you know, the back seat of a 65 Mustang. And then I went to elementary school in Arlington, Texas, and then I went to tcu, where I was a horn frog and I was in the band. And then I got my MBA, then I went to work for Goldman Sachs, like 16 minutes later, what the hell is the question? And, oh, my God, it kills me. And then. And there are some questions that you just cannot answer, you know, like, unless there. Sometimes I start my answers with, I'm not your psychiatrist, but.

Right.

But I think that Q and A is kind of a good test of how well a speaker truly knows his or her subject.

Right. But a lot of times if you're doing a keynote, you don't have Q and A. Depends on the setup.

Right.

Q and A.

But I'm sorry, I would say in.

The media marketing world, there is a lot of times Q and A, and then there's hundreds of people in your room, and then there's people that run up, and those are tough. I always try to help people or I tell them, you know, come out in the hall later. But then later you get the people who send you direct message and they want, like, full consulting. I just saw you speak. Could you possibly redo my social strategy for me? And I'm like, I'm sorry. I was. I'm a speaker at the event and I gave my education at that point, and now, no, I will not do consulting. Sorry.

I would say that there is more downside in doing Q and A than upside. I think there's much more danger in doing Q and A than there is the upside of. You know, you're gonna have such an awesome Q and A. You're gonna leave the audience wanting more.

Right.

So I try.

Although I have. I have had people at Social Media Marketing World came up and said, I did everything that you told us to do last year, and it worked really well. And I'm like, amen. Like, that's the best Q A, Right?

But that's not Q A.

But then they add another, and now I'm wondering about blah. But it is nice when people acknowledge because. Oh, sorry. It's nice that people like that kind of thing where you're building their relationship with people. You have a different one guy. They usually come up and they go, I saw you speak in 1989 at blah blah Blah World. I just wanted to say it was great. And you're like. And then what are you supposed to say? You're like, it's 2020, dude. Like, you know, 21 now.

But we will say that we do like talking to people. We. We do like, we're not all. You know, it's. It's fun when people come talk. I want to. I want to bring up some comments. Megan says, I give it my all. And then I'm completely exhausted afterwards, especially as an amblovert. And then this was interesting from Shelly.

She goes.

Somebody who.

She means. She's like an extrovert. She's an introverted extrovert. Or an extroverted introvert. Ambivert is somebody who doesn't care one way or another. Yeah.

This is interesting from Shelley. She goes. She has been singing her whole life. She gets more butterflies talking to a few people, but less butterflies singing in front of giant crowds. But it all goes down. Yeah. So that's really interesting. So.

Because you practice before you sing.

Yeah, that's probably true.

So you never get up and sing without practice.

And we have some dancers, too. Same thing. I've been in the dance industry for 30 years. Always zone out as soon as the music starts.

See? Yeah, absolutely.

Let's See here some other questions. Oh, we got some more. Let's bring up this one. This is.

You know, I go into a zone in these live chats as soon as the introduction plays.

Oh, my God, this is just beat up Jeff Day. So one. I hit one wrong button. I'm running all these things. Let's see here.

Oh, this is the question every couple minutes now.

Yeah, I'll start counting down again. Take that. Have you ever messed up an important interview or audition? Maybe you have hit the wrong button at the beginning and just started talking instead of playing the intro like happened today. So have you ever messed up an important interview or audition?

Mark tells a great story about how he auditioned and he blew it and how that ultimately had a positive effect on his career because he was determined to never have that happen again.

So this is a teaser for next week's. But you tell a story that I hadn't heard about with Steve Jobs for next week when it was. I'm not gonna say it, but it's just. Stay tuned, because that was a good, good thing too.

Make sure you're subscribed.

Yeah, because that was when I hadn't heard before from guys.

Wait, which one Is it about the ad campaign?

Yeah, that one. Yeah. So that's interesting.

That's my $250 million story.

It's really. It's really good. Yeah. So that. Boy, this has really hit a lot of people. Have they ever messed up an important interview or audition? We got tons of comments. So Tracy said, failed miserably. What did you fail at, Tracy? What was the. What was. I'm hitting C. I'm all flustered now today because everybody's yelling at me.

Jeff is not in the zone today.

I am not there. Take that off. There we go. Failed miserably is what Tracy said. So. And a lot of people are saying, just like Angelica, I have. So I think we all have. If you've been in the business for.

A while, I think the way that people have to interview now is crazy. You know, the process even before the pandemic, just like you're sending in something digital, then, you know, you have so many interviews before you even get a job these days. I would be like, you know, okay, we need you to come for an eighth interview. We got a team that's gonna, you know, blah, blah. I would be like, you know what? I think I'm good.

And as if that yields better results. Right?

I don't think it does. I think people spun off of Google's really hard questions and I feel like Google kind of started that. Do you think that guy with those hard interviews, this is like, how many.

Manhole covers are the United States?

I don't know. Well, did your son have to go through that when he was a, he was a Google. He went to friends and family.

Yeah, I don't know. I.

No, it didn't, didn't. Nick. Nick was a Google intern.

Yeah, I don't really, I will tell you, I don't, I don't know the answer to those questions, you know, because I'm such a involved parent. But I will tell you that both, both of those kids have told me that. And they work at now Google and ebay. So my sons, if you added up all their big brand name experience, have worked at Google, ebay, Looker, and Apple. And I will tell you that. Salesforce. Yeah, yeah. And I've asked them, has anybody ever, in any interview, ever asked you your gpa? And the answer is no.

No, no.

Doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah.

So on this.

Don't study any of you out there.

That's not the message.

So guy. So I want to ask this for you because if you get nervous about some of, I mean, you are interviewing high profile guests like Jane Goodall and, you know, some of these, you know, I mean, some of you've known for a while, but. But also, like at south by Southwest, you're. You're up on stage sometimes, you know, interviewing people like Mark Cuban and those kind of folks. Does the status of the individual make you nervous anymore or is that completely over for you?

I wouldn't say it's completely over. You know, I still get butterflies every time, but I have my theory. It's funny because I. In a week, I'm interviewing Dr. Leanna Wen. She's the doctor that you always see on CNN whenever they want to talk about COVID and epidemics and that kind of stuff. And so she was just interviewed on npr. And, you know, whenever I hear that, my goal is that my goal in every podcast interview is that the guest at some point says, either, wow, you really did a lot of research, or. Or they say, you asked me the best questions of any interviewer. That is my goal. When that happens, I just feel so fulfilled. Like John M. Chu, future guests. I asked him a question. He said, wow, you guys really did a lot of research. I asked him why 33 was his favorite number. Let's just say most people have not asked him that.

Well, you get that a lot, though. You get a lot of people going, no one's ever asked me that question. And I think that's a sign of, you know, a good interview.

Well, that's because some dumbass intern has printed out the Wikipedia entry and said, okay, here's Jane Goodall's Wikipedia entry. You're on in 30 seconds. So, Gene, what was it like to be in Africa? Duh.

It was jungle.

It was jungle. Yeah. Was it hot? Yeah.

Yeah. I just wondered if, like. Because I know I have a feeling, like, you would have some butterflies if you got Michelle Obama on to interview.

I would. I don't think I could get a sentence out if it was Michelle Obama.

You underestimate me.

Okay, you might, but you would still inside be fangirling over Michelle Obama. Come on.

Michelle Obama. You know, But I will tell you, if anybody's out there listening and is, you know, totally connected with these kind of people, if somebody said you could have anybody in the world today, I probably would ask for Stacey Abrams. I think she saved democracy, I really.

Do, in our country, for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So let's go to our other question. If I can hit the right button.

Because I'm, you know, if anybody are bff. Anybody out there, BFF with Stacey Abrams, I will be your best friend for life. I will send you free books. I'll send you Merge for socks. I will send you a MacBook Air M1. I will have Jeff will shave his beard if you give me an interview with Stacy.

I don't know about that.

Cut off her hair.

So here's the. Here's a good question.

Some of those things will happen, and that will not be my hair or Jeff's beard. But you can get books, socks, and guy's eternal gratitude, which is remarkable.

Tablet.

I will.

I will personally review your PowerPoint or the wrong word. I will review your Canva pitch. I will. Remember how in the old days used to say I would kiss your ass in the middle of Times Square? That's just not correct anymore, is it?

But you said it, so I know.

I'm just saying it's not right. You shouldn't say that anymore.

But what we should say. Let's go to this question. So Peggy and I have talked about this before because I think we both have worked for people who don't have a service mentality. They have you. What is that the baker or the. What is the eater? The eater. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people have an eater mentality, and we've all worked for those types of people. So this is a question to our audience. Have you adopted a service mentality? Or do you have a good example of somebody who has adopted a service mentality? I think that's a great question. And they talk about this in the podcast because unfortunately, a lot of people do have that eater instead of the baker. You know.

We should explain that metaphor.

Yeah, I'm hungry, though, so.

Yeah, yeah, use pie.

So the baker versus eater theory is that some people are eaters and they, as an eater, you're thinking, oh, if I don't eat quickly, if I don't eat as much as I can, somebody else will get it, Somebody else will eat more, you know, so it's a zero sum game. If I don't eat it, you will. If you eat it, I won't. So it's that kind of thing. A baker, by contrast, is a person who believes that they can make more pies and more cookies and more cakes so everybody can get the sweetness. And so, you know, I, I just generally think that people who are successful and people who are happy are bakers, not eaters.

Yeah, what about you guys in the audience? So let's see.

I think that is like an. I don't know how new it is, but that is a new wave of leadership is that they're saying that leaders, better leaders are in service to their, to the people underneath them versus bossing them around. I've read quite a few things lately about successful leaders having the service mentality towards just helping everybody succeed. You, as a, as a leader, you should 100 be an eater. I mean, a baker, not just an eater. Because you want everybody to succeed. And it's. I think that's hard for people because everybody doesn't have that maybe built in automatically, but it's definitely something that you can work on and be cognizant of and work towards having a service mentality. If you work in social media and you're creating content, you know, try to think how you're serving your community. Like, when we're talking about the podcast, we try to share something interesting that you guys would say, oh, that's so cool. That will definitely connect with me. You know, we're talking about stories about stage fright or, you know, what it's like to be at a rock star stage or to be on tour, which is the. Something that a lot of people don't get to do, obviously. So it's really cool to hear about it. So think about, like in, in what you're doing, how you can translate that service mentality to be more successful.

Speaking of service.

Oh, go ahead.

Speaking of service mentality, Last week we made an impassioned pitch for people to review this podcast on Apple and we got one. So does that mean the system is broken or only one person likes our podcast?

Well, I think it's a mixture of Apple. I still even got some more emails this week about still glitches over there. But if you do enjoy this podcast, at remarkablepeople.com, make sure you guys go and leave us a rating and review, because it does make a huge difference and we want to make sure that it's working. So go there. If you haven't done it, we ask you if you would do that for us. We'd appreciate it. Yes, maybe.

Maybe we should cut the middleman out and just ask people to send us comments via email. Because it cannot be that from June to August, only one person wanted to write a view that is just.

I would really like it if they would go and do it at Apple because if they send us an email, we can't add it ourselves.

Yeah, but we could read it on air.

Yeah, we could. I was trying to go. I was going to go because we said we were going to read the one that we got.

Yeah. So if you can bring that, I want to bring up some comments. Oh, this is nice. So I love you three together. That's sweet. So Peter says, does service mentality not start with value creation first?

That's a deep question.

We'll get back to you on that. Peter.

This is why you shouldn't do Q and A.

Huh?

Well, I mean, if you are servicing somebody, you're definitely creating value. And if you create value, you're servicing somebody. You could make the argument that they're just flips, you know, two different size of the coin. It's heads or tails. Feel free to bring back the other people in this podcast. There you go.

Okay, so I just found our comment last week.

You mean the one person in the one person on the Internet who likes the podcast?

Yeah, Our favorite listener, OSX Girl said so much passion. 5 stars Jumping in at the end of the show left me with a smile. I love technology and the story of Guy and Apple. Thanks for talking about the Mac Mail bounce back feature. And then she did some emojis. So you can also do emojis. I actually never really think about doing emojis on there. But please go to Apple and leave us a review because it really does help other people find the podcast.

Yeah, it does. So we asked about you guys.

Say you love it. You say you love it. So are you.

Why don't you play the intro. Play the 30 second intro, Jeff. And then people can have 30 seconds to go. Leave a comment and we'll just wait.

Well, well if you really want me to, I will, but I don't know effective that would be for a live stream. So let's see. Michelle says over a decade ago Guy was my featured guest. Oh, I gotta take that off at on national radio show. Let's talk business. That's very, very cool.

I hope I was good.

Yeah. So, so this is what Peter meant. He says value creation. What I mean is it almost feels like we get so carried away with providing a service and everything under the sun we forget the value that they crave.

I always try to provide value. That's one of the core things is you know, educating, entertaining.

Right.

So I always keep those in mind.

Informing, inspiring and I think just, I'm not trying to blow smoke but I think Guy does a great job with this like on his, even his posts and even bringing us up on screen. I mean the people behind the scenes, he's bringing us up. He's not like trying to hog all the spotlight. Of course I can turn him off because I'm controlling the camera. But, but I mean Hank and I both worked for people before where they won't even like we'll be on a show and they won't even mention us in the post later. I mean I never understand that kind of mentality and I think when we're talking about the baker versus the eater, I think Guy really is a good example of that.

Friggin baker baby. I'm the. I am like the Pillsbury Doughboy, baby.

That's my patron saint right there.

Saint. So you know, you know I was thinking about this. Maybe we should ask our transcribers to come on too.

That would be fun.

That would be five of us. Heads would explode.

That would be a lot.

Yeah, yeah.

So. Oh, we got Angela saying definitely going to write a guest review on Apple. Let us know like if you do that, email us because I want to see how long it takes to surface. Yeah, like as soon as you write it, say hey and just copy and paste what you wrote. That way we'll, we make sure it's not lost of all your hard work and we'll read that next week. But I want to know when you actually posted it and then when it shows up in Apple because I think that would be a good experience.

Don't we have to give them an email address?

Well, you always do I think. Isn't it Guy that.

You can send it to any of them. It's guyanva.com or Guy Kawasaki Mail. We should get, you know, we should be like a professional organization and get like info@remarkable people.com or something, you know. Yeah.

And, and, and Peg has put it in the Facebook post as well. Where to go. So very, very cool.

I was trying to do in LinkedIn but started playing. So I'll put it in LinkedIn afterwards if you need it.

Oh, you could put the. I created a Google Doc about how to post a Apple podcast comment because, like, lots of people didn't realize and I didn't that you have to be signed in to do it. Right. There's like some complexity. It's not trivial, which I don't understand. God forbid there's too much interaction. Right. So I don't get it.

Yeah. So there's somebody who wrote if they need to put it on Apple, that would be the best place. But also send us an email as well. So I appreciate you guys doing that. So.

Yeah, or leave a comment and on here we'll see it there too. Yeah, I look at the comments later.

So here's another question. If you're a speaker, how much. And we kind of answered this. How much do you practice your speeches? I know Guy doesn't anymore. He's got his five, but Peg, how much do you practice? Like when you go to Social Media Marketing World, which you mentioned before, how often do you practice?

Well, I create unlike I do. I'm different than Guy. I create a different speech for everything that I do because I'm usually teaching how to do something in particular. And I always want to have the latest and the newest and then of course my own original ideas in there. So I create something new. I do use Canva as well to create custom presentations. And so I, I kind. That's part of the practicing is like I'm just going through it a lot while I'm making it. And then I'm always like stopping and going through it to check is the order good? Am I teaching enough? If I. Sometimes you put too much stuff in. And that actually is also bad because people can only remember one or two, maybe three things from your whole speech that you really want to nail something and they're good. And then I will go over it. I have to say, I never like, record myself. I never time myself, which could always. That could bite me in the behind sometimes. But I usually can make it always fit exactly where it needs to go. I kind of keep my eye on the time I love when you do a speech or presentation. There's a timer there so you can see how much time you have left versus the person with a card. Like 10 minutes. And then I'm like, okay, wrapping it up. But so I practice it as I'm making it and I practice while I'm doing it. I go over a lot. I do not memorize it, but I don't read off my slides. My slides are like an overview and then I add all the points unless it's like screenshots or something like that. So probably in the whole creation process, I don't even know. It's probably like for a one hour thing. It's probably, I swear, like 15 hours of creation time. It seems like a lot. And practicing it is. Yeah, because I'm like, because I'm looking up. It's like almost writing a chapter in a book because I'm writing like 10 ways that you can use Pinterest for Google, you know, to get in the top of Google search. So that's very specific. So I have to do a lot.

Of research and, and so what I.

Find examples and what about you, Jeff?

So what I do now is I use and I love this for my podcast. And if you are not thrilled with the podcast app that you're using, I use Overcast, which I really, really like to listen to like guys podcasts and subscribe to other ones. But it has a feature for their pro plan which allows you to upload to it. And so I upload my. I usually record my talk before I go to like social media marketing world or whatever. And then I listen to it like on the plane and I mean I even have some of my jokes in there and stories and stuff. And so it just helps me feel more comfortable because I'm kind of auditory learner and that's what I do.

Yeah, Say I'm a visual learner. I'm a combination, but visual is my highest. So I like to see the presentation while I'm making it.

Right.

So listening to it would annoy me.

I get sick of myself. But it's the only way that really helps me memorize. I mean, or get the flow. I don't memorize it either, but I get the flow because I have a lot of stories in mind. So I'm going to show you a useful tool. Oh, cool.

This is a $25 thing I bought on Amazon. So you see this?

Yeah.

So this is something you just, you know, turn this thing and so let's say, you know, you have to be on for, I don't know, 30 minutes. And then this is huge. It's, you know, probably 7 inches diameter. And so out of the. Out of your peripheral vision, you can see the red going down to zero. So you know how to time yourself. This is when you do a virtual keynote. So this, I find, is very useful. Rather than trying to squint and find a clock or.

Right.

Looking at the time, you'd have to do a calculation.

Right.

So if you start at 10:15, you have half an hour. You need to figure out, okay, so it's now 1043. How much does that leave me? And you have to do math. This is just. Okay, so the rate is getting less and less and less. It's time to go down. It's getting time to wrap up guy. And this is very useful thing. It's like $25 on Amazon.

You can also hang it around somebody's neck. I was gonna say he could hang it on somebody's neck in the front row, like, when he goes. Does live things again.

So I could have somebody like, you know how they have boxing matches. Somebody walks around the ring and they have this girl.

Yeah.

So it could be a. It's a ring person.

Yeah.

I have a little teeny timer that's, like, probably that big that does have a countdown thing on it, but I don't know where it is at the moment. But mine's small, and it has a little. It can do a countdown thing on it.

Yeah, but you have to go. You have to go set. 10 minutes. Right. So all I have to do is turn this knob one way or the other. I mean, that is.

That's cool. So we have a great question from Jonathan. He goes, I found that reading Dr. Seuss books before a presentation puts me in a chipper mood. What trick do you have to pep up your. Before you do your talk? Do you have any, like. Do you listen to Music Guy? What do you do to get ready? Or in the zone?

Cbd.

Really? No, I'm kidding.

I eat mushrooms.

No, just surreal.

Oh, my gosh. We're off the rails.

I listen to gospel music. I'm kidding.

Okay, there's the power pose. Some people say that doing the power pose, especially if you're a woman, is supposed to help, like, do, like, a superwoman or Superman pose. And you're just like.

And.

Yeah. And then you look in the mirror and you say, God darn it, you're worth it. You can do this.

I listen to the Trump. I listen to the Trump inaugural speech. And I said, God damn it, I'm better than the President.

So what I do, for real is I. And we talked about this a couple weeks ago, is I go talk to people and in the audience. So say how you're doing, where you from? And the guy talked, you know, does this and Peg does this. But one, it does. It forces me. I don't worry about what's coming up because I'm talking to somebody, you know, it's taking my mind off what's coming. And I also feel like I'm building. And they're excited to talk with me, so they're liking talking to me, so I get some good feedback that way. And then I go and do the presentation.

So anyway, is a speaker. When you're walking down the hall and you're going up to your room and there's a huge, huge line of people, you're just like, oh, my God. Like, thank God there's people that are here, number one. But then I do like to say, like, thanks for coming. I'm like, even before I go in. And then they're like, is that her? Is she gonna. Like, they don't really know. Sometimes they don't know who you are yet, but that's the point. But.

And then you find out they're overfill for the current session. They're not waiting for you, right?

Then you're like, well, you can wait. You could come. They're like, interest, nah.

Or you're. You're circulating with the audience and they say, oh, your book. Rich dad, poor dad changed my life.

So Anthony says he takes a small shot of cognac before he goes. He's just kidding. But, yeah, nothing like being drunk before you speak.

Some people like to do a lot of caffeine or, like, energy drinks. But for me, that is a no bueno because I'm so kind of hyper anyway. And I feel like that would just set me, like, I would probably be on stage going like, oh, my God, you guys, guess what? I'd be like, wait, yeah, right? I haven't been. I haven't been drinking. I haven't had caffeine in, like, two months.

So Peter says you could do. See the whole eminem scene from 8 Mile before the first rap battle guy. He wants you to do that before you. When you go live.

So I don't even know what he's talking about. Eminem, a kind of candy it is.

But there's also a rap star, so he's a rapper.

And eight Mile is where he lived in Detroit?

Yeah.

Eight miles.

I thought that's where the nuclear reactor melted down.

That was something else.

Yes.

That was three months.

Oh, wow. We have gone off. So we have. That's our last question. Let's see. How do you connect with an audience when you're speaking? Guy.

I, I, I, I do that. You know, I go up to the audience before many, many speakers. They got this dumbass attitude about, you know, they need to focus and be removed. And I, I've heard of, I talk to event planners all the time. And there are some people who have in their contract no one can make eye contact with, you know, whoever. No one can come into the speaker ready room. No one can say anything to him or her. No one can make eye contact. It's like such total. And so I do quite the opposite. I don't give a shit. I'll talk about anything. I'm like, you know, I'll sign books, I'll take selfies. I'll do whatever you want. I don't care. So that's how I try to connect.

The first time I met you at south by Southwest, you were taking pictures of people taking pictures of you.

Yeah, that was the thing for a while. Sometimes I like to do a selfie from the stage. I like to just turn around and put out like, okay, you guys, I'm just gonna do a little quick, like. And people are super excited to be in that. So that's kind of fun.

That really works.

Yeah.

I also have, I.

Go ahead.

Oh, wait, my wife is calling. You guys Take this for a while.

Okay.

Hi, Beth.

So I, I actually Kerry Washington did that at blog her one time and then like, I'm in one of Kerry Washington's selfies.

Oh, that's cool.

My friend Michelle K are like, right in the front. So I thought that was kind of fun. So it is a good icebreaker and people kind of think it's fun and then you share it later. And people are like, oh my gosh, I'm in her picture or his picture. It's nice. It's a good community connector. So you smile so it like breaks your, like, if you are a little nervous, you'll be like, smiling. Yeah, smiling makes you less nervous.

And you can show it to your mom afterwards. Like, really, Mom, I've made it look all these people come see me.

Doesn't really think I have.

But what, so, but what do you do? Do you anything? Like, you know, a lot of people talk about a hook in your speech at the beginning. Do you tell a joke? Do you do something self effacing or you, what do you do, Guy?

I, I will give you a story that I guarantee will work. Okay? There are a few guarantees in life. There's death, there's taxes at this story. So now you have to be invited to something where you can credibly say it's kind of an honor. So that's a caveat, right? So there are many times where I start a speech, I say, you know, never in a million years did I think I would ever be keynoting this IBM conference or this Microsoft conference, or speaking to all the million million dollar roundtable insurance agents or speaking to, you know, you get the picture, right? So it's got to be some prestigious group, TEDx, Berkeley, you know, whatever. Never in a million years that I think. So last night I told my wife, you know, honey, can you believe it? I am the keynote speaker for IBM. Never in my wildest, I mean in your wildest dreams did you ever think your husband would be the keynote speaker for IBM Developer World. And you know what my wife said to me? She said, honey, you're not in my wildest dreams. Works every time. Works every time.

What about you, Peg? Do you have a goatee? What do you do? That's a good one. But now everybody's going to use that because guy does.

Yeah, I'll say my, I'll say mine. It's not as good as guys, but mine is. I usually start out by saying that my name is Peg Fitzpatrick. And then I say, if you like it, please tweet me at Peg Fitzpatrick. If you don't like it, my name is Peg Fitzgerald. And just make sure you use the mention for that.

That's good, that's good.

So. But other people have already stolen that one because the thing is, people get Fitzpatrick Patrick wrong all the time. It seems like a very easy name, but people get Fitzpatrick wrong constantly. So it's just kind of like a joke about my name.

It's no worse than Kiyosaki versus Kawasaki. That's true.

It's true. I've started new jobs and like my mailbox would say Fitzgerald.

Yeah.

And I would be like, no. Remember back when we had mailboxes at work?

Yes. The days I usually go, I usually go and say something like, you know, when I first come up on stage because I say, I know you guys are thinking like, oh my gosh, a personal trainer or a lumberjack, but no, I'm a computer guy and that's usually breaks because I'm a little rotund as well. You can't tell, but I say, oh, you think I'm a personal trainer? No, I'm just a normal guy, just like you.

A lumberjack. I can see.

You know what? You should start your speeches, Jeff. Okay, Jeff, I have the solution for you. Start your speeches dressed as Santa.

I have done a video back in the day of where I was. I was the elf on the shelf. That's pretty scary. You want to frighten children and just never. You have to. You burn into your retinas. You can find that somewhere.

But there's the one where you were a turkey.

Yeah, I have that one, too. That was baby beard. I call and I call, and Peg usually comes to my live speeches because we're usually at the same conference. And I always call her my BBFs, my before beard friend, because she knew me back before I had a beard.

Really? You have a chin.

It's. Yeah, this is all fake. I glue it on every morning. All right, we are at the end of our time. Thank you guys for tuning in. And we have gone off the rails. But talk about this week's podcast and then tease next week because it's amazing.

Two things, two takeaways. Though, before we start anything else, listen to this week's podcast and leave us a review, please. Leave us a review, please, and subscribe so you don't miss next week's guest.

Or just everybody get one person to listen to this episode. Yep. Because there's probably. There's probably 10,000 people listening to this. Right? So if everybody got one person. Wow, that would make my day. Yeah. Yeah.

And don't forget about the ohana as well, guys. Okay, Text group and sign up so you get reminded about.

What do we have next week, gang?

Oh, my gosh.

So excited.

Holy.

It was a good episode. If you have not if watch in the Heights and Crazy Rich Asians. Because they talk about that a lot. So if that's your homework, if you haven't seen that yet, and if you.

Haven'T watched in the Heights yet, you are in for a total treat. Is my favorite. Jeff is so sick of me talking about it. I listen to the music all the time, and I switch between the Broadway and the movie because there's some songs that I like better in each one.

I gotta tell I love I am a crazy rich Asian. I love crazy rich. It's just, you know, like some people say, oh, guy, aren't you afraid of it? Foster's the stereotype of Asians. I don't give a. I loved crazy rich Asians. Like, I had a whole new. Oh, my God. It was, you know, best movie I've seen since Never say Never.

I have to see if I can find it. But when that book came out. Yeah, it was. I got it. And I was on a trip out to see you.

That's what you were preparing for our meeting?

I was. I was preparing to come to Atherton.

Crazy rich Asians has just got so many Asian stereotypes. Just so freaking perfect, man. And, oh, when that. When the. When the tiger mom is on the phone with Nick Fielding's character, whatever, and she's worried that he's coming to the wedding because he. She's. You know, who is he bringing in? Her, like, Bible study group is all concerned about who he's bringing. And I swear the best line in the movie is where she, like, puts down her cell phone, puts a. Puts her cell phone away and says, you guys go on to Corinthians. I'll catch up. Oh, my God, that. Holy shit. I don't know how people come up with lines like that. I just.

And there's just. Like, this week, there's tons of behind the scenes, great stories that if you haven't listened to the episode that dropped today, make sure you do that and then sign up for like we talked about. So you get it when you get a reminder that a new podcast episode is dropped, because next week has tons of behind the scenes, really interesting stories.

If you know anybody who wants to be in movies, actor, actress, director, whatever, they have got to listen to the next episode. Yeah, absolutely.

It's a great.

Or if you just like movies, which is.

Yeah.

So many people.

Or if you know anybody Asian who drives a German car. I mean, that's good. Enough.

With that, everybody. Thank you so much for watching and listening. Go to remarkable people.com. sign up for everything on that give us a rating review. And with that, Peg, I'll let you sign us off.

Really?

Bye, everybody. Thanks for coming. This is. Got nothing else.

Clack and pig. Clack and pig.