Remarkable People Behind the Podcast: How to Change Your Habits

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Good morning. It's a guy Kawasaki. I am in Watsonville, California, and welcome to the Remarkable People podcast live show. This week's guest was BJ Cobb, and he is a professor at Stanford. Although he lives in Maui and surfs every day. I don't know how he pulled that off. And this is a show that if you want to figure out how to develop and keep going with good habits, this is the show for you. So I will tell you that he has made me have a new habit with, which is every night when I take off my contact lenses and throw them away because I have disposables. That is the tiny habit trigger for me. Putting my phone in a charger in another room from where I sleep so that I don't use my phone at night. That's my tiny habit that has been established by BJ Cobb, and for that, I thank him. So what'd you guys think, Peg and Jeff?

Well, it's fog.

A fog. Fog cob. You know, baseball player, professor.

So actually, when actually that we were doing the countdown, somebody popped right in while it was still going and said, tonight, I'll place my iPhone in the bathroom to charge while I recharge. Thanks for inspiring the change, guys. So that really struck a nerve with a lot of people. So very, very cool.

So I. Did I have any new habits from this?

Yeah.

Yes. My one that I picked up. And you know, one thing we're talking about this book.

Let me go full screen.

There it is. There's the book. There's a big list in the back of all different things that you could choose. Shoes. Tiny Habits for a better sleep. Tiny Habits for new managers. So I started in the 100 ways to celebrate and Feel Shine. I love that section, which I think we have a question on that. But I like to do. The one that I picked up is every morning when my feet hit the ground, I say, today is going to be a great day. And I love the habits because they're just. They're so positive and starting your day off. And guy does one at the end of his day. There's just different times of the day when you can just give yourself that, like, permission to, like, sleep well, you know, not worry about things or just start off the day, you know, saying, today's gonna be a great day. It does make a difference. It really does.

Yeah.

So that was the first one that I picked up from him.

So for me, the what I have done, I do. It's gonna be a great day, too. The first time my feet hit the floor. But then I do. I tell myself I'm just gonna do two push ups and I end up doing more. But it really has. So last year, one of the books I read was Atomic Habits, which is a big, famous book. But I like this because the way he did the small habits and puts it in a chain of, like, events to do, I think makes a huge difference, like Guy was saying on the podcast today. So make sure if you haven't gone yet, to go to remarkablepeople.com and download this episode. Check it out. We'd love for you guys to follow us over on your favorite podcast player and also leave us a rating and review because it really does help us out. So we'd love for you guys to do that. So go ahead.

Oh, oh. Just FYI, if people are thinking, wow, Jeff, big deal, two push ups. The tiny habit is to do a minimum of two push ups. You don't have to stop at two, Jeff. Probably like firing off 200 every time. Yeah, exactly.

That's what I'm doing. But so you end up doing more. But if you just, you trick your mind to saying, I'm just gonna, you know, I'll just do two, you know, and then if I feel like it, and then you always do feel like it and you do more, and then it kind of goes up incrementally. So very, very cool. Here's our icebreaking, ice breaking icebreaker question for today. Did you make any New Year's resolutions? Guy, did you make any New Year's resolutions this year?

I resolved that. When am I editing this podcast? I would not delete words, but I would silence them.

That's. That is a perfect resolution that everybody should follow and not shorten word gaps. That's the thing. So.

And I'm gonna always leave a few ums and uhs in the podcast. Yes.

And all the laughter.

Yes.

So the interesting thing about New Year's resolutions, I don't make resolutions because I think mostly they fail. And at this point, I put that question in specifically because we're right at the point where if people made a New Year's resolution at this point, if they haven't done it, they're going to quit doing it because it's like that three weeks. So tiny habits is a better way than one time of year making this thing that's too hard that you're not going to do. So you take a tiny habit and you change. You work it into your behavior, into something that you're doing, and then instead of thinking it's going to be this big thing, like I'm going to do this or you know, like big crazy things that people try to do. You know, doing a small habit and working it into your behavior, as he tells us in the book, really does lead to change. Small habits lead to big change. What is the small habit? The small changes that change everything. That's the subtitle for the book.

Not necessarily because of BJ but also because of BJ and Catherine Price. I have started a new habit which is after five, I don't send people email. I schedule them for next the next morning at 8. On the weekends, I don't send people email. I schedule it for Monday morning at 8.

So.

I don't know. I hope that improves people's lives.

Yeah. Now we just need somebody smart who's listening to code. It make some kind of app so you can put your texts in and then have the text send during certain hours because you can mute and you can do certain things but sometimes if you don't forget to turn them back on, it's like, you know.

Yeah.

So yeah, like doing like a work hour text message app.

So if you are watching this live with us, we would like. Oh, go ahead. Sorry, I didn't see. I didn't hear what you said, guy.

That I was like. Right. I mean it makes sense.

Yeah, it does. So if you guys are watching this live, we'd love for you. If you guys made resolutions who are watching us, just drop them in the comments and let us know what your resolution is. If you are watching the replay, you know, a great place where you can actually put that like your New Year's resolution. As in our community, you go to remarkable people community at circle. And here's our little URL. You go to Bit Ly Remarkable People Circle. That's Bit Ly Remarkable People Circle. Join in there and tell us what kind of resolution or do you even make resolutions? We would love to know and we'd love to for you guys to join our community.

About five years ago, I made two resolutions that I have largely stuck to which is I don't eat french fries and I will not drink an entire can or cup of Coke or Diet Coke. Now I would say in the last five years maybe I've had he added them all up. Two orders of fries and maybe five Cokes. But I used to have a lot more. I used to love fries and Cokes. So I cut out diet Cokes, cooking Cokes and French fries from my diet. I don't feel any better or have lost any weight.

So do you have all these, these half drunk Diet Cokes around your office now? Do you mean are they just like.

Sometimes I just, just have a craving for diet Coke or Coke. And then sometimes I'm so hungry and my kids are there and you know, they ordered cheeseburgers and French fries and I just, I cannot resist. But largely I have never ordered something. I've never ordered a French fry in about five years. I've scarfed off others, but I haven't ordered any.

They don't count if you, if you eat them off other people.

I also, I don't count onion rings as French fries. Okay, Just.

They're not.

And not calamari either.

Oh, calamari is good too.

Do you remember the days when you could go get the ice cold Coca Cola from the machine with the glass bottles? That was the best Coke ever made. It was cold. The bottle, the glass makes it like frosty flip off the top.

Do you remember the ones made in Mexico with Mexican sugar or some kind of.

It was sugar cane. It was something that was like whatever.

Yeah, I don't think we had them on.

So at the grocery store that I grew up in, that I used to work at, they had, remember the old bottle dispensers where you would open up that little really narrow door and pull out a bottle of ice cold Coke.

I was talking about you it out from the slot and. So cool.

We're so old.

You know what? My, my new drink. What you say I have a new drink. I have a new drink and I'm not even sponsored or paid to say this, but I have tried to get my family off of plastic bottled water because there really is nothing worse for the world than a bottle of plastic water or plastic bottle of water, right? So now I know that in the best case you would just take tap water, put it in your hydro flask and there'd be no pollution. But I'm not there yet. However, I told my wife, okay, so let's start drinking Lacroix. And. And, but she doesn't like flavored water. And hint only comes in plastic bottles. And so I went on Amazon, which is my default search engine. I don't use Google or Bing anymore. I just go straight to Amazon and I, you know, I search for regular water in cans or something like that. And lo and behold, there is a thing called liquid death. I'm not kidding you now. Liquid death. If you go on Amazon, everybody or I can hear Alexa find liquid death. Now, everybody who's listening to this On Alexa. They're all going to anyway, so. So the Liquid Death can looks like a real ipa. Hardcore brew. Right? There's. There's a white one, which is flat, and there's a black one. The black Liquid Death is fizzy, but it is water. And so I think the marketing, which I consider genius. The marketing is if you're a kid or you want to go to a party and look like you're having a beer and joining in, you drink Liquid Death. And most people would look at that can and say, my God, that looks like a great beer. And no one would know you're drinking water. Liquid.

That is good.

Mark heard it here. Liquid Death.

I gotta check it out. It just. It does sound amazing. So as we were talking, we got some great comments coming in. Alan says he is buying the book. Now, I know BJ Fogg is very happy that you're doing that. And then Midori says this. She goes, the rubber band trick works wonders for replacing bad habits. Is that when you snap yourself? Is that when you. Like when you're trying to quit smoking? You whack yourself? Man, that's a little brutal.

So how do you wire your jaw shut when you see a French fry?

Yeah. And so Alan also says positive self talk is so important. Another important new book is called Chatter. And I haven't checked that one out.

I haven't seen that one.

I love getting new book ideas, though, so. Yeah, so a lot of people are saying, like Brian saying no caffeine, no substances at all is super smart. Yeah. Try out the Liquid Death.

What do you mean, no substances at all?

I think it means, like, just like water and not coffee or that kind of stuff.

Oh, because you got to have some substances.

Yeah.

You just die. So Jonathan, our friend Jonathan over on LinkedIn says he set some reading goals for 2022. I'm trying to consume 50 to 70 books this year. That's almost like. That's almost like peg level right there.

I didn't read that many last year. I read a lot, though. Jonathan, I'd love to know if you're on Goodreads. We can connect on there. I like to put my Goodreads book goal in there and scan. You can. I love the app. You can, like scan your books. It puts them right in there for you.

So how many books guy do you read? Because you do it for all. Do you read multiple books per guest or do you just read their latest one?

No, I just read the latest one. Okay, but that means you, you know, kind of a minimum of 52 a year.

Right.

Yeah, but I, you know, it. I don't want to give the impression that I read word for word every page. I'm reading for subjects to ask questions about, which is different than, you know, reading a novel.

Yeah, I like to read novels too though. I like to alternate.

Yeah, I have to. I have to have a fix. I have a fiction one going in a non fiction. Like I'm reading Pink's book that he's coming up. Not. I'm not reading his most recent one that's coming out. But when his book called When?

You mean that Pink is a woman?

Yeah, Pink. The Daniel Pink. Yeah, I shortened it.

We had her drummer.

Yeah, we did.

We had her drummer and we had the Daniel Pink. Yeah, we're having Daniel.

Come on. Coming up. Yeah, it's really good episode. Julius says this, he says Liquid Death is a canned water company founded by Mark Cicero. Its tagline is murder your thirst. It's sold in a 16.9 US tall boy drink can. Australian Alps is where it comes from. And canned Austrian.

Austrian.

Austrian. Oh, okay. Austrian. Yeah, Very cool. That is awesome.

I don't think Austria has any Alps.

Well, you know, they don't have any tennis players either.

Oh, okay. Before we go there, let's go.

Seriously, let's just go off the deep end here. Don't you think that is the most dumbass thing?

Oh, that.

I mean that he got sent back.

I think everybody didn't get vaccinated. What a dumb ass. I don't.

Yeah, yeah. At this point. Come on. Everybody should be vaccinated.

Yeah, I agree.

If it was, millions of people would already have problems.

Get your booster too, is what I'd say. Get your booster.

I think I have avoided too successful, like direct contact.

Oh yeah.

Because I have two vaccines and a booster. I got like really mild symptoms.

What's really. What's really lagging that I've been reading is that kids, because my wife's a teacher. You know, a lot of them have been the first round, but they haven't got their booster yet. And I think they just recently approved it for older kids, if I'm right. So, yeah, important. So this is a great habit. Get vaccinated. But the last habit. What's the last habit you tried to create?

Like, we just lost our five Serbian subscribers to this podcast.

I just. My last habit was trying to catch every time when you could get free Covid tests. So far I got a hundred percent success rate.

I just signed up for the testing kits just to have them that they just.

Yeah, from the government. And then our state actually did some, too.

So I posted. I posted the U.S. postal Service website where you can. Is it free tests or free masks? I forget which one I did.

They're doing.

Ma. They're coming out with masks. They haven't released those yet. But the. The website to get the free tests just rolled out today. They did a pretest yesterday, and that's when I signed up. And then today is the main rollout for the.

Get four free tests to your household.

And then masks are rolling out to schools. They're gonna be in, like, Walgreens and stuff, where you got your vaccination supposedly by the end of this month.

Wait, and you just go in there and get them for free?

You get, like, I think four per person or something like that. There's a limit.

Walgreens.

Yes. It's where you can get your vaccinations, where they're gonna be doing it, and they're gonna be putting it to schools.

Huh.

So I think Amazon should put it in Amazon prime boxes because they don't want us to be sick. How are we going to buy stuff.

That would be smart? And they could put.

They do have a PCR test. I saw you could get on Amazon where you could send it off and get. You know. But there's expense to it.

I. I have a friend. Listen to this. I have a friend and his wife took a test, and I guess she took the test, put it down and went to the bathroom or something, and he took a pen and drew the lines look like it was positive. Oh, my gosh.

That's mean.

That is mean. Yeah, that is mean.

So.

Good thing it wasn't an ept.

It's very. I tell you, you can get. You can get PSTD from those tests. You're like, oh, God. Yeah. Positive or negative? Like, for women, there's a high anxiety sometimes for checking those things. Yeah, it looks very similar.

Really? Is that right?

Yeah. The little lines. Yes.

Yeah.

I remember we were waiting for Avery. We were like. We went. Jody was at school, and we did it, like, at the school, like, in the bathroom.

Like, you did the test or you did the act?

It was the test.

Okay, well, be specific.

It was the test.

Okay.

Well, I mean, boy, that would be a story. Yeah. No.

Sorry, Dad. Sorry, Mr. C. Yes. Please pray for you now.

Yes. So what's the last habit you tried to create? So, Pegs, I guess you. Was it your tiny habit you just did?

The last habit I tried to create, I think the Morning pages was one that I really like, really picked up. And I stuck with. I love getting up and doing the morning pages. And then also just the gratitude practice I baked into that so I could just write down what I'm grateful for. Because I do think, and he does talk about that in this book as well, that being grateful, the act of writing down and thinking about things that you're grateful for, helps you appreciate more what you have. And especially during the pandemic where it's just been. It's such a struggle. Like there's, you know, news and all this stuff. Like, it's really important to feel that just to, you know, to be grateful for what you have.

But. But you putting that together is exactly what BJ Fogg was talking about in this podcast episode is chaining things so you will do stuff. So for me, I have such. I have everything on automation. So, like, I have a button that unlocks my office and disables the alarm. I click that button on my iPad and then right before that I click a button that opens my journal. So it's part of the process, like to go to my office to work. Before that, I have to write in my journal. And I looked today and I had like 600 streaks, like writing in. I use day one.

Really?

Yeah.

So it's like, how long is your journal entry?

Sometimes it's a paragraph, sometimes it's, you know, a couple pages. It just depends on how I'm feeling. I just. That's my tiny habit is like I'm going to write something and sometimes more.

It'S just thoughts or whatever.

Yeah.

So but that's something I've never done. Huh.

My watch is a crazy journal.

Wake up. Check email.

Sometimes that's just a bad way to start, though, because then you get sucked into that and then it takes out maybe some good ideas or something.

Okay. But here I have the insight. So. I. I don't send out. I don't schedule sends until 8am and I'm also have my virtual assistant who will not send to me until 8am so I can wake up at 6am and more or less know that. And she is the one who's checking Guy Kawasaki at Gmail. Then I have a secret email that she takes what she can't handle that went to Guy Kawasaki Mail and forwards it to my secret email address, which is the one I pay attention to. And so I know more or less that when I get up at 6, between 6 and 8, I'm not going to see any email because she hasn't scheduled them to go for another two hours. So that is like an externality habit.

That's good. The other habit I'm trying not to do is look at the news at first thing in the morning because I used to grab my phone and look at the news and that's a crappy way to start your day. So here's some people who've answered the question, what habits are they starting? Brian is trying to do breathing exercises throughout the day every day. So that's really good. Jim is trying meditation, doing some more meditation. And then Jonathan is. He's trying bullet journaling is what he's trying right now.

I like bullet journaling.

It's cool.

I just have horrible way of journaling.

What is it?

It's. You actually create pages. They have like bullet points and stuff, but it's more artistic and you like. People get super fancy with it. I actually got stuff to do an art journal to try to do like watercolors on it and write this stuff, but I haven't gotten there yet because I'm not good at watercolors. That's like a challenge.

I have horrible handwriting.

Very popular. It's more like you can make lists and, you know, daily you can do like. There's all different kinds of things. You can even get little templates and on Pinterest there's tons of different.

It's really cool.

We should. Our friends in Norway at Remarkable Tablet should form a partnership with Julie Cameron and have everybody do their pages on the Remarkable Tablet.

That would be cool.

You can make your own bullet journal template in Canva and save it and put it into your Remarkable Tablet and.

Then even better for us.

Yeah, so you can. That's what I do. I made. I made little templates for a couple things in Canva and then I just put it and then I can just write on them and erase it. Or if I wanted to copy it and save, you know, save stuff on there.

But wait, wait, you made it in Canva, So what? It's the background. How do you erase it?

With my pen. You just go, no, no.

But how did you make the Canva design your stationary in the Remarkable Tablet?

I saved it as a template.

You can save a PDF as a template?

Yep. I'll see if I can pull it up.

I've done it for you.

Yeah, I use Michael Tablet. Really?

I sent you one. I made you one one time. Okay, here's one. I made a to do list here.

Let me go full screen.

Also I had somebody writing on it.

You must have sent it before 8am so.

No, I sent it and I. Because I made like a little checklist for podcasts for you and you were like, why did you make this? And I said, because I just like. I like one for me. So the handwriting on there is actually like, that's actually. I did that in Canva and then I just checked the stuff off and I changed the name on it and I can make notes for whatever and what every day.

But it doesn't have the functionality of reminders. Right. It's not like things disappear once they're done. I mean, it's a static document.

Yeah.

Yeah. But it's nice to have if you want a checklist for something that you have procedures for. So say, for example, you know, you are going to. You're getting ready to record, you know, like your process for. You have all the steps for getting the person there and you're going to record. So then you keep a checklist, questions done, you know, setup files, set squad, cast, Kalin, you know, like all those things. And you could just check those off by guest and then you could email that to yourself or whatever you want to do with it. So I just like it because it's that physical. And also you get that nice dopamine of like checking off something in your list that you said. You're like, did it, did it? And then you're at the end, you're like, ta da.

So Jonathan says making templates unremarkable has saved him so much paper.

Yeah. Did you, Jonathan? Have you tried making them in Canva? There's lots of templates in Remarkable, though they did just add a whole bunch new. Yep. See, Jonathan, you're so good.

Lewis, this is a great. This is a great one from. Lewis says the last habit that he has tried to create is to stop buying books until I finish reading those I have bought and haven't read. However, I just failed. I bought Tiny Habits. Shame on you guys.

I'm 100% guilty of the same thing. I have to make it to be read pile. And I got caught up on a lot of it.

And then I got every podcast I edit on the show. I have to get the book. It seems like there's only been a couple that I haven't.

But we need to give you a reading allowance.

I know that would be great. Bessie says mindfulness, being fully present, patience, not judging and letting go. Those are all great ones, Betty. And then Rebecca says daily affirmations is what she's trying to do. And that's kind of what? Like you were doing. When you talk about.

I'll tell you a habit I want to break. I. I am binge watching Yellowstone, and I swear I spend four hours a day watching Yellowstone right now.

I do like it.

I love it. You just started it.

I did.

I have. I just saw people talking about it. I haven't started it.

It gets darker and darker, man, and then they get. They have this new one with, like, the prequel to it that looks amazing.

Oh, really?

Yeah, it's called 1888 or something like that. Anyway, but it's a. It's beautifully shot. So here's our second question, because before we get into Yellowstone, do you celebrate small wins? This is a big part of what you guys talked about on the podcast. So if you haven't gone, make sure you go to remarkable people.com and check that out. But small wins. So explain what that is guy and what he was talking about.

Well, it's. It's. The concept is that instead of waiting for this humongous. I don't know what, you know, IPO or something, you celebrate smaller accomplishments, like putting your phone in the other room and going to sleep.

Right.

Or doing two push ups. Yeah, those are small wins. And all those small wins add up to positivity and habits, which is the whole point.

Mm. We were the worst of that. We had this bottle of champagne we bought, and it was like, everything that, like, a great thing would happen be like, oh, we can't open it yet. We can't open it yet. And we were finally, like, all these big things happened, and finally we just opened it on, like, one Tuesday night. We're like, we have to just drink this thing and stop being so silly. Time ago. Where champagne. And it was like a great bottle and. But, like, why did we do that? You know, we should have celebrated every single one instead of being like, well, maybe we should wait, you know? Um. But it is.

But it made it more special, right?

Pardon me?

It made it more special.

That was a great Tuesday. See? But yeah, so it is good. It's important to celebrate small wins.

And you don't have to. You don't have to go crazy. Like, you'll be like, hey, I'm gonna.

That was. That is the section he has in here, like, 100 ways. You can just say yes and do a fist pump. Draw them a happy beat. Imagine your mom giving you a hug. Smile big. Draw a smiley face like, they're very small. Clench your fist and say yes. You look. Just so they don't have to be A bottle of champagne.

How about getting a five star review?

That is a happy thing.

Maybe you could reward yourself by going surfing. So Jonathan goes every day. So Jonathan says giving high fives and giving away air guitars, that's a great way to celebrate small win. I love the air guitar thing. So Jonathan, you'll have to post like an Instagram reel or something of you doing an air guitar that we can see.

TikTok.

Yeah, TikTok open a beer every night after work. I love that. That's a perfect one.

How about a liquid death every night?

Yeah. Bessie says celebrate small wins and buy and drink great wine. No reason to drink cheap, bad wine. There we go.

True story.

That is true. So did you see.

This is completely off topic, but did you see my latest Instagram post, Pig?

The one for the podcast this morning? No, that's your latest post.

I found a little friend.

Oh, I didn't see that. You. You posted after that?

Yeah.

Do you have another deer in your yard? A little friend?

Close. Getting closer.

Oh, nope. Yes, I see that. It's interesting. It's actually quite an artistic picture. You guys can all go check it out on guys Instagram.

Yes.

It's still on the car if you want to see it.

Now everybody's curious and leaving our show.

To go see that doubled my subscribers at Instagram just now.

So this is so one habit you created in the past year. So we're kind of going a little broader for the questions. What. So I would say the one that. So one of my things is I like to do things like at 15 minutes, like if I'm trying to learn something new, like, I'll say, I'm gonna. I'm gonna read this really difficult subject for 15 minutes or I'm going to practice the piano for 15 minutes and that's my minimum amount of things to do. And like I'm gonna. And then it kind of adds up to it. But. So I think piano would be the one that I've been doing in the past year and I'm pretty sure pretty doing at least 15 minutes a day.

Really.

I suck at it. But it's. It's fun.

I try to do piano. I took piano when I was young and then I did it when I was an adult when my kids were taking it.

I have a. I have a. I have a. I don't. I never know how to say it. And I'm Japanese. I don't know if it's Yamaha or Yamaha, but I have one of those grand pianos and I don't Play at all. My father played. So this piano has been from Hawaii to. To. Did it go to San Francisco? It may have gone Hawaii, San Francisco, Atherton, and now Santa Cruz. This piano has been. We spent a lot of money moving his piano.

The thing is, is now with any instrument, it's amazing with the technology. Like, if I would have had this when I was a kid, I would have. I've been a maestro right now because the. I'm learning From Harry Connick Jr. Piano Lessons from Harry. Harry.

Really?

Yes. It's just amazing. Yeah. And master class stuff.

How much are. How much is learning piano from Harry Connick Jr. On master class?

I mean, I have the lifetime access. I bought it. It's from. It's called Piano Playground, and he's the coach. And so it's. It's like a monthly fee. Like, it's like a master class fee. Like, master class. I'm taking a comedy class from Judd Apatow right now.

I mean, this is 50amonth.

500. Peg and I split it.

One fee. It's one fee. Wait, is it monthly or annual?

We got the annual thing because during. They did. They've done it for the last couple years, is you buy one, you get one free. And so Peg and I just split it and.

What. Wait, so how much is the annual fee? Can somebody give me a number?

I'll look here. Just a second.

It wasn't that much.

It was like 100 bucks, I think.

Yeah, it's like a hundred dollars for the whole.

Annie Leibovitz has a course there, right?

Yeah, there's all sorts of crazy.

I mean, I'm taking a writing class from Amy Tan right now.

Seriously, Huh?

I love her.

And is it. What video? And they give you exercises and stuff like that?

Yep.

So we have a. So Andre is playing acoustic guitar after lunch. That's a great way to kind of get back into it. Trying to get seven to eight hours of sleep each night.

I wish I could do that.

Jim is. He's starting to listen to French podcasts to relearn French. That's interesting. That's really, really cool, Jim. Yeah. Is it working?

Tres bien.

Oui, oui.

That is.

Charity is listing at least one thing that they're grateful for each day. That's really good. Oh, this is great. Read one story to kids before they go to bed and spend some quality time with them. That is awesome.

That was my favorite time every day was reading stories. I loved story time.

Very cool. All right, second to last question is, did you watch the Social Dilemma.

What's that got to do with tiny habits?

BJ Fogg was mentioned in Social Dilemma.

Oh, he was?

Yeah.

Yeah. And the podcast, they got me all wrong. They asked. Several of the people, talked about how he. They took his class. So we didn't talk about the Facebook class.

Oh, the Facebook class.

He talks about the Social Dilemma. And basically before the Social Dilemma, he had gone and tried to help give information to the government on how all the social networks could cause problems, and they didn't listen to him.

Oh, right, yeah. He. He called it years in advance.

Right, yeah.

Oh, and that reminds me, we're gonna ask him if he could. And the two people that founded Instagram were in that class. Yeah, we were gonna ask him.

There's a lot of famous people those are in that class. So did you see the Social Network? Because I. I kind of waited because I knew I'd get depressed, and I finally did, but it's. It's pretty eye opening.

Yeah.

So I'd love to know if you guys did that. There's some other people who are doing some great habits that are pulling up some comments here. Let me see here. Where is it?

We have a great variety of things that people are trying to do, which is very cool.

Learning Greek once a week. That's really interesting.

Yeah.

Anyway, so Social Dilemma. Did you see it when it first came out, Peg?

Yes, I did. I watched it. Well, a little bit afterwards. I was like, oh, I was afraid to watch it. I. I don't want to watch it. And have them be like. And then we read the Art of Social Media and the world exploded. I don't want to be on that part of it. But they didn't.

We have had two people on the podcast from that movie.

Yes.

Right now. Tim Kendall and Chris Messina.

Right. And three, if you can't. BJ Fogg, because he was mentioned.

Oh, okay. What's the. The guy I keep wanting to get on, the guy with the.

He.

The bearded. He was pretty interesting, too. I'd like to see him.

Jordan.

Clever. Yeah.

No, no. Jordan Clipper. Not. It's not Jordan.

It's Jordan, the guy who had the beard that was like.

He was on it a lot. He was on it a lot, though. He, like, almost narrated it sometimes.

So it was a great. It's a very interesting movie. And I think more is going to come out on as time goes by with the attention economy thriving.

Yes, yes. Okay, our final question is this, because this is really interesting. Do you listen to the podcast before joining this live show? Like all of you in the comments, some of you I know because you've said that you've already changed your habits because of that. But does this make you go back and watch the show or do you try to watch it, listen to it before? Because it comes out in the morning and this is it, you know, 6:30 my time and then it's noon. Does that give you enough time? When do you typically listen to the podcast? Because I think that would be fascinating because it releases on Wednesday, early in the morning. When do you listen? That would be fascinating to us.

Well, how about if they listen? Let's.

Why? Yeah, so I would love to know that there's some other. Some great questions here. Jim says try Daniel Pink's nap method from When. When from his win book. Yeah. Cup of coffee plus 20 minute nap. A napuccino. I've done that.

Yeah.

It's really, really. I try to do that. If I do take a nap, it really does work because your body gets. It processes it. Yeah, the napachino. Very cool, Jim. Thanks for that. So Jim hasn't listened to it. So he is going back. So. Yes. And leave us a rating review, Jim. We'd appreciate that Jim, if you do it and, and we'll read it next week if you come back. So leave us a rating review if you haven't done it already. So Jonathan says I'd appreciate if the podcast was released early morning at 7am so.

Well, you'll have to move to California. Jonathan.

I'm sorry, where is he?

Yeah, he's in Florida, I believe.

Yeah. Also he wants it earlier.

Yeah, but it's 9:30. I mean it's 6:30 PT. So what I would say there's a problem. We need to be able to check it.

Yeah. Also I would like to know if you guys would like. There's a couple episodes in there where Guy is actually teaching where he does like the art of presentations and what was the other one? But would you like to have more of just Guy solo content every once in a while? I think that's. Yeah. Because those do really well. If you would look at our downloads, would. Would you guys like to see more of like Guy doing the art of.

That wouldn't be until the summer, right?

We're booked. But I'm just saying, would you like it?

Seriously? We are kind of booked till May. It's unbelievable.

And they're all good. They're all really good. So if you haven't yet, make sure that you guys go to the podcast where you at. Remarkablepeople.com and down. You know, follow us, subscribe, whatever you want to call it. We also. Right here. Boom. Look at that. You can just hold up your smart device and click on this QR code, and it'll take you right there. And we would love for you guys to leave us a rating review because it really does help the show out. And there is a huge back catalog of amazing guests. I would say every single one of those episodes is evergreen. You know, a lot of shows they would be. You know, that's something that's like just, you know, as it's kind of old, it doesn't matter anymore. All of these episodes are markup remarkable people, and it's evergreen content that still can apply today. So make sure you guys check that out. So let's see here. So Jonathan's in Florida. So yeah, Jonathan says, I listen to the back catalog, guys. YouTube videos is how I. He found the podcast. That's really interesting, Jonathan.

These are live on YouTube and then they save as a video.

Yeah. Oh, so very, very cool. And so Bessie's gonna go listen after the live show. Very, very cool. To your podcast. To this episode. So. And Jonathan says he'd be up for some pro tips from Guy, so.

Pro tips about what?

Just being a pro. Your art, your. Your. Your talks are really good. We. The downloads show.

Show that, you know, I. I could make the argument they're much easier too.

Right.

I don't have to record somebody. I don't. We don't have to edit it as much. It's all that. I'm total control of that. Right. And obviously I can talk about. Well, if you look at my book the Art of Art of the Start or Reality Check, every one of those chapters could be a session.

I liked Reality Check a lot. I think that book is underrated.

The problem is that. Yeah, then there's not enough weeks in the year.

Right?

Right. I mean, unless you want to do 2. 2 a week.

Or a special edition or something.

I don't see anybody raising their hand.

Charity says this. She goes, I haven't listened to the podcast. She goes, I haven't listened to the podcast. However, I will say I appreciate the live experiences better. Podcasts are great in the background as I cook or clean. Charity, these. These podcasts are amazing. If you like the live show, you will love the podcast. So make sure you go check that out. It's not. We don't go on so many rabbit trails. And. And guys interviewing people like Jane Goodall, Martha Stewart, all these amazing people. BJ Fogg, for this week. Go listen charity, and let us know what you think. Come back next week and let us know.

Right.

Mark Benioff is next week. Yep, yep, yep.

Yeah.

Richest person we've ever had on this.

Podcast, except for me. No, just kidding. I think he's got a little bit more money than me. And he owns a magazine, which I. I have magazines, but they're not the same.

I read them on my iPad. I read Time articles on my iPad a lot.

Oh, yeah, yeah, they're short. You know what magazine I am obsessed with that I just started getting is New Yorker magazine. It is literally the best. Like, it's so entertaining and so good every year, everyone.

New Yorker.

New Yorker. Yeah. So good.

Is that where Borowitz worked?

I don't. I don't know.

The only problem is a lot of them, they're really long articles. They're a lot longer than normal ones. They're good. I mean, they're high quality writing, but it's not something.

Cartoons for you, too.

I know. That's what's. That's why I get distracted. It's a rabbit.

Is that Carolyn Hacks? Yeah, that's the cartoon.

Yeah, they're really good. All right, so if you like this show, make sure you guys go to Remarkable People Community Charity. Thank you. She's gonna go listen to the podcast, but also Charity, we'd love for every you and everybody else to go to the Remarkable People community and go to Bit Ly Remarkable People circle. Sign up there. Let us know your thoughts, let us know your habits, any tiny habits you're coming up with. We'd love to see you there as well. And also make sure you guys go to here. Just hold up your smart device and leave us a rating and review over on your favorite podcast player of choice. That really helps the podcast out. And with that, Mr. Kawasaki, I'll let you have the last word.

The last word is next week, we're going to check back and see what tiny habits you've started. You better have some.

That's right. Her guy will get you. All right, everybody, see you next time.

All right, bye. Bye.