Remarkable People Behind the Podcast: The Power of Greatness

Foreign. Hey, everybody, I'm Guy Kawasaki, and welcome to my behind the Podcast.

Oh, Guy got a lot more attractive, I'd say, than he's. No, he's not watching this, is he?

No, probably. Yeah, he's probably watching. Guys, you're watching. So, hey, everybody, I'm sure you probably noticed that I am really not Guy Kawasaki. I am Peg Fitzpatrick, and I'm joined by. I'm so bad at, like, on camera by Jeff C. And we actually are the people who are behind the podcast. So the behind the Podcast is actually featuring the people who are behind Guy working on the podcast. Mr. Kawasaki is taking a vacation. So we are here today to talk to you about this week's episode with Ronnie Lott. And Jeff and I are renowned sports experts.

That's right.

All we talk about is sports.

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And so if you guys have questions or you want to say hi to us, drop it anywhere. Any platform that you're on, just tell us. Hi. Jeff will be popping up the questions. Just so you know, when you watch this show every week, Jeff is the one who. Guy's always saying, hey, Jeff, pull that thing up. That's Jeff.

That is me. Yeah. The strange bearded man behind the stream. Yeah. So a lot of people are going, hey, where's Guy? Well, Guy is on vacation. We will probably have to say that more than once during the show today, but we wanted to come on and talk about this. Amazing. This is actually both Peg and I, you know, we enjoy sports. We're not sports nuts. But this was an amazing podcast just on its own with Ronnie Lott.

Really?

Yeah. You probably recognize that name. I grew up. I grew up in. Around Kansas City, and when he played for Kansas City, that was a big deal. But it was. This is. This is one you definitely do not want to miss because there are a lot of great lessons. He names dropped. Ronnie name drops like crazy during this episode of really Famous Sports People. So it's very, very cool.

But I really appreciated the fact that he just looks at professional athletes or Olympic athletes just at that level. Like, he doesn't just talk about football. He talks about Brandy Chastain, who's a previous guest who's, you know, world class soccer, Olympic gold medal soccer. He talked about Christy Yamaguchi. And he's, of course, best buddies with Joe Namath. So if you don't know Ronnie Lott, he was playing at the same time he played with Joe Namath, who was. Depends on your age if you remember them playing. But Joe Namath was just. He was everywhere. He was really one of the first, I would say, sports people that was just all over the tv. Don't you think?

Yeah.

So many brand deals.

The fur coat. Yeah. So. And the thing also the. That Marcus Allen, who is another one of people who I used to watch a lot. He's. He talks about him a lot during the show. But let's, let's do our icebreaker question. We've got. Oh, by the way, we got a lot of people coming in. Claudia says hello. We've got people from Dubai. Ansar says hello. She's from Brazil. Claudia is. So we've got tons of people here with the show today. Yes. Guy is on vacation. We are. This is a sports show. We are the second string behind the scenes. So the second string is third or fourth or fifth. Exactly. But make sure you guys go check out. Yeah, I was gonna say make sure you guys go check it out. You can go get. From your favorite podcast player. If you go to remarkablepeople.com you can find this podcast for this week. But also, there's a huge library of amazing, remarkable people that Guy has had on the show. So you guys want to go. Make sure to go to remarkablepeople.com and check that out.

So you're gonna. We're gonna do the icebreaker.

Yeah.

So you guys need to answer.

This is for you guys. Who is your biggest sports icon? So, like, it doesn't have to be football. Cause, you know, Ronnie. Ronnie talks about football a lot in this episode. But what is your, you know, your biggest sports sports icon? So, Peg, who is your biggest sports icon, would you say?

I would say mine are like Olympic athletes. One of the first years that I remember was watching Dorothy Hamill. I always like the ice skating. I like the pair skating and the women's figure skating. So that the Olympic winter sports were always the big things for me. My sister was into gymnastics. So the year Nadia Comonic got perfect tens and she who was like the first Olympic athlete to get perfect tens. So I really do look up to Olympic athletes because I think the amount of work that it takes to get there is crazy. And obviously the same for professional sports. You know, you go, it's hard to be at the top of any sport. So I would say Olympic athletes for me. How about you?

Yeah, I think Olympic athletes for sure. I wanted to bring up this really quick, but make sure you answer who's this is. I think we did say the name wrong. We said Terry. Terry goes. I think you mean Joe Montana. Yes. Because they played on the 49ers together. Yes. So Joe Montana. Yeah. So he was a great. And I liked it too because he went because I told you before that I'm a Chiefs fan. So he played for them at kind of the end of his career. But yeah. So gosh, you know it sounds. Because everybody would say him, but it was right when I was watching it and when I was a kid. But you know, oh, Michael Jordan. The stuff he would do and I would just. It was. It was in the news all the time. And so he would probably be one. I like to watch. Gosh, there's so many of them.

I actually saw Michael Jordan play when I lived in Detroit and I used to work for Merrill Lynch. We used to get tickets to everything, concerts, sports. So I used to go to the basketball game sometimes. But my dad was a huge baseball fan, so for me it was baseball. And I used to go to see the Tigers games with my dad and he was a huge Yankees fan. He was a Tigers fan too. And then he would bring me and we would go. So I actually went to the World Series the year that Detroit won.

Oh, wow. That's pretty cool that you got to go baseball.

But Rich doesn't like baseball. My husband doesn't like baseball, so he never watches it. But I was like pre trained to be like a really great baseball spouse and watch all the games. But he's likes college basketball.

That's cool. Yes, I. My son's a sports nut and so he's really gotten me into it. And so he's a big Cowboys fan because we're in Texas. And so he, you know, Tony Romo was his big hero growing up. And now that he's doing the commentary, we love to watch him. I just think he's a cool guy too. So Tony Romo. So we've got some answers. Matthew says Michael Jordan. Good pick, Matthew. Mary Lou Retina. Yep. She was a great. Yeah, I remember seeing her. She was on the Wheaties box forever. That's how I. Because I remember on there all the time. Ayrton Sin. I don't know who that is. But we've got a Gordon Fay soccer.

Player maybe that we.

Yeah. So, yeah. Bobby Orr. So this from YouTube. Yeah. So we've got. A lot of people have looked up the sports icons for a long time, but let's ask her for another question. Is like, who's your favorite football player? So we asked who your sports icon. We got Michael Jordan. We got a bunch of other answers. So football player and American Football. For all those people who are watching American football, who's your favorite football player? And they're, you know, and. And Ronnie mentioned so many good ones during the. The podcast. Gosh. Marcus Allen. Gosh. You know, you think about Mean Joe Green, you think about some of the other big ones. I don't know who my favorite one. And like, the Refrigerator Perry. Remember that whole. With the Chicago Bears when they. That's when I was really watching them. So there's so many good ones. We.

We lived in Rochester, so the Buffalo Bills were my husband's, like, home team that he loved. He would watch Buffalo Bills. So he's. He does not enjoy the Patriots. And that's. I mean, New England is crazy. Patriots fans. So are you guys Tom Brady fans or not?

Oh, yeah.

Like, see, he's. He's a very controversial player. And it's interesting because Ronnie talks about him on the podcast because Guy asks him what he thinks about it, and he gave a very nice answer, but people feel split about that. Tom Brady.

Yeah, that was. That's a good. Was. Yeah. So, yeah, Tom Brady. There's. Let me pull this down here. But yeah, so we've got Johnson, Tom Brady, that was his favorite American football player. Got some other ones here, too. But yeah, so there's so many to pick from. And, you know, I guess it does, you know, depend on the team that, you know, like, you grew up with. And. Yeah, like my son, like I said, it was, you know, Tony Romo, he just, he would. He would. Would just die if he got to meet him because he loved him so much.

So before your son's time, though, the Dallas Cowboys were. They were the team before the Patriots were dominated.

They'd always call it the Americans team. And I'm just like, that's a little. I. They're not my favorite. And I would. Everyone here is a Dallas football nut. And so the Cowboys. And so I did get to go see a game, you know, with my son. And that was like he was going to, you know, that was his big thing to do. So it was a lot of fun to go see that.

So it really is. Professional sports are so fun if you get to go, you know, to baseball. Any of those are just. I've obviously seen more baseball games but. But I did see quite a bit of football when I was in Detroit just for something to do.

So to me pro football game is like, it's like event. I like to go to the baseball games because they're just relaxing to me. Like I like to go to the Texas Rangers. They have a great stadium. Go in there and chillin and hanging out. I gotta go to the Seattle not. Oh, the San Diego. When they were there I went to go see. Yeah. And so gotta see them. And so it was. I just like it because it's relaxing when I go see baseball. It's relaxing. So Terry goes Joe Namath, he was my favorite football player when I was a kid in New York. Yeah. Yeah. And I agree, John. He goes. Tony Romo is also an amazing host. Makes the game so much more enjoyable. Great insights in real time. Yeah. Because he's. He was at quarterback and he can. It's so funny. And they make fun of him because he reads the plays and tells you what's going to happen before it does. But he's. His excitement is just. I think I just love him because he reminds me of how excited John Madden used to get where he could just barely contain himself, you know, as announcing things. Tony kind of has some of that feel as well. So I would agree, John, that Tony Romo is also amazing a person. So let's go to our next question which we got to explain this, which you cut off the tip of your finger in order to not miss the start of a season. So Ronnie talks about this in the podcast. So Peg, why don't you tell a little bit of the story Because I mean it's. It was. I mean he smashed his finger what it is. He smashed his finger between and he talks about it in the podcast. So make sure you guys go to remarkablepeople.com and check it out.

But we don't want to spoil the story because it is a good one. But he had to do something drastic so he could start the season. And most people know what it is. If you're a football fan and he gets asked about it all the time.

Yeah.

Would you do something extreme to get into the game? Would you cut off the tip of your finger so you could get that.

Game so you could play? I mean, so growing up, there was a guy who I knew who went to, actually, our church, and he. He played for the Bears back in the day when they used leather helmets. I mean, and he would tell stories of that. They would go in, they would break their nose or they break their fingers, and they just tape it up and go back in the game. I mean, it was. It was. I mean, he was. He didn't know his name, but he was a great guy. No, but I mean, they just. I mean, that's a lot of stuff. And so, like, our next question is, like, have you had injuries like that you had as a kid that affected your health and later in life? And this could be devastating, you know, And Ronnie even talked a little bit about this in the podcast because of all the controversy now with the head injuries and the, you know, the. The constant concussions, the new helmets, they're developing. And my son, like, his senior year was playing football, and he tore his ACL and was out, and he was devastated. That was his senior year, and he was just. And he was a sports guy, and he had just devastated him. I broke my foot. Foot in. I don't think I told you this big, but when I was in junior high, I was playing. I was playing football, and I broke my foot, and that was the last time I was done. I mean, it was like I was.

A big cheerleader in junior high.

There you go.

I didn't make the high school team because I could not do the cartwheel into a split.

That's pretty impressive.

For me, I couldn't do that at all. But there's so many different things. Like, my daughter did. All three of my kids actually did tons of dance. And one of my daughters has, like, hip injuries still because she's in a hip hop class, and she literally, like, popped her hip, and she. It's still like, you know, even just years of dance class can.

So here's the question. Do you think the. The lessons learned, like, in the dance class or, like, even my son's sports is worth the injury that they got? I mean, that's a good question, as I know you have to wrestle with that as a parent.

Right?

And, you know, we've had some, like, Brandy Chastain talks about, you know, her kids and, you know, letting them do stuff in a previous episode of this podcast. But you have to balance that as a parent and it's right. It can affect your health later on.

I think any of those things where you're working at as a team, whether it's theater or dance or sports, you know, you do learn so much. You don't want it to be, you know, like some of the stories that you've heard about gymnastics or any of the other Olympic sports where, you know, people are treated poorly or abuse is happening or any of those things, but it is. You do learn a lot by being part of a team that you don't learn when you're working on things all by yourself. So I would probably say even though you did football through junior high, you probably learned a lot of things. You got to show up on time, you got to work hard. You know, if you want to play in the game, you know, there's just. You learn a ton. Whether it's like handing off the plays that you have to learn, I don't know. I think it is worth it. I mean, you can get injured doing things, but what's the alternative? You don't do anything that you're getting in there. And I think that's part of what makes school great for kids, whether it's junior high or high school, is being a part of teams and clubs, because that's really the social aspect, where you, you know, do things with other people. And I think that probably most people who do sports and stay with it all the way through, you know, learned tons of things. And then if you go to. And sometimes it helps get you a scholarship.

Right.

Or it gets you a path in life, you know, helps you make connections. So I think it probably is worth that that you might get injured. I mean, you try to keep it as safe, everybody as safe as possible. And obviously with football, they're improving the equipment because what they had isn't sufficient. Yeah. And that's. That sucks about the head injuries.

So I would agree, because I think even my son, I mean, yeah, he got injured in his senior year, but he learned a ton of stuff. I mean, as a father, it was really hard to watch because I knew what he wanted to do. But he's right now pursuing kinesiology at college, and, you know, he wants to do sports medicine and all that stuff. So it's a part of his DNA. So taking that away from him would have been, you know, devastating for him. It was enough devastation senior year, but lucky you got to play a little bit more on basketball. But. So let's see. Terry says this. Yeah. Terry goes, I have a Bunch of friends that played basketball in high school and college now have total knee replacements because of the hardwood floors. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's tough. Yeah. So I think that, you know, you have to balance all that stuff. And, you know, I'm glad that things are getting safer. Even in the high school level, I saw them really watching out for the kids. I mean, you get thrown out of games now if you target somebody with the wrong kind of tackle at. On. On football games and even in high school. So it's. They're really watching out for them, which I think is really, really cool. So. And even if you're not a sports nut, you guys need to really go check out this podcast@remarkablepeople.com because there's a ton of things. Ronnie was really eloquent and really, the way he, you know, he brought things and how he wanted to give back to, you know, what he's doing, his community is. It's just a really inspirational podcast. So even if you're not a sports nut. It is. It is one. It was one of my favorite ones to listen to.

He just. I know I have a quote in here quick, that he did. He's one of those athletes that just really gets the, like, the commitment level of it. He compares it to the Navy SEAL mentality of, you know, being all in. Oh, and there it is. It was like, how did I know that?

Yeah.

But I think that is really important because that is one of the things that sets professional athletes, Olympic athletes, anyone who's performing well in sales or marketing or, you know, they can be translated to anything. But have you ever used any of the techniques that the Navy SEALs use, like the, you know, positive thinking and always be prepared and. And I think Ronnie Scouting.

Right. Well, I remember, you know, there's a lot of the professional ones who have gone on and been entrepreneurs. Like, he even mentioned he owns a couple of car dealerships that he has in. I'm not sure where he Is he. In California? He's in California, isn't he? I think he's right in Silicon Valley and so. And some other stuff that he's helped start up. So he's taken some of those and he explains it in the podcast, some of the lessons he learned and from the coaches, and he even mentioned. He mentioned his roommate, I think, was Marcus Allen. Quite a bit of how he would watch them and emulate some of the things they would do, and he would apply those to, like, later on his business stuff. So I thought that was. It's just A really great. A great one. So do us a favor, if you. If you would, haven't done this yet, but on the podcast, if you have enjoyed the podcast, if you would leave Guy a rating and review, man, that really helps the podcast out and, you know, share it with your. Your social friends, because there are so many good guests that we've had on the show, and we've got. Because we kind of. Because we're behind the scenes and we kind of know there's a ton of really cool ones coming up that you guys aren't going to want to miss. But if you would leave a rating review, that really does help out the podcast. So it does.

So here. Here's one quote from Ronnie. He said, in sports or in life, we all have moments where we do something to make sacrifices, because we understand that's what we do in life. We have to make sacrifices. So that's just one little. He just really was throwing out, like, nuggets of wisdom. I felt like. I think that's a term that gets used a lot. But with Ronnie, it was really true. You know, he just. The way he was explaining it on how, you know, he was successful, and he talked a lot about the teamwork and the people that he played with, and, you know, it's like the relationship and the networking and the communication, and it really is a great episode. Even if you're not a sports fan, you'll definitely enjoy it. And I don't know if you guys knew this, and I tried to get pictures, but I didn't get any from Guy. But Guy actually played high school football, so he was. He's a big sport. I'm sure everybody knows that. He played hockey for years, but when he was young, he played. He played football. He was a jock. That's surprising since he's now surfing all the time, which is amazing.

Right?

Yeah.

So the last question. So, you know, and Peg talked about a little bit about this, but, you know, Ronnie talked about this exhausting everything mentality and how important that is. So in your business, have you tried to exhaust everything in your life? I mean, sometimes exhaustion has a negative connotation. Like, it's, you know, like you've done it and you can't do anymore. Yeah, yeah, I've exhausted all my options. I've got. Yeah, I gotta get. I gotta get a real job. I've exhausted all my, you know, options here. But it also can be like, putting everything you've got into it. And that's what he was talking about. Like, I'm going To put all I am into this entrepreneurial journey. And at the end, if it doesn't work out, I know that I. I put everything I can into it. So.

Keeping all the cards on the table, right?

Exactly. And he had a great. He had some great points in the podcast about that as well. So.

Yeah.

How about you? Have you exhausted everything? I'm exhausted, but I'm not exhausted everything.

I think I do that with work. I mean, I definitely try to, like, really, you know, keep up. Keeping up on all the things in social media is a challenge. Like, you have to constantly catch the updates and test the updates and try things, and things change constantly. So I feel like I have to do that to be successful at my job. You know, I feel like you can't just. You definitely can't just do the same thing all the time without tweaking your plans and changing. So that forces you to constantly be upping your game to. To stay in it, I think, at all. Don't you think so?

Yeah. And so I think that at least I try to do that. You know, sometimes we all need breaks, we all need to recharge. But I think, you know, and I know Peg does this because I see her, but she putting. I'm putting. Leaving all of the cards on the table, leaving no stone unturned. Continue to learn. I think one of the ways to, you know, make sure you're putting all the calls, cards on the table is that you're constantly learning. And like, for us, social media and marketing and podcasting is always changing and there's new things coming out. Like Facebook is just rolling out with new podcasting options, and guy has that come rolling out for. For his channel soon. So, I mean, all that stuff we have to keep on top of, and that's always. If you do not like learning, then you're probably not gonna, you know, you haven't exhausted everything. I guess so.

Right. I think every job is like that, though. And so, you know, I think most jobs, jobs now you really have to upskill to keep moving forward. Everything is online. I think that happened for a lot of people during the pandemic where they were in the office. They weren't used to using technology as much. But anybody who had to figure out how to work at home had to figure out how to do cameras and lighting and, you know, all the things that, you know how to do zoom and, you know, just be more digitally better at communication, which is, you know, it takes organization. We use a bunch of tools on our team. We use, you know, we use trello. We use, you know, we sometimes text an email. We have something called privy that we use. So, yeah, I think exhausting. I'd love to know what people if. Did anybody answer the exhaust question? Does anybody feel like they really, like, put everything out there for their job? Yeah.

And it can be exhausting doing that. But I think the payoffs at the end are one, you know, what was my dad always would say, you know, you know, part of it's the job well done, knowing that you had your. You did the job and did it well done. So. So this is great. Terry says, I try much harder today being a better grandfather than I was a father. Yeah, I'm not there yet, but I hear that my. I know my dad has said something similar with my kids. Like, he really enjoys him probably more than he ever did me. So. Yeah. Peg, what about you? I know you're, you know, you've got grandkids.

I never talk about that, but yes. No, but I, you know, I think you do. I think the thing, when you're a grandparent, it's kind of like, it's not like a do over, but it's like a really good rerun of your favorite show, you know, so you get to like, enjoy some of the same things with like this next generation. It's, you know, like reading the same book or talk, you know, doing the same kind of things. And it's. It is. You do try to do. And I try to, like, live up to. To be as good like my awesome grandmas. Like, I try to be as good as my grandma's. Like, I'm always like, I hope I. I hope I'm like giving back as much as my nana, you know, like my nana did or, you know, my grandma Gile was just like the sweetest and you know, she just was like, everyone, everyone called her grandma. Like, everyone everywhere called her grandma because she was just a grandma. She just, you know, she treated everybody the same and she was just so kind. And, you know, I just think of, like, am I, you know, am I making that kind of impact? Like, it's. I sort of feels like a lot of responsibility, but a good responsibility.

Right.

And I think grandparents, you have a lot different relationship than parents.

Yeah. And. And so Stephen says this. Hopefully no one. One never stops learning throughout life. I agree with you, Steven. The thing is, I think some people do want to stop or they want to give up. And I appreciate you watching over on YouTube, but yeah, I. So I see some people even like retire and then they're done. They're like, you know, and they just watch their soaps and stuff. And I'm like, I hope I never.

You're done at that point, mentally, you got to keep doing new things. I read an article about how. How the brain works. They're, you know, they're always studying how the brain works, and one of them is to keep your brain active, like doing crossword puzzles or reading or, you know, you really just got to keep, you know, doing new things and learning new things and keep your brain going.

And you got to think Guy has.

Think our generation is going to get to retire.

Right? But. But even, like, for, let's say, Guy, we've talked about him. You know, He's. He's written 12 books. He's done all this different stuff. Fifteen books was really. We need to update some stuff then. But the. One of the things is, you know, he's only been podcasting for, what, just over a year. I mean, that was. It was something totally new that he had to learn how to do. And, you know, technology has changed. You know, we've talked about. We use. We use a Restream to go live for everything. We use descript, which is a great tool that we use to actually produce the podcast. We take that to OB Audition, where we do the sound design, we upload it to a podcasting platform, I mean, and then Peg takes it and chops it up and shares it everywhere. I mean, there's a lot of moving pieces. But this was all new to him. And so I think that. Continuing to grow, and I hope that I, you know, when I get to be. That sounds bad. Hope he's not listening, but I hope to be when I. When I keep going, that I continue to do what Guy is doing and learning new things, trying and developing new skills and all that kind of stuff. So I think, yeah. Pretty awesome.

Oh, he's. He's a really good example of that because he was also a very early blogger. Yeah, he was blogging before anybody was blogging. And so he'll sometimes be listed as, like, one of the best bloggers. And he's like, I don't even write anything on my blog anymore. But people remember that he was one of the original bloggers.

Right.

You know, that's how he built up his social platforms, by getting onto things early, like Twitter and Google, which obviously, you know, that was another one when we dove in there. So some of the things. Sometimes you have lessons that carry over to other things, and then sometimes it's, you know, you gotta Start over with learning all the new tools for. For podcasting or whatever the new thing is. Have you guys tried anything new lately? I'd love to know if anybody's tried anything new. I mean, look at Guy even trying surfing in his 60s. That's pretty amazing.

That is cool. So Anthony says this. He goes, every job I joined, I had to learn something new. I thought I was retired last year, but I started working again a month ago so that I can still keep learning. That is amazing. That is a great attitude, Anthony. So what. What type of job were our skill? Were you.

You.

You wanting to learn that you joined again? So I think that's pretty cool. So. And manual says, good podcast. It is a good podcast. So make sure you guys go check out this new one with Ronnie lott over@remarkablepeople.com you can download it to your favorite podcast player. And if you would be so kind to leave us a rating and review for that podcast, Guy would appreciate it very, very much.

Or you can just ask Siri. You can say, hey, Siri, play Guy Kawasaki's Remarkable People podcast with Ronnie Lott.

You can also ask the. The Amazon assistant. That I will not say because it will set off everything. So, yeah, toilet paper. I have it. I hit my earphone. So I'm glad you wouldn't do that. Do that, by the way. Yes. All right, so with that, I think we are. We are pretty much done with the. The podcast, but I want you guys to go. Make sure you guys go over there and do listen to it. Let us know what you think about Ronnie Lott's episode. Guy always answers his emails, so, you know, share it out on socials, do whatever you would like to do, and let us know what you think. And we do have a special message from Guy that we are going to play right now. Are you. Are you ready for it?

Yes.

All right, I'm Jeff C. And this is. This is Peg Fitzpatrick, and we'll see you next time. Bye, guys.

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