Takeover Tuesday: Dr. Caroline Leaf

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Thank you so much for being here today.

Thank you. I'm thrilled. Thank you for what you do as well. It's an honor. Thank you.

This is such so exciting for me because this is one area that I am passionate about and I actually got my degree in psychology and it is so amazing how we can, when we have like brand new filters to see God's word, we can see how it directly applies to the way we think. Now you, this is the cool thing, you exposed a switch in your brain that enables you to live happier, healthier lives. This switch in your brain and people are like, what is this? What is this magical thing like? Tell us about the switch we can turn on in our brain.

Well, it's your mind. So it's your mind which is separate from your brain. The minute people talk about mind and brain, they think it's the same thing. So the first most important thing is to understand that your mind is separate from your brain. Your brain's a physical structure and your mind is a non physical structure and it works through the brain. So there's a very intimate relationship between the two. So with your mind, you actually design your brain. So whatever you're doing, whatever you're thinking about is actually becoming a physical structure inside your brain. So your mind generates this quantum energy and then you grow these structures in your brain and you build your memories into your brain. And so that's, you design what your brain wants to look like and then your brain feeds back into your mind and then you've got your spiritual part of you as well, so that all of them are working together. So your switch is your mind. So how you use your mind is going to really determine your next reality.

You know, that reminds me in Hebrews where it says, faith is a substance of things hoped for and the presence of things not seen. It actually is this switch in our brain, our mind, it actually, once we can get control of that and learn how to switch it on, that's actually it creates the substance. It creates that energy that is manifested in our lives. And I think that is the most fascinating thing in the world. To not live below your circumstances, but to use that switch in your brain to change your circumstances.

Exactly. You Know, we have the power of the mind. And people don't recognize how powerful our minds are right to think and feel and choose. And, you know, it's the same force that create. That God used to create the world, that same forces inside of us. You know, we have that power. So we're not victims. And people, you know, the current worldview tends to promote a victim mentality. It's your genes or it's in your genes or it's in your. You can't change your mind. But that's not actually accurate science at all. You can redesign anything in your brain. You can redesign anything in your life. It's very much up to you how you reconceptualize it. And it's very powerful.

It's. It's hugely powerful. And here's what I want to talk about is that. And I'm going to step on some toes here is that so often we are supposed to create just the way that God creates. Like, we are called to be imitators of him. And the thing is, Caroline, God didn't sit around and say, oh, man, it's so dark. It's so dark. What do I do about this dark? He said, light be. Like, let there be light. And light was. And the thing that I want to get through to our amazing viewers who are coming on and commenting, and I'm so grateful that they're here. They're watching from Wales, watching from South Africa, from Michigan. I'm so grateful they're here today. Something that I want us to leave this time together with a skill set that's going to change our lives. So many moms right now could be saying, talking about the problem instead of God's promise over it. You know what I mean? Where it's like, oh, you know, everyone's getting the flu. It's probably a matter of time before I get it, or another month, and we can't pay the bills. So. So can you talk about what you said about how our thoughts, this switch in our brain, actually manifest the physical reality?

Well, thoughts are real things. They occupy physical estate. So mental real estate, like a home, occupies land. Your thoughts are something that you build with your mind into your brain, and then they occupy structural space inside your brain. So when we talk about reconceptualizing, it means exactly that you reconceptualize. You look at this thing from in a different angle, a different way, and you redesign a thought. And that's kind of linked to the renewing of the mind process. So renewing of the Mind is the spiritual story. And whereas the science provides the how do you do it? So with your mind, you are actually redesigning a concept, a thought, a way of evaluating. So if you have, if you constantly getting flu, re conceptualize and just say, okay, well, maybe I need to look at what I'm eating. Maybe I need to look at what I'm exposing myself. Am I getting enough sleep? Am I, you know, basic stuff. Stand back and observe your life. Maybe you, you know, when we toxic and negative. We break down the DNA in our body and we become 75% more vulnerable to disease, you know, maybe we need to start whining and moaning. When you whine and moan, you increase your chance of getting, you know, sick by 75% as well.

You know, so it's 75% more vulnerable to disease 2 just because of the thoughts that are going on in your head.

75 to 98% to be precise. So we increase. Basically all disease comes from our thought life. 75 to 98% of disease. Anything in our body that's breaking down is coming from our thought life.

Do you think the problem is that people don't realize how powerful their thoughts really are?

Totally. It's totally fundamental because that, so this is not a message that's supposed to make people feel guilty because we do get these, the 2 to 25% factor that we are in an airplane and everyone's coughing all over you. And they, you know, so there is that natural process of viruses do move around and bacteria do move around.

Right.

Reality. But the thing is you can build up your resistance and you know, it's your lifestyle. These are lifestyle, these are lifestyle choices. Now currently, in this day and age, in 2018, people are dying, twins, 15 to 25 years younger than they should from preventable lifestyle diseases.

That is huge.

And that shift occurred between 2014 and 2015. So for the first time in decades, the CDC identified a trend that. A very negative trend that people are actually dying younger with the advances of technology or sooner than what they should with the advances of technology. And for years it had been the opposite trend then. People are living longer because medicine is advancing. But it reversed between 2014 and then again between 2015 and 2016. And it's continued that negative trend. And they attribute it down to lifestyle diseases. And lifestyle is predominantly mine because what you do, you decide what you're going to eat, whether you're going to exercise, what kind of thoughts you're going to focus on. Whatever you think about the most is growing in your brain. You Decide how you're going to handle that situation with your child, your husband, your school, your work, your friend, you. You decide and you choose. You have that power. And each thing, let's say that you are in an airplane and everyone's coughing all over you. If you're eating well, if you're exercising, those are small portions. If your mind is right, if you hand, if your mind is in a positive state, you have so much more strength to fight those bugs that are around you.

Right? Yeah. Yeah, I can. I can definitely see that.

With people. In the 25, 50 to 60. 60 years ago, there was a major change in how people eat and how people are managing mind issues, and that's what they're attributing. This trend to lifestyle, how we manage our life has become very different.

In the last thing that it's becoming like this cycle of where you're not taking care of your body properly and the stress that's in. And then so with all the stress and the negative thoughts, all of a sudden you're eating more of the things that you shouldn't eat. And it's just like, how do we break out of that cycle? Like, how do we. How do we learn how to take control of that?

Well, the one thing is that we have to recognize that we have this ability to control our life. So we have. There is a very strong dominant worldview that has been dominant for 350 years, but it's really become dominant for the last 80 years with the biomedical model, which basically says you're a biological robot, so you don't have control. That's the message that we're getting through the media. It's in your genes, and it's almost a hopeless message. Well, that's not actually what science says. It's not actually the truth. And science is spirituality. You can't separate them. Science is basically knowledge. God is the source of knowledge. So if we look at what science is telling us, we are looking at what God is telling us through the story of the Bible. So essentially, we need to learn how to understand and get knowledge about what are we doing to our food systems, what are we doing to our. The kind of lifestyles we're living. Social media. What are we doing with our minds? How are we. When you're hitting a bump in your life, what are you doing? Going straight to the doctor to get a tablet? Or are you. Are you suppressing your emotions? Are you cool? Which causes more neurological damage? Are you actually doing something? Are you crying? I call it freaking out in the Love zone. Freak out in the love zone. Admit there's an issue, don't deny. Don't pretend that something's not there. Don't suppress those emotions. And you're also being told by the church incorrectly in a lot of. I'm talking in general.

Right, Right.

Ye just speak the word of faith and not that I'm anti speaking, speaking the powerful word of God. What I am anti is pretending that things don't exist because they do. The reality is you're going through something in your life. Admit that. Do the crying, but freak out in the love zone. That's what I call it, freaking out in the love zone. With the recognition that the substance and evidence to take the scripture you've just quoted, Hebrews 11:1 at the beginning, faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not yet seen. God has supplied all the ingredients of the evidence and substance that we need to exist. It's in this world, it's here, it's around us. God has. What we have to do is access that and bring that into our own life. So we have responsibility, massive responsibility to deal with what we're dealing with. To go through it, to do the crying, but to move on, to do the shouting, but to move on. To express the disappointment, but to move on, to forgive me. That's not what we're doing. Something hits us and we told, oh, you know, it's a disease, go get a tablet. Or, you know, you're going through. You lose a spouse or you lose a child, or you have a. Lose a parent or, you know, you go through a financial crisis. This is life. Your child has this or that or whatever. You can't run and get an antidepressant to deal with it. And that's what's happening in this day and age. Or grab that convenience food on the way to school because you're busy, real busy. Just do busy. Well, you know, and that's what I teach in my book search on your brain. The perfect you is to understand this powerful nature and to make some serious decisions. I don't paint a pretty motivational message of arts. Okay. I actually paint a picture of God made you perfect. You have the blueprints, right?

I don't. I don't think people need more motivation. Like, they don't need more motivation because motivation gets you up. I call it like motivation. Like it's fake. Like it'll get you up and then you come crashing down. So I love that, like you're. You come from that place of love. I Love, freaking out the love zone. I. That is the coolest thing I think I've heard probably in like three years since the last time I talked with you. But I want to talk about because I love that you said everyone's busy. We just do busy. Well, I mean that is so powerful because everyone's got those same circumstances where they could opt to go the stress route and opt to go the negative route. And I truly think, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I truly think the hardest work that we ever need to do is learning to take control of our thoughts and find that rest in God, you know, in that secret place where we can stand on his word. I truly think it's not like how to get our finances straight or how to deal with stress or how to manage our homes, but if we can get the mind game right, I think everything flows out of that.

Absolutely. And you know, that's very much evident in science. Everything comes from the mind and everything in the scriptures as well. You don't. If your soul's not well, nothing else will be. Well, that's bottom line. So you can go for hands and all the church services and all the worship, whatever, and then you go back into life and you're just a wreck. It's 247 lifestyle choice to live in love. And you know, the question that we, that I always like to ask myself and that I throw out there to people is what does love look like in your life? You know, what does it look like? What are you living like? What is love? God is love. It's the source, it's power. You know, the spoke about, they would see that we were connected to a divine spark. And we seeing quantum physics, this exact thing. I talk about this in the perfect you a lot. My book called the perfect you A Blue and for Identity, where I explain about how we come from this divine spark and how quantum physics confirms that, that we, we are being sustained by this energy force from God. And we can choose to realize that love looks like this, which is, you know, all the time. You know what love. All of us instinctively know what love looks like. Or we can be judgmental and angry and aggressive and whiny and moaning, you know, your choice. But if you do that, there is a consequence. You know, it's that old, the old, old scripture. And I say old because we all say it and don't think about it properly. I lay before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Choose life. But then you listen to people's conversation and they are whining. Complaining, moaning. This is bad. That's bad. I have no control. I've got this, I've got that. Justify the medication, justify this. And I'm not talking about medication for like diabetes or heart disease, a genuine physical disability. I'm talking about taking medications to manage mind issues. That's not going to help. We have to shape, go through our suffering. It shapes us. And you know, that kind of thing.

And it really does come down to us. Like you said, like, God lays before us. He has everything all set up. It's a finished work through Jesus. He's got it all set up. And he's like, now you got to make the choice. Like, he's basically giving us an open book test. Like I said before you, life and death. Look, choose life. Like I'm giving you the answers to the quiz. Choose life that you may live. But here's the problem that I think a lot of people, especially moms, because we're so busy and because we're so close to the circumstances, sometimes being able to get out of that toxic thinking and into a more positive realm is such a challenge. And I know that you help people do that. And if someone is dealing with that, they're like, Dr. Leaf, I don't know how to do this. I've been thinking this way for so long. I've been living below my circumstances. I've been, you know, whining and griping and complaining and I'll catch myself. But how do I turn it around? Like, how? And I want you to share like some of those. You see what happens when someone stops the toxic thinking and starts developing in a positive way. How do, how do we take that first step? What do we have to do?

Well, the realization is, the first step is to realize that your mind controls your brain. Your mind is different from your brain. And I'm stressing that because most people don't get that your mind is not your brain. Your brain is not your mind. Your mind uses your brain as a substrate through which to work. So you, your memories are stored in your brain and whatever you think about, you build into your brain. And that's what you speak from. So the first thing is to realize that. The second thing is to realize that what are you thinking about? To stand back and observe your own thinking and then to start a process of daily working through change and realizing that change is not something that happens overnight and not, it's not going to happen with someone. Just, you know, going to someone. You got to fix your own issues. We then support each other and we love each other and we support each other. But I can't fix your problem. Only you can fix your problem. And that's where God comes in. You choose to follow God. And that's why I developed the 21 day brain detox, which is based on the science of how you break down a toxic pattern and how you build up a healthy new pattern.

You know, right now, since you mentioned the 21 day brain talk, brain Detox, where did they go for that?

The site is simple. 21daybrainedetox.com and it's an online program. We just did a challenge actually in January where if you join my YouTube channel, you'll see these 21 videos. I actually walked through the first three weeks of January with thousands of thousands of people around the world where I was taking one of my issues. And I told him daily that gave feedback daily of what I was experiencing. So people got that as an extra support. And that's free. That's if they just subscribe to my YouTube channel. The 21 day detox is not expensive at all. I mean, it's 29.99 for an entire year subscription.

And that is like nothing like, if you're dealing with. If you don't get the mind game right, nothing in your life is going to go right. So this is a ridiculous bargain. Like, this is. This is like a gift that you're giving to people.

So I mean, it's exactly in this video is the. It's the hardcore science. These five steps that you do each day for seven minutes, I'm going to walk you through step by step. And it's transformational. You literally are rewiring your brain yourself to bring the thought into captivity, to capture that thought and to rewire your brain. And it's an ongoing lifestyle. So this is not something you do for 21 days. This is something you do in cycles of 21 days for the rest of your life.

Right? For the rest of your life. And that's what I want to call attention to because you said, you know, this is not something that happened overnight. Negative thinking is not something that happened overnight. And so don't think. You know, I've tried this for three weeks and I'm still struggling. It's three weeks like this. You're thinking that you're going to overcome like decades of negative thinking and toxic thoughts in three weeks. But this is where we start and we don't move from that. You know, that's kind of like the farmer going out and planting seed and going Out a week later. I don't see anything. That's it, the fields. It's not working. Let's go to a different farm.

You know, people don't push through. You know, that's one thing. We often get people emailing us or making comments that I, I did the 21 day detox. And then I'll say, but what do you mean you did, you should, you should be saying the comments should be. I am doing.

Yes.

God didn't say, you know, the Bible doesn't say renew your mind. Once off it's renewing, you know, so it's a lifestyle. So the 21 day detox is the science of how to renew your mind. So it's how to life start based on the science of how your brain builds memory and how you break down toxic thoughts and basically rewire your brain. So that's an ongoing lifestyle and that's how you can prevent getting into the trap of dying. 15 to 25 years younger is changing your mind, which changes your brain, which changes your health, which changes how you freak out in the love zone. All those things combined together, you just become human again. You know, you become what it means to be human, which is walking love.

I love it. It's kind of like remembering who you really are.

Exactly. The blueprint of your identity.

Yeah, yeah. That is so beautiful. Now you were talking about your YouTube series and you would share something that happened in your life or some issue and what did, what do you think is the issue that most people identified with if you would share that?

I couldn't even begin to tell you because everyone is so unique. The law of the brain. And so there's, you know, you can take a general adjective like self esteem. The concept of self esteem is paramount across the globe because if we, if we recognize like my book that's called the Perfect Jew. The subtitles are blueprint for our identity. We've got a phenomenal identity, a unique identity. We all know that, but there's science behind it too. The law of the brain is diverse. When we operate according to the design of our brain activates, we're not going to have a self esteem issue. If you have a self esteem issue, you're going to be jealous, envious. More people die annually from lack of love and lack of low self esteem, loneliness than from any other disease. So you know that. So that's paramount. If I had to take sort of maybe an underlying. But it's still how that presents in each person's life is completely unique. What is bad for one person everyone's experiences. So there's no one these big adjectives. You can say guilt and shame and self esteem and these are big words. But why you've got self esteem issues, why you've got guilt, why you've got sheep, you know, those are just. You can't say I have shame. You have to be specific. And that's the one thing I say with the 21 day detox and that what I did with my patients is the more specific you are, the quicker your healing will come. You know, you're not just going to give a broad umbrella term. You've got to dig down to the why, the how, the nuts and the belts bolts. And that takes time.

Right.

Most people give up at day four because it gets too hard. You have. It takes 21 days to break down a long term memory. It takes 21 days to build a long term memory. It takes at least 63 to 84 to build a habit. And that's daily. That's a daily perseverance. If you're doing something consistently it means that you have spent more than 84 days on that. You know, so just what are you thinking about the most? Right.

That's so powerful. Now something else that I want to make sure everyone understands that Dr. Leaf is. She's not someone who has some really great ideas. But this is like you are the research guru. You are incredible because when you first started with this, when you first tackled the whole scientific industry and said you know what, you're not a product of your brain, your mind can change your brain. You were at that time, you were like a brand new voice in the whole field. And I'm sure people were like no, no, that's not how we do things. And you proved like with your work and the therapy, with your own clients, with your, with your own patients, you proved no, like we transformed the way they think and they actually rewired their brain. This is not just a great idea, this is like research driven.

Exactly, exactly. And that's we and I'm currently I work with a team of doctors like professionals which you can see on my website drleke.com and these we're doing clinical trials, we're starting a whole big study that's going to be a sort of three part study. We still showing the mind brain connection in the neurology practice. I mean we showing. I constantly do research to show that your mind can change your brain. We talk about having a love and powerful mind. It's not a joke. The thing is that when you Talk about love and God and uniqueness. These are all very nice terms, but unless you actually understand them, you're going to still be living in two zones. One is okay, go to church and say that or go to your study group and say that. And then you go into life and your life's falling apart. We can't have that.

No, no.

Be serious about what does love look like then? It's a 24, 7 constant thing. So when we fall, we fall and, and we freak out in the love zone. We don't keep, you know, we don't shift. We've got to have a consistency, consistency to somehow we function. So that's also what I'm trying to teach with all my programs. You've got quite a million. I've got a lot of books and programs and the 21 day brain detox and the site, by the way, I was saying the site and got distracted. It's 21daybrain detox.com that's where the online is when you do that. I'm trying to train people to live a consistent renewed lifestyle. You constantly aware of your choices and your thinking and as a parent, as a mother, as a wife, as a friend, as a whatever. How you living your life.

Now? We're going to hit home with a lot of moms right now because I want you to share the problem with multitasking.

Okay? So multitasking we have an unconscious level in the conscious level. Our conscious level of our mind is only operating when you're awake. And that conscious level cannot multitask. The non conscious level is quantum in nature. So it doesn't isn't bound by space and time. So it doesn't have the same laws or rules applying to it. So on an unconscious level, an example would be just how your body's functioning and your heart beating and so on. But. And another part of an unconscious level is your actual mind. All your memories, all your entire, the units of who you are, the core of who you are. That is all operating on an unconscious level. Every time we build a habit which takes at least 63 days, it goes into an unconscious level and influences how you functioning. For example, initially you are very aware of everything and then now you get in the car and you just drive. It doesn't mean you're not thinking. It means that you're very powerful, very dominant. Non conscious mind is actually driving is what's coming is moving into the conscious mind and that's what's driving. That's what you're using to drive multitasking isn't even fast enough in unconscious level. Multitasking is a word that is kind of misunderstood. Multi means a lot and we have a lot of tasks, but we don't do them together. The implication is I can do a lot of stuff at once. As I said, your heart's beating now. You're not thinking about that. You're not thinking about that when you're driving. You are doing. You're doing the actual driving, but it's being driven by your non. But if you start talking on the phone while you're driving, you are not multitasking. You are doing busy badly. Because we cannot physically.

Oh, that's good.

Cannot physically as humans multitask. It's a misnomer because you can't do consciously on the conscious level. You can't do more than one thing properly at a time. And if you think you can, your intelligence has actually just dropped and is dropping. Where the research shows that when you think you can do two things at once, like concentrate on reading and driving, plus actually talk on the phone or answer an email, you're doing both badly and you're actually causing brain damage and you're putting yourself in the car. You know there's a chance of having an accident, but you're just not going to do either task well. So the point is to do busy well. And I talk about this in my book switch on your brain, where you shift between tasks. You don't slow down, you just basically shift between tasks more efficiently if you don't finish one thing, like if the phone goes and you see it's your kids and it's emergency or something like that, and you're driving, obviously you know there's an emergency, try and pull off on the side of the road and answer the call or whatever. And I'm trying to say is to finish one thing at a time, as opposed to you on the computer, you're working on something and then a text comes up. Don't try and read the text and do what you're doing, read the text, go back or don't even pay attention to the text or something like that. Just it's doing busy. Well, it's doing just.

You work fast and you're doing busy badly. And I think that's a problem that a lot of moms are dealing with is because so many things are coming at us at once and we'll try to handle everything and then we. We just get overwhelmed and we handle everything poorly. I remember one thing that really helped me is in order for me to let my children know they were hugely important to me. If something was going on, I would say, hold on one second, because I want to give you my full attention and be able to. Not just because I think moms sometimes when their kids are talking to them, they'll be like, huh, huh? And they don't hear anything because their thoughts are somewhere else. And that's part of taking control of your thoughts too, is being able to allocate them, allocate your resources in the appropriate direction. And that's just something that. Again, you say that it takes time to rewire your brain. And when I read your first book, this was, you know, switch on your. Before you even had the cool new book. Like, you had, like the workbook, you know, I'm talking about. It was just how you changed the whole scientific industry, really. Talking about neuroplasticity. And I. I just think that is amazing. It's just amazing to me the power that we have over our neural functioning. So could you describe what. What neuroplasticity is for anyone who does not know that? And just the power that we have to totally transform our brains?

Sure, with pleasure. First of all, just to coming just to. I'll pick up on the multitasking neuroplastic.

Yeah.

I'm a mother of four. My four kids are very close in age. So, you know, a lot of people say, well, you don't have kids. I do. I have four. I've grown masters and PhD. I've run a business while I had. I've never stopped. I've been breastfeeding and lecturing at the same, you know, breastfeeding my child, handed to the child, to someone.

If I could give you a high five, I would do that right now.

I understand what it means to be busy and yes, we will make mistakes, but you can shift your attention quickly into training. And that's neuroplasticity. Neuro means brain. Plastic means to change. We are designed to change the way we function, the way our brain functions. Our brain doesn't dictate to us. And so even if you feel you've been controlled by your brain, you've made that decision to be controlled by your brain. So you're not good. So you actually don't have to be driven by your physical reactions. You have to take in if you're feeling bad, are you feeling physically bad or whatever. It doesn't mean you have to submit to that. You can control how you handle that situation. You've got to work out. So there's no one. Neuroplasticity means that the way you think is going to change the structure of your brain and your brain is constantly changing. So on a moment by moment basis, you can create your next reality. So if you're in a toxic cycle, you can stop that. If you've got a. If you go crazy with all your kids at once or whatever, I don't know what's going on in your life. You don't have to stay like that. You don't have to say, oh, I've got so many kids, I can't cope. You don't have to do that. Or you can. So by saying I can't, you're actually changing your brain to I can't, I can work out, okay, what do I need to make this work for me? What does taking the time out, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and then you can actually redesign and in practice, over 21 days. So neuroplasticity involves a change that is going to be sustainable. So your brain keeps changing, but sustainable change happens over time. So long term memory takes 21 days to build of daily work and a habit takes a minimum of 63 to 84. And so all of that's in the Switch on youn brain book, the 21 Day Brain Detox, and then also my new book, the Perfect you Blueprint for Identity. And the food book. I have that food book. Think and Eat Yourself Smart. All of those work around the principles of time involved to change how you eat, how you think, all the lifestyle stuff, how you managing.

Basically we have more control than we give ourselves credit for because God breathes in his creative spirit in us like he blessed us and we are supposed to be operating in the blessing. And so many times, and I'm sure this bothers you as well, Dr. Leaf. So many times we see people say, God, help me do this and God needs to come through for me here. And God, please change. And he's like, do it like, I have already established everything you need in order to make this happen. But we have got to step up and take charge of that and take control of our toxic thinking.

And we all know that. And what's interesting to note, Sir Roger Penrose is an Oxford mathematician and he's amazing. And he has actually done the calculations to show that the universe are embedded in space time dimensions. And I explain this in the perfect view. What in Hebrews 11:1, it talks about substance and evidence of what we hope for, what we haven't yet seen. So what's in the future? What's coming Coming up in your next moment, your next day or next week, the next year, the ingredients of that already exist in space, time, placed there by God. So all the, all the ingredients of success for how to manage your life exist. What you have to do is bake the cake. So you have.

That is brilliant.

You have to step in and access and choose how to access and that to your mind. So what does it mean? What does it mean to see, stand back, observing, thinking, change, access, step in. God is not going to throw the cake at you. You choose the cake of your life. You choose the ingredients, you bake the cake. Use your intelligence, use your reasoning. You know, we. Brilliant, right? We can think, we can reason, and there's a lot of Christian teaching that we've got to just sit back, God's going to bring it to us. Don't admit there's an issue in your.

Life, you know, otherwise he would not have said, behold, I put before you life and death. He wouldn't have said that. He was like, hey, why don't you just go sit down in your easy chair and I'll stick it in your lap. Otherwise, he's taken free will away from us. We can operate in our free will and we can get our butts in the kitchen and get all those ingredients that he already established through Jesus. When Jesus said it's finished, it was done. All the ingredients are there and we need to learn how to get in the kitchen and make the cake that we've always dreamed of, because God wants us to live that successful life. And, Caroline, I know in 30 minutes we can hardly even scratch the surface of all that you represent and how you are transforming lives, how you are helping people access the power to transform their lives, really. And so I'm just. I love this. I love everything that you're about and I want people to get plugged into this. So would you suggest, in order to show them how to get in the kitchen and make an awesome cake, would you suggest for them to go to 21 day brain detox?

That's a great place to start because it's practical. And then I would also recommend to get the Spirit Mind Body combination, which is the Switch on youn Brain Book, which has also got the written version of the 21 day brain detox. So Switch on youn Brain Book with the online version, which is the 21 day brain detox. So an online means they can do it on their computer, on the iPhone, on their tablet. So there's the book with all the understanding of doing Busy World and how mind changes brain. And the second half of the book's got the 21 day brain detox. And in addition to that, there's the online program that then walks them through with all the videos. So you've got both. Then there's the past you, which is identity, which is a book and there's an online program. So once again the two working together. And then there's the Think Eat yourself smart book showing you how to in 63 days to transform your physical body. Dealing spirit, soul, body perfect. You're dealing with your spiritual transformation, understanding how you function etc, your the science behind that. The switch on your brain is the whole mind detox stuff. And then these thinking eat yourself smart is the whole physical.

How do you look after you got everything covered? You. You covered it all. Would they go to DrLeaf.com Dr. Leaf.com's.

Got all the books, all the onlines and all the places. So that. That the spiritual body combination. That's what I call it. That kind of is it all together.

All right. I am definitely like I have a couple of your books, but one, the one program that I don't have is the Think and eat yourself smart. So I'm going to get that. I want people, let me just tell you, if you are listening to this and you're dealing with, you don't know how to create that successful life. You don't know how to get control of your thoughts if you don't change, if you don't make a change, nothing's going to change. Dr. Leaf basically is giving you the entire recipe book on how to get in the kitchen and make your life successful. So get every program, invest in yourself. Like do something to change your thoughts so that you can change your life. All right. You hear that? Are you going to like, I want to order that before the day's over. Like I'm telling them like this, this is going in before the day's over because I love everything that you're doing and I love how your heart is to see people's lives transformed. So thank you so much, Dr. Lake. Thanks for hanging out with us. And you are the bomb. Thank you so much.

So thank you. Thank you for the honor.

Oh, it's been a joy. Be blessed like crazy.

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