15 Mistresses Later & We're Still Together! | KARAMO

So Karamo, we've been together for 6 years.

Okay.

Throughout those 6 years, I could probably tell you I probably chased and confronted maybe 10 to 15 hoes throughout the 6 years. We have 2 beautiful kids together. We got 3 kids all together, but 2 kids together. I am a family person. So this literally, this is our last stop because he was cheating on me when I was pregnant. That's the worst. We tried to talk about it. He said he changed. He wants to go towards marriage, but no.

And y'all have 3 kids together, you said?

We have 3 kids, yes.

And how many years y'all been together?

We've been together 6 years.

6 years.

Yes.

Okay then.

And literally there's 2 hoes for every year.

Oh.

Literally. Literally. Literally.

I'm not trying to laugh.

I know, but yeah, it's serious.

But when you say a 2 hoe per year average, that's a mess, okay? That's, we can't do that. So take me back. How did you guys meet? 6 years ago.

So I made a Facebook post. It was a couple of weeks before Valentine's Day. Basically I just said, you know, us single people, we need to stick together for Valentine's Day. We weren't even mutual friends. He commented on it. So we just kind of had an exchange on the comment section. Then we moved to the Messenger. And then after that we kind of, we hit it off. Everything was going good. It was like the love bombing stage, you know, basically. We did move fast. He moved in with me. First couple of, like, first 2 months I got pregnant, that's when everything went downhill. He started treating me different. He started calling me out my name, doing all this, staying out, staying out with his friends.

So it's as if like the real him showed up.

Yeah, basically, yeah. Like he had an agenda or something. But yeah, everything went downhill. Like, I don't wanna cry, but.

Yeah, yeah. But no, it's an emotional moment because like you're telling me that you find someone love bombing you, they're telling you how special you are, how amazing you are, and then you share a moment where you conceive a child and then all of a sudden the behavior changes and you start to be treated just exactly—

Totally different, yes.

Yeah, that's an emotional thing. Yes. What names did he call you?

Bitches, hoes, sluts, fat, bad built. This is all while I'm pregnant. I had 3 kids and for you to come and tell me you're fat, you're bad built, look at you. The hoes that he cheated on me with, don't look nothing like me. So I'm like, am I even your type?

Tell me about the text you found.

So went through the phone, saw messages that he was trying to hook up with some girl. Somehow, I don't know, he was in the process of trying to go have sex with her. But I confronted him with the text messages. At first he said it wasn't him, it was his cousin using his phone. That's an excuse. But he didn't go through with it.

And you ended up catching Justin cheating again?

Yes, right, yeah. A little bit after that, I know for a fact he had sex with somebody else because I saw the text message exchanges. They were talking about naming the baby, naming if they had a baby together, naming that, like, yeah. So I know that they slept together.

And then videos as well?

The videos, yes. I found sex videos of him and a girl in the motel and it was multiple videos. So he thought he deleted them. You know you could delete messages, but if you don't delete it out the trash, they're still there. So I went to the trash. That's where I saw all the videos, all the pictures of multiple girls in different videos and it was sexual, it was sexual videos.

Can I ask you a question? After seeing Justin have sex with other women in videos, why did you not grab your things and leave?

I wanted to, I wanted to, but I'm a family person. At this point, when I saw that we had, that's when we had our second daughter. So at that point I'm like, if you're not gonna be with me, just tell me. But he's literally, he cried to me in my face saying he's gonna change. He doesn't want nobody else, he wants his family. He wants us. So that me, I have a big heart. Like my grandma told me, I'm cursed. I have a big heart. I'm gonna love you until you make me hate you. And so that's why I told him, I said, please do not make me love you all the way till you make me hate you. 'Cause I did not wanna get to that point with you. We have kids together. We have to have a relationship regardless if we're together or not. But I told him like, Yeah, that. It hurts because I know, because I know he loves me, I feel it. I feel that he loves me, I know he wants his family. And I know his background, and so me knowing his background is why I don't give up on him so easy. I know he's a good, he's a great father. I would never take that away from him. He's there for his kids, provider, everything, he does everything for them, it's just me. It's just he doesn't, I don't know what it is about me. I don't know if he loves me.

Yeah. I know if you can hear, I don't know if you can hear the family in the audience. We all have complete empathy for you, but we all are feeling the same thing. He don't love you. And of course I gotta hear his side of the story, but from what you're detailing, everybody's saying that. He don't love you, right? This not love. It's not love. You heard what they said? Repeat it again for her. You are beautiful, you are amazing. You hear this? Thank you. Justin turned over his phone to my unlock the phone investigator and you want to know if Justin has a specific list of women's contacts in his phone, if Justin has been online communicating with any of the women from that list and where he was last March. Yes. That's something else you wanna know?

Yes.

What was so significant about last March?

So last year was a very hard year for me. I lost my grandpa who raised me. And then right after I lost him, I lost two of my favorite uncles. So all of that happened in March.

Got it.

And then at that time, I also found that he was talking to somebody too as well.

Got it. Well, it's time to meet Justin and hear his side of the story and see what he has to say about everything. So everyone, please welcome Justin to the show. How you doing, Justin? Have a seat for me. Good, thank you. Yeah. All right, Justin, so what do you have to say about what you heard? You know what I mean? Like—

Sounds about, summed it up somewhat.

So it's true?

Yeah.

Okay. So there's nothing that she came out here and said that was a lie?

I mean, like in the beginning when we first, first started talking, you know what I mean? It was like everything was happening so fast. You feel me? This is what I was asking for, but at the same time it was happening so fast that it was hard to believe that it was actually real.

Got it.

I told him in the beginning of the relationship what I wanted, what I was looking for.

Yes, he did.

There was no reason for him to even believe there was any games being played or nothing like that. I came with, told him the truth from the beginning. This is what I want. I want a relationship. I'm not playing no games.

Got it.

And I heard that. I had just got outta prison. When I went to prison, I ended up going to prison behind somebody who I was in a long-term relationship before her.

So your trust, you had trust issues?

I had a whole lot of trust abandonment. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was just, I'd rather not go through this. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

How long were you in prison for?

I did 3 years. It wasn't like, I got outta jail with an agenda. It wasn't even against her, it was just against every woman after her. She a great woman. I mean, she deserve more than I can give her, but I wanna be able to give her more than what I can.

Okay, okay. So tell me about the first time you cheated.

The first time I cheated, there was so many incidents I can't even really remember. You know what I mean? But if I'm not mistaken, the first time I cheated, I didn't get to go all the way through with it because she caught me.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

But yeah, it wasn't even, I just, it was a booty call.

Got it.

An attempted booty call.

Yeah. You tell my producers that Fatima used you as eye candy. What does that mean?

Yeah, in the beginning, that's what I felt like. That's the only thing she wanted from me. She didn't know me. We didn't know each other from Adam and Eve.

Mm-hmm.

You made a Facebook post. I commented on the post. And you was, oh, you know what I mean? I'm looking at it like, yeah, she's throwing a line and I'm the fish, you know what I mean? She thinks she fishing, but I'm also fishing.

Mm-hmm. But that's not, no, that's not, that was not the case. I don't need to throw out no bait to catch anybody. I wasn't doing that for that purpose. So there's no real, I'm not, I've never used you for eye candy. I don't even know where you even got that from.

Do you think she's straying and cheating in the relationship? Strain?

Nah, I don't even worry about that at all.

Okay, okay, okay. Do you love her?

Yes.

Okay, you do love her? Yes. Okay, what's your definition of love? And I ask you that in all sincerity because as a man who's had deep trust issues and abandonment issues and been hurt deeply by women, your definition of love can be skewed and you might not even realize it.

Yeah, and my definition, from my understanding, is two people feeling sorry for each other. Literally.

Yeah. Yeah. I hear that. Okay.

And that's the reason why I haven't—

This baby gotta grow up again.

Given up on him because I know his past.

That's why you haven't given up on him?

I know how he was raised and we come from two totally different backgrounds.

Well, why does that become your job to fix him? 'Cause you know, one of the things that I've said on this show many times is that the minute you try to start fixing somebody, what happens inadvertently is they will break you.

And that's exactly what happens.

It's what happens.

That's exactly what happens.

I know you two have two daughters together. What would you do if your daughter was dating a man who engages in the behavior you're engaging in? What would you do?

I wouldn't be going for it.

Yeah, okay. I just wanna make sure. But you came here for a reason, to unlock the phone to get your answers. We already got the answers, but you wanna know really what's in the phone. Yeah. Okay, so let's do it. It's time to unlock the phone. Justin, we're unlocking the phone. Your phone. All right, Votima, you wanna know if Justin has a specific list of women in his contacts. Justin says he does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his phone and found that Justin is not telling the truth. Justin has all 5 women names saved in his contacts. All right, Votima, you wanna know if Justin has been communicating online with any of those women that you listed. Justin says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his DMs and found that he is not telling the truth. Justin has 4 DMs from 2 different women and he gave his new contact number to one of those women. Who? Who? Vatima, you wanna know if Justin—

Who is it? Who'd you give your new number to?

That's what I said, I don't even know.

Vatima, you wanna know if Justin's whereabouts During March 2024, Justin says he didn't go anywhere. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched the GPS and found that Justin is not telling the truth. He stayed 4 days, March 7th through March 11th, at a Homewood Suites by Hilton. We checked the location. You were pinged there the entire 4 days.

What date?

Hold on.

Oh, and just in case, it's March 7th through March 11th is when you were at the hotel. And just go back, you gave your new contact number to her.

I gave my new contact number to her?

Uh-huh.

When? I thought you said you hadn't talked to her.

Huh?

I thought you said you haven't been talking to her.

I haven't been.

Well, you gave her your new contact.

She had your old number, but she shouldn't have your new number.

This number right here?

Yeah.

She has a new number.

She shouldn't have his number.

Well, we have the text of you giving her your new contact number.

Can we pull that up?

Yeah, we'll give it to you. We're gonna give all that stuff. But Tymal, you wanna know, let's keep going on. But Tymal, you wanna know if Justin has been communicating with any women from her list. Justin says he is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his texts and found he is not telling the truth. My investigator found 91 text exchanges between Justin and 2 women From your list, Fatima, one conversation was talking about a DNA test. Can I see it?

Oh, that's, I know that one.

You said—

That's for a.

When is the DNA? Do you want a DNA test or can we go ahead and figure out what steps we need to be taking after this? Because I'm not trying to hear no 10-year-later pop-up. Okay, so you already knew that he was talking about DNA?

Yeah, I knew, I know about this 'cause She's the one claiming they have a baby.

Okay. Okay, well these are all the text messages that you'll be able to read, the ones that we talked about before. There's a whole booklet in it.

But I wanna know where she get your number, your new number.

Which number, babe? 343?

Okay. Yeah, 343.

But also just like last month, also did do a web search for pregnant mom newborn care, caring online. That was a web search.

Pregnant mom newborn care?

Yeah, you searched on the web last month, early last month, pregnant mom newborn care.

What is it?

That's a website you went to looking for, searching for pregnant moms newborn care. So you were looking for information.

I don't recall that.

It's all in the phone. But I mean, honestly, we already had the answers to all this. We already had all the answers to this. Justin, I asked you a real question. I even empathize with you. I really do. And it's sad because under other pretenses, 'cause if you would've been able to be honest with her, there could have been more of a conversation of me trying to give you some tools of how to heal. But unfortunately we came here for unlocking the phone, so we can't focus on that. But I will tell you at the end of the day, the question I asked you about your daughters, this is real. These girls are going to model and go after whatever men that they see in the house. And so, and it might not be a direct model, but there will be aspects of your personality and how you treat their mother that unconsciously they will go after. That's just human nature. What we see, we then mimic. I would encourage you to be alone, to spend some time alone. Don't get with no women because by the people that hurt you in your mind, women, by going back to them and trying to find a woman that's going to not do that, all you're doing is retriggering yourself. But until you believe that all women out there are not bad, you're gonna keep doing this to every single woman you come across. So now that I got that, I'm gonna ask you to leave the stage really quickly for me 'cause I'm gonna have a chat with her. Yeah. Now girl, you called the show or he called the show?

I called the show.

So you called the show, so you already know what's about to happen now. When I ask him to leave, this is the real. Yeah. Okay? Come on now. This man has been telling you from day one who he is and what he's doing. You know, and I hear you earlier that you said, I'm a family person, I want a family person, but wanting a family does not mean that you have to give up your self-worth. You understand?

Yeah.

Yes, sir.

You said you've been chasing 10 to 15 hoes, chased and confronted. The only thing you need to be chasing and confronting from here on out is your self-worth and self-esteem.

Yes, sir.

So what is it gonna take you to leave? Because let me tell you right now, he is not changing. No, no, no, no. You can ask about women, you can ask about this, he is not changing. So if he's not changing, are you gonna change?

I have to for my kids. I know I'm not being the best mother I am just because of this situation. Like, this situation is bringing me down to where I know I'm not being the best mother that I'm supposed to be for my kids just because of how depressed I am. I barely get outta bed in the morning. So if something has to give, this was our last chance.

Yeah.

So something has to give. And this is it.

Well, it's not y'all's last chance. Y'all gotta be done.

Yeah.

I told you before, you keep trying to fix this man and he's gonna continue to break you. You cannot fix broken men because all they will do is break you. You deserve more. Can you say that?

I deserve more.

Yes, you do. We are praying and rooting for you and him. This is gonna be your first step. Get rid of him and then we gonna get you some programs to build the self-esteem and then that dream you want will become your reality. Okay? Yes, sir. Yes. All right, listen. All right, friends, stay with us. We'll be right back for more.