$70 Ruined Our Relationship! | KARAMO

So you found out your husband was cheating?

Yes, I played Inspector Gadget on his ass.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you found out.

Yeah.

So how did you find out?

My spidey senses.

Uh-huh, you just kind of had a sense?

Well, we got in an argument and he left home for like 5 days or so. And one night I couldn't sleep and I got in my car and I just went to all the little spots where I know he hang out at and I spotted him.

Got it, okay.

Bingo.

Got it, you saw him. I'm not gonna ask him.

Yeah.

So he was with a girl and they got in the truck and when they got in the truck, they went to his sister's job, picked her up from work, took the sister home. And when they took the sister home, the sister's face was like kind of disgusted with him or whatever.

You could see that when she got in the car?

Of course. So I saw him and the girl, they were walking. So I parked my car far back And then I followed him. I'm walking too, but I'm like—

Yeah, yeah, you wanna see.

Yeah, where the hell you taking her? Who is this?

Yeah.

You know, and so I went and I saw him go to a school, like a little school, and there's a field in the back, in the side of the school, and it's like hedges. So I went behind the hedges, I didn't let him see me. I went behind the hedges and I was looking at everything. Everything. And—

So what they doing behind the hedges?

They were fucking. Oh!

Mm-mm, mm-mm. How you keep your composure?

I cried. Karamo, the tears just came down. They just kept pouring down, pouring down. Like, how could you do this to me?

Of course.

Like, we've been together all, like, over 30, almost 30 years.

30?

Almost.

Almost 30 years.

We've been knowing each other 30 years.

30 years.

We've been married 8.

8 years married.

2 more years would've been our 10-year anniversary.

Yeah. So did you ever confront them that night?

No, I confront— Well, this what happened. So I left before, 'cause I saw he had nothing did to do. And so I tried to beat them back to my car. So I parked my car, I moved my car and I parked it like closer to where his sister building is. And I just sat in the car and I waited and they came upstairs. I saw the girl first, then I saw him and then I noticed he spotted my car. And so I got, I climbed out the passenger window and I went like to the elevator.

Yeah.

'Cause if I would've opened the door, the light would've came on, he would've really knew it was my car.

Yeah.

So I waited on the side of the elevator and I seen the elevator open and it was the girl.

Uh-huh.

And so she was like, I was, she was like, "Um, excuse me, can you give me a ride home? I was with some guy and he got mad because I didn't wanna have sex with him. And so he told me I had to leave." And I was like, "Yeah, I'll give you a ride. I sure will." And I was like, "Well, what you paying for the ride?" She was like, "$20." So she gets in the car. Karamo, she gets in my car.

Uh-huh. You see my face?

I'm like— Baby, listen.

Yeah.

If I was anything like I used to be, you feel me?

So I was like, "No." Don't people be saying not getting the healed version of you? I think that sometimes, all the time, I'm like, "Baby, you got the healed version of me." If you would've met me—

That's me.

If you would've met me— A little bit back, baby. They would've got it, okay? But so she got in the car.

What happened next?

She got in the car and so I'm drilling her. I'm like, "You went just up those stairs with my husband?" "No, no, no." And then I hit the sternum. I was like, "Bitch, stop lying." Yeah. "I got pictures of you and my husband together. I got da da da." And so she, I really didn't have no pictures, but I did have a video. So I start pulling my phone out, start recording and she's like, "I'm sorry, I didn't know he was married." And I was like, "You do now." Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hold on, we have a clip of an audio clip 'cause you brought it and gave it. I wanna hear it.

Yes.

So yeah, we have a little bit of the audio of the confrontation with you. The other woman. Let's take a listen.

You to tell me where you fuck my husband at. Where you fuck at? Tell me. And he paid you how much? What he told you his name was? J1? And you a prostitute? Look at the camera before I spaz out, bitch. Bitch, and you a prostitute. And he seen me come over there in the complex. He— you out there talking to him. Where y'all was when y'all was out there? Where y'all was? Because y'all wouldn't— I ain't see nobody out there when I— so that mean you was in her house. See, if I wouldn't have told you I had a picture of y'all up them stairs— you kept telling me the third floor, bitch. I ain't stupid though. I ain't stupid though, hoe. I saw everything.

But hold on, okay, so baby, listen. Okay.

I saw everything.

But hold on, this not one thing. So I understand the anger, but once you found out she was a sex worker, she didn't have no idea who your man was, why you still mad at her?

I'm not mad at her.

Okay, okay, 'cause you was cussing her out.

Because I want—

Okay, 'cause I—

I'm cussing her out to get more information.

More information, okay.

'Cause I wanna know where he met you at, how he met you.

You wanna know all that, okay, you got it.

I wanna know, like, I did feel sorry for her.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I still wanted that information.

Yeah, you wanted the information, no, that makes sense.

Yeah, I wanted the information.

So did you ever confront him?

Yes, the next day. So he's like, "Oh, bae, I was sleep." I say, "Okay, you need to wake the fuck up." You know what I'm saying? You need to wake up.

Oh yeah, right now.

Immediately. Okay, so he was like, "Well, what's going on?" I was like, "Nothing, we need to talk." And I said, "Where were you last night?" He was like, "Oh, I was at the casino." And I looked at him, I looked at him, I said, "James." "You got one more time to tell me another lie and I'm gonna punch you in your throat." So he was like, "Baby, I'm sorry, I'm sorry." So he already knew I knew 'cause he saw my car.

Of course. And you said you've been together for 30 years of knowing each other.

Yes.

But 8 years together married.

Yes.

And how long would you say of the 30 you've been dating?

18?

18 years. And have you suspected him cheating ever in the past?

Yes, there was this other incident where I was going through his phone and the girl called back the next day, but I called from off my phone, Karamo. And she was like, "Yeah, your man been giving me money, paying my bills, this and that." Yeah, mm-hmm.

So?

And her mom was in the background.

She was like, "Yeah, 'cause I came with her to pick up the money." Hold on. Well, sis, time for a heart-to-heart. You know how I am on this show. We gotta keep it real.

Yes.

If he did it before in the past, he's still doing it now, why you stay with him?

The first time he didn't cheat. He just gave her money.

From what you know.

No, I talked to her too.

Oh, you showed up to the interview?

I talked to her too.

And her mom like, "No, my daughter ain't sleep with him 'cause we always together." Then what about the second time when you know that it's happening? I saw it.

Yeah, so why would you stay?

Karamo, I do know my worth. I do know my worth. I love him. I'm 48. I've been with this, this man is like my best friend. We could talk about stuff, but the scary stuff, he just scared to tell me. You know what I'm saying?

But— So if he would've said to you, "I am wanting to explore. I wanna try some different things," you would've been okay with that conversation?

Hell yeah, 'cause I wanted to explore too.

Okay. Yeah. What you mean?

You don't take me on no dates. Like once we got married, it's like everything stopped. All the fun stopped. Everything that we were supposed to do like a husband and wife. You don't give me no money, but you got $70 to pay a prostitute for some ass. Yes, like make it make sense, Karamo.

Can I tell y'all something? This is one thing that y'all don't know. And this is like for a quick thing. I can't tell you how many couples I've counseled get married and within 5 years, this is the thing that happens. Like the intimacy goes away, the romance goes away. All of a sudden now it's like the male feels like, oh, you're not giving me sex at home because of sex and now I'm exploring outside. It is a common theme. And it's like, I wish people could just have what you said is so real. If he would've not had the fear and just said, "Let's talk." Yeah, that's it.

Just tell me, tell me what. Okay, I know we getting older, but you older than me. All I want is love, loyalty, and respect. That's it. That's all I want.

I hear you.

So do you wanna save your marriage?

I'm trying to save my marriage 'cause I love him.

Mm-hmm.

Okay. Well, I think it's time to meet Erica's husband, James, and get his side of the story. So everyone, welcome James to the show. How you doing, James?

Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

All right, and you?

I'm good, thank you.

Yes, sir.

So did you have an encounter with a sex worker a month ago?

Yes, sir.

You did?

I did, but it wasn't no relationship thing. It was like a friendship.

Well, it was sex. It wasn't a friendship.

No, we didn't have sex or none of that. We did not have sex.

The woman on the audio, she confessed to having sex with you for $7.

Oh, from the part where I—

We talking about the first bitch.

Yeah.

The first person was the person what you accused me of. But were working to my job and I did not have sex with her.

Right, she told me that part, but that's still a form of cheating.

Yes, it is, sir.

And then the second one, you had sex with her?

I did have sex with her, Karamo.

What led up to you cheating?

Because every time we have an argument, she wanna put me out the house, she cusses me out around people, and I feel that she treat me less than—

I feel like you need to man up. You a grown-ass man.

You older than me.

And you supposed to do things a man's supposed to do for his lady.

You know what I'm saying? Yes, you right about that. You don't take me nowhere.

You don't spend no time with me. You don't do shit for me, but you got $70 to give a prostitute.

But you can't give me— What you tell me how I don't do nothing for you and I give you money. When? I pay all the bills for us.

You do.

And everything. Now? Yes, now.

What about when I paid them for 10 years?

Well, I ain't have no job then, baby.

Okay, but I carried you.

Yes, you did. You did.

For 10 years.

So I just wanna be clear. You're not blaming her for you cheating, right?

No, I cannot blame her. Okay, got it. Nothing she did wrong. It was all my fault.

So what were you fighting about before this happened?

Well, my daughter and my grandkids called me and asked me, "Dad, we having a little problem at the house. We wanna come up there and live with you." Something he's supposed to discuss with his wife. I told them that it was okay. And I thought it was gonna surprise her because I know how much she loves the kids.

I do love them, but I love me too.

When they came over, can I talk please? So I invited 'em over. But which I was wrong for that 'cause I should've—

This man bought, he went and bought a car. He went and bought a car. And instead of him coming to me, his wife, I'm talking now. Instead of him coming to me, his wife, he goes and put the car in somebody else's name.

I put it in my daughter name because I love her like this. But you don't trust me enough.

I'm the same person carried you 10 years. You don't trust me enough?

I trust you but you get mad at me so much you probably would've took the car. You know what I'm saying? I'm being real about it.

Do you think you've tried to fix the issues you're having with your wife?

No.

No, not really.

Okay, and why haven't you tried to fix them?

Because she too mean.

Okay.

Yeah, she too mean.

I'm not mean. I just have a zero tolerance for.

I got it.

Okay, I mean, listen, I respect that you have a boundary, But if your partner, your husband is telling you that he feels like you're mean, you have to consider that. You have to consider his feelings as well, just as the same way I would make sure that he considers your feelings.

How can I consider his feelings, Karamo, when you out here fucking prostitutes you? You could have kept $70, it could have went to me.

No, listen. That could have went on a date. I am not saying that you're not valid for being angry, but also I asked you before and you said, "I know my worth and I wanna fix my marriage." So if you wanna fix your marriage, I'm just hitting out the key things that I can give you on this stage so that you can understand. If your husband says, "I feel like you're mean," you can't say, "And," and laugh it off.

And?

You can't. You gotta hear him.

I hear him, Karamo. She don't hear me. But he did so much hurtful stuff to me.

Too much.

I cook, I clean, I don't go nowhere. I'm not a part, I'm not a street person.

Do you still want to be with your wife?

I love my wife.

Okay.

I made a mistake. She didn't do nothing wrong.

Yeah.

It's on me. I take full responsibility for it.

Yeah, but you want me to stay. How many more mistakes you gonna make before I have to just say, "Fuck it"?

If you find out that he is still doing stuff, what are you gonna do?

I'm leaving.

You're leaving. Okay. 'Cause we're here to unlock his phone. We're here to unlock your phone to see if you're doing anything else. So I think it's time to unlock your phone, James. All right, Erica, you wanna know if James has been texting other women.

Correct.

James says he has not. My Lockdown Phone Investigator searched his texts and found that James is telling the truth. Erica, you wanna know if James has been on any websites used to solicit sex. James says he has not. My Lockdown Phone Investigator searched his phone and found that James is not telling the truth. My Lockdown Phone Investigators found one website called Cheap?

That's what we doing.

Called Cheap Fort Lauderdale Escorts, last visited on December 19th.

So that's where you met the girl at?

No, I didn't, bro.

Well, how you met her?

I told you, I told you.

'Cause she said it was on a computer.

It wasn't on no computer. I told you I was with my friend and we were riding around. He was finna take me to my sister's job. He spotted the girl, called Cheap Fort Lauderdale.

You so disrespectful, bruh.

That's some nasty load up. That's cheating. I know.

So here we go, let's keep on. Erica, you wanna know if James has been calling other women? James says he's not. My Lock 4 Investigator searched his calls and found that James is not telling the truth. My Lock 4 Investigator. My Lock 4.

That's so , bruh. You so nasty, my . But if I did that to you, you would be on your knees begging for mercy, bruh.

I'm sorry, man.

My Lock 4 Investigator 33 calls to an unsaved number from December 26th to January 22nd, which was recently. Who was that? Well, when we searched the number, my investigator found that it was connected to a woman and we did a back search to go a little deeper and we found out her name is .

Who the ?

See the evidence bag? Who is ?

I don't know nothing about that.

Well, you made a lot of calls to , so you have to know who it is.

Really?

Who's ?

Who is it? It's over. I'm done. You don't embarrass me enough.

So as you can see from just some of the call logs, this is the amount of times that he was calling. So there, it's outgoing and ingoing, outgoing, ingoing. So as you can see, you have to know who is 'cause y'all are communicating a lot.

Who is it?

The same person, babe.

What same person?

Who you say you seen me cheating with.

Oh. So you been talking to her? Still, even afterwards?

No, you see what date she said? The date is not from after that.

The dates are from December 26th to January 22nd, which was the other day. January 22nd.

That was a few days ago. What the fuck is you talking about?

That was January 22nd.

Yeah, okay.

January 22nd.

And what you talking about? I'm done.

That I love my wife.

I love you, it's over, but I'm done. I'm done, 'cause I asked you before we got here, was there anything? And you said no.

It wasn't nothing, babe. And now you just gonna sit in my face and lie? No, I'm not lying to you, babe. It wasn't nothing about our relationship.

It's over with. It's over.

I'm sorry, babe.

Me too. I'm sorry too.

I think the foundation has been cracked to a point of No comment. Because now not only did she catch you with this woman, but now to know that you're still speaking with her, that is just repeatedly disrespectful. And so for us here, this is why I have this, because the transparency, like you can say I don't have it, but we gonna find the call log and we're gonna track and get her name. And so that just shows, you know what I mean? So I'm glad you made the decision. I know you're hurt. I know it's gonna take some time to process this and get it.

I get over it.

Yeah.

Trust me, I done been through worse.

Yeah, Erica, you want love, respect, and loyalty in your relationship, and I know that you love yourself in this relationship, so just you focus on you for a little bit, okay?

I will.

Yeah, okay, focus on you. All right, glad you got your answers. So sorry for all of this, all right? I wish you both the best of luck. I wish you the best of luck.