Accused Of Cheating With My Husband's Best Friend! | KARAMO

Virginia and Carl, married six years, face accusations of cheating. Carl claims Virginia was with his best friend on a trampoline and suspects a construction worker; Virginia denies it and points to his past infidelities. A phone investigation finds no evidence either is cheating now.
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So when did your husband start accusing you of cheating?
You know, honestly, it's been forever. Forever? It's been going on forever, but it just keeps escalating and escalating.
And what is he accusing you of doing?
So, you know, there's a few instances. So, you know, the first one is he used to have this best friend. They were best friends. One day he decided to go on a motorcycle ride and I wanted to go too. He's like, do you wanna go? I said, yeah, absolutely. But we had our now 3-year-old. So, you know, I'm like, let me nurse her. You know, you guys get ready, stand outside, talk. Walked out the deck, grabbed my shoes, started walking up the side of the house. And I get to the front of the house where the porch was and he's like, I hear, Marco! 'Cause we do this cute thing when we're out places, we go, Marco, Polo!
Cute little couple thing.
Yeah, so I'm like, okay, I walk back up the side of the house towards the deck. He's not there. I'm like, okay, well, you know what, maybe I'm gonna go through the house. So I walk up on the deck, go to the back door, I hear him yell again. Now he's at the front of the house. So I'm like, okay. So I walk to the back of the door.
This sounds like a game of tag now.
Yes, it is. Let me show you this, right? So—
Did you bring a house photo?
I did bring a house photo. I did bring a house photo. Now keep in mind, we are in the middle of renovating. So anyway, so he says he stood on the trampoline and walked and looked up the side of the house on the trampoline, right? But I was standing out where the deck was, right? So I walk back, walk to the back of the house, right? Walk down the other side of the house and he comes, you know, I hear him yell Marco again. He meets me like halfway and where our cars are parked and he's like, what were you doing? I'm like, I was looking for you. He's like, my friend, he was on that side of the house too. He's like, what were you guys doing?
So what did he accuse you of that day?
He accused me of giving him a fuck next to the car. Next to the car. He even said, you have dirty knees.
I have not dirty knees. Hold on, hold on. So while he's screaming Marco and you're trying to find him with the polo, the cute game y'all do, he thinks you had time to give someone oral sex? His best friend?
His best friend, yeah. He thinks I talked to him. I don't have anything to do with him. And that's not the only thing, right?
What other evidence has he found?
So the next thing is, I work from home, right? I have our 3 kids at home. The older kids are at school, but it's just me and the 3 babies. And sometimes I work in the back of the house, sometimes I work in the front. He got home and we were all kind of in the back of the house. He comes over, he sits on his side of the bed and he's got a trash can here, right? And he's sitting there and he's like, "What's this on the floor?" I'm like, "What are you talking about? What's on the floor?" He's like, "Come here and tell me what's on the floor." And I'm like, "It's part of a condom wrapper." I'm like, "Uh-uh, that's not mine." I'm like, "That's not mine, I'm allergic to latex. You've gotta be kidding me." And he's like—
And he knows you're allergic to latex.
Yes, he knows I'm allergic to latex. He's like, "No, it has to be yours." And I'm like, "I have no idea where it came from. I'm trying to work and take care of our kids during the day. You're not serious." And he's like, "Well, it's not mine." But the problem is, is he likes to dumpster dive. He likes to pull things out of the trash. So come to find out, so come to find out, he had pulled a box out of the trash and I'm not 100% sure what it had in it, But he said that there was a condom in there. But he said there wasn't a condom wrapper, it was just a full condom and he threw it away in the trash can. Right, so since it was a part of a wrapper, it had to be mine.
Well, what will you do if you find out that there's something in his phone?
We'd be done. We'd be asking— You'd be done? Yeah, we'd be done. Like, I invest my—
So after 6 years, you being accused, all this stuff, if you find one thing, you're like, I'm finished.
Yeah, because I've invested my entire life with, like, he doesn't understand how much I love him.
All right, well, I think I'm ready to meet Carl to hear his side of the story. So everyone, please welcome Carl to the show.
You made me so mad.
First off, if you're gonna tell it, tell the truth. So tell the truth.
I am.
All right, so you got your shot, cool.
All right.
Well, I wanna hear your side. How do you feel about what she's saying and what's the lie that you feel? Or the other side of the story?
Well, you know, She had most of it right, you know, the whole condom wrapper thing, you know, and the whole friend thing, you know. She had part of that wrong, you know, because she missed me going through the house 3 or 4 more times.
Where was your best friend during this time?
He had to make a phone call is what he said he had to do. So I walked in the house to use the restroom and I come back out and he's gone and she ain't there neither. Well, I get on the trampoline and I step over far enough to where I could see down the side of the house She's not there.
But she said that she was nursing your 9-month-old baby. Those are what she told me. You really think giving oral sex? So what did your best friend say when you asked him?
Oh, he left.
So he just left?
Yeah, he just left. I think he, you know, what gave me the bad initiative is, you know, when—
You think he felt guilty and just dipped out real quick?
Yeah, but if you're sitting there talking on the phone, not doing anything at all, And someone comes up to you and be like, did my wife give you oral sex? Wouldn't you be upset too? Like, wouldn't you leave?
Are you serious? Are you gonna miss the part where I came outside and yelled for you guys and you just disappeared?
I wasn't disappeared, I walked up, we just missed each other. How many other times have we gone outside and missed each other?
So what other times do you think she cheated?
Uh-huh.
Oh yeah, you think about it.
You wanna go there?
Yeah, I wanna go there.
We can do that.
So what about that? Look at my go there. Yeah, yeah.
Let's get it out there then. Let's get it out there.
I swear to God, I love my audience. They are so messy sometimes. I'm like, go there. You guys are good. OK, OK. What did it do?
I work construction, so I was coming home from work one day. I'm walking in the front door, and I look over, and I see something move out of the corner of my eye. Well, there's this guy pushing a bicycle. Running out my yard. So I'm like, what the hell? What are you doing? I was like, hey, hey, no, come back here, man.
Come here.
You gotta tell the whole story.
Oh, I am telling the whole story.
No, you're not. Okay. You forgot to add that you had that junk pile out back and you hired this guy to get rid of it. And when he knocked on the door, which is on our security camera, he said, hey, I'm here to get the rest of it that I forgot. He's like, your husband said I could come over and get it.
Yeah, when he knocked at the door, he had a shirt on too.
I don't know anything about it. I literally was in the back with the kids playing.
But this is the guy that you knew was coming to do work that you agreed to.
This is a guy I've only talked to a handful of times. He did get the stuff out of my yard, that is true. However, why would he run like that? And what was the story behind the shirt missing?
I have no idea.
You know, like what's up? I'm not gonna take my shirt off to pick a dirty-ass door up, excuse me. Excuse me, but.
Well, I don't know. And you know what, in all honesty.
Well, I don't know, I would take my shirt off to clean, pick something up. Because if I'm like, if I'm scared I'm gonna get dirty, I might pick like, that don't seem that irrational to me. Y'all don't agree with me? They said they don't agree, all right. Well listen, I gotta ask you a question because I'm taking a lot of notes here and there's something specific that I'm tracking. I need to know, were you cheating on in the past?
Yeah, I was.
Okay.
I was. It was pretty horrible. I had met a lady, ended up being in a relationship with her. She had nowhere to go, so I let her come stay with me. Well, let's just say it ended up being the worst outcome and some, times 10.
What happened? What did she do?
I had to fight for my life from inside of a room. Jail, literally.
But I'm confused, what does she do in the house, this woman?
My family members.
She slept with your family members?
Oh yeah, while I was at work. And his friends and his, probably their brother. I really don't know how many of them, but I know a couple of them at least.
And so this woman you trusted is the reason you were in jail?
Yeah, absolutely. And she wanted to get away from me, so the way she thought she was gonna do it was get me in trouble so she could stay with my family at that house.
Oh, so yeah.
So the way that—
She's staying with your family in your family home. And then this makes sense now why you see your wife with your best friend and you feel like there's similar signs.
Yeah, a lot of 'em.
Absolutely. What will you do if you find something in her phone?
Oh, it's over with.
It's done?
I'm done with these games.
So there's a lot on the line here because it said, Both of you have said now, if something is found on the phone, you're ending this relationship.
You know, kind of honestly, I'd like to just be honest. You know, we got a lot of work in this relationship. And you know, to have some clarity is fine. You know, I wouldn't mind some clarity, you know, but I kind of just rather not even know, you know? 'Cause I love my kids.
Yeah, yeah, got it.
I just wanna clear my name. Like, that's all I wanna do is I wanna clear my name because I haven't done, I am not his ex.
What's making you emotional?
My kids.
You just love 'em and you want your family to be whole. Mm-hmm.
I get that, 'cause I love our family and all I've ever wanted was our family. I've only ever wanted our family and I've told you that from the beginning. Like, I'm not here to play games. I'm not her.
I think it's time to unlock the phone. Okay. Carl, we unlocked your phone. Okay. All right. Virginia, you wanna know if Carl has been texting with any other women, specifically one of his exes. Carl, you said you're not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his texts and found that Carl is telling the truth. Virginia, you wanna know if Carl has been calling any other women especially one of his exes. Carl says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched all of his calls and found that Carl is telling the truth.
I told you, I told you.
Virginia, you wanna know if Carl has been DMing any other women, especially an ex. Carl says he is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched all of his DMs and found that Carl is telling the truth.
See, I thought— no, no, no, we still got to listen to you. No, I want to hear you, so don't be trying to get hugging up on me. I told you the truth.
Yeah, I told you.
So now let's hear what they got to say too.
All right, I'm ready for this. I'm ready for this.
Well, Virginia, we unlocked your phone.
I know.
Yeah. All right, Carl, You want to know if Virginia has been texting with any other men, specifically one of your friends and also one of her exes. Virginia, you said you're not. My unlock the phone investigator searched through all of your texts, both the ones that you have in your phone and the ones you deleted.
Ooh, what's that about?
I don't delete anything.
And found that Virginia, you're telling the truth.
Oh my God. Big surprise. Big surprise.
Carl, you wanna know if Virginia has been calling any other men specifically with the area code 419. Virginia says she has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her calls and found that Virginia is telling the truth.
I told you, I told you, I told you, I told you.
All right, we have one more. We have one more. Carl, you wanna know if Virginia has been DMing any other men, especially an ex and one of your friends. Virginia says she is not. And my Unlock the Phone investigator searched her DMs and found that Virginia is telling the truth. I told you, I told you.
Can I have that right now? I love you, Karamo. I love you too. I told you. I told you.
Listen, your wife has proved that she is faithful and now it's time to prove that you trust her because you keep accusing her and if you keep accusing her, you're gonna keep losing her. And I think even more specifically, even more specifically, you're gonna lose your family. What's going on in your mind, Carl?
Just the, well, just like, like a big weight.
Yeah, I get it.
I was paranoid a lot. I'm still kind of paranoid, you know, but like, I just, now you know, like there's this fear that's unrelenting and just, I just don't think I have to worry so much now, you know? I feel like I can relax a little bit and, you know, maybe we could, I don't know, we can work on it together or something, you know?
As long as we're together, we can do anything.
A lot of people who have irrational fears or that paranoia need a safe place because they need that to be the place where they feel secure. This is your safe place. You know that maybe the rest of the world, you might have those fears and in time you'll start to heal from that. But right now you can go home and know that as I'm in my home, my wife, my kids are my security and they got my back. And if you can remind yourself of that, that will help the paranoia. It will help the irrational fears. And you'll start to trust again.
Okay.
Can you tell your wife, "I'll trust you"?
I'll trust you, I promise.
I trust you too.
I promise. Y'all will be all right, I know that. There's a lot of love here and those kids have good parents. And now that you've acknowledged that and you know that you can look at this place as security, y'all are gonna be able to move forward in the right direction. I wish y'all the best of luck.
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