In this episode of Karamo’s talk show, host Karamo mediates a heated confrontation between Sharika and her boyfriend Littrell after Sharika receives a 6 a.m. phone call from an unknown woman claiming Littrell is the father of her baby. Sharika recounts the call, the lack of prior contact from other women, and her two‑year relationship with Littrell, noting a ten‑year age gap (Sharika 36, Littrell 26) and concerns about his maturity. Littrell denies the allegations, claims the woman is from a past relationship, and asserts he has not been in contact with her for over a year. Karamo brings in a “phone‑unlock investigator” who reveals 19 calls to a woman named Karamo and 92 text messages with three women, contradicting Littrell’s denials. The evidence fuels accusations of cheating and possible pregnancy. The dialogue escalates with repeated accusations of lying, discussions of physical altercations, and emotional outbursts. Sharika declares the relationship over, demanding a DNA test to confirm paternity. Karamo offers advice about honesty, power dynamics, and personal growth before ending the segment.
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All right, so tell us about this 6:00 in the morning call.
Well, I'm asleep. Me and my man asleep, and his phone just keeps ringing. It's just constantly ringing. So I get up, he's still asleep, and I'm on the phone and I'm like, hello, somebody keep calling, what's up? Who you looking for? And she was like, I'm looking for Littrell. I said, well, he's asleep. So she goes on and she says, well, I need to speak with him because we have a "We have a baby." Oh! Yes. So.
Okay. Did you know that Lee Trell was having a baby?
No.
Okay. I just wanted to make sure. She might've known. I just need to be clear.
Nope.
Had any other women called Lee Trell's phone before?
No.
No. So that was the first time you ever had somebody call the phone?
That was the first time.
And not only did they call the phone, they talking about he's having a baby.
That he had a baby already.
That, oh, he already had a baby?
Yes, he already had the baby.
Oh, I missed that. I thought you were saying that she was like, "We about to have a baby." No, that he already had the baby.
What? Yes. Mm-hmm.
And what happened when you confronted Etrell?
He denied it. He constantly denied it.
Uh-huh. So we doing a DNA test today?
No.
You unlocking his phone?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
I got it. So who did he say the woman was?
He never said it. He kept denying it.
Okay then. So you don't have any information about that person who you spoke to at 6:00 AM in the morning?
Nope.
—To this day? —Nope. Okay, let me go back. How long were y'all together? 2 years. 2 years. How did you two meet?
I've been knowing Littrell for years. Long time. Yeah. So it was a friendship before? Yes.
Okay then. And what attracted you to Littrell at first? Littrell is a very sweet man. Did you have issues with cheating before? Nope. So this is new to his character? 'Cause you like— This is real new. Real new. Yes. And how long ago did this woman call?
Like a couple weeks ago now.
Oh, so this is recent, recent. Yes. Wow. I know there's a big age difference between you and Latrell. What's the age difference?
I'm 36.
He's 26. Okay, okay, okay. That's not as big. I thought you were about to say something really bigger. Okay, 10 years. Okay, I understand. Okay, but immaturity-wise, that's where that becomes an issue. Yes. Have you felt like it becomes an issue in that?
Now, yes.
Yeah, because he can't do the things you need? Yes. Got it. So you told my producers you regret getting involved with Latrell. Why?
Mainly because of that call and mainly because he likes to be in the hood.
Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay. So, and it's so funny because not one of us need another question. We was like, okay, we understood, we understood. Okay. What other concerns do you have with Littrell?
Other than being in the hood, I don't think he is ready for a person of my stature.
Got it, got it, got it. And so I'm assuming when you all got together, you believed that he was ready for that? Yes. Okay. And Littrell told my producers that you were the one cheating on him before that call. Is that true?
No, he's lying. He's lying. He's lying.
You would never cheat on him? No. So if the results come back that Littrell is cheating or has done something, what will you do? It's done, it's over. Okay then. Well, I think it's time to hear what Littrell has to say about all this. So everyone please welcome Littrell to the show.
Hey, Mr. Karamo. How you doing? Fine, how you doing, Mr. Karamo?
Nice to meet you. You ain't shit. What? How you doing? Fine. You have great skin. Thank you. You're welcome. So Latrell, who's the woman calling your phone at 6 in the morning? I don't know.
It was some girl I dealt with and like a year ago. I ain't— You're lying. I ain't heard from her in a minute. You feel what I'm saying? I was sleeping.
You're lying.
She slapped the shit out me. You're lying. She slapped the shit out me.
You're lying.
You can't understand why. If a girl call your phone at 6 o'clock in the morning—
So he's a cheater.
Yeah. I was asleep. She slapped the shit out me.
He's a cheater.
I woke up like, what is going on? He's a cheater.
She like, "Who is this girl calling from?" I'm like, "What is you talking about?" So why would this woman tell Sharika that you got a baby with her if she doesn't believe you two had a baby?
Man, I didn't deal with this girl in a long time.
So, but you're admitting that you did deal with this girl?
Yeah, I did deal with her.
So there was sexual relations at one point? Yes. Could that sexual relation have been 9 months ago? No. 10 months? No. 8? No. Okay, how long ago are you saying that y'all had a relationship?
I ain't seen this girl over like 2 years. Like a year and some change.
Okay, so what's interesting to me, if we're gonna do the math, thank you for being honest right there, is because you two have been together for 2 years. So if you're saying you haven't seen her in a year and a half, that means that during the time you two were together, her claims of you being a cheater are valid. No, we was on a break.
We was on a break. He lying. We was on a break. You know how you have a break and she was dealing with some man and I was dealing with some man. No, that's not true.
No, it's not. No, it's not.
She was dealing with some man and I was dealing with some man.
So you're saying that while you two were on this break, break that you did deal with other women?
Yes.
So then there is a possibility that this woman who called your phone could really be having your child? No. Why? I don't believe, no. You just don't, just 'cause you don't believe it don't mean it's not true.
'Cause if it was there, it would've been popped up. If it was there, it would've been popped up. Okay, okay then, okay.
So are you cheating on Sharika right now?
No. Okay. No. Why you, no. No, you're not? No, I'm not. Okay, okay, okay. Is she cheating?
We'll find out. Okay, okay. We will find out.
So Sharika, you don't believe Latrell? I don't. At all, why?
No, I just don't because why would this girl call, constantly ringing the phone at 6 in the morning while we sleep? I'm asleep. I'm asleep.
But she smacked the shit out of me. I didn't.
So let me ask you this. So if a woman called my phone and said that she was having a baby for me, first of all, we got bigger issues. But let's say hypothetically if that happened to me, let's say, And then my woman pick up the phone and I say it's not mine. Why would I not say, hey, let's go talk to this woman together so we can get this out and over with? Yeah, yeah.
I was trying, I was telling her.
Because from what she said, and I wanna hear your point of view, she said that you just avoided it and stopped talking about it and pretend like it's not there.
No, I told her, let's talk about this and that. But she like, no, this and that. She like, I don't want her to get the shit out. She smack the shit outta me.
I stopped breaking up her shit. He's lying. He's lying.
So from your perspective, what happened then? I stopped breaking up shit. So in response to her accusing you, you thought like, let me break her stuff up?
Yeah, she smacked the shit out of me when I was asleep at 6 in the morning.
Of course, what would you wanna do? You deserved it, you deserved to get smacked.
You deserved that.
Listen, listen, I've never condoned physical violence. I never condone somebody getting touched.
He deserved it.
I was gonna say this, 6 in the morning being called and told that the man that I'm in love with for 2 years, has a child with someone else, is going to elicit a response. I don't know if that was a proper response, but it was a response. It was proper. But me, after the slap, why are you just saying comfort and make her secure and let her know? Because he know it was true.
Okay, you're trying to talk to us. He knew that it was his baby, Karamo.
He knew that that was his baby. He know.
She says she wants to end the relationship and you wanna save it. Yeah. It's over. Why do you wanna save it?
Because she a good woman and I like older women. I don't like, young women. Why do you like older women? Because they mature and—
They can take care of you?
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, it's not that, you feel me?
You call that a Freudian slip. Nah, no. That means the truth just came out.
Nah, I like older women because I don't like young women 'cause they young, dumb as shit.
You know what I'm saying? Listen, I think it's time to unlock this phone, okay? Litrail, we unlocked your phone. All right, here we go. Sharika, you wanna know if Littrell has any explicit photos of other women in his phone. He says he does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his photos and found that Littrell is telling the truth.
See?
Okay. See, he's telling the truth. All right, Sharika, you wanna know if Littrell was still in contact with a specific woman from his past named Karamo? Yes. Okay then. He says he is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his calls and found that Littrell is not telling the truth. My investigator found 19 calls made to this specific woman named.
What? 19? 19. 19.
Wow.
19. We're done. We're done. Why? We're done. What were y'all talking about?
She just saying what I was doing. I was telling her I was in a relationship. I can't. Do that. I cannot talk to you like that.
By the way, all this stuff is that we found is in the last 2 weeks. It's, it's not. Wow. Wow. All right, so Sharika, you want to know if Littrell is texting any other women? He says he is not. My locked-up phone investigator searched his text and found that Littrell is not telling the truth. My investigator found 92 text messages between him and 3 separate women. 77 of those text messages than a woman named. And there's one specific, was she talking about she's pregnant? Oh! He said, "I better not be pregnant." She said, "Boo, I'm scared." That was October 29th, that was the other day. I just asked you if you've been doing anything, you said no.
Oh Lord, man. So you got her pregnant? No. Well, she said she's scared. She not pregnant, she not, she, woman say anything.
You got her pregnant?
I did not have her pregnant. And I don't see no stomach bump, no nothing.
Listen, listen, listen. No pudge, no nothing. We're done, you get on the plane by yourself 'cause I'm done. I'm done, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. Say you done? I'm done, it's over, I'm done.
That's the decision, that's the decision. It's nothing to say, it's nothing to say.
That's the decision. It's over, it's over, I'm done.
The best decision?
How is that your best decision, L?
L, how is that your best decision, L? We ain't see no proof yet.
Come close to him, brother. Come close, young brother, 'cause I'm about to end my show. She just made the best decision ever by walking out. But let's be clear, you know that you have used your smile and charm to manipulate women into thinking you're a lot more innocent than you actually are. Yes? Yes. Yes, I know. Oh yeah. That is not allowing you to grow to be the man that you ultimately could be. It's real cute right now because you feel like I'm in control. There's a power dynamic, right? Right? Yeah. It feels good. You feel like I got power. Yeah. Yes? Mm-hmm. Yeah? Yes. Yeah, I know. Have you felt powerless before in your life? Yes. Tell me about those moments you felt powerless.
When I was like by myself and when I had my leg amputated and stuff like that. When you got your leg amputated, okay.
Yes. Yeah.
So I felt like I was alone, by myself. Yeah. So I had it. Tell myself like, "Travis, like, you gonna have to deal with it and get through it with one man or without 'em." Yeah.
There's somebody who's gonna love you for you. But when you manipulate, when you use out of a fear that they're going to reject you or gonna make you powerless, you end up doing the reverse and you gonna actually end up alone and powerless. Yes. Yes, you right.
Just take a little advice.
Be honest and then confront this and then change your behavior, all right? Yeah. I wish you the best of luck, all right?
I'm done. It's really nothing else to say. He cheated, she may be pregnant. It's just over with at this point. I think it's best that we go our separate ways.
You had a baby, you were cheating. I don't know if it's mine or if it is mine.
