Are We Breaking Up Again? | KARAMO

So I gotta start off. Why did you call the show?

Because I have got back with my ex and I really want it to work, but also my family hates him. They do not like him.

Oh wow.

And so I just wanna try to see if I can make it a meal where we can all get along like we used to.

Got it. Okay then. And how did you meet Devonte?

Through Facebook.

Through Facebook. Okay. Was it love at first sight? What was it?

I had hit him up about a tattoo and he was like, We talked about the tattoo, but then the next thing he gonna say is, "Where your man at?" I said, "I'm single." And we weren't even friends on the book. It was just about a tattoo. And from the time forward, he came and did my tattoo, we was talking.

Oh, got it. Hold on, but you had said before, 'cause I can't skip over this, I wrote it down really quickly, that your family doesn't like him. Why?

So back on July 3rd.

Poor baby, what's going on?

Me and him wound up getting into it and it got physical and it went left. And at that point I was like, I can't do it no more. Like, 'cause my last relationship was like this. I was like, I couldn't do it. Like I had to go.

Got it.

And so at that point I was over it. So I called my mama the next day after I say it got physical. We said words to each other that we didn't mean. And then a phone call had came upon the next day towards another family member of mine. And one of his family members and him. And I guess what was said was that, "B-word, that's why your grandma dead." Devonte said that he was gonna put his handprint across my mama face when my mama was the one that helped us with everything. You get what I'm saying? Like, when we was down and low, like, we got a house together. Like, bro, I've been here for you. Like, I ain't never did this with nobody else I done been with. And for you to sit there instead of telling me, "Come get into it," tell me, "Oh, well, come get your shit." And I just feel like, I just had to leave for 4 months to figure out if this is something I was really wanting.

No, that makes complete sense. I mean, despite the phone call, if it gets physical and then he also is threatening to kick you out, I think you made a smart choice of taking time to figure out what you need and what you need in your life. So during that 4 months, was he trying to get back with you?

Ooh, Karamo, during them 4 months, it was crazy. But you know, it was just like, after I left, like I say, it started July 3rd. After I left and started staying with my mom from July 3rd to the 4th, like he would pull up to my family member house and run his engine and like knock on the door. He was wanting to fight me and my family members. Like he called my job, all types of stuff. Like—

So he thought by coming there and trying to fight is gonna get you back?

I guess so. And then like not even that, Karamo, like he was also like texting me from text now numbers, other numbers, like even my family members. There we go.

So these are all, my producer's telling me right now, these are all the different messages and nines and different calls that he was sending you. So when did you decide to get back with him and why?

About 2 weeks ago. And he hit me up on Instagram telling me how he done changed and how he really wanna be with me and he want this to work. But like I say, words can say anything. Show me, like, if this real, show me that this what you want. Because at the end of the day, I'm sacrificing a lot with this.

How did your family react when you got back with him?

I haven't told them.

You haven't told them?

This will be the first time they see this. And not even that, the simple fact I have a little girl that's 8 years old. So, you know, like, I can't keep going through this, especially with her on my side. So that's why I say, like, if you really wanna be with me, show me. 'Cause at the end of the day, When we go back home, I'm probably gonna lose a lot behind this. He's not a bad person. It's the way he grew up and the stuff that he been through, he need work on. He needs to be fixed.

I understand. Tell me about the middle of the night tattoos.

I don't knock nobody hustle.

Yes.

But it's a time limit to that, 'cause when you in the house with your woman, y'all got a household. No, you not finna go, we in bed and stuff, but you finna go at 2 in the morning, 2:30, something in the morning, 3 o'clock in the morning, talk about you finna go do a tattoo. No. No, you like, no, that it don't work. Like I understand you about your money, get your money. But no, outta the respect for me, 'cause you know I'm not finna get up outta no bed at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning, especially if I gotta go to work and then my daughter in there, she gotta go to school. It's not gonna work like that. So I'm just saying like if you're gonna really go do that, I don't mind that. But I prefer them to come to you where we're in the same household than you go to them. 'Cause I don't know, you don't never know what a female on.

Yeah, you're asking for a boundary.

Pretty much.

You're not trying to stop his hustle. You ask for a boundary.

Yes.

I understand. Well, listen, I know you want me to unlock his phone to see if he has been faithful since you all got back together. And that's the key thing. So listen everyone, let's see what Devonte has to say. Please welcome Devonte to the show. So I have to ask you point blank, have you been faithful to Keyonna since you got back together?

Man, like I told Karamo, at the end of the day, I'm a tattoo artist. And I told her, I've been and told her when I got back with her, I'm like, you know, girls have been shooting they shot at me. Girls have, you know what I'm saying, You know, see when they come over and get their tattoos, they see I'm here by myself, it's a big old house, you know what I'm saying? So they do see that. But on my end, I kept blankets up, I kept pictures up, so they'll know I'm still in a relationship. I felt like it was still a relationship.

Okay, but I never told him. I never told him you didn't tell me.

No, I'm not saying you did.

Is that a direct yes that you have not?

Yes.

And you've been faithful?

Yes.

Okay then. And were you faithful when you were together before?

Yes.

I'm confused, but why tattoo people in the middle of the night, 2:00 AM, 3:00 AM?

Okay, look, I'm gonna be honest with you, Karamo.

Okay.

I'm not saying that that's the right thing to do. I'm not saying that at all.

Yeah.

But you said you tattooed them. Hold on, hold on. I'm not saying that's the right thing to do at all. But at the end of the day, I did make a post on Facebook and say I'm 24 hours with tattoos. I'm gonna tell you why. Because when I was just doing it just during the day, people gotta work. People don't get off till 10, 12, you know what I'm saying? So—

Okay, but how do you think I feel when I go to work? Hold on, man, hold on.

I'm gonna let you speak. I'm gonna let you speak. I'm gonna let you speak. But I'm trying to, you know, help you understand that I done told you this a million times. So I'm trying to help you understand while I'm telling you.

But what have I denied? You didn't tell me that.

I never said you denied, but he asking me, so I'm telling him.

Well, this is good information because I wasn't aware that you had been advertising your business as 24 hours. Now that gives a whole different connotation to you going out at 2:00, 3:00 AM. Because I know many people, they get done with the club, they drunk, they turned up, whatever, and then it's like 2:00, 3:00, they want a tattoo. And if you're advertising, I'm always available, someone's gonna take advantage of that. And so you were aware that he was advertising that?

Uh, proposal? He said he made this status a long time ago before we got together, 'cause he just said it on the phone. Let him tell it.

She was aware.

I made that status a long time ago.

It's a pinned post on my page.

Devonte, your mother, Antoinette. Antoinette, how you doing? So I gotta go before I unlock these phones. How do you feel about everything that was just said?

You know I didn't raise you that way. To be hitting on no woman. Because I'm not gonna let no man hit on me, so I'm definitely not gonna let my boys do that to no woman.

At all.

That's not ever happening. So if you can't keep your hands to yourself, then you don't need to be with her.

This the first time you ever got physical with a woman?

Because think about it, she has a daughter.

Yeah.

And when y'all are arguing, fighting, putting hands on each other, she sees that. That's not good for her at all.

Your son just said, he just said that this is not his first time getting physical with a woman.

It's not.

Yeah. It's not? This is pattern behavior. Okay, okay. Well listen, I appreciate your point of view. I mean, everything you said I would be saying too, so I appreciate it. So.

Right?

I appreciate it.

Right?

But, so thank you for being here. But I think it's time for us to get clarity by unlocking these phones because that's gonna give us clear information that y'all been looking for. All right, so Kiana, we have your envelope. Devonta, you want to know specific things. "And so we unlocked Keyonna's phone. You wanted to first know if Keyonna was talking to any men since you've been back together. She says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and she is not telling the truth. He found that Google Duo had been used this week but deleted and IG had been used yesterday but also deleted." So these are the Duo, this shows us when they've been used and then they were deleted. And so the reason this is important, you gotta face, what is this about?

Google Duo.

Mm-hmm.

Google Duo I use for my. So y'all telling me I'm cheating with my.

What?

And then what y'all find on Instagram?

You've been deleted. So we're trying to figure out why have these things been deleted?

What did I delete? 'Cause I haven't even been on Instagram.

You telling me, I can only give you the screen grabs and the facts. If IG was yesterday, why delete it? And you know you was coming here the next day.

IG was yesterday.

It was deleted yesterday.

No, they must have did that. That's why I say IG was on my phone.

We would never do that.

I never delete anything off her phone. Just like some text messages on Messenger was on my phone from a dude that I ain't never texted a day in my life when I got my phone back.

You really think that I'd put message on someone's phone?

But y'all had, they said these messages were sent at 3:53.

You think that I would really?

I don't know, I'm not saying you would.

You think my producer would put message on the phone?

I don't know what y'all would do.

Okay, well what this does give me an insight to, in all sincerity, is a bit to the way maybe your conversations go. And also because what you've just done right there is you've exhibited You're trying to gaslight me. I'm telling me, and that's not a healthy behavior. Now we're gonna keep going from here. My unlock the phone investigator also searched your phone and found that you were not telling the truth because when the deleted Google Duo, we found, we can see that there was 1,177 messages and it was not just to one person, it was to multiple people. So who's that?

TikTok, 1940, recent 369, native 132. This don't even look like real ass numbers.

Okay, so my unlock the phone investigator also searched texts and found 3 text messages from men trying to talk to her, but she did not respond.

Thank you.

So it's funny that you're not gonna dispute that one?

No, because Google Duo. But on Google Duo, I got a whole Google Duo on.

What do you have to say about any of that?

Once we leave here, that ain't gonna matter to me.

Okay.

It's not.

All right, well now let's unlock your phone, Devonte. Kiana wants to know if he's been faithful since the beginning. He says he has been. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his DMs and he's telling the truth. Kiana, you also wanna know if he's been faithful since being back together. He says he has been. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched all of his apps and again, he's telling the truth. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched his text messages text and we found one interesting text. It was sent a week before you all got back together and they're telling me this is something that I need to read because it's gonna show me a little bit about your character, okay? Here's how things are with me, beautiful. I'm not some trick. I just want different when I come to town from time to time and I know there's beautiful B-words like you that are scumbags that'll do anything for money. So why not pay a low budget beautiful B-word like yourself?

I'm cool. That's a wrap with me, baby. You a fool.

You a fool. That was our 9/22.

That is not my message.

You a fool, a low budget bitch.

Man, I'm gonna show you. I ain't got a lot of you.

A low budget bitch.

Hold on, can I tell you something? Can I tell you something?

Man, that ain't even my message.

Can I tell you something? Can I tell you this?

That is not my message.

This is what's in the text.

That's on the text now. And that's from somebody else using my phone. And I'm gonna show you. And then you can make your decision. If you don't wanna fuck with me, you ain't got to.

At the end of the day, I don't think either of y'all should be fucking each other because let's be real, because this is both of your behavior and the way you've exhibited the anger. It's been 3 weeks y'all been back together and this how y'all act? You trigger him, he triggers you and y'all both get angry. But out of your own mouth, I took it out of my, you said, "I do not wanna be like this because my daughter's watching.

I got bigger problems." And I don't, 'cause my daughter love him and that's a simple fact.

Hold on, if you don't wanna be like this, then why am I a pillow right there?

'Cause Karamo made me mad and I do apologize.

I get it. No, no, no, I get it. You don't have to apologize to me. The person you need to apologize is to him. You need to apologize to her and then y'all need to apologize for yourself for even being in this situation. I'm okay with you hitting my pillow because this hurts me. I can stay calm. I'm not in your relationship. But what I don't wanna see is two young, beautiful African Americans in a situation where you all are just triggering each other and not healing. You are a young woman. There is no need for a 23-year-old young woman to be doing this. There's no need. Thank you for doing it, I appreciate you. There's no need for a 23-year-old woman to be doing this. And I understand, listen, you are a grown man. There is some anger issues. You two are not healthy. This is literally heartbreaking for me. Y'all don't need to be together. And the fact that there's a little 8-year-old girl that you about to be in front of. The fact that you over here, you trying to run a business, you trying to do something for yourself and this is your behavior. What about this behavior gets you locked up? All that 24 hours, all these things with your business. Is done anyway and there goes your life. It takes one time for one, if she would've called the police to have domestic violence and you could end up in jail for anywhere from a year to 10 years. You are aware of that, right? Most definitely. Now all of this is gone, the whole thing. He can slap you one day and you could actually fall, hit, bump your head. Now you in a coma, something wrong could be and now your daughter has no mother.

That's true.

There are so many things that we don't think about.

And that's why, that's why I left for the 4 months 'cause I was like, I was like, at the day I wasn't gonna keep doing it and you gonna keep doing me like that.

[Speaker:KARAMO] Right, and lemme tell you what I would encourage you to do is I would encourage you to continue to stay gone and to do some healing on yourself, to figure yourself out. You don't need to rush back into a relationship. And I encourage you to figure out what's going on with these anger issues. And then also just to continue to be a man that's trying to build your business and figure yourself out. This is not healthy for y'all. And I promise you, I see the dark road y'all about to go down and this is gonna get worse. Half a second was any indication of what could happen in day 2, in day 5, in week 5, then I'm telling y'all, please run for the hills, both of y'all, and go heal separately. I wish y'all the best of luck. I really do. I really do. Because I don't wanna see this for y'all future. All right? Good luck to y'all. Do you love the Karamo Show? Yes. Well, we're back for season 2, so make sure to subscribe to the Karamo Show.