Are You Cheating On Me With My Own Family Member? | KARAMO

Karamo mediates between Javaris and Jorico, who share a phone and a volatile relationship. An investigator finds 4,049 Grindr and Jack'd interactions on their device, connections to 14 hotel Wi-Fi networks, and evidence the apps were hidden. Javaris says there have been seven instances of violence and accuses Jorico of messaging his own family member.
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Javaris caught his boyfriend on a dating app talking to someone in his own family. Let's meet Javaris to hear what's going on. Javaris, come on out.
Hi, Javaris.
How are you doing?
Good, how are you?
Nice to meet you, Javaris. Thank you. So take a seat for me. So how did you find out that he was speaking with your family member?
It all started out Super Bowl night. You know, I'm a big Eagles fan, so you know, I'm all into the game. Hello.
Okay.
Come to find out, Super Bowl night, we at a relative's house, and he was on his phone. He kept going on his phone, picking up his phone, and picking it up and picking it up and picking it up. So as he picked it up and picked it up, I wanted to join, join, join. So as I joined, it was the big G, Grindr, and it was 0.03 away. Problem, it was a relative.
What?
So that mean he talking to somebody in the house.
In the house. Real close.
So first I gotta make sure. So when you saw that he was on Grindr, did that upset you?
Did it upset me?
Okay, okay, because you know some people—
Did it upset me?
Okay, you talking about it upset you.
Not anywhere in the world.
Uh-huh.
0.0 foot away.
Mm-mm, no, okay. Have you ever caught him on the app before?
I have.
Okay, and what happened?
It wasn't close by.
Okay, okay.
So when I called him, we talked about it. Come to find out we'd been on there together, but this was 0.0 foot away. And I have a problem with that.
Okay, did you confront him about it at that moment? I did. And what'd he say?
Once I confronted him about it, we left, got on the road to celebrate Valentine's. I went to Charleston, I had the room decorated really nice. Every spoon got tossed, no glass was filled, and no plates were empty.
Okay.
Okay, so that means it was on the whole time. It was done.
You was done. No peace. No peace.
Yes.
And what was his response?
His wrong was I was crazy. I'm overthinking.
But you saw him talking to somebody on Grindr that's a member of your family.
Yes.
Why would he think you crazy? Like, I don't understand.
He was crazy.
Okay.
It was time to fat the frog and feed the snake. Okay, from that point.
I know you Southern. Ooh, yes, son.
So from that point, I felt some type of way. I was hurt.
Of course. So did things always escalate during the confrontation?
Yes.
It did?
Yes.
Does it get physical between you two?
Sometimes it does.
Okay. Does he do this often?
Whenever he's confronted.
Okay. So when you find him, catch him, you confront him and then he basically gaslights you and says you're acting crazy and then you get upset?
I get upset.
Okay then. Have you invited others into your relationship before? You said in the past.
Yes, in the past.
Okay. How long y'all been together?
It'll be 2 years on January 11th.
2 years, okay then. And then at what point in the relationship did you start inviting people in?
After he started cheating.
Okay, so he cheated and then you thought the solution would be to invite people in?
Yes.
And how long into the relationship did he cheat?
Probably like 5 months. 5 months. Well, actually 30 days 'cause they were planning on cheating 'cause we met 30 days after the Super Bowl.
Oh, so this is 30 days in with the relative that he cheated?
Yes. And it kept going on and on and on and I'm tired of it. And all I see is hidden apps.
Phone lock.
Hidden browsers.
Do you have an open relationship today?
I do not.
You do not. Just wanna be clear. And when was the last time he talked to this family member?
Probably yesterday.
'Cause you don't know?
I don't know.
Got it.
The unknown.
The unknown. And you two share a phone, my producers told me.
We do.
Okay, then why do you share a phone?
Because he was trying to prove the point that he wasn't cheating. But you can get on the internet and cheat. You can get on the computer and cheat.
Okay. Are there times when he has the phone alone?
Yes.
Okay then.
Yep.
No, say what you were about to say.
Usually when I'm asleep, that's a good time for him to bag it up and answer questions and send out messages.
And then you feel like he then hides apps and does this?
Yes.
Got it. Do you live together?
We do.
You do live together. Okay then. Well, I think it's time to meet Jorico. That's his name, right?
That's right.
Okay, let's meet Jorico and hear his side of the story, everybody.
Hey, Jorico.
Hey, Karamo.
How you doing? I'm good. I'm not gonna judge you.
What?
But I'm gonna find out some truth.
Please do.
Do you have a relationship with his family member?
No, I do not.
You do not?
No, not at all.
Did you?
No, I didn't have a relationship with his family member at all. Ooh, shady.
Honey.
Oh, they're being shady, okay.
Yes, but listen.
People think I'm messy, they ain't met my audience yet.
And I'm here to prove to him and show him that I'm here for him and I wanna be with him. I made a mistake getting on the app, came across the wrong person. I own that.
Okay.
But I'm no longer doing that anymore.
Got it. But so you're no longer on the apps?
No.
Okay.
Well, we have been on the apps together. We have been on the apps together.
Got it, together.
Right? But other than that, I'm not on an app at all.
Okay, you saying you're not on it. Okay then. That's it.
What is it?
That's it. You're not on an app.
That particular app. I'm not on any app. Okay.
Text me now, text me boo, text me later, Scooby-Doo. None of those.
Scooby-Doo.
None of those.
No, none of those.
None of those.
I'm not on anything.
Out of 4 phones, none of those.
Out of 4, yeah, and a broken TV, right?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah. Why? But first of all, no, my energy, not, what's wrong with my energy?
Yeah, when I ask you about it, you get very upset.
No, I do not.
Yes, you do.
I get upset with the fact that just like you—
Oh, so you broke 4 phones?
Correction, I broke my phone first because I'm trying to have a conversation and I can't get a word in.
Got it.
So to get your attention so you can hear me and see me, I broke my phone. Now, and then—
I told you they judgmental. They talking about that was stupid.
That's okay.
Okay.
I ain't worried about them. I'm here for him. And so, Then later on—
Then I'm here to unlock the phone.
Okay. I want the phone unlocked. Okay, so what about the other 3 phones? What happened to them?
Well, the second one, he broke my TV, so I broke his phone.
How often do things get physical?
How often do things get physical?
Why would I break— How often do they get physical?
It sounds like a lot. I'm tracking.
Ofta, sometimes oftas.
7 times, 7 times, 7 times, 7 times, 7 times.
7 times 7.
What's the answer to it? 7 times 7. Too much.
So what made you go on Grindr at the Super Bowl party? You were supposed to be at a party with your boyfriend. What happened?
Well, I was on Grindr. I got on Grindr.
He said he wanted to feel something.
I was feeling myself. I was at a party. I was feeling good. I made a mistake. I was bored. Stupid. I own that.
Once you realized it was his family member, did you stop the communication?
I never knew it was his family member. The person, he sit here and he'll tell you that that person was right here next to me. The person I got on Grindr and talked to was a person that was 5, 10 miles away in the same city. It wasn't no one right there in the house.
Oh no, we in Charleston. That's when you started seeing the 5 and the 10 and the 20 and the 30. In the 40s, in the hundreds, miles away?
No.
Yes.
No.
Clear as day.
You might have been 0.0 feet away from me because we were in the same car. Because you were on there too, right?
Obviously, right?
But you were on there too, if you know, if I was talking, if I was 0.0 feet away.
He said he saw you, he didn't say he was on it. He said he was looking at you with the phone.
But I'm the one driving.
I'm talking about when we was at the party.
At the party.
At the party.
Do you believe the accusations will stop after we unlock your phone?
I hope they do.
Mm-hmm.
I want my relationship. I want to get past this. I want him to know that I am honest with him. I'm in love with him. I wanna be with him. I want to heal so we can grow and thrive together. Okay. 'Cause I made a mistake. I'm not—
What about starting over and we decide whether we should pursue a relationship or not? Clear?
Yeah. Okay. Well, you said it a couple times. You wanna say it again? 'Cause it's time.
Maybe start over. Unlock the phone.
There we go.
All right, so here we go. Jorico, we unlocked your phone.
You didn't say my phone.
Javaris.
My phone.
The phone you all share. That he thinks you've been doing things on. Javaris wants to know if Joe Rico has any inappropriate photos in his phone. He says he does not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his photos and found that Joe Rico is telling the truth. Javaris, you wanna know if Joe Rico is texting with any other men. He says he is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his texts and found that Joe Rico He's telling the truth. You in disbelief right now. Why are you in disbelief? Javaris, you wanna know if Jorico has synced up his phone to any suspicious devices' Wi-Fi connections. He says he has not. My locked phone investigator searched his phone and found that Jorico is not telling the truth. My locked phone investigator found the phone has been connected to 14 different Wi-Fi networks, many of them at hotels.
'Cause that's where we have been. I can explain that. Have we not been staying in hotels?
But you block all the hotels.
No, no, no, no. Have we not been staying in hotels? We have, you know, vacation, we travel. Exactly. And you connect the phones to the Wi-Fi. And you disconnect the phone, I can't connect. No, I don't, Javaris.
Yes, you do.
When it gets to a point where it lags.
Cross-device my phone.
No.
Javaris, you wanna know if Joe Rico is speaking to any other men on any dating apps? He says he's not. You just said earlier that you don't have any apps anymore, right?
Right.
Okay, well, my unlock the phone investigator searched his apps and found that Joe Rico is not telling the truth. My unlock the phone investigator found 4,049 interactions on both Grindr and Jack'd.
Me?
Me?
He also noticed that these sessions were marked—
I'm dead.
You're a lie.
We also noticed these sessions were marked as sent to background, meaning the apps were minimized switched away from while they're in use. So send to background on apps means that it's not gonna pop up. So did you do that or did he do that? Who did it? We can only show what we find. Y'all are sharing a phone and we see that an app has been pushed to the back, which means it's hidden.
It's his phone.
Hides the apps automatically.
He is on the apps. He created profiles from an email that we share He is always on the app, not me. I don't even pick up the phone to touch it. I don't wanna be on it. And I tell him I don't wanna be on the app 'cause I want my relationship. And he tells me that, oh, somebody else was on it.
So you're saying that he pushed the, he hid the apps?
It's his phone.
I don't know how to hide no apps.
At one point you—
I'm a straight shooter. If I did it, I did it. And I did it good.
So you didn't hide any apps?
No.
How do I, what apps? So what apps are hidden?
Are you the one on the apps? 'Cause he's saying it's you.
So what apps are hidden on the phone?
The two apps that are hidden on the phone are Grindr and Jack'd.
Apps that he wanted on his phone, that he downloaded to his phone.
No, you can.
I didn't down, I did not download apps to my phone.
And some of them are not hidden. So you can check this out.
So the last time it was sent to the back, the start time is on October 17th, 2025. That's the last time you went on Jack'd on the Android. At 7:43 PM.
We were on there together.
Huh?
We were on there together.
When?
So we didn't—
We have not been.
You are a liar.
Because you said you was wanting to fix your relationship.
No, I did, and guess what?
You failed.
No, I didn't fail. Okay. You wanted to download the app. You told me to download it, and now you're pointing back on me. You wanted to download the app, Tavaris. You told me to download the app. You told me to create the profile because you wanted to have a threesome. But now it's me You have secrets. I have secrets? How do I have a secret from you when I'm using your phone and I barely touch it?
Why? Why you barely touch it?
Because I don't wanna be accused of something I know.
You do.
I don't touch the phone at night.
You touch that phone.
No, I don't.
'Cause I snore like a bear, remember?
Well, you said that, not me.
And I'm proud of it.
Since you two share a phone, is there anything you'd like to share with the other person? Is there anything you wanna share, you wanna share?
I've shared everything. Everything with him. I've been completely honest with him. I've done everything I could to think of to do to save my relationship.
[Speaker] Okay. You want my personal advice?
[Speaker] Sure.
[Speaker] My personal opinion on this? I don't think there's a relationship to be saved, and let me tell you why. It is beyond jacked, it's beyond grinder. What it is is that you two have never had a foundation of communication or respect.
[Speaker] Right.
[Speaker] And so what happens is that every time one of you are re-triggered, You both do erratic things that could put you both in danger at some point. And what I know to be true is that sooner or later, one of y'all could end up in jail. It's not worth it. Both of you can find somebody who's gonna love you and give you what you deserve. You shouldn't have to have one phone. Y'all shouldn't have to not trust the other person.
Well, I'm single now. I got some brothers, 'cause I'm everywhere around it.
All I wanted was be with him.
I know you wanna be with him, but do you wanna—
All I was love him and nobody else.
I know you love him, but do you—
I'm not gonna give myself to no one else but him.
But it's unhealthy.
Yo, you better stop this.
Jericho, can you admit this is unhealthy? You know it's unhealthy. Can you admit you deserve more?
You know, after being in this relationship, I don't know.
Yeah.
'Cause it's all I have.
I don't have nobody else.
There is a strength in you that you'll be able to fight for yourself. The foundation of what y'all both wanted was broken 30 days in.
Yes.
And y'all been spending 2 years trying to get it back.
That's true. It's true.
But I think it's time to let go.
I thought it could be fixed myself and I tried to stay in the race as long as I could. But I lost everything from friends to family members and I want my life back. Yeah. I want my family back. I want my family back.
You talk to your mom every day. You talk to your brother.
So even what I'm seeing right now, even what I'm seeing right now lets me know that y'all should be together because for him, he's saying that he's lost them. It might not be what you think he lost. Just because you're physically talking doesn't mean you have the same relationship. So if he's saying, "I want them back," it means that there's something that he received before that he's not getting right now. So what y'all have to do is y'all have to understand that you both have to go live your lives separately. Really do. I wish this could have been a happy ending. I really do. But unfortunately, I think it's best that you all just move on and maybe down the line you can be friends.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I do wish you both the best of luck. Thank you for being here with me, all right?
I wish you the best of luck.
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