Are You Denying Our 3 Kids So You Can Cheat? | KARAMO

Steven started denying our 3 children about 2 and a half years ago. I've only ever had sex with one other person other than Steven in the last 9 years, and this was not around the time any of my children were conceived. I've told him repeatedly that all 3 children are his children. He only believes partially that one of them is his. I feel like the whole denying his kids is really only so he can go out and cheat. When I first found out that he cheated, my son was 5 months and I seen a video of him doing it. That completely broke me. I'm sick of his lies and accusations. My children deserve a lot better than a father that denies them.

She saw you on video having sex with another woman? Yeah. She did?

Yeah, she did. But we wasn't in no relationship.

Okay.

We were just friends.

You were just friends at this time?

Mm-hmm.

Okay then. So how did you find out that she was cheating?

I found out Martina was cheating was one day I was just playing my video game and I just needed some cheat codes for my game. And you know, I don't usually touch her computers and that's her personal belongings. So I needed it for that moment. So I happened to go in it and I see Instagram. So I see a message that was just so disturbing that I questioned it. Like, why would she be talking to Martina like this? She don't fit this aura. So what is a? I never heard nothing like that.

I'm confused. What was the message saying?

That she was messing with her husband or whatever.

And she was calling her that as an insult?

As an insult, yes.

Wow.

When I found out, when I talked to her or whatever, the guy's wife, she showed me all the messages that they was having on Instagram, social media, and stuff like that.

And what'd the messages say?

You know, I love yous and meeting up. For years.

For years?

Not months, for years before I even knew her.

And so how did you react?

I was furious. I was upset knowing that my son was around another man that I have no knowledge of, man, why should my son be around another man that's not his father? So is it his father? Is it his father or what? I don't—

Got it. Did you confront her?

Yes, I confronted her.

And what did she say?

She didn't tell me anything. With the messages in her face. She's just so, she don't wanna take accountability even when it's in her face.

So this is the most player thing I ever heard. So did you really go have sex with this man's wife?

Yeah.

By the way, when I say player, I meant toxic. You went and had sex? Instead of just saying, let me leave this alone, you said, I'm gonna get you back with the wife?

I'm gonna tell you why. The only reason why is because she was—

Bitch, show me why.

All right, look, look, look, look. She was friends with the guy and his wife.

Okay.

They was talking like on some like together stuff.

Got it.

And so when she found out, she was furious that we was always together, talking over the phone together, chilling out together the whole time she's fucking my husband.

Got it.

So, I felt like let's just make it even.

Make it even. What did Martina say when she found out you were having sex? She didn't say anything?

She can't say nothing.

Got it. So have you cheated on her in the past? I know we heard her say you caught this video, but you said that's the beginning of the relationship when y'all weren't together. So since y'all been together, have you cheated on her?

Since we've been together? Not really. I have friends. I have friends.

Not really. So you had emotional connections?

Yeah, I have people to talk to, 'cause I can't talk to her.

Got it.

'Cause I don't have no sisters to get girl advice from. Advice from. Yeah, exactly.

Will you stay with her if they aren't your children?

I'm not sure.

Yeah, yeah. Makes sense.

It's questionable.

All right, so if you think she is cheating, why have you stayed with her this entire time? I understand the revenge sex. I mean, I wouldn't encourage it, but I understand it. So why did you stay with her after that? Why not say, nah, we're done? Especially after having the doubts of saying these kids might not be mine.

Well, I just felt like I've been there for the kids, so I'm just, you know, make sure they good.

Got it. Well, listen everyone, before we meet Martina, she had an emotional revelation with producers before the show. Take a look at this.

We both experienced infertility. We didn't know until we started trying. I was about 20 years old when I found out. So it's very young to find out, okay, you're having fertility things when you're not really even thinking about having children. We actually had decided to go to a doctor, a fertility doctor. We had to save up our money and we're going to do it during Christmas month. So for us to have fertility issues and then you're doubting our children, that really makes me upset.

Why do you believe that he's denying to be the father of your children?

He's denying it now because he knows I cheated on him. But my cheating was in retaliation to what he's done.

Got it.

He's cheated on me since the beginning. When I first was dealing with him, I started seeing text messages on his phone, you know, second text apps, tagged, text now. What are you on that for if you in a relationship? If you living with somebody, what you on that for?

So when did you decide to start cheating? 'Cause you're saying that he just, So you said y'all been together for 9 years. You said he's been cheating from the beginning consistently through. When did you start cheating?

When he went to prison and after he cheated. When I first found out that he really physically cheated, it was 2017, I would say, because it was after our son.

So 3 years after y'all were together?

Yeah.

Okay. And then that's when he went away and you were like, you cheated and you're away, I'm gonna start cheating. Or you're gonna find a connection. It wasn't for you. It wasn't for you intentionally, I'm gonna cheat because you're not together. Did you have an agreement when you went to jail that she was gonna stay faithful to you?

No, I was dealing with someone.

Okay, so you were—

When you went to jail in 2017, you was dealing with someone?

'17, or before I bailed out.

You're a liar.

Before I bailed out, you was dealing with someone.

Before he went to jail, I seen him on video having sex with someone. I did not find out till 4 months later and he gave me an STD. My son was 5 months. So you really wanna sit here and lie? You gave me an STD, not nobody else. Nobody in my life ever gave me no nasty shit like that. And that was only the first time. You did it again. He told me I deserved to get that STD. That's what he told me.

Is that true?

Mm-mm. She's lying.

You really wanna sit here and lie?

See, with a person like her, she like to be delusional. That's what she does. When things don't go her way, she's delusional.

That's how he is. When things don't go his way, this is what he does.

It sounds like you two have been in a tit for tat relationship.

Yeah.

It is, it is.

So then why are you two staying together? Why are y'all still talking? Is it just because of the kids?

It's not because of the kids, 'cause you act like you don't even care about them half the time.

Yeah, all right.

You do. I do care about them.

You're a liar, Steve.

That's impossible.

There's times you walk right past them.

Yeah, all right.

Okay, when he was cheating previously, we have our 6-year-old child is autistic. My child, he's nonverbal. He used to stand in front of the door and try to block him from leaving. 'Cause he kept leaving. That's something that's always gonna be in my head. When you walking out on your son.

Is that true?

I was always in and out, back.

Okay. How often does he deny your children?

Whenever he's mad. And when he found out about the other guy that he was talking about, he found that out at the same time that I told him about the person that I had sex with him.

I told him after the fact when I found out.

And it's not some 8-year affair. It's a childhood friend that I knew from when I was younger. I don't even know him. I don't even have the man's number. He reached out to me on social media and because I was in a bad spot with him, I did talk to that person.

Why didn't you have my son with him and stay with him? Why you have more kids with me? Why you ain't just stay with him?

Why did I have more kids with you?

Why?

So you're acting as if I haven't made up— Have you been with a guy already? We've been together for 9 years. I was pregnant 6 times. We only have 3 children. So you could put in your head, put 2 and 2 together what you think that means. So he could say, why did I have more kids and I chose not to have other kids? I was pregnant 6 times by you in 9 years. And you wanna say that, oh, you don't know if it's your kid or not? When I don't leave a house and my child is 12 weeks old and then I'm 6 weeks pregnant and I've never left my child, who else kid is it? A ghost?

I don't know what to.

So I think it's time for us to get to the DNA truth and find out if these 3 children are yours. Are you ready for that?

I'm ready.

We have 3 DNA envelopes and each one of these is the DNA truth to share if these children are yours. Your first child is Mason, right?

Yes.

Yes, so are you ready to find out if Mason is your child? I'm ready. The DNA truth is yours to open, let us know.

And when you get your result, what's gonna change?

Steven, you are the biological father of Mason.

Okay. She asked you, now that you know that, how do you feel and what's gonna change?

A lot of things could change between us.

He told me that my son looked like his friend's son.

Yeah.

It's just questionable how things played out between us. Like, red flags between both of us. I seen it from the very beginning between both of us. She had a boyfriend when I first met her. I had girlfriends when I first met her.

And you stayed at my house every day and you never left from the day I first met you. And you asked me out for every day for a week and I told you, I have a boyfriend. I need to end my situation before I do anything with you, before I go forward with you. But you still stayed at my house every day. So why you keep talking about if I had a boyfriend? You never left.

On to the next question.

You never left.

So your second child's name is Summer. You've been questioning if Summer is yours. Do you feel confident now that you've heard this?

Mm-hmm.

Sketchbook's open.

Okay, Steven, you are the biological father of Summer. Now this is where it's at right here.

Your third child, Selah. This is the last child that you've been questioning. If it could be yours. Are you ready to find out the DNA truth?

Yes. It's the one. Steven, you are the biological father of Salem.

So what are you about to say? Like, you think that you could take back how you treated me for the last 6, 7 years saying all this shit when they really are your kids? So you think that I would have kids by somebody else, keep these kids away from their father to keep 'em around you because you're doing what's right? That's what you think about me. I don't wanna be with somebody who think that kind of way about me when I've done nothing but help you all the time.

No, you do, Martina. I'm sorry, I mean, for thinking that way. I mean—

I have to tell you, you now have 3 undeniable reasons to treat this woman with the utmost respect.

Yeah.

I'm glad you apologized to her, but there's now a lot of work that needs to be done. I mean, just to hear the chaos in your relationship, I'm glad for you, you're saying that you don't wanna be in this and that you're ready to move on. I think it's the most healthiest thing. I'm looking at the age and I see that you are 29 now, so which means you were 20, 19 when you got together.

I was 20. Mm-hmm.

So this relationship has been dysfunctional from the beginning and now you've been in a pattern like this for 9 years. The unfortunate part is that there's been children involved now and that tit for tat relationship will damage I want you to go back to you when you were younger because I hear that it was bad. I know that there was things. Would you want your children to experience any of the things you went through?

No, no.

Would you want them to ever grow up in a house where they felt unsafe or unsecure because of the way that you two are interacting? Mm-hmm. Because of the way you're treating their mother?

Mm-hmm.

I would just tell you, brother, that if that's your desire to have your children be in a safe and secure house, that starts with you. Starts with you two. That starts with the way you're treating her, the way that you're interacting with her. And I get it, you built a relationship on this tit for tat. I'm gonna do you, you're gonna do this. We're gonna cheat on each other. I'm gonna do this, whatever the case may be. I'm not gonna talk about who's right or wrong because I don't know all those details. You've both been bad in those situations. But what I do know is that the abuse for each other, the calling her outta her name, those things will affect your daughters deeply.

Absolutely.

And I say this all the time on this show. What you gonna do in 12 years when I'm on this stage if your daughters call my show and say, "My boyfriend's calling me out my name, accusing me, doing this to me." What you gonna do?

Address it. But I gotta just, I just know I won't know myself.

Well, you address it now. I'm gonna tell you two things. I appreciate your strength and I appreciate where you are as a woman. I can see that now at 29, you're growing into a phase of your life where you're starting to understand what you deserve and starting to make the moves to make sure that you're not in unhealthy situations. I recognize your growth and I recognize where you're at. I know you've gotten to this place because of a lot of pain, but I'm glad you're here now and I appreciate what you're doing for your kids. I really do. I'm gonna tell you this. I actually have deep empathy in my heart for you because there is a past and situation that have happened to you that you have never fully focused on, dealt with, that is bleeding into this relationship.

And he denies it and I try to tell him that.

And I'm watching it and I wish that this was a different show where we weren't confirming paternity, that we could take some time with you to really help you identify where that is and start that journey to healing because that is going to help you to be the best father possible. She's on her growth path. She's ready to go. She's gone, she's on her way out, but there's growth that needs to happen and there's one day that these kids are going to need you. If I offer you therapy, do you want that?

Yeah.

You want it as well?

I'll take therapy.

I'll give you, seriously, because at the end of the day, the more that you two can co-parent and be your best selves, it's only gonna set these kids up for the future. The best future. And all of us have had situations that have happened to us as adults. I've talked about openly about my parents, the things that I've went through. And the thing that I've always made sure that I think we all can agree on is that we don't want this next generation to have to deal with what we went through. So if we can figure it out so they don't have to go through it is all my goal is, you know what I mean? And so I appreciate y'all sharing that story. I'm glad you got your vindication. I'm glad you got your answers. I'm glad that you ready to move on and not be in this. And I'm glad you're willing to accept some help.

You need to keep them.

Yeah, you got your answers now. Don't accuse her no more. I wish y'all the best of luck, sincerely. And that offer stands and it's real. All right, everyone, stay with us. We'll be right back with more.