Are You "Playing House" with Other Women? | KARAMO

It's been hectic the last few weeks, Karamo. I pulled up to her annoying-ass best friend's house because I went through my girlfriend's phone, found out her annoying-ass best friend is trying to hook her up with this recurring girl.

Got it.

We're gonna call her that, okay?

Okay, the recurring girl.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I pulled up to her house. I was calling her, texting her, FaceTiming her, the whole nine, trying to get her to come outside because Again, she's trying to hook her up with the recurring girl. And at this point I felt like she's trying to sabotage my relationship. And it's like a respect thing. There's no respect. She sat in my face before. She sat in my house before. You know, like she's talked to, I have a kid, she's talked to my kid. So at this point I felt disrespected and my intentions was to go and beat her ass. That was my intention. But she never came outside, so I ended up—

She knew better, you think?

Yeah, she knew better. The type of time I was on, she knew not to come outside. But I went back I went back to the house that day. I had my girlfriend's phone the whole time. I went back to the house, still had her phone. She wanted her phone back and I was telling her, "No, you're not about to get this phone back." And so we end up getting into a physical fight.

You and your girlfriend?

Yeah, I whooped her ass. She ended up going to the hospital. She did, she went to the hospital. She did. And she went to the hospital and so that—

And how long y'all been together?

3 years.

3 years. And how long ago did this stuff happen?

2 weeks ago.

2 weeks ago. So this is all fresh.

It is.

And what was it that made you feel most betrayed?

It's like, you know, her coming to my house, talking to my kid. You know, you act like you're cool in my face, but behind closed doors you're trying to hook my girlfriend up with the recurring girl and whoever else you're probably trying to hook her up with.

And what about the other woman? Who's this, the recurring girl? What do you know about her?

I don't know too much about her. I just know that The best friend has tried to hook her up multiple different times.

And what about her exes? Does she have an interaction with them?

Yeah, so when I first met my girlfriend, she had this ex that she called baby's mom 'cause she had, the girl had two kids and my girlfriend stepped up to the plate and she was taking care of the kids, which I respected. If you wanna step up and take care of these kids, I'm not gonna come in between you guys. I respect it. But it got to a point where it's like, I can't keep doing this.

Is she also helping to raise your children?

Yes, she is.

So she has a pattern of Playing house.

Playing house.

That's your baby?

Oh yes, that's his. Oh my gosh, your baby is so adorable.

Adorable.

That is. When I first met her, I used to allow the kids to come over my house. I would be great to them. I would take them where they need to go.

The ex's kids?

Yes, but I stopped doing all that because it's to a point where the baby's mom is calling my girlfriend at all different types of hours of the day, the night, texting her about shit, not about the kids. So I eventually told my girlfriend.

You felt like there needed to be a boundary there now?

Yes, and she lacks boundaries with everybody. So I told her, it's either you go play house with your baby's mom and her two kids, or you have me and my child, and that's it, period. And she did tell me like this is where she wants to be, but that's not the case.

Got it. And you called the show because you're on her phone a lot?

Yes, because I go through her phone. I do the same thing you do, but I don't, I don't feel like, Everything's there because I'll read a conversation and there'll be like stuff missing, like little details.

So you wanna know what's deleted?

Exactly, because she's sneaky. That's, yeah, she's very sneaky.

I will say that's the one thing that we able to do. We find the stuff that's deleted and people always gag here when they think they can delete it. We like, girl, we tell y'all every episode we can find deleted and then they still try to delete.

Yeah.

It's like really the most wild thing to me. I'm like, you watch it and I say I find deleted and then you go delete it.

That's why I'm here. Yeah.

Like, I'm telling you what it is, but I get that. Okay, so my producers say that after your last argument, you changed your locks. So you don't want her to be living with you?

I changed my locks because we've been together for 3 years and I'm tired of doing the same shit with her. She knows she look good. She's very good looking, but I look damn good too.

Well, before we unlock her phone, I think it's time to meet Shay and hear her side of the story. So Shay, come on out.

Hey Shay, how you doing?

How you doing, Karamo?

Nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

Thank you for being here. So tell me about the day she kicked you out.

Well, first off, she took my phone when I was asleep. I was asleep on the couch.

You should've locked your phone. You should've locked it.

First off, I'm talking anyway. So she took my phone when I was asleep and I woke up, I went in her son's room. I'm like looking around like nobody's here, you know what I'm saying? So then I get his iPad, I call my phone, I keep calling. So she declined the call. Kept declining it. I called again and she finally answered. Now she's raging in the phone screaming or whatever. So.

And all you're saying is, can I get my phone back? Can I get my phone back? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. No, you can't get your phone back.

It doesn't matter. You still took my phone and you shouldn't have touched my phone.

You're still in the house cheating though. You was just talking to a whole female the night prior before I took your phone. You was. You was telling the girl she looked good and all that. Yes, you was.

Is that true? That was true, okay. So where did you end up going when she kicked you out?

I went to stay at my mom's house for a couple days. I was at my brother's.

Why y'all didn't believe her? Why y'all ain't believe her?

No, no, no, no, no. I went to stay at my mom's house for a couple days.

But he said you went to your brother's.

All I heard when you said, I stayed to stay at my, all I heard was, everybody was sucking their teeth talking about nah.

No, 'cause at first I went to my brother's house and I went and stayed at my mom's house. I was at my brother's house 'cause he has a phone and I was trying to get in contact with other people. 'Cause I had the iPad and I had no money.

They so untrusted, you see this? Like, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt 'cause I know better. So why were you willing to come here today then?

For my relationship, save my relationship. See what, you know? We wouldn't have to be here.

And to prove my phone that there's nothing in my damn phone.

There's nothing in my phone. We wouldn't have to be here though if you would stop doing the shit that you're doing. This is not the first time. I'm just tired of it. This is not the first time, not the second time, not the third time. You have done it so many times. She gonna get over it, she gonna get over it. Of course not. No, if you keep doing over and over and over and over again, how can I get over it? No.

Well, I'm already showing you. I'm already showing you that I'm doing better than I'm doing. I'm not doing nothing. There's nothing in my phone.

So how long have you just stopped talking to any other female besides me? How long? What's the longest that you went while you've been with me that you have not talked to no other female? Can you tell me that?

Couple months.

Couple months? Yeah.

Couple months.

That wasn't no good defense. Not a couple months.

Shit, she's always on my phone.

It was always like, why would I not? But like some situations is like a— But you said that you have been showing her, your exact words were, I've been showing you that I've been doing better, but you can't get over it. And then your explanation is a couple of months.

And we'll be together all day.

I'm saying a couple months because at like, if you're going through my, I don't know, like certain situations she's like getting upset about it. Like it might be like a conversation, you feel me? It's not like a, oh, you're talking to this female. Like if I'm having a conversation, I'm just having a conversation with a girl. I can have girls around.

You don't know how to just have conversations.

Friends, you can have friends.

You don't know how to have friends though. Yes, I do. You're not friendly.

Yes, I do. You get mad about everything.

No, you don't know how to be friends with somebody. No, besides your annoying ass best friend because she's not cute.

Why do you two stay?

It don't matter if she's cute or not.

Who's the recurring girl?

Wait.

The recurring girl?

Well, I can't say. But you, that's not the same girl.

That's the same girl that you said she's just a little ass girl. You don't gotta worry about her. Why are you worried about this little ass girl? But you talk to the little ass girl.

Yeah, she's just a friend. Like I never, I never like, Did nothing or whatever, nothing, nothing like that. I just talked to her on the phone.

Have you kissed her before?

No.

Have you had sex with her before?

No.

Have you held her hand before?

No.

Have you kissed her before?

No.

Have you told her nice things in messages?

We don't, we didn't even text like that. We literally like, it's talking on the phone, like literally 3-hour conversation. Like she—

How do you have a 3-hour conversation with a female and not have sex or not kiss, but you're on the phone with them all the time? How? And why don't you go be with her if that's the case?

No, I don't wanna be with her.

We don't even sit on the phone for 3 hours and 2 hours You can't sit on the phone for 2 hours, 3 hours. Because you're always doing something. Because you're always talking to another woman. I don't understand.

And 2 weeks ago, y'all got physical?

Yeah.

Like physically fought?

Yeah.

And what was that like for you?

It was a lot.

Have you ever been in situations where your relationship has gotten physical?

Yeah.

You have?

Well, it's just a lot 'cause it's coming from her. You know, like I'm not expecting like, you know, like her to get like that.

Because I try to hold my composure.

Have you ever been in relationships with a man?

No, it's my first one.

First one. You told my producer that you're afraid to lose this relationship. Why?

Just 'cause she's somebody different.

I actually love her.

I actually value the relationship I have. But the whole fighting and the whole nine, going through my phone, I feel like that's intrusive privacy anyway. The first time it happened, I just felt like I have no privacy.

You don't got no privacy.

So that's what— What do you mean? I don't have social medias.

Just 'cause I delete them. 'Cause I deleted them. I deleted them. Not because you don't want them, because you don't know how to act on your social medias. You're always telling somebody they look good or don't be a stranger. No, you say something like that. No, what do you mean? That's why, and you know that. No, I didn't say none of that. You know that.

Do you believe in monogamy?

Her last relationship, she was with 2 people at a time. That's why she thinks I'm gonna be like that.

That don't matter, that don't matter. That's not her and she's not them, so that don't matter.

So why you even idolize me?

Do you prefer to be in a polygamist or open relationship where there's one multiple person where you can have sex with other people?

No, no, no, no, no, not like that.

So I read body language, so I can already tell you I know when you're lying when you do things because one of your tells, I'm gonna let you know, one of your tells, I'm gonna tell you this now just in case in a situation, you, every time you're about to say something that makes you uncomfortable or a lie.

It makes me uncomfortable, but it's not like it's something I want. You know?

Right.

What do you guys think?

So I think there is a part of you, you're only 26. I think you've probably never been presented with the opportunity to be honest with somebody about what you really like. And I think you have gotten to a situation situation where you like to play home. And I don't know what's in your phone, but advice to you is that you should start being more honest because it becomes chaotic and it becomes toxic when the honesty is not there and people don't have a choice. That's my only advice. But we're here for one thing, to unlock the phone. So it's time to unlock the phone.

Matthew.

All right, Shay, we unlocked your phone. All right, Leigh wants to know if Shay has any inappropriate photos of other females in her phone. Shay says she does not. My Lock the Phone investigators searched her photos and found Shay is telling the truth. Leigh, you wanna know Shay has downloaded Instagram or Snapchat on her phone, two apps that you have specifically said you didn't want her to have. Shay says she has not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her apps and found Shay is not telling the truth. Shay logged on to Instagram on November 2nd, my birthday, girl, you was over there acting up.

On Instagram?

And on Snapchat in October.

So how does October— No, October you delete, that's when that happened.

Okay, but how do you—

You got banned.

How do you want me to—

Well, November you downloaded again and logged in.

No, it's banned from my phone.

No, it's not. October, November 2nd, you stayed You logged into Instagram.

How do you say you want to be in this relationship?

At 10:36, 10:30 at night, you logged into Instagram. Don't make that face, I'm giving you specifics.

No, no, no, no, I know that time, but I'm saying that's the time that you had my phone, so that's the time.

No, it couldn't have been, 'cause I would've seen Instagram. I would've been setting something up. Snapchat, Snapchat.

No, I'm talking about Instagram.

Yeah, Instagram.

Instagram. You logged on.

How do you say you wanna be in this relationship, but you keep doing shit to lose me? Like you keep doing shit to put yourself in a situation to lose me. And my child. But you say you love me.

How is any of this happening?

'Cause you don't know how to act. You don't know how to act. You don't know how to put, like, set boundaries or be like, I'm in a relationship. No.

Okay, but I didn't get on there. I just logged on.

You didn't get on there, but you just logged on?

Like, I didn't search or message nobody. I just logged on.

Okay. Lay wants to know if Shay has texts to specific women. Shay says she has not. My loca phone investigator searched her texts. And found Shay is not telling the truth. Specifically, there's one specific thing that we wanna pull out, my investigator wanna pull out, which is on October 12th, there was a text exchange between Shay and the best friend revealing that, "I'm in the car with y'all. So hello, get on the phone. If the shoe don't fit, don't wear it and pull it up to my last apartment with the big ass." I'm done with you.

That's what you want? You're pulling up to apartments? You pulled up to her apartment? Is that what? Is that what she's saying? You know what she's saying.

October 2nd.

I'm done with you. Go pull up to her house. I'm done with you. There ain't nothing else to talk about.

I'm good.

Okay. Shay, come with me right now. Shay, come with me right now.

I don't even know what that means to me.

Shay, it's in the phone. So listen, no, no, no, no. Whether questioning this, let me, 'cause this is what I have for you. 'Cause lemme tell you something. I have been where you been and I understand what it is like to be young, okay? You're attractive, you're handsome. I'm sure you're pulling ladies left and right, but it's time for you to start being more honest. I'm telling you, the relationships you can have with yourself and with these women could be better if you can just find the truth in yourself. I know that you like to have multiple women. You enjoy it. Tell the truth, it's okay. You do, I know, I know. Live in your truth, live in your truth. This is what I'm trying to help you to see. The thing is, The thing is, there is a woman that is going to match your truth 'cause it will be her truth. But the unfortunate part for you is you causing yourself to be in these situations where boundaries are being overstepped, where you have to feel like you're being controlled. You're 26 years old. You should be able to have Instagram on your phone, okay? And this is point blank. I understand why she doesn't want it because it's a boundary. It's about, hey, let's establish respect and trust. But the thing is, is that if you can't do that, because you're not in that space, that is fine for you. No one's gonna tell you you can't be who you are, but it's about you finding the courage in yourself to say, you know what, let me man up right now and say, yo, this is not what I want. Just be honest. This is done. Close it up nice. Don't go in there and argue, you understand? Lay, I know you backstage watching. I want you to go ahead and stay strong to this. There's a child that's watching. I wish you the best of luck, all right? All right everyone, thank you for being with us. Make sure to come back next time, friends, so we can keep talking and growing. I love you all.