In this KARAMO episode, host Karamo revisits Rachel and Alex, a couple with a 23‑year age gap who previously faced public criticism. Karamo decides to unlock Alex’s phone to investigate possible trust breaches. The inspection reveals two women added on Snapchat and the presence of the dating app Hinge, which Alex explains were related to a brief break in the relationship and their joint Snapchat Spotlight project. Rachel expresses surprise but also notes Alex’s openness about the contacts, attributing them to their social‑media‑focused work. A third voice, Speaker C, steps in to speak directly with Rachel, accusing her of normalizing harmful behaviors and urging her to recognize the hurt caused by Alex’s actions. The segment oscillates between confrontation, advice, and reflections on trust, boundaries, and communication within a relationship marked by a significant age gap.
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All right everyone, before the break we met Rachel and her boyfriend Alex and heard about the hate they received from having an age gap in their relationship. Well listen, you did bring Alex here today because you wanted us to unlock his phone. And so Alex, before we go into this, is there anything that you feel like we're gonna find that could be damaging to this relationship, that could be damaging to you? Anything at all?
No, I do not think so.
Okay then.
And the microcheating you said ended a long time ago, right? Yes.
Okay, good.
I'm just getting context. Well, Alex, we unlocked your phone. Okay, so you added two different women on Snapchat last week. Yes.
So Rachel and I, something we're doing right now is we're starting a Snapchat Spotlight page. Those two girls must have been some of the people that friend requested us for our videos and I had accepted them and just added them onto our account.
Sounds innocent enough. As of February 2022, you still had Hinge downloaded on your phone.
She's aware of that.
Were you aware of that?
So Rachel and I had a little bit of a break during that period and that's when I had downloaded Hinge and that's where I— Yeah, so I don't think we touched on that. We had a little bit of a break and that is when I downloaded that app and then we rekindled shortly thereafter.
Rachel, what do you think of this?
It's surprising to me, but I, he's been like, I see, I look at his phone all the time.
I've showed him the type of woman that reached out to me.
We're very open. I feel like he's taken a lot of steps. And I have seen those girls that send him those, whatever it is, and he doesn't, he's like, yeah, and he'll delete 'em because random people, because that's kind of the business that we're in. We're trying to do stuff on social media. So they do reach out to him and say, and send him weird things and that's not his fault. So I feel like he's been pretty open with me as of late especially. I don't know.
Alex, could you do me a big, big favor?
Yes.
Could you step away so I can talk to your beautiful girlfriend? Yes. Thank you. I'm not in your relationship day in and day out, but when I see a strong, beautiful woman like you in front of me, it starts to break my heart immediately. You're accepting bad behaviors as normal and making excuses for his behaviors.
Yeah.
It's the truth. Do you know that? Can you see that?
Oh, I know that they're bad behaviors. Yeah, I know they are. I know that they're hurtful.
And listen, I'm not here to tell you to break up or to leave this man or do any of that. I can't do it. You're a grown woman. You're strong, you're beautiful, but you're not out here looking at other men. You're not out here doing DMs. You're not out here making him have to question who you're talking to. You're not doing any of these things.
No, no. But every— I mean, and nobody's perfect. There's not gonna be any relationship—
