In this interview segment, host Karamo questions Speaker B about his past romantic involvement with a woman who was married and had two other children. The conversation reveals a recurring love triangle where the woman repeatedly left her husband for Speaker B and then returned. Despite the turmoil, Speaker B remained friends with the woman's mother and helped raise her daughter Caitlyn, whom he loves regardless of biological ties. After 25 years of uncertainty, Speaker B now seeks a DNA test to confirm paternity, prompting mixed reactions from Caitlyn, who is skeptical, and from his wife, who doubts his claim based on physical resemblance among the siblings. The interview touches on the birth certificate listing the father as "unknown" and the emotional complexities of family dynamics surrounding the possible non‑paternity.
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So how was your relationship with her mother during that time?
Oh, it was good, it was good.
How long were y'all together?
The first time was about 3 months and the last time was about, probably about 6 months.
And what was breaking you all up during those times?
That we kept going back and forth. She kept going back to her husband. Then we get back together after she get back with her husband. She call me, wanna see me, I go see her and we end up Being together again for another, for a while.
That was that love triangle. She couldn't make a decision.
Right.
So she was married at the time then?
Yeah, she already had two other kids with him.
Yeah. So are you still in contact with Caitlyn's mother today?
Yes.
Yes. And how's that relationship today?
We're friends.
You're friends?
Yep.
And what does she feel about the fact that right now you're still confused of if this could be your daughter?
I don't think she likes that I really wanna know.
Yeah.
I wanna know if she's really my child. It doesn't matter because I still love her no matter what. That's beautiful.
So I hear you say, "I love her." Does that mean that you helped raise Caitlin?
Yes.
Tell me about raising her.
Oh, it was fun.
Yeah.
One of the best times. I've seen her go through a lot.
Yeah.
I went through a lot.
Yeah.
I don't wanna just, I wanna be there with her all the time.
So why after all this time do you wanna know now? Since you've been there, you've went through stuff together, Why know this now?
'Cause it's bothered me for 25 years. Wow. I wanted to know if she was actually my blood child or if she was someone else's child.
Yeah. How did telling Caitlin that you wanted this DNA test go?
I told her I love her no matter what. If it doesn't go the way we want it, that's okay too.
So what was her reaction when you told her that you have these doubts?
She didn't really care to hear that.
Yeah.
She just thought, I don't believe that. I believe you're my dad. You've been there for me all these years.
Does she know about the birth certificate? Has she ever seen it?
Yes.
That it says unknown?
Yes.
Did she ever question her mother herself? 'Cause if I was a kid, I'd be like, Mom, why are you doing this? Like, the man is right here. You know what I mean? Like, what's going on?
I don't know why she didn't I'm gonna pester her mom more about it to find out more stories and stuff, I don't know.
So why does your wife think that this is not yours? 'Cause she's involved in this situation too.
Because her siblings, the other two children, Caitlyn looks just like them and the mother.
So it's because they look all alike over there, it's like the doubt. But even though you've been there, she's still like, that doesn't play into your wife's heart at all that maybe she could be yours? She's just convinced because of the looks that Yeah, she just did the looks.
That's not mine. She has some of my attitude, like she has no patience sometimes.
