Choose: Your Wife Or Your Fiancée? | KARAMO

Michael and I have been married for 2 years, very happy. We got married, and then I went to prison for 6 months. And when I was gone, Michael got engaged to Lashawna. I'm here to get my damn husband back. I know Michael isn't happy with her like he was when he was with me. I know my husband still loves me. Lashawna can never compete with our history. It's time for Michael to honor his marriage. I'll be damned if I let him go.

We have the divorce papers. He's ready. He's ready to get the divorce from her.

Okay.

She just won't sign them.

Are these the divorce papers?

Yes, they are.

Let me see. Okay. I'm gonna hold onto these if you don't mind.

No problem. All right.

No, I appreciate it. So how did you and Michael get together?

We met at the job. I was already in a different kind of relationship, you know, when we just started talking. I was talking to somebody else.

Okay.

We just started hitting it off with each other.

But did you know he was married at the time?

Not at the time.

Okay.

He told me later on that he was married to her.

How long into the relationship did he tell you?

About a month or so.

A month in?

Yeah.

Okay.

About a month in.

And how long y'all been together?

We've been together almost a year.

A year.

He's been in Arkansas. He's been there in Fort Smith for almost a year.

Got it. So a month in, he tells you, "I'm married." What was your reaction?

I was kind of upset at first 'cause he didn't say anything right off that he was married to somebody. He told me that it was over with. He didn't want to be with her no more. And so I took him at his word, you know? Figured, okay, he's gonna get divorced from her. And you know, he's told me he's, I'm divorcing her.

So what did Michael tell you about Demita?

Really didn't tell me too much about her other than she was just bad for him. You know, she was controlling. She would put him out. They argued a lot. He wasn't happy in that situation.

That's what his words are.

That's what he told me.

And we have a message Demita sent you on Facebook. Was this how you learned that she was a trans woman?

Yes, that's how I learned.

Okay. Hey, when you have time, please call me. You can call me baby gal, you can have him if you want because he's still my husband. And yes, I'm transgender, was born a male, been with Mike since 2006, met him in prison. Yes, I'm a male. Okay, okay. She was trying to say that to you to discourage you from continuing?

Yeah, yeah, she thought that was just gonna be a problem for me and him. You know, she thought that I was gonna leave him.

But you said no, you were like, baby, I don't care what he did.

I mean, that's your past, we all have one.

Okay.

You know, and so whatever.

And you're like, I'm the future.

You know, yeah.

Okay, I understand. Is Demetria the one thing that's stopping you from getting married?

Yeah.

That's it?

She is.

Okay then.

She is. All right.

How often has he tried to give her these divorce papers?

He's only tried to file, he's tried to give it to her one time.

One time. Okay, okay. Only reason I'm asking is 'cause I don't know their side of the story, but I'm just trying to figure out like, you know, my granny used to say it all the time, words are not as strong as actions. I can ask you a million times.

Right.

But you know.

He calls me every time he go to work.

Really?

He's on me at work.

Really?

He's telling me he still love me. And actually he knows that I done moved and was telling me that he's coming to move with me.

Oh.

I have all the receipts, baby.

But he has child payments.

Marriage license. Oh.

My marriage license. He has all the— for divorce.

Can I see this?

Yes.

Thank you.

He never mentioned anything to me about signing no papers. Never even told me anything about no papers.

Oh, okay.

So I mean, just like you brought your receipts, you brought your receipts. This is a marriage license, okay? Yes.

You said, "I am the wife." I am the wife and I'm gonna take my husband back home with me.

He's coming home with me.

So did you know that they were being intimate on, like through FaceTime?

No.

She's also saying that they communicate when he goes to work. Did you know that?

He's told me that he's talked to her.

Oh.

He has told me that he has talked to her.

So it sounds like he's painting a whole different picture for you of what's going on.

He is, he is, he is. Yes, he is.

So why did you two separate?

First and foremost, I went to prison for 6 months.

Okay.

And we separated by me going to prison.

Uh-huh.

Other than that, he was writing me. He was sending me money. I got out, we talked, tell me how much he loved me, he ready to come back home. I mean—

If he was ready to come back home, why didn't he just leave?

That was when I had first got released from prison in July of last year. But he still could have had time to leave 'cause he had been living there. Well baby, like I said, I don't know what you and my husband got going on, but I come to take my husband back home with me.

Well, he's not going back whether you want him to or not. He ain't coming back. All you need to do is just sign these damn divorce papers. That's all we need.

My husband know I will never give him a divorce. He knows that.

Okay, we'll see. We will see today.

Well, we'll see today.

I mean, he's told me that he loves me.

Treese, honey.

He's told me that he wants to be with me. He wants to marry me. He wouldn't have never put this ring on my finger.

Oh. When did he ask you to marry him?

About a month and a half ago.

A month and a half ago.

We actually have a date set to get married.

So I'm gonna ask you a legitimate question and this is no judgment. This is for me to understand facts. If you know he's still married and he hasn't signed the divorce papers, why would you accept the ring of engagement?

Because he has told me he's getting a divorce.

Okay, okay.

He has told me that he's getting a divorce.

He's been telling you this, he's been telling me that.

And when's the wedding?

One thing about it, Demita ain't signing no papers.

September 24th.

Never.

So on September 21st, you're supposed to be getting married?

Yes.

Okay. Well listen, we've heard both sides of this and I think it's time to hear the person that's in the middle of all this. So let's introduce Michael to the show. Everyone come on out.

How you doing, Sexton?

Get off the gas, man.

How you doing?

Okay, so how do you feel about what was just said, Michael?

This is my baby.

Okay.

Real talk. What she took me through, I would never ever jeopardize my future. This woman have put me out. This woman is with a man right now that tried to destroy me.

Demita, you have a relationship right now?

No, I do not, sir.

Okay.

You don't?

No, I was dealing with a guy.

The same guy that tried to destroy me, she moved him in. Pictures on her Instagram, they together. This woman called the rehab where I was a director and told them to drug test me because I was getting high. Broke me and my family up. When I was homeless, before I even got homeless, she telling me, "Your family don't want you." "You nasty." Yes.

So what happened?

I wasn't here.

But she wanted to control the whole situation. She knew I didn't have nowhere to go, so she was the only one I had to depend on.

But that was before you—

She cheated on me. I even went to the truck and she had a condom sitting on the console and she showed it to me. She was like, "Yeah, I'm finna go fuck." And she did that.

Okay, rewind that a little bit, baby.

The reason why I talked—

Rewind what? The reason why I talked—

There ain't nothing that you could justify on that.

Okay, the reason why I did tell you—

Nothing, I don't care if you told me or you didn't tell me, you cheated!

I did that, I did that, reason why.

And then you expect me to come back to you?

The reason why.

After you done made me lose several jobs?

Baby.

You have put me out. You put me out, I'm your husband.

What'd you do to me?

You could've told me to go to another room. Babe, you moved me out your bedroom.

Yeah, I told him get out my bedroom. Exactly. Go in the other room.

Exactly.

I did that.

How?

Why? Mike, come on, let's don't do that.

What you mean?

Let's don't do that.

Yes, everything I did to you, you deserved it.

Okay.

What did he do to you? Because you're saying you're owning up to this stuff. You're saying yes, I did have sex with him and I did call the rehab place where he was working.

The rehab? The reason why I put him out my room, because he was on drugs.

So was you.

Yeah.

Demetra's a pill head.

You did bring us here because you wanted to unlock Demetra's phone. You told my investigators you wanted to know if she was making up the Facebook profiles to harass you online. That was a question you had, correct?

Yes.

Well, I think it's time to unlock the truth on that.

Please do.

All right, Lashawna, you want to know if Demetra is making up Facebook profiles to harass you online. Demita says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched through her apps and DMs and found that Demita is telling the truth. There is no evidence that Demita has been making up any other social media profiles. My Unlock the Phone investigator also found that Demita is telling the truth about having contact with Michael. There have been 25 phone conversations between them over the past 2 weeks. And what was interesting, my investigator wanted us to know, is that Michael, you initiated majority of those conversations. So you were calling her.

Then you tell me.

Because look.

My investigator also confirmed that the FaceTime screenshots are from this month.

Check it out. The reason why.

Did you know that?

The reason why I got in touch with Demito, because of the simple fact, Shonda got them texts.

Why you gonna blame it on me?

Hold on.

'Cause who else would have access to see your Facebook?

I mean, we now know that it's not her.

I really don't—

'Cause I've had friends that she's been having send Facebook messages to me. But look, who else would send Facebook messages?

Why would I contact you?

Why would anybody be so concerned?

This was my property.

He's not your property.

I said this was my property.

I'm not nobody's property.

Okay, baby, okay. Well, that's my husband.

You had that shit wrong.

That's my husband.

Demetra, Demetra. You need to sign these papers today.

I'm not gonna sign no papers. You know I told you I would never get a divorce from you.

Like you told me.

Well, Mr. Karamo and his security team can get you to sign them papers.

No, sir.

Okay, well, I think, I mean, this is what we're talking about in court.

Because look, this woman bring me so much peace.

Baby, you said that now that you was with me.

Michael, this is the moment.

After a month and a half.

Michael, you have choices. You have two choices here. Divorce. Or go back with your wife. You choose which one you want.

Oh, baby.

See, that's the situation.

You had your marriage license.

Uh-huh.

And you can get them divorce papers.

Uh-huh.

So you just want her to keep the marriage license?

She can keep them.

Put them in the frame, put them on social media. I don't care what you do with them, but sign them papers, please.

Baby, please. Don't take that home. Take that back home.

'Cause this woman right here—

I ain't worried about that woman.

But I am.

Okay.

But you'll be calling me.

I'm worried about this woman.

Demita, unfortunately he's telling you that he does want a divorce.

I'm worried about this woman.

He does want a divorce. Why is it that you still wanna stay in it?

Because I know he coming back.

Use a damn lie, and the truth ain't in you.

Why would you wanna be with somebody that don't want you?

I would never.

Why would you wanna be with somebody that don't want you?

The only reason why I even got with you, because my mom passed.

Other than that, everybody else. Let's correct that. You got with me because you needed an address to parole out.

My mom had passed. I got a house down there.

I'll put you in it. Okay, well, baby, your sister staying in it. It ain't even worth living in it.

See what I'm talking about?

It's not even worth living in it. See, you always trying to tell me what I need to do. Because I'm gonna keep it 100, and you know I am. So all that faking and lying and shit is over with. You will be calling me. For what? You tell me. I've been living my life and doing me, but you steady calling me.

What I'm calling you for?

I don't call you. You'll block me.

You the one begging me to come back.

Oh yeah, most definitely. Baby, you know I'm not gonna sign no papers. Don't ever disrespect me like that.

I'm really sick and tired of this shit.

Babe, listen to me.

Make it look good, baby.

This is me and you.

Make it look good, 'cause I know one thing.

You hear me? I hear you. He'll be back.

This right here.

He gonna front.

That's history.

He been lying all his life.

This right here.

All his life.

This is the future. You know I love you. You know I would do anything for you. I would never ever in my life ever go back to a toxic situation.

Okay. Only because you made it so much better. I damn near died. Because when you came home, you had the world with me. And still come right to this day.

That's for natural shit.

Okay, but still, your natural shit ain't made it to you but me.

For natural shit, baby.

I'm fucking not thankful for that.

Demita and Michael, I appreciate both of y'all being on the show. I'm gonna ask both of y'all to step backstage so y'all can have more of this conversation about this. I'm gonna talk to you for a little bit. But thank you so much for being here.

My emotions is like all over the place. Place at this moment? I mean, I don't, I'm mad for the simple fact that he just is not doing what he's supposed to do, what he said that he was going to do.

And I understand that, but my question for you is what are you supposed to do? Because you can't control this man's actions, but what you can control is what you're allowing yourself to receive and understanding what you deserve. You're too mature to be playing these games.

Yeah. Yeah.

Come on now.

I don't know what's been going on. I wish I could understand what happened with your self-esteem, what happened in past relationships. But there's something that's making you think that this is what you deserve.

You deserve better.

You deserve better. You hear them? You deserve better than this.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do.

You really do. I'm being honest with you. Yes, I know Demita just got outta prison, but you don't deserve to be in a life sentence with this man. I just pray that you hear my words, you hear this audience encouragement, and you see the beautiful woman you are. Listen, you have risen above, all right? But sometimes when you rise above, You rise above, you gotta go ahead and fly away and leave that behind, all right? So please do yourself a favor and don't get back involved in this. Let them stay backstage and let you fly somewhere else. Don't go along with this anymore, okay? You deserve more than this. You do. And if nobody else has told you, Karamo's telling you, all right? I wish you the best of luck, all right?

Thank you so very much, Karamo, for helping me through this. Um, something that I wasn't willing to face, but I believe I have the courage to do it, to face it all now, to move on with my life. Michael, I'm not sure what you want in life, but it's clear that it's not me. I need to lay this behind. And not deal with this toxic situation.