Did He Choose His Wife Or Fiancé? | KARAMO

Karamo mediates between Michael, his estranged wife Demita (a transgender woman), and his fiancée LaShawna. An investigator uncovers 25 calls between Michael and Demita in two weeks and recent FaceTime screenshots. Both women refuse to sign divorce papers, and Michael won't choose.
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Today we're looking at never-before-seen backstage footage. And for these next ones, all I have to say is buckle up.
I met Michael 2006 when we was in prison together. My whole life, I never found or had love like this before. Michael and I have been married for 2 years, very happy. We got married, and then I went to prison for 6 months. And when I was gone, Michael got engaged to LaShawna. I'm here to get my damn husband back. I know Michael isn't happy with her like he was when he was with me. I know my husband still loves me. LaShawna can never compete with our history. It's time for Michael to honor his marriage. I'll be damned if I let him go.
Well, listen everyone, before we meet Michael and Demita, please welcome LaShawna to the show. So I was trying to figure out I'm trying to take notes really quickly to get to understand the facts. What is your take on this whole situation?
I'm sick of it. You're sick of it? I'm ready for her to just go away. We have the divorce papers. He's ready to get the divorce from her.
Okay.
She just won't sign them.
Are these the divorce papers?
Yes, they are.
Let me see.
Okay. I'm gonna hold onto these if you don't mind.
No problem.
All right.
No, I appreciate it. How long into the relationship did he tell you?
About a month or so.
A month in?
Yeah.
Okay.
He told me that it was over with, he didn't wanna be with her no more. And so I took him at his word, you know?
So what did Michael tell you about Demita?
Really didn't tell me too much about her other than she was just bad for him. You know, she was controlling, she would put him out, they argued a lot. He wasn't happy in that situation.
That's what his words are.
That's what he told me.
And we have a message Demita sent you on Facebook. Was this how you learned that she was a trans woman?
Yes, that's how I learned.
Okay. Hey, when you have time, please call me, baby gal. You can have him if you want because he's still my husband. And yes, I'm trans. I was born a male. Been with Mike since 2006. Met him in prison. Yes, I'm a male. Okay. So does Michael want to get back with Demita in your opinion?
No.
Is Demita the one thing that's stopping you from getting married?
Yeah.
That's it?
She is.
Okay then.
She is.
Have you ever met Demita in person?
Never.
Never?
Never.
So today on this stage will be the first time.
This will be the first time that I've met her in person.
So everyone, please welcome Demita to the show. Hey Demita.
Hey, how you doing?
How are you doing?
All right.
You look beautiful. Nice to meet you. Thank you for being here. So how do you feel about what was just said?
First and foremost, I don't know you at all. I spoke with you one time on the phone. That's it. And it was about my husband. I come for my husband, not for you at all.
Okay, well, he doesn't want you. Okay, okay.
Well, first and foremost, again, he don't want me. He calls me every time he go to work.
Really?
He's on me at work.
Really?
He's telling me he still love me. And actually he knows that I done moved and was telling me that he's coming to move with me.
Oh.
I have all the receipts, baby. But he has filed papers. Marriage license. Oh, my marriage license.
He has filed for divorce.
Can I see this?
Yes.
Thank you.
He never mentioned anything to me about signing no papers. Never even told me anything about no papers.
Oh, okay.
So, I mean, just like you brought your receipts, you brought your receipts. This is a marriage license, okay?
Yes.
You said, I am the wife.
I am the wife and I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna take my husband back home with me.
He's coming home with me.
Every time my husband FaceTime me, he masturbating. I'm getting naked for him. We doing it all because that's my husband. He belongs to me.
If you say so. He's mines. Okay, well. He is mines.
I know one thing, he'll never leave Demita.
Yeah, he will. Never. Yeah, he will. Well, we'll see today.
When did he ask you to marry him?
About a month and a half ago.
A month and a half ago.
Mm-hmm.
And—
We actually have a date set to get married.
So I'm gonna ask you a legitimate question, and this is no judgment. This is for me to understand facts. If you know he's still married and he hasn't signed the divorce papers, why would you accept a ring of engagement?
Because he has told me he's getting divorced.
Okay, okay.
He has told me that he's getting divorced. And he's been telling you this, he didn't tell me that.
And when's the wedding?
One thing about it, Demita ain't signing no papers.
September 21st.
Never.
So on September 21st, you're supposed to be getting married?
Yes.
Okay. Well listen, we've heard both sides of this and I think it's time to hear the person that's in the middle of all this. So let's introduce Michael to the show. Everyone come on out.
How you doing, sexy?
Get off the gas, man.
How you doing?
Okay, so how do you feel about what was just said, Michael?
This is my baby.
Okay.
Real talk.
What she took me through, I would never ever jeopardize my future. This woman have put me out, This woman is with a man right now that tried to destroy me.
Demita, you have a relationship right now?
No, I do not, sir.
Okay.
You don't?
No, I was dealing with a guy.
The same guy that tried to destroy me. She moved him in. I even went to the truck and she had a condom sitting on the console and she showed it to me. She was like, "Yeah, I'm finna go fuck." Whoa! And she did that. And you expect me to come back to you?
The reason why—
After you done made me lose several jobs?
Baby.
You have put me out. You put me out. I'm your husband.
What you do to me?
Everything I did to you, you deserved it.
So we clearly see you two are still in contact with each other.
Yeah.
I told Lashawna.
I said, "Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you that I have not thought about it." Thought about getting back with her?
Yeah, I said, "Because I have." I said, "We married." I said, "Don't nobody want a failed marriage." Have you ever asked me to sign any divorce papers? Man, I sent you the divorce papers and you threw 'em away.
Come on, man.
Why you sign 'em?
For what?
But we got 'em today. But you told me.
Hold on.
We got 'em today. And before you leave this show, you need to sign these or else I'll get a restraining order on you.
Oh baby, well do what you got to do 'cause I already told you first and foremost.
I mean, listen, you have a question, you want the answers, it's time to unlock the truth. All right, LaShawna, you want to know if Demita is making up Facebook profiles to harass you online. Demita says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched through her apps and DMs and found that Demita is telling the truth. There is no evidence that Demita has been making up any other social media profiles. My unlock the phone investigator also found that Demita is telling the truth about having contact with Michael. There have been 25 phone conversations between them over the past 2 weeks. And what was interesting, my investigator wanted us to know, is that Michael, you initiated majority of those conversations. So you were calling her.
Now you tell me.
Because look, my investigator also confirmed that the FaceTime screenshots are from this month.
Check it out. The reason why.
Did you know that?
The reason why I got in touch with Demetra 'Cause of the simple fact, Shawna got them texts.
Why you gonna blame it on me?
Hold on.
'Cause who else would have access to see her Facebook?
I mean, we now know that it's not her phone.
I really don't— 'Cause I got friends that she's been having send Facebook messages to me. But look, who else would send that? Why would I contact you? Why would anybody be so concerned?
This was my property.
He's not your property.
I said this was my property.
I'm not nobody's property.
Okay, baby, okay.
Well, that's my money. That's my husband.
Demetra, Demetra. You need to sign these papers.
I'm not gonna sign no papers. You know I told you I would never get a divorce from you.
You told me.
Well, Mr. Karamo and his security team can get you to sign them papers.
No, sir.
Okay, well, I think, I mean, this is what we're talking about in court.
Because look, this woman bring me so much peace.
Baby, you said that before you was with me.
Michael, this is the moment.
After a month and a half.
Michael, you have choices. You have two choices here.
2 options here.
Divorce or go back with your wife. You choose which one you want.
Divorce. Baby.
See, that's your decision.
You had your marriage license and you can get them divorce papers.
So you just want her, you want her to keep the marriage license?
You can keep them.
Put them in the frame, put them on social media. I don't care what you do with them, but sign them papers, please.
Baby, please. Don't take that home. Take that back home.
'Cause this woman right here.
I ain't worried about that woman.
But I am.
Okay, but you'll be calling me.
I'm worried about this woman.
Demita, unfortunately he's telling you that he does want a divorce.
I'm worried about this woman.
He does want a divorce. Why is it that you still wanna stay in it?
Because I know he coming back.
You the one begging me to come back.
Oh yeah, most definitely. Most definitely, that's why I'm—
I tell you what, if you want me so bad, get your ass on your knees.
For what?
For what?
Exactly.
For what?
On my knees for what? You gonna tell your wife to get on her knees?
If you're angry at me standing up on your feet, beg me on your knees.
You know what? I'm sick of this.
So sign the papers, please.
Baby, you know I'm not gonna sign no papers.
I'm sick of this disrespect. I'm really sick and tired of this shit.
Demetra, Michael, I appreciate both of y'all being on the show. I'm gonna ask both of y'all to step backstage so y'all can have more of this conversation about this. I'm gonna talk to you for a little bit. But thank you so much for being here. So I'm gonna talk to her a little bit. There you go. Yeah. First of all, as a Black gay man, I love how you have handled this situation. What I don't like though is how you are putting yourself last. This clearly is a situation where he's not ready to make a choice to put you first. They have each other and they clearly know that with the toxic cycle they've been in, he's feeding something to you, but I'm telling you whatever he's feeding to you, is BS because we witness what's really going on here. You deserve better. You hear them? You deserve better than this. Listen, you have risen above, all right? But sometimes when you rise above, you gotta go ahead and fly away and leave that behind, all right? So please do yourself a favor and don't get back involved in this. You deserve more than this. You do. And if nobody else has told you, Karamo's telling you. All right? I wish you the best of luck.
All right?
Thank you.
All right.
The truth always comes out here, whether it's on this couch or when the guests step off stage. Take a look at this.
You know I love you, man. I'm not going back to that. I'm not doing a repeat, man, of the life that I left. It's just not worth it. It.
So is all these phone calls and everything going to stop?
Look, the only time, man, I, I told you, the only time I call her is when some come up, man, on Facebook or whatever.
I thought today was going to be it. It was going to be over with. It's going to be done with dealing with her.
But that don't mean that we still can't get the divorce though. She ain't got to sign the paper.
I need her out of our life.
It ain't going to stop nothing, man, from what me and you got going on. It ain't going to stop marriage.
I love Michael, and he knows I love him. I'm not trying to just start completely over.
Ain't nobody or nothing, man, can get me out. I come too far, you know, and you helped me get here. You better forgive me.
I can forgive you.
I'm not doing this for the camera.
We're going to stay together. We're going to make this work between me and him. He's going to get the divorce. We will get married September 21st.
I appreciate you, Mr. Karamo, man.
I know all the advice you gave Shawna. It was the right advice you gave her. But we grown. We make our own decisions.
Some truths came out today that maybe needed to be known.
Dude, I love Lashonna. This is just beginning. I'm not an angel. I'm not perfect. I know I got to be better, and I got to do better. I know that if I want to keep this.
I know.
And I apologize.
Now watch that Demeter.
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