Did I Waste My Time Raising A Daughter That's Not Mine?! | KARAMO

So you said your girl keeps going back and forth on if you are this child's father or not.

Yeah, but she be kind of like rude and disrespectful about it. Like we both grown.

Yeah.

I got 4 daughters and all my daughters, I take care of them and love them and I give them the world.

Amen.

I love that.

So she tell me the kid is mine. I'm happy.

Yeah. Were you there during the pregnancy?

Oh yeah, we was together. We lived together. I was working at Valvoline. I went to work every day, came home to my family, a good cooked meal from her. And a good shower and et cetera every day. And then it started getting bumpy and we ended up moving into a shelter. And one day we got in an argument and she was just like, "The kid is not yours." Wow. But I heard it before, but I didn't believe it from my first kid's mom. That's the person she told first.

Yeah, okay. So tell me this, let's go back to, I wanna take us back to when you first held your baby. What was that like for you?

The greatest feeling in the world for the fourth time.

Yeah, fourth time.

Okay.

I looked her in them beautiful eyes. She got like her auntie, rest in peace, her Auntie Toya. That's who she named after. I did that for her.

Yeah.

It's a legacy thing.

And—

Yeah. It's all right.

It's all right.

Here you go.

Nah, I'm gonna let these tears come out. It's therapeutic.

I got it.

It's all right.

Okay. Okay.

But—

Yeah.

I looked that little girl in her eyes and I imprinted on her. I seen the galaxy, the stars, and I took her under my wing. She was gonna be under my legacy with my last name.

Yeah.

As I continue to do today.

So how did her confession hit you emotionally? Seems like it killed you.

She didn't gimme a confession. She did a coward move by telling my first kid's mom.

Yeah.

You could've told me before, after, whenever. I wanted to hear from her mouth herself. That's all I deserve from her mouth.

What hurts you the most about being misled? Why?

Why?

Just like the why.

Yeah.

We both had a lot of things going on 'cause her sister passed away and we took in the kids and was taking care of them together and I owed it to her 'cause I had another little girl. I wasn't gonna get my junior. I said, "You lost your sister." But we came together and said, "Let's name her after your sister." That's what we did.

Yeah. Okay.

And how old is this child? 2.

2 years old.

She'll be 3 in March.

It's okay. So for almost 3 years you've been dealing with this, not knowing for sure. Have you developed a relationship with your potential daughter?

Potential? She is my daughter, sir. No disrespect. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No disrespect, but—

I don't feel any disrespect from you at all.

I got the biggest bond with all my kids. It's equal. Ain't no favor. They all love me equal. When my kids see me, it's daddy. Eyes big.

Yeah.

Big smile. Loving me, hugging me.

Yeah.

Everything.

So for you, this is your daughter?

Yeah, so we got this little special thing that I do with her called kiss the feet. She gimme her foot. I kiss one, then she give me the other one, and then I'd be like, "I want another one," kiss him again. That's my baby, man. That's my toy, girl.

So you've been active in this child's life since day one, even through her saying you might not be the father?

Yes, sir.

Okay then. And how long were you two together again?

8 years.

8 years together. Are you still together now?

In my head, we kind of together.

Okay.

But in actuality, no, sir.

Okay, you're not together. Okay then.

Well, you sure painting this picture like you just Mr. Perfect.

Okay, so tell me, what's going on?

Chaz was just, he—

Okay.

Fuck.

He never was home, running off all the time, leaving me there with the kids. My sister passed away and when she passed, he was just, he was never there. He was always gone. Holidays come, he was leaving me at home with the kids. So that's why I end up meeting another man and confiding in him because he wasn't there.

Got it.

I was grieving losing my sister, you know what I'm saying? And I felt like he should have been there with me. I had 2 kids of my own and gained 4 extra ones that I could barely take care of.

Was it you that gained them or was it we?

You were never there.

Okay, that's fine.

You were always gone.

Was he faithful during the relationship?

No.

No, I took care of everything. I paid all the bills, I did all of that. When you did get your valeting job, you ran off every time you got paid with your cousin. So therefore—

Were you faithful?

Yes.

You were?

Yes.

She says you're not.

Oh baby.

If I slept with another person, it's me and her come to agreement we're not together and I'm not there, just as she did with y'all.

No, you were just—

You would leave.

You didn't do the same?

You would leave 2 weeks, 2, 3 weeks at a time.

Answer the question, Latonya. Did you not do the same?

Chaz.

When we was together, if we say we not together and I leave home and I'm not there and you doing your own thing, right? And I'm doing my own thing, that's not considered cheating.

I was at home with my kids. You would leave and be gone for weeks at a time.

That's running around the question, ma'am. Come on now.

Okay, I wasn't cheating.

You wasn't sleeping with nobody when you said we weren't together and I was gone?

I was not.

Okay.

Did you know early on that the baby might not be Chazz's?

I did.

You did?

I did.

Okay then. Well then that would confirm what he just said that—

Yes.

That you were sleeping around when y'all had the twins.

I didn't know. I didn't start messing with nobody else until he started leaving me at home.

Okay.

But apparently you had been leaving her at home, so you probably already been cheating.

Nah, you know I wasn't.

Make it make sense.

You know I wasn't cheating.

You said I never was at home, I always run off, right? What kind of woman knows that and just be like, okay, all of a sudden later on down the line, I'ma go cheat and then possibly get pregnant. You been talking.

I needed somebody. I needed somebody.

What do you mean? I needed somebody, you wasn't there.

Late at night, all this year, voice calls. She never caught me cheating. I done caught her cheating with multiple men.

Seriously?

During our whole relationship.

Seriously?

In the beginning of our relationship, she was still sleeping with her ex-boyfriend.

Oh, wow.

I'm lying?

You're lying.

And the guy she was cheating on him with, on me. So how am I wrong?

I was cheating in the beginning.

That was in the beginning before we even considered ourselves together.

But why you didn't put that all out there? We putting everything out there. We wasn't even together.

You was cheating on me in the beginning.

It's hard to believe. You're lying even to God and leave stuff out, that's what I'm seeing.

Okay, we wasn't even together.

You just said we was together.

Do you know how long? 8 years. Do you know how long?

If you had doubts in the beginning, why not just tell him at the beginning?

I'm not even gonna lie, I was scared, Karamo.

Okay.

I was scared, you know, and I knew that it would hurt his feelings, you know what I'm saying? And I knew—

But why be scared knowing the person we named our daughter after, which is your sister, the same thing happened to her?

And you blamed your mom, you said that mom, for 13 years kept us from— That's the reason why I came here and said something. Because I didn't wanna wait too long.

I didn't wanna wait too long until she got too old and then tell her, like what my mama did. My sister didn't find out that she had another daddy or other siblings until she was 30-something. Then 5 years later, oh, my sister get hit by a car in front of my niece. You know what I'm saying? So that's the reason why I felt like, oh, I need to go ahead and say something. Let this out and not hold this. I don't need to keep this from my daughter or not let her know then when she get older, she gonna be like, "Dang, my mama didn't tell me that." Oh, that it was another man or possibility or whatever the case may be. And when I told him, he still chose to stay around.

Okay.

You chose to stay around and I appreciate that. You are a good daddy.

A very good daddy. I didn't say I chose, I stayed because she's mine. You can't take—

I'm a real father.

Can't nobody tell me this child is not yours and think I'm just gonna stop being in the child's life.

Show me proof. Y'all both older than me. Okay, yeah. We could have been got DNA tests done and all that.

How did your relationship How did it end from your point of view?

It was toxic. Toxic. We started fighting each other in front of the kids. Like stuff was getting broken in my house. Like it had got really, really bad.

It goes both ways.

I believe it. I know I can see that. I can see how once the trust was broken, how the communication broke down, it got toxic.

I can see it. Yes, it got very toxic.

And I do believe it's on each, in both of your parts as well.

I take 100% accountability for all my actions and everything I did.

Do you wanna get back with Chaz at all? Nope. No. When you did not tell him initially, and then when you did finally tell him that he might not be the father, did you apologize?

Yeah, but no, because I kind of did it outta spite and outta anger.

So now what I was saying to you is that if you didn't apologize to him, I think for the co-parenting journey that you all are gonna be on, I think that he is owed that. Whether these results are his child or not.

Yes, sir.

I do believe he owes that. Do you believe that, sir?

Yes, sir.

I understand.

Okay. Do you want to give him that apology?

I apologize, Chaz. I truly do. I'm sorry. I did not mean for this to go this route for the both of us, but this is something that we both need to get closure on. You know what I'm saying? For we can figure this out and figure out how we gonna move on with our life. But no, I don't think we should stay together. No, I don't think we should get back together 'cause there's no trust at all with neither one of us. I think you need to work on you and I need to work on me.

Okay. That's healthy. So my producers are telling me right now that Chazz, you told them if this child is not yours that you have receipts for what you're owed back.

Oh yeah, I definitely, oh wow. I got receipts of what you owe me too, baby.

Okay.

Now you wanna write some shit down?

I'm with Artemis.

You wanna write some shit down? What is that? Overnight hospital fees, dad supply.

Dad supply, what is a dad supply?

Anything and everything I done bought from her for the child.

You are crazy.

Okay. Anything I bought for that child, I deserve it back. Spending time with her watching her all that, I deserve it back.

Emotional damages?

Yes.

Oh, well.

Yes.

You're being through—

I done been through hell with this woman.

Let me tell you how much money I done spent.

Can I talk, please?

Go ahead, finish.

Thank you.

Thank you, Latonya. I done been through the works with her. She'd have been through the works with me. But at the end of the day, for everything I've been through, I've been through, I deserve that back.

Whether it's through taxes, something.

You got it.

I done been through something.

You got it on taxes and they took it. Because listen, They took me.

'Cause listen, for her to say I never been there financially for my kid, that's a smack in my face and insult. 'Cause I spend money on my kids. Okay, I'm not the big splurger on my kids, but like she said, we take care of our kids. They with her 24 hours, of course she take care of 'em more than me. But I do my role.

Okay.

I do my role. I just had my kid that's mine and her kid that we talking about on my daughter's birthday. And I spent time with both of my kids. Got it. Went out, took him shopping, let's go get food, and I had him for the night, and it was one of the best nights of my life.

Family Dollar, shut the fuck up.

Hey, Family Dollar, Family Dollar, $9, this shit don't even matter. You ran out the fuckin' store. It don't even matter. I went with— What did you do for my daughter's birthday? So why you over here trying to claim? What did you do for my— Wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Why you over here trying to claim? When I had my kids, when I did all this on my daughter's birthday, what did she do? I'm gonna tell you like this. No, I don't have it. I got 7 kids, I take care of baby. I'm not gonna fake. Well, don't fake on me. I got 7 kids.

I get my kids. But the thing is, the co-parenting part.

Yeah.

Co-parenting.

So what do you hope this DNA results will show?

You know what? I want him to be the daddy, but at the same time, I don't want him to be the daddy. The other guy, he don't want nothing to do with me.

He was like that when she slept on me with him.

You said what?

She went to him for closure, right?

He was there for what?

Some shit.

What bitches you done went to? That's what he was there for. What bitches you done went to? Because listen, while I was at Beverly at work, her cousin told me who the man was. I contact that man. That's 'cause you were fucking my cousins. I said— You were fucking my cousins. Let's be honest. I doubled back. I doubled back on it. Okay, yeah. But I never—

Cousins, no. Cousin, yes, that was before you. The same cousin that told her when I got with her, yeah, it was nothing serious, but yeah, I let him smash a couple times.

And you were messaging her and shit too.

But you went to fucking me after your cousin told you she done messed around with me.

What you mean? I came to her woman to woman and asked her. That don't make no sense.

All right, listen. You don't cross that code.

But my actual family members.

So let me tell you something. She was toxic from the beginning. I completely understand why now you said, "I do, but I don't." I understand.

I went and did what I did when she rubbed it in my face. I get it.

No matter, I don't even know. That my kid wasn't mine and did all that weird disrespectful stuff.

The past is not important to me right now. I made sure you got an apology for the things that you said.

And I appreciate you, and I appreciate you for your apology.

Yeah, but I think that the disrespect that you have for each other, if this turns out to be your child, has to stop. Calling her and talking about the things she has. I think the mantra for you all is to remember that the past is in the past.

Yes, sir.

Like, you can't have it. You're not together. And bringing up the past only hurts the child. But I think what is most important right now is we need to figure out if this is your child. So Chaz, are you ready for the DNA truth?

Yes, sir.

All right, come with me. Chaz, in this envelope, Is the DNA truth. You were in this child's life, you were there from the beginning, and then you were told that this child might not be yours. I know that you've still been there, you hope that this child is yours, but it's time for you to find out the truth. This is your truth to open up, mine, so good luck.

Can you walk?

Can you open this envelope with me, please?

She's not yours.

I'm sorry.

It's okay. 'Cause I'm still gonna be there. Please don't, don't take her from me.

I'm sorry.

I love you, I love these kids. I can't get this up. Please don't take her from me, please. Please. I'm cool.

Thank you, Karamo.

Yeah, you're welcome. And lemme give you a, here you go.

Here you go, man.

So you said, take a seat for me. You said that the other gentleman is not somebody that wants to be in your life right now?

No, I've reached out multiple times to him. I called him about the show. He did not want to come. And I just, I mean, I don't know. I want Chaz to be in her life, you know? I done asked this man plenty of times and he just, he come around and he disappear, he come around and he disappear. But I kind of already—

Kind of had a sense.

Yeah, that she was his.

Okay, and your daughter is 3 years old now?

She'll be 3 in March.

3 in March, okay. And do you have another child together?

Yes, she's 5.

She's 5.

Yes.

So you will be together and you will be seeing each other?

Yes. Okay.

Do you think that you want to continue a relationship with this little girl?

That's my baby still. I don't care what this paper say. That's my baby.

I'm sorry that you're not the father. I'm sorry that this had to unfold like this. The thing that I will say is that outside of the child, for your other child's sake and even for this child's sake, I really hope that you all can find and take my advice of letting the past be the past.

Yes.

Because the disrespect disrespecting each other, and it's both ways.

Yes.

You know?

And that's what I'm saying, Karamo, like it's, things have gotten so bad to where we can't be back together.

Yeah.

You know, we can't. It's been too much to go on. I'm struggling enough.

Yeah.

And I'm not happy, you know, and me not being happy and then I go home and I take stuff out. I can't take it out on my kids, but I'm not gonna say, I love my kids with all my heart, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, I gained 4 extra kids. I don't want them to see me steady arguing and fighting with a man. I want them to see me happy. I want my kids to be happy. And right now, no, my kids are not happy. They're not because they're tired of seeing us fuss, fight, argue, stuff get broken and all of that. And only way we can move on from this is by separating, moving on with our life. You know what I'm saying? Even though this is not something that He wanted to, it's not even something that I really wanted to do, but when I figured out that things wasn't getting no better, you know, we can't even live together. He can't even come to my house.

Yeah.

I just want to co-parent and be there for my kids.

We can do that.

She ain't gotta worry about me bothering her. I just, we can get through all that. We good. Just let me love my girls and be there for them. And if you need me, call on me. That's all I can say, for real.

Perfect, okay. Listen, I wish you both the best. The best of luck. And if there's any other support you all need, I'm here for y'all, okay?

Oh, appreciate it.

Seriously, seriously, yeah.