Did My Sister Sleep With My Baby Daddy? | KARAMO

Well, my sister's been accusing me of sleeping with her baby dad for like over a year now.

Over a year?

Over a year.

Wow.

And it basically started off because they were not together and he was staying in his vehicle basically. And so my dad was leaving to California and I told him like he can come over there and he could shower. If he needed to stay there, he could. He's welcome to. 'Cause at the end of the day, that's my niece's dad. And that's still family. And basically what happened was that him and my sister, they were coming over to my apartment and my sister basically asked like, "Do you know where she lives at?" And he, I don't know why he did this, but he lied and basically said, "Oh, that he didn't know where I lived at." And my kids put him on blast and was like, "Oh, you know, he has you, you've been here." That's what started that situation. And so it's been like—

So did he lie to her about showering at your place as well?

Basically, yeah. Which I think is kind of ridiculous 'cause I'm like, dude, for one, you're grown. There's nothing to lie about. So why lie about it? And then because you lied about it, she's trying to come at me and ask me like, you know— What's going on?

What's going on?

Why he lied about it? I'm like, I don't know why he lied about it. I don't have nothing to lie about it. You asked me, I said, yeah, like he's been to my house.

Yeah.

You know, but it's just more so like he planted that seed of doubt in her mind. Now recently it's become an issue because we all live together.

So you, your sister, and her children's father.

The situation is like we live with family, you know, we have a property, the house, and he just basically pays for my sister and my nieces, you know, room and whatnot. But like he stays out in, you know, in his vehicle in front of the house, but we still all around one another.

So he's currently living in his van? In the van right now?

Yeah, he's currently staying in the van and whatnot.

Okay, so this is the house out here. That's his van right there where he's staying? Yeah. Okay, then got it. Okay, I understand.

Yeah.

Does that say?

Oh yeah, she's messed up his vehicle, broke his windows.

Your sister did that?

Yeah, my sister's done that.

What?

Which is why it's becoming a problem. Yeah, that's why it's become a problem. You know what I mean? It's not even just affecting me, it's just more so my family. You know?

But if you tell her nothing's going on and you're her sister, why does this keep going on?

'Cause she's delusional. We're two different people, two different, you know, like we both have two different tastes in men.

Are Rosa and Jose still together?

They deal with one another.

Okay.

I don't know, it's crazy. I don't even wanna put her on blast. I mean, but she got like a whole dude, but she's still, you know, there like playing house with him. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Why even bother? Like with this even accusation, you guys ain't even together. There shouldn't be like no reason why you should feel any type of way towards me because I've never shown you that. We're family. I was like, for one, two, it was just like, there's no reason for you to even think that about me.

We have a recording of your sister going off that my producers want me to hear.

Can you play it for me?

Oh, mm-hmm. You guys are narcissistic as fuck, dude. You're a covert narcissist just like my mom, just like my dad, bro. And you guys are just evil people that do unnecessary evil, bro. I did nothing but helped you guys out and this is how you guys repay me? It's cool though. Look, listen, Esther, it's cool though because you'll still be sad, bitch. You'll still be at the end of the day by yourself and you're lonesome with your fucking dog.

Mm, okay. Mm.

Mm.

So it sounds like she's had issues with your mother and father before.

She has issues with everyone in the family.

Okay.

You know what I mean? Like I said, it's not a me problem, it's a her problem.

Got it.

Why do you think that it's me? You know, like if you finding stuff in his van, Why does it necessarily have to be me?

I gotta ask this, have you ever had any sexual intercourse or stuff with any of her boyfriends before in the past?

No.

Okay, I'm just making sure.

Yeah, no.

Because it gives context, you know, you gotta know, okay? Like, so never? No. Not once, okay. So you're the one who called the show to unlock your phone to prove your innocence?

Mm-hmm.

Okay, good.

Yeah, because I feel like I don't even know what to do no more at this point, but it's crazy because it's just like, that's my sister, I love my sister.

Yeah, of course. Of course, yeah. What's making you emotional? What's making you emotional? What just made you emotional right there? Yeah.

It's frustrating because that's my sister. Like, we're only like one year apart and like we grew up together. Like I've always had like her back. Like why do you think that about me?

Yeah, why doesn't she believe you?

Yeah.

I wanna hear Rosa's side of the story. So everyone please welcome Rosa to the show. Hi, how are you? Good. So I gotta ask you, why do you think your sister is sleeping with Jose?

Okay, so let me start off by saying the reason why I think that is because they lied about him even staying the night. So before I even— no, listen, stop. Before you had your chance to talk though. Okay, so you had your chance. Okay, so then when I— before I even step in the door, right, into her apartment, my niece comes out and she's like, Jose stayed the night. Why would my niece feel like she had to tell me that? Like, before I even stepped in, like, you know what I'm saying? It don't matter. It doesn't even matter. Esther, I didn't even know he was, okay, I didn't even know he was staying over with you. Let me continue with the story. Okay, so we started living together, right? When I would leave, I came back and I found condoms. No, let me tell you why.

In his house or in his van?

In his van. In his van. I'm a lot, Lisa.

I'm gonna sit there and hop in the van and a couple feet from the house?

Esther, yes.

Esther, you don't stop playing with me. You see where his van's parked? She's accusing me. No, no, no, no, no.

You're accusing Mr. G of sleeping with him in the van? Esther, you're a sex addict. Stop playing with me. You're a sex addict. Stop playing with me. Stop playing with me.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not a sex addict.

Yes, you are.

I'm a sexual person.

Let me see a picture.

Can I?

Okay, so I had put it.

No, no, where's a picture of him?

It doesn't even matter, it don't matter. It don't matter how he looks like. It don't matter. It's not my time. It don't matter, Esther, you don't even have a time. Stop playing, Esther, stop playing.

I'm sorry, but that's not him.

Okay, can I see?

That's not him?

He's not bad, he's not bad. Don't do my pictures like that. But he's deceiving though, I'm telling you right now.

Stop playing. Don't get me wrong, he looks really nice right there, but I mean recent picture. Where's the recent picture?

No, no, no, there ain't no recent picture.

Where's the recent picture?

Stop playing, that's years. That's been a couple of years. That's not playing.

She's saying that's not her taste, that is your taste.

It don't even matter, it don't matter.

You found the condom, you bought the condom.

Okay, so let me tell you, let me tell you. So the first time I found the condom, a straight condom, like a straight, just a condom, you know? So I was like, what the fuck?

I told my baby, I was like, you asked me nicely, but you're out of pocket.

Are you gonna let me, how am I, can I, am I out of pocket?

You know, sometimes I'm really trying to hold my composure here.

Hold it, why? Why are you getting upset?

She gets crazy with her, she gets crazy with her emotions. Don't try that with me though.

Why is she getting that upset though? The thing is like this, so let me tell you.

Because it's upsetting, because it's frustrating that you're doing this shit.

In that message that I heard earlier, you said, You all treat me like, you treat me now like mom and dad. Have you felt like in this world?

Yeah, because my whole life has been like that. Like I'm the black sheep of the family. That's why she says everybody has a problem with me. Yeah, because I tell 'em the truth. Like, so lemme tell you like this. Okay, so.

Okay, look, I gotta ask one other question because I know now I gotta get some. So my producer also said you talked to them about camera that you have facing the van.

Yes.

Tell me about this camera you have facing the van.

So like I wanted to, you know, get footage. Like I was like, I have everything else. Everything else is already there. Like her.

Yeah, but my mom and my dad being there, my brother being there, my son being there, my nieces being there.

Whoever can be there.

You don't have respect.

You don't have no respect.

You don't have respect for nobody in the house.

Really?

You don't.

What do I do?

All this crazy shit.

Esther, all this crazy shit. Am I not finding condoms in there? Am I not finding your sunglasses in there? You found my sunglasses in there. Didn't I find your sweater in there too? Bitch, you've been fucking with the wrong one. Esther, you've been fucking with the wrong one. You've been fucking with the wrong one for a while, so this is the thing. She can say also—

Did you find anything on the camera when you saw it?

No, no, because every time I— No, let me tell you why. Let me tell you why, because every time I leave, disconnected. Every time I leave, disconnected.

Why?

Why? Because you guys disconnected. It was not my kids. You and Jose.

One of you is gonna get kissed.

You know what?

I'm so sorry. Stop playing.

I'm so sorry because you know what? She's accusing me of all the finding these things. Yeah.

So you and you are not even with Jose anymore.

No.

So why does this matter?

Because the thing is like they've been for a while.

You feel like— So you and your husband—

The thing is like that's my sister. That's like I noticed their maneuvers, how they act like each other now. Like they don't even talk to each other when I'm there.

Exactly.

When I leave, they're having full-on conversations. That's crazy. You be doing this crazy ass stuff. Yeah, because you're nasty, that's why.

Not even the case because he's not even there. When you're not there, he's not even there. Why would he be there when you're not here?

'Cause we're gonna unlock some problems. I wanna make sure. You wanna know if Esther has been texting with Jose. You wanna know if Esther has DMs with Jose and if Esther has any inappropriate photos of her with Jose. Those are your main concerns, correct?

Yeah.

You just wanna know. You wanna know if there's any interaction.

Even if it were to come out that, you know, that they're not, cuz I feel like—

She knows there's nothing in my phone, that's what it is.

She knows there's nothing in my phone. She knows there's nothing in your phone, you're right.

There's nothing in my phone.

Well, let me tell you one of the things that we do on this show is that if things are deleted, we find it. We do that all the time.

Yeah, no, no, that's fine.

We find things that are deleted.

But that's the thing though, there's nothing in my phone.

I wanna make sure you know that. If you haven't watched this show, people come on here and they think they can delete stuff all they want. And we will find it deleted. So what I want you to know is, so what would happen if we did find something in her phone?

Would the relationship end between me and my sister? Yeah.

You found something?

Yeah.

If we don't find anything, she's still going to be able to be like.

Acknowledge it. Exactly. No, it's not crazy. You're finding your stuff in there and finding those condom wrappers is crazy.

No, no.

Because who isn't using the condoms?

No, no, no. I need some.

No, no, no, no, no, no. What else? What else?

Sunglasses.

Rosa, you don't even get in the Van. So how is your stuff getting in the van?

Exactly my point.

How you know. Exactly how you. You know.

You've been texting all day and I already know what it is. It is time to unlock the phone. Esther, we unlocked your phone.

Yeah.

Rosa, you wanna know if Esther has been texting with Jose. Esther says she is not. My Unlock the Phone investigator searched her texts and found she is telling the truth. Rosa, you wanna know if Esther has any DMs with Jose. Esther says she does not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched her DMs and found.

You can look at me all you want. You can look at me, I like, that doesn't prove nothing. But where's the lie? No, stop playing. Stop playing.

She is telling the truth.

I know.

She knows Esther, she knows. Rosa, you wanna know if Esther has any inappropriate photos of her with Jose.

No.

Esther says she does not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her photos.

She knows this, she knows this. She knows deep down inside, she knows there's nothing, but she still wanna sit there.

She is telling the truth.

She wants to sit there and do that stuff.

I don't believe that.

I told you.

Not only did we search your sister's phone and search through everything, I also am a very good read of judge of character because this has been my profession for years. And I saw your sister cry on this stage because, no, no, no, hold on. Because she missed you and because she's hurt.

Mm-mm.

But what I also know is that you're hurting. And let me tell you what, when I asked you about your mother and father, I know there's a piece of you that has felt like no one listens to you, no one believes you, and I know you feel ganged up on. I know it. And I know that whenever that started, you didn't deserve it. And now it's caused you to always have a defense up, feel like someone's trying to hurt you, and it's caused now a little bit of this paranoia. But it's not fair. And so I'm gonna ask you this, where did that start? Because that's what you deserve to heal from.

Don't do that. Okay, please don't ask me that. No, because at the end of the day, you're like, all this, all this, I feel like this, like I feel like this.

Stay with me. What is going on? When did it feel, when did it start that you felt like your family wasn't there for you?

Since I was young, they've always been like that.

They ganged up on you?

I feel like they accuse me of being crazy. They always like everything I do, like they always criticize everything I do. Like it could be like simple stuff.

So they criticize? Yeah. They don't believe you. Usually those things align with someone who might have had substance abuse issues. Were there substance abuse issues?

Yeah.

Okay, got it. Okay, this makes sense. So substance abuse issues, and then what happened there is you're trying to figure out your life as a young woman, you're having these things, and now everyone says, I don't believe you because of choices you were making then. Do you feel like they're not on your side? I'm asking you.

No, they just automatically don't believe me. Believe me? Like they don't even care what I have to say.

'Cause they don't even want to entertain it because they know it's not true.

How are the condoms getting there if the van did not come?

They were entertaining this before 3, that's what it is. Hold on, let's stick back. Let's stick back because what this is, since you've had those issues in the past, Do you feel like you've grown? Do you feel like you've done better?

I feel like I've grown because you can shake your, this is what makes me mad because it's like, why are you shaking your head?

I saw it, I saw it. Do you still have the substance abuse issues?

Do I? Yeah.

You still have those? Mm-hmm. Okay then. So that's why there's those issues that are still underlying. I got it now. So the issue here is what you're dealing with and what you're going through. And that's why I had to get to the core of this. At the core of this, There's a young woman who's been dealing with some substance issues, who's still dealing with it, and whose family doesn't know how to support her anymore. And that unfortunately is making you feel hurt because through this, it's like it does cause a bit of paranoia, but also you still are screaming out. Anybody who has had substance issues, I've had 'em before in my past, we still want support, we still want love. And when you don't have that, it feels like everyone's against me and I'm gonna find reasons to show you you're against me. And that's what's happening. Happening here. I'm telling you, I could put this puzzle together easily. I mean, and the sad part is, is that I'm sorry because you don't deserve to not have the support you need. But I also understand family's frustration. I also understand when a family's like, I'm tired, I can't deal, I don't believe anything. But it doesn't mean that you don't deserve that support that you want. So what you need to do is understand that when you're ready to actually get support for your substance abuse issues, I want to personally invite you back and say I will support you. I will personally support you and help you out and figure out how to get that. And I'm gonna sit here, I'm gonna listen to you, I'm not gonna judge you. And I want you to know there's somebody who understands what you're going through and wants to help you get to that place where you can feel good and where your family can feel good, okay? I'm giving that person an invite. What I'm also releasing you of, as I wanna release you and understand that there's nothing, she just said out her own mouth, there's nothing you can do to prove to her. As a result of your substance abuse issues, your relationship will always be fractured. And that's just the end of the day. So listen, I've told you all both what helped. Thank y'all for sharing your story with me. I wish y'all the best of luck. I'm here ready. You know what to do. And stay with us, friends. We'll be right back.