Did You Ghost Me Over Drugs? | KARAMO

Audience, I wanna know from you, what is worse? Having a bad fight with your best friend or this? Getting ghosted. 'Cause 9 months ago, my next guest Cassie was about to move into a new apartment with her best friend Fredo. But after she gave the landlord a security deposit and signed the lease, Fredo ghosted her. I mean deleted her from social media. No calls, no texts, no nothing. Take a look at what she had to say before the show.

Karamo, I have no idea why my friend Fredo ghosted me. We've been friends for 15 years. He used to be like a brother to me and now we're total strangers. I've been worried sick about Fredo and the last time I heard from Fredo was in January and then he abandoned me. It's been almost a whole year since I've heard from him. He blocked all my social media and my phone number. And the only reason I know he's still alive is because he wrote into this show. I think he may be hanging around the wrong crowd or even worse, doing drugs. Fredo, let's face this head on. I agreed to come here to get some answers. I need to know, Fredo, why did you ghost me?

Well, listen, y'all, Fredo couldn't ghost my producers, all right? And so he is here to answer Cassie's accusation. Everyone, please welcome Cassie to the show first.

How you doing, love?

All right, so Cassie, tell me about this friendship with Fredo.

Yeah, so Fredo and I have been friends since about 3rd grade.

3rd grade? Yeah. Sweet.

Yes, going on 15 years now. He's met my family, I've met his family. We've gotten super close. Yeah, and he's met my daughter.

Okay.

We've gone through some, we've gone through ups and downs, whatever life can throw our way.

So then what's been going on then?

I've been waiting to hear from Fredo for a very long time and, you know, I miss my friend. I just wanna make sure he's okay. And also, you know, to kind of let him know to not do that to me again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

'Cause you were supposed to move in. Tell me about that. You were, yeah. Why did you make that decision?

Okay, we've been planning on that since we were in high school. And when it came down to it, Fredo completely ghosted me.

Yeah.

And I don't think that's okay. And to leave everything on me.

Did you put down $1,200 for that apartment?

I did.

That is some money, okay? I don't know about y'all, but $1,200 you just don't put down and be like, oh, it's done. Yeah, no. Like, that is some money.

Yeah.

So when did you realize that Fredo Fredo was ghosting you? When was the first time you realized it?

When I wasn't getting text messages back and when I know he blocked me was when I called him and it would go straight to voicemail continuously.

Got it.

You know, all of that. Social media, I wasn't able to message him.

And is this directly right after you signed the lease?

Oh no, we, okay, so the last time I seen Fredo was at my daughter's birthday party. Got it. And the last time I heard from him really was from New Year's. And when it came to signing the lease, which was what I remember, January 10th, I have not heard from him. And yeah.

Did he ever give any excuse of why he didn't sign the lease?

Not at all. No.

Nothing. Not one answer.

No, nothing.

So he just pretended like it wasn't supposed to happen.

Yeah.

So do you think he might be on drugs?

So I'm not positive. I'm not positive if he is. However, you know, By the way he just ghosted me, not talking to me, blocking me, it only left me thinking that, especially because I come from, you know, losing someone suddenly to drugs. And yeah, it's okay.

So it's a trigger for you.

It definitely was a trigger.

Yeah, so you lost someone from drugs and then you see his erratic behavior.

Yeah.

And so is that the only reason why you think that he could be on drugs?

I would say that, you know, and we grew up together. So, you know, in high school when we were younger, you know.

You witnessed things.

I guess so.

You saw, had fun, you know what was going on.

Yeah, and we've also had fun together too.

So you know that there, it could be a history and then it could have gotten worse.

Yeah.

Makes sense to me. Did you ever have feelings for Fredo?

As far as feelings?

I saw the smile. I saw the smile.

Okay, so I enjoy Frodo with all my heart. And as you all are gonna see, he's very attractive, but we've always kept it cool.

Okay.

Always. There's been a boundary that we both have respected, and I love to show my daughter that as well, that you can be friends with anybody and it and be respectful. And be completely respectful.

That doesn't mean that the feelings aren't there underneath though. Well, listen, Cassie has waited 9 months to confront Fredo. So I wanna welcome Fredo to the show. Hey Fredo, how are you doing?

What's up, pretty girl? How do I look right now?

You look—

Do I look like I'm on anything? Do I look like I'm on drugs?

Okay, you actually look pretty good.

I don't believe that shit, that's how you feel right now. Especially hearing what you said, you're worried about me, but—

I am worried about you.

But the thing is like, you say you've been worried about me, but you didn't work on anything. You didn't hit me up at all. And I get it, I ghosted you, I get that part. And that's what I'm working on today.

Wait, hold on, I'm gonna say something.

Hold on, girl, 'cause you just fucking talked for like 20 minutes.

I think if you left me unblocked, you would've seen seen how much I tried to contact you.

Turtle, I could see your emotions. Are you mad at Kathy for starting rumors about you?

Hell yeah, bro. 'Cause like, and like she said, we go 15 years, Karamo. Like we both seen something. No, hold on. Like you asked me a question, bro.

I'm just gonna say that no one started rumors from this end.

Okay, I get it. You didn't start it or whatever. But the thing is, the thing is, as my, again, back to 15 years, like, The thing is, back to the 15 years, bro, like you know me, like I feel like you should've just brushed that off. Like we wouldn't even been here today.

Hold on, brush what off? Brush you ghosting me off?

No, brushing off the drug rumors, bro. You know what I'm talking about. You know how, okay, 'cause we kind of live our, a little.

Can we kind of refrain back to why I'm here?

I know why you're here, I get that.

Or not even that, I'm kind of worried.

But I'm also kind of hurt that you're saying you're worried about me, but I never once heard like a, how would I say the word?

Like I said, Fredo, if you would've left me unblocked, you would've seen seen everything I tried to say.

I guess you're right on that part. I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

So why did you decide not to move in with Cassie?

Yeah.

Okay, so I'm gonna be real with you. I'm a young man and I just feel like I guess I'm not ready to grow up right now. And I'll be real with you. I'll give you that, Cassie. You're very prioritized. Like you know how to like get shit going, you know?

And I could say maybe I do just because I have a daughter, you know? And I thought as best friends—

Can we please not talk about, like, I love your daughter. Just get that straight. Let's get that straight.

Yeah.

But the thing is like when you say like my daughter, my daughter, like I don't know. She's my life. I get it. And I get that, bro. But like the thing is, bro, like I'm not, I don't want that to even be a part of like any of this. Like that's the thing. Like your daughter has a whole separate life that has nothing to do with our friendship. Like, and I'm not saying I don't wanna be a part of your daughter's life, but it's just saying that like sometimes you use that in a way where it's like my daughter and it's like, what did I do to your daughter? I haven't done nothing to your daughter.

Yeah.

Okay, well listen, I'm ready to hear from my audience and see what they have to think about the situation right now. So what are your thoughts on this situation? So if I haven't spoken to you for nearly a year, I would've thought you was on drugs too.

But why?

'Cause you just ghosted me.

Okay, but can I ask you something? Do I look like I'm on drugs right now?

Maybe, I don't know. I don't know your personal business.

I'm willing to take a drug test right in front of you two. I'm willing to.

All right, so you're saying you're willing to take a drug test. Do you feel as that that will solve the problem? Would that be something good for you?

Honestly, you know what? I, just for peace of mind and so that this isn't all for show, let's do it.

I'm willing to do it, but like the peace of mind gets me. 'Cause it's like, what's the peace of mind?

Because Fredo, you mean so much to me. I care about you. And ultimately, despite the $1,200 that's gonna come back, Fredo, you are my best friend. So I'm super understanding.

Okay. Sorry, girl, but this is a lot.

So for me, in my heart, like, I'm very forgiving, so I understand. And all I wanted was for you to just be like, look, I don't feel like talking to you right now. Yeah.

All right, I'm gonna be back 'cause I need to talk to him.

All right, like, can I just go to my room, get a water or something?

What's going on? What are you feeling right now?

I just honestly, I feel like that's not coming from the heart right now. I feel like she's just trying to save face right now. I feel like she's not saying really what's on her mind.

Yeah, I understand a friend's concern. I know you just said y'all not best friends and I think this whole situation got muddled because of the ghosting. I think that's obvious, but—

Okay, but sorry to cut you off.

Yeah.

But the thing is like, let's say a friend did ghost you, be honest. You're gonna think they're on crazy drugs?

I don't know y'all situation.

I guess so, right?

And that's the thing. I don't know your situation. If someone is saying that she feels that way, that's because she seems genuine to me that she's coming outta love. And I think clarity on this, will you just take the drug test and we can be done with this?

Of course, of course. It's just that like, I just feel like this whole like—

I think the minute that we get the drug test, then you have more grounds to stand on and say, listen, cut it or now there's an issue.

Of course, no, I'll take, it's just that like, I feel like her saying all this like stuff, like where it's just not coming from the heart to me. It's exactly, it's not coming from the heart to me. 'cause I feel like if we were off camera, she wouldn't say that to me. You know?

Got it.

But who knows, maybe she would, maybe she would. But I'm just, I can't right now. I'm just, I feel like—

Well, let's go ahead and take the drug test.

All right.

And then now we can get to the next level.

All right.

The minute we get that, you'll be good. All right.

Sorry for walking off on your show.

You don't have to apologize. Listen, I tell people all the time, when you see the emotions Things come up, that's when we know healing can start. So I appreciate you for being your authentic self always on this show. Cassie, we have the results of a drug test right here. I think these drug test results are the first step in you finding out the answers. This gives clarity, this gives you understanding if drugs were a part of why he ghosted you. Cassie, I think this is important for you to open since you had questions and you were the one that was ghosted.

Okay. Regardless, I love you as a friend. Just do not ghost me anymore, okay? Just open it. I think you just need to be, I think you need to be told that.

What does it say? 'Cause I didn't see the results before. Is there drugs on there?

There, yeah, there is. Here you go.

Let me see.

However—

Hold on, 'cause we gotta get these results. Okay, so Fredo, it said that you did test positive for just marijuana in your system.

Just marijuana.

Thank you.

There's nothing else else.

And after this, like, I'm good. Like, after this, because I had to take a drug test for you.

Why did you send me?

But I had to take the drug test for you, bro. And just, the thing is like, okay, I don't mean to put our business on blast for you. We smoke weed together. Smoke a joint together, so it's not like about—

Exactly. And I'll say that I've—

Sorry, because I didn't mean to like put your business on blast like that, but it's like when I have mommy time, I will have some edibles.

I— we have smoked. We grew up together, photo.

The point being is that the fact that like this whole time, this whole time I dibbled dabbled in just a little bit of weed, and here we go, I'm on, on this crazy stuff.

Okay, I will say this though, because there's a couple things at play here. We gotta start now that we have those results. Ghosting someone may seem convenient in the moment.

Yeah.

But that causes so much confusion. I think in this moment when there's money involved, and I think that's the key to this. It wasn't just like, okay, we're friends and we've grown in high school and now we're growing apart. It's like we made a commitment to do something that's big. I understand you weren't ready for that responsibility and rightfully so. I think y'all should have never gotten to that agreement where y'all moved in together anyway because She has a child, you are a young man. I don't think there should have ever been the agreement of thinking that could work out. But you made the choice, you made the choice to say you would go through with it. That's for you where the maturity needs to start happening. I understand that it gets uncomfortable. It's like, how do I tell somebody that like, I don't wanna move in right now. Like I don't have the money. Like I don't wanna be a, I don't wanna play daddy. I don't wanna do any of those things. 'Cause those are the things you said. But you have to be able to figure out a way to have that courage to do that. Because I think as a young man, I think you had that in you. I saw how you're able to communicate out here. You're very clear on what you have to say. In those tough moments, don't lose Fredo who knows how to communicate. Do you get that?

Yeah.

And I do wanna apologize if I've ever made you feel like you can't talk to me.

She just apologized to you.

I'm sorry, Cass. It's hard right now. I just—

But hold on. But do you have a part to play as well? Can you apologize to her for saying like, I left you out there. This is a single mother. Who literally had to come up with money, a large amount of money for a decision that you two made together. Can you apologize that that had consequences in her life?

I can apologize for that.

Thank you.

But I honestly, it's just, it's a lot.

You gotta just, you can't go. Sorry. You gotta say I apologize and that's it. That's it.

Okay, so to keep it real, I do apologize 100% for that whole financial situation. 'Cause at the end of the day, like he said, maturity lies 100% with that. You gotta be real with it. But that's—

And you know what? And regardless of what this says you're positive for.

Well, no, you can't. This is what I'm gonna say to you. You can't say regardless anymore because the thing is at the end of the day, well, no, I got this for you. I got this for you. At the end of the day, Cassie, you gotta learn this. Cassie, I know what you're saying.

I do marijuana.

Cassie, look at me real quick. At the end of the day, the thing is, is that what he's saying is that I needed my friend just to know that I would never make a rash decision. I know that because he ghosted you, you felt it. But he feels embarrassed right now that he had to do that on my show. I appreciate you doing that for clarity, but you have to acknowledge that now he feels embarrassed for it. And so every time you say, well, I realize that it wouldn't, regardless of what it is, regardless of what it is, it just invalidates the fact that he feels, and the same way I made him apologize to you, you gotta accept that.

Yeah, and I totally do. I think I'm just trying to reiterate how much love I have for you. No, I get it, I get it, but there's a bigger thing here.

There is a bigger thing here. Not only with just your maturity. I could see you as a young man, it just remind me of myself in many ways that you're on a journey right now of just figuring out like how you wanna live your life, how you wanna party, how you wanna go out, the friends you wanna have. You're on your journey. But the thing that I will say to this, I heard you say clearly that you were sober and you had a clear pack on that. And then you decided I wanna drink a little, I wanna smoke a little, which is fine. You're a young man, you can be making responsible decisions, but I will let you know it becomes a very slippery slope. So I want you to just continue to be cognizant of the people you're around and the things you're doing. Because I promise you, I've been there before, a drink and a blunt turns into a bump. And so don't do it, okay? Just make sure you're watching yourself, making sure you're watching the people you're around. And also remember that there are people in your life, there are people in your life like Cassie, that though y'all have grown apart, I do believe she has your best interest interest at heart. And so I don't want you to ever give up on people who know you from day one, all right? Because this day one, even though y'all are hurting right now, I feel like if something happened, she'd be the first one there. She'd be the first one there. She'd be there right there with you like, really, it went down? Oh my gosh, I got you. I'm gonna support you. So don't throw that away over an inability to communicate. Don't throw it away for that. Don't throw it away.

I'll try not to.

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