Family Feud… Two Sisters Fight Over Money and Emotional Trauma | KARAMO

Sibling drama can get real crazy. I have some sisters, so trust me when I say it can get messy fast. And that is exactly what happened with my next guest, Jelly. Jelly has gone viral on social media for being able to alternate her looks, but her sister Aaliyah is far from a loyal follower. Let's all welcome Jelly to the show. Hey. Hey. How are you doing?

Can I have a hug?

Hey.

Jelly, you are fly.

Thank you, baby.

Thank you. Come through. I love the alternating looks.

Oh, thank you.

My gosh. I put a wig on, everybody be like, take that off. You look cute in it. Okay. So Jelly, why are you here today? Talk to me.

Well, me and my sister tried to go into a family business and a wig business actually. And her part of the business was to handle the money, the accounting side of it, and pretty much book our, you know, our photo shoots and stuff like that. So when it came time to do the photo shoot for the business, She told me she found a photographer, she sent me the photographer, I approved of it, and she told me the price for the deposit, and me, her, and our other business partner were gonna split the deposit 3 ways. So I sent her my half and she said, "Okay, I booked it." So about 2 weeks passed and I said, "Whoa, today is the day of the photo shoot." I forgot about, you know, she hasn't said anything. So now I'm like, "Okay, well let me text her, let me hit her." I get no response. So I say, "Well, let me call the photographer and see if she has a booking for us today." The photographer says, "Yes, I have a photo shoot for Aaliyah only though, not for a business." Oh wow. "Okay, well let me try to request my deposit back on Cash App." When I tried to request the money back, I accidentally pressed send. So I sent the same amount again.

Mm. So now she got double your money.

She got double my money. So I tried to request both amounts, now I'm blocked on Cash App. So now I can't even see the transactions, I don't see. So I'm like, hold on.

But this is your sister.

This is my sister.

How much was the amount for?

A total, in total of $500.

$500?

Yes. So it's not about the amount, it's about the principle for me.

Okay.

You know, I've had more stole from me from people that I didn't love, but that's my sister.

What has she said to you when you try to collect the money?

She completely denied a transaction ever happened. She completely denied I ever sent her money. She even showed proof of Cash Apps that said it never was sent. I had to find emails because it wasn't showing in my transaction anymore that it did happen.

So my producer said something happened on Mother's Day. Can you tell me?

Yes, on Mother's Day, that was my first time seeing her in like 2 years.

So this has been a 2-year rift between you and your sister over basically $500?

Yeah. For the sake of Mother's Day, of course I wasn't gonna make it about my issues. So I enjoyed it and I was cordial. She told a joke, I hehe and living. But you know, it wasn't like, I didn't wanna make it too like, you know? But you could kind of tell that it wasn't no, for us to be the sisters at the table, We hadn't said too much of anything to each other. So once it's over, we walk out of the restaurant and she says, "Hey, I wanna fix this." And she has her Cash App out. And I say, "Okay, well send it to me." She starts lying about the amount. She starts saying that my money didn't go towards the deposit, that her shoot had been booked. That conversation ended where I didn't get my money.

And I told her, "You be blessed." Though she did admit that she got money from you.

She did admit, yes.

'Cause she took out her Cash App.

She came right out with the Cash App green screen and was like, "Hey." I wanna fix this, da da da, which that was new for me from her. So I'm like, okay, let's talk. Thinking that she was gonna be the bigger person. I didn't leave with the money and I told her, look, that's my stance. I want my money, period. I've let her get by with so much stuff. That was the deal breaker for me. Everything else has probably been something that wasn't, that was more emotional turmoil that she caused on me. But this was something tangible. So it was like, no, this time I want my money.

So you all had emotional issues before? Tell me about 'em.

Before, I grew up as the black sheep of the family. You know, I'm the gay child. So I grew up in a very religious home. They just wanted us to do right, you know? So when I came out and I became openly gay in the 8th grade, I suffered a lot growing up. You know, I suffered so much in the household after that, which grew a bridge between me and my parents. So I felt like my sister kind of made that problem her problem. And since I had been gone from home, she just would constantly start rumors about she ran into me and I look like a crackhead and take it back to my mom, take it back to my mom. And when they would see me, it's like, she looks perfectly fine. You know, what is that for?

How old were you when you left home?

I was 17. I was a junior in high school.

Oh, you were a baby.

Yeah.

Wow. That had to have been devastating.

Very devastating. I slept out of cars, you know, did what I had to do just to be able to be myself, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. It's a story too often people in our community who are LGBTQIA identify have to go through. And so during that time, When you were out on the streets and Aaliyah was making up these stories, how was that making you feel?

It made me feel like already because I was the gay child that I was already wrong. Whatever I said, it was already wrong.

Yeah.

So the fact that my own sister that could be the one to vouch for me and maybe help me and maybe persuade them to see the real me, she instead went against me.

Got it. So it sort of felt like you were abandoned twice.

Right.

Were y'all close at any point?

Honestly, no.

There you go. No?

No. Growing up, we were probably close sisters, you know, as siblings in the house, we were both the two girls. So, you know, we were both the two girls. So of course, you know, but by me leaving home so early and us being 4 years apart, she was still a kid kind of when I left. So, you know, you don't really build that real bond until y'all kind of both of age, like, you know? So we had a kiddie bond and a kiddie relationship, but not a, you know?

Yeah, the adult relationship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I was gone by then, so.

It's time to hear what Aaliyah has to say about this situation. Everyone, please welcome Aaliyah to my show.

Yo, I was watching the whole thing backstage, yo.

You got it all wrong. You got it all wrong.

First of all, nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

Yeah. How you doing? Please take a seat. You smell great.

Thank you, thank you.

So you're saying that your sister Jelly has it all wrong.

Please express.

Yes. I didn't know we was gonna come out here and do it like this. I mean, The amount, let's get that straight. $500.

$250 for the first deposit, $250 for the second deposit.

When you sent me $250?

I sent it to you on Cash App. You don't recall that day?

Never got $250.

You never got that?

Never.

So the day that we had the situation and we had to go after you was about to pay me back and they told me to come and meet you at our family member's house and pay the rest.

So what is this right here? What payment is this?

That's the $116 that she sent for her portion of her deposit. Mm-hmm.

No.

The other $116 is an accident, a mistake that she accidentally sent.

No.

That I kept. That's the amount.

No.

So what's $116 plus $116?

So you're admitting that you did keep an amount though?

I did keep one $116.

Why did you keep her money?

Because honestly, I feel like—

You smiling about it.

She owed me.

Owed you in what way? When have you ever given me anything, ever vouched for me, ever did anything for me, ever been there?

You could be in jail right now if it wasn't for me.

In jail for what?

If you would've pulled over and put tickets in my name.

You're absolutely right about that, but hold on, hold on, hold on. I gave you every dollar for that ticket and I was honest and told you straight up when it happened.

Where the $250 when you sent me? That's irrelevant. Let's stay on track.

I sent you $250. I sent you $250 separately.

I don't have it on my Cash App. I do have what you sent me.

Jelly says that you deleted it, Aaliyah, from yours. Is that true?

No, I have—

I didn't have any trace of it on my phone.

But I do.

You know how Cash App sends you the emails of the confirmations? That's the only way I can show it, 'cause when you block Cash App for some reason, the email— I didn't bring out any.

You should have sent them 'cause I sent what you asked for.

They should ask for them.

Well, I got mine, $116. You said— Okay, well, let's say that is the amount. You said—

Let's say that is the amount.

I know it is.

If that is the amount, where's my money?

In my bank account. In your bank account?

I wanna keep it calm right now because I can't understand either of you. And if I'm gonna be able to help, I gotta figure out some of this. I understand that you're saying that she's had interactions with other people where there has been money that's come up missing.

But we're here. Let's talk about it.

But I will say this, I will say this, I'll say this. I know that you're upset right now.

Very upset.

I really do know that. Very upset.

I wear my feelings on my sleeve 'cause I'm a real person.

I'm not giving her the money back, period, point blank. I don't care if I— If someone at the family house was offering to say, hey, just give her back the money or whatever. If you don't wanna give it back to her, I'll give it back to her. I said, you can do that, but I'm not that sorry. I'm not giving her back anything.

Did she not just walk out the restaurant and come out with her cash out saying, I wanna fix this?

Yes, when she came out.

When did that conversation change in that same day?

I came out to show them that I was wrong.

I even offered when she came out and said, give me half. I am, and I'm okay for paying for it.

Wrap it up.

I'm okay for vouching for it for what I've done.

The pain that's coming from this is not about money.

It's not.

This is something deeper.

It's way deeper. It's way deeper. That's why I never gave her back the money, 'cause it's way deeper than this.

Tell the deep side.

Tell the deep side. The deep side is Jelly really envying me for things I can't control, things that are out of my control. Like the love that I have, the shine that's on my life. Like, I wanna be there for her.

Really, the shine?

The shine that's on my life.

You working at a call center all your life.

Jelly, I have a—

It's your mother's business succeeding right now too.

I am successful at this moment. What?

What?

Come on. She's an ugly person. She's hurting inside. Look at her.

I am hurting inside.

Look, and she's letting it out. I'm very hurting.

Tell your sister, what are you hurting about?

I'm hurting because the people that I love the most do stuff like this. I've always been the star in my family.

I realized immediately this has nothing to do with money.

It's not.

Absolutely.

This is pain.

Absolutely.

I'm not hurting. I'm trying. I am. I'm in the healing stage.

Jelly. Jelly.

You're not the victim, baby. By me being the gay child, they thought I was the criminal.

I love you for being gay. What's wrong with being gay? Who you sleep with has nothing to do with me.

Get some real money. You're not offended by me being the gay one? Anything that happened, it was jelly.

And I understand you're still hurting from that.

Very much so. And I don't have a problem with being honest about my truth.

I get that. But the thing is, is that you'll never be able to heal from that truth when y'all are arguing and overtalking each other. Your sister is clearly telling you from her trauma of a child that she's still hurting, that she feels like the people that she trusts and loves the most, which includes you, turned their back on her. And right now, this moment for $116 or whether it's $250, is just triggering that. How do you feel that your sister is feeling pain from a childhood wound that is coming up right now?

I sometimes be having sympathy for her, but it really be hard 'cause she really bring a lot of stuff onto herself.

At the end of the day, there is a lot of trauma and pain that's going on between your family.

And it didn't start over the 116. I mean, that happened.

That's the only thing with me. I never had no real problem before that.

Never?

I've been getting taken blows. I've been getting the short end of the stick. That was the icing on the cake.

That's holding you back. It's causing a pain inside of you.

Definitely holding her back.

It definitely is. It definitely is. You can't tell me what's holding me back.

The $116,000?

It definitely is.

Oh, the pain.

Oh, the pain and the $116,000.

Oh.

No, that's what the pain is from, okay? The money is very painful to me.

Listen, I gotta say this. Y'all are both amazing women. I feel like both of y'all have bright futures, but there's a communication issue right now. I'm gonna ask each of you a question. This is gonna be my final question for each of you. And I don't want you to overtalk the other. For you, what will it take to forgive your sister?

Jesus to come back.

What will it take for you to forgive your sister?

For her to get counseling. I love my sister.

No, I wanna read it out. I like to see it, to see where I was a couple of years ago.

Okay, well if that wasn't the case, whatever it is.

I think at this point—

I would want her to get help with her own character and be able to stand in her truth.

I think at this point, I don't think at this point y'all will be able to mend that relationship. I think what's going to take this relationship to mend is parties that are not here right now. It's not the money, it's parties that are not here right now. It's your parents.

She don't have it. She don't have it.

It's your parents. Your parents need to be here right now. Absolutely. And whatever has happened to you all as kids is bleeding into you as adults. Listen, that $116,000 or whatever it is, is not gonna hurt you. You fly, you got a bright future ahead of you. Go make your money somewhere else. And until you find your parents in a space where they can help y'all heal, Y'all gotta disconnect. And that's just the truth of it.

I feel that.

There's a young woman inside of you that's hurting and there's a young woman inside of you who's confused and doesn't know how to accept her sister's pain. And until that is acknowledged and healed, this is gonna keep going forever and ever. Hold on, where you going? I'll tell you where you're going. Right here to subscribe and right here to watch more. Period.