He Denies My Daughter Because She Has Down Syndrome! | KARAMO

So why is he denying your daughter?

My daughter has Down syndrome. Oh. He doesn't believe that because she has trisomy 21 that it came from, she came from him.

Yeah.

And also because he's controlling and I'm not the one to be controlled. So that's another way. His ulterior motive, he has motives.

So he has motives. So when did he start denying your child?

Well, the first time he started doing it, when we first found out, the day we first found out that I was pregnant, he was on a phone call with his friend His friend said, "Are you sure that that's your baby?" And he didn't even respond. He didn't even respond, yeah.

And how long were we together at this point?

Well, we were only a couple months in, so I'll say probably about, when this happened, probably about 4 months in.

4 months in, okay then. Was she planning? Was Violet planning?

She was actually planning, yes. We were taking vitamins and everything to conceive, so where did we go wrong, you know?

Yeah, so if we're together, I'm telling you, we've talked about it, I'm taking vitamins. Why all of a sudden the switch up? Got it. Is he harassing you online now?

He not, well, not anymore. A month ago I cut it short, blocked him. He's even going from his new supply, going from her page, 'cause you know Facebook can get messy. It tells you who looking. So you know, when he pops up—

That's how it tell you who looking now?

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that.

And for your people.

Really?

Yeah, tell 'em, clock that tea.

What? Oh, I didn't know that, okay. So let me go backwards. How did y'all meet?

We met on a dating website. I wanted to give it a try. You know, I heard a lot of success stories, so I wanted to give it a try. Gave it a try. Awesome guy, outstanding guy.

Yeah.

You know, surprised me. Sheep in wool clothing.

Mm.

Got it.

Started coming out.

Mm-hmm. So how was the relationship when he moved in?

He moved himself in. He wasn't supposed to be there. Let's be honest. He was one of those.

Got it.

May I get a tissue?

Yeah, of course you can. Yeah.

He actually moved himself in on me. Uh-huh. And when he did that, I didn't like that. I told him why I didn't like that.

How many months in did he move himself in?

Immediately.

Immediately. So y'all were just like talking, messing around, and all of a sudden you notice he was leaving clothes, a toothbrush.

Right, leaving clothes, a toothbrush. I mean, I said, I'll wash your clothes for you because I see that you had a consistent clothing that you were wearing. So I say, he's a good guy, he looks like he's down bad, he need a little help, let me help him out. Go get your clothing, I'll wash them for you. So you could have clean clothing. Those clothes never made it back to where they had to go.

Got it.

So how do you feel about what she had to say?

I think she's lying about a lot. That's number one. She's painting a whole nother picture of who she is.

Okay. What's the picture she's painting? Tell me from your point of view.

I'm sorry, I wanna talk to you for a bit. I don't wanna be interrupted. She said her piece.

Okay, tell me your piece.

First off, I showed her that I was a good father to all of her children, all 6. And we was homeschooling 2 of them.

Okay.

Everything they asked me for, everything she asked me for.

So this is in the 4th, in 4 months y'all were together or 5 months, whatever the short time in time, you're saying that you helped co-parent with her other kids?

Oh, of course. When I first came into the picture, listen, I was, my landlord had passed away from COVID and I went to go stay with my son's mom. And I got on the dating app and I met her. And within, I think it was 2 weeks at the most, she was like, "I don't like me and my person to be living at different locations," stuff like that. That's how I came about living with her. But she was everything I wanted. She was, "Oh my God, we can chill, talk about anything." That's the person I met. But when I moved in and got to know this person, like she stays out all times of night. She leaves her kids with me. She said, "Oh, you're a great babysitter." She told me that on numerous occasions.

What you ain't gonna do? You ain't gonna sit here and lie now, talk about I leave my children with you at nighttime to go where?

Listen, let me tell you something.

At nighttime.

She makes excuses.

No, 'cause what you not gonna do is lie.

No, I don't have to lie on you.

That's one thing.

I'm not even with you no more. No, you're not gonna sit here and tell these lies on me. And you're right. No, that's not who I am. It's not, period.

So why haven't you been in Violet's life then? The child is 4 months old, 5 months old?

I'm married.

How old is Violet now?

She's 4 months.

4 months old. So 4 months old. If you felt like there could have been some possibility, why didn't I get a DNA test quickly in the hospital and just be there and get that done?

Okay, so this is what she did before the baby was born.

You know what, Karamo, I'm sorry to cut you off.

She moved so far away.

But your daughter is in the hospital right now as we speak to you.

Okay, but let me answer his question. You can't speak for me. That's another thing she does.

Y'all, stop, stop, stop. So she moved, so she's saying she moved from, 'cause you're in Florida and she's in North Carolina.

Yeah, she moved and went up north.

Oh my God. That's my daughter right there. She's in the hospital.

Okay.

Let me get to that. So she moved to North Carolina and you moved to, you're in Florida right now.

She knew I was in Miami. I'm not just gonna pick up and then she did this while we was broken up. She didn't contact me till months after and say, hey, your baby, this and that. I didn't miss none of my kids' births. Not one.

Why is she in the hospital right now? So sorry, by the way.

She got a— oh, thank you. She got a virus. And because she has Down syndrome, her immune system is not as strong as ours.

And she gonna say on camera, I rejected my baby because of Down syndrome?

And you did.

And you did.

What?

Come on, man. I have no reason to say that.

Listen, listen, listen. I'm gonna tell you something. I take care of mine. I took care of hers.

No, he don't.

I'll take care of mine.

'Cause you have 3 children total, correct?

Yeah.

And are you a good father to those kids?

Oh, of course.

And you really wanna find out about mine, but you was over there worried about the paternity of the other one.

Yeah, and I wanna know.

But you wanna make it a messy situation for me.

But I did that. That's not your business.

Okay.

Say what you want.

Valid is your business.

I did find out that my daughter, because there was some infidelity there, but she was a woman about it. She told me.

Got it.

She wasn't doing all this.

Got it.

And then my son's mine.

You mentioned earlier that she has a relationship with your mother now, and that it made you upset because your mother didn't even raise you.

And call her a crackhead bitch the other day.

Listen, I can't talk like this. Until I can talk to you, I'll come back.

That's what he do, he walk away, coward. Coward.

Has his mother met Violet?

She calls.

She calls?

She calls, she checks on Violet every day, she calls.

So his mother tries to check in and see. So his mother does believe that's true.

I'm sorry, Karamo, but I got insides with him. For one, you deny my child medically and then you gonna sit here on this show and lie and say that you did not. For what reason am I gaining to sit here and lie on you? He knew about, he sat down on that phone and told me in my face, oh, that doesn't run in my family. So what does that tell you? And that's your baby.

Mm, mm, mm.

What was he saying back there? Jeffrey, I'd like to hear you, but you gotta come back on stage for me to hear you.

Mm.

You want me to be nice after you denied my child with a disability? Literally. I just got—

Jeffrey, what is it that you feel that you feel like I'm not hearing you?

Can we do this? Can I switch seats since— Can I talk to you now? 'Cause I can't, no.

But I'm hearing everything you're saying, so I'm not sure where the discomfort coming is because I've been giving you direct eye contact and giving you everything you need. So I'm confused to why you think I'm not hearing you.

She's interrupting me, her back's to me. I feel like I can't talk to you properly.

Would you mind exchanging seats with her?

I don't have a problem.

That's better.

So is there something you need me to know?

Yeah, back to me answering your questions. When I was dealing with this person, I've tried very hard. I tried so hard with anybody I ever been with.

You tried hard.

I tried so hard with those kids, like, and then we had a baby coming, so I wanna make sure. That I got to know it was 6 personalities in all. I took time for each and one of them.

I understand.

And I love them all. And the way she took them away from me.

So backstage, your mother is here, Tracy. And so I wanna bring Tracy out.

It doesn't even matter what she has to say.

So let's bring out Tracy to the show. You don't have a relationship with your mom?

Close at all.

Okay, ever? Ever in your life?

No.

Okay. Hi.

Welcome.

Thank you, man.

First of all, Jeffrey told me that the baby wasn't his. He wanted DNA.

Okay.

He was through to give me Stephanie number. When he gave me her number and I looked at the baby, I said, well, Jeffrey. Well, the baby look like me. Yeah, he blocked me.

Is that true?

Because I said, okay, woman, have what you want to do. No, no, no, no. When I talked to Stephanie, he knew I had a conversation with her. No, no, no.

See, I'm already upset with you and my business. Listen, that's not how it went. I was talking to my mom.

The reason why she moved away, because he was abusing her.

Listen, oh my God.

And she was trying to keep a roof over her kids' head. So that's a lie.

Okay, but your mother said that you called her and said you denied the child and you want a paternity test. Is that true?

This is what happened.

Is that a yes or no?

No, that's not what happened. The only reason I gave my mom Stephanie's number is because I wasn't in the mood to the talk to Stephanie, but I wanted to know what was happening with my child.

I hear that.

But they turned around and did this.

So what you're saying is that you're sitting here lying, bro. You're saying that you never called me for the baby?

You told me the baby wasn't yours. No, you can't even act so seamless. My baby. Listen, she was staying here, but that ain't my baby.

Stephanie, why do you think that? So then why do you think that he's denying her?

Because of her medical condition when she was born.

My daughter has that.

He asked me, he said, well, do they run in my family? I say, you got—

I ain't got a Is it a lie?

You forgot you had medical conditions when you was born.

So can I ask you this? I was also surprised. My producers told me that you're engaged now.

Yeah.

And your fiancée's here?

Yeah.

Okay. Melissa, you're his fiancée?

Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. What happened?

This is his fiancée.

How many has that been?

So how long have y'all been together?

7 months.

You've been together 7 months, so the minute they broke up—

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Did you know what the situation was? As a woman, I'm gonna say this. When I met him, he showed me—

How many men I know met? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

I think she's saying he was loving, he was caring, he helped me with my kids, everything. When I first met him, he wanted to, he told me about, I didn't even know he had a baby coming. I knew about her. From conversation, but I knew he had a baby coming. But I seen he wanted to be in her life 'cause he would talk about her, he would get her to send pictures of her stomach, like he was trying to be there. But whatever the situation was that happened.

So from your point of view, at the beginning, he was claiming this child?

Yeah, he was. And he wanted to be there, but I don't know what happened. So I'm a woman, so I have kids, so I'm not gonna speak on anybody. And I told him, I want you to be in your child's life.

So you're telling me that there was a point he was, Claiming the child, he was there, and then all of a sudden something changed.

He's there for his other kids too. I've been there supporting him with his other kids. He goes to see them, all of this.

Yeah, so that's consistent. She said the same thing. Stephanie said the same thing. She said that she was good, he gave her the flowers. So this part is all consistent. So nothing. The part that I'm getting confused at is when did it switch?

He's saying to me he feels like dealing with her is gonna be difficult.

Do you think Violet is Jeffrey's baby?

I don't know, I can't speak on it. Whatever the case is, it's on him.

You said you like her.

I support him every one step of the way.

Yes, so she's being respectful, she's being respectful.

If he knew that was his baby, why every conversation he gotta cuss her out? So to say, how's my baby doing? How's my baby doing? You got to call the police, the agents, and this and that. He don't never say nothing about violence, never.

What's gonna happen when we know the DNA truth? Okay, if we find out, what's gonna happen when we know that? Thank you so much, by the way. Thank you so much for sharing the insight, Melissa. I appreciate that. Well, I think it's time to get the DNA truth.

So. Let's go. Look at that lip right there. Look at the lip.

In this envelope is the DNA truth that you have been questioning. Stephanie, I'm gonna give you this truth to open.

Okay. Now, Jeffrey, your child is in the hospital. Can you look at me as a man as I'm looking at you as a woman? I'm not living in disgust with you. I still got some type of love for you.

I don't have nothing for you.

I don't care if you hate me.

It doesn't matter to me.

I ain't gotta open nothing.

When I give you the results—

Open the envelope, G.

I don't care about what you say.

Are you gonna be there?

I just wanna know about the child.

Or you wanna sign your rights over?

You'll see.

Open the envelope.

Okay. What does that say?

It's a biological father. You are the father.

It says what it says.

Yeah!

Tell her.

She look just like you. You knew that was your baby.

She looked just like me.

I'm a whore and I'm a slut.

She got my nose, she look just like me and my other kids. And I told you that.

So this is crazy.

Tell me to get up the face 'cause I'm about to be the one probably take care of her.

No, you ain't take care of your, your twins.

What you mean? You ain't give me the chance. You ain't give me the chance.

What are you talking about?

No, no. You gotta get him in your possession first.

Fall back. You better fall back.

You gotta get him on yourself.

So I gotta tell you.

Bring your pressure down.

I'm gonna be in that room at that life. Believe that. You do what you gotta do. 'Cause I got communication with her mother. I got my results.

I greatly appreciate it.

Yeah. You have your results. You know this is your child.

Yes, sir.

You're gonna step in, right?

Of course.

Okay then. I mean, this is now the defining moment. You're seeing this, you understand this is his child. It's now time for him to step up. I will also say to you that you have to recognize patterns as a young woman. Just watch this behavior.

As well.

Jeffrey, what I'm gonna tell you this is that we do understand that the most important thing here is Violet. But as I've told people, my concern on this show is always about children and the children that's in us. Because those are what I'm always concerned about. That's why I always see people's side and see it fair. And what is really clear to me here is that not only did we get vindication for Violet and Violet knowing who her father is, there's a child, another child on this stage that never got vindication and never got any clarity and never got any needs healing and that's you. Because I'm watching the behavior with your own mother and this is what really is breaking my heart right here. Because this entire time right here, I would never have thought if I tuned into this show and watched this show, I would never think that you were his mother. I would've thought that maybe you're her mother or you're a friend. I would never think that you were his mother. And that is sad for me because there's a young man right here who has his own pain, has his own issues and I'm seeing all of it. I'm seeing all of it. And unfortunately this show's about unfortunately the denying of this paternity, which I wish it wasn't because I wish that you could have had some time to get your healing and your closure.

And you know what? And I'm gonna say this as a man, my son's, well, my first son, his mom, she paid a high price for the things my mom did and things like that.

All these women are paying a high price for this relationship.

No, I paid the price.

No, I'm saying I paid the price. She gonna pay the price. She gonna pay the price.

And the problem is, is that it's sad because you, mom, on this stage right now, it's the truth. Listen, I know that you're thinking that you're supporting this, your grandchild, but the only way to truly support that grandchild is by making sure that your son has the healing that he needs. This is generational. And so if he doesn't heal, it passes down to her. And I'm watching a child right here who never got the chance to heal. And the fact that even when this was up, you were screaming in your son's face like, You are, I knew it. That's, that he needs comforting, he needs understanding, he needs to know he's gonna be supported right now. So what I'm gonna tell you right now is that you got your answers. I pray to God that you step up and do what's right for this child because this child has special needs and she's gonna need that support. But I'm also gonna invite you two back to this show. And if y'all want another moment with me alone where we're not dealing with this, where you have stepped up and done what you need to do, because until you heal this relationship, every woman you come across is gonna have to deal with this So if you really wanna be a better man and you really wanna be a better father, come back to the show and I can help y'all figure this out.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

All right. I wish you the best of luck.

Thank you. Good luck, y'all.