He Forgot To Cancel His Side Chick's Plane Ticket! | KARAMO

Man, let me tell you, my husband and I first started dating, he found a whole nother girlfriend in the Philippines.

I met her on ChristianFilipina.com. Dee and I was on shaky ground at the time.

One day, a package arrived at our home, and it was a package from overseas.

He had the audacity to lie to my face and tell me it was from the time when he was in the military. Then one day, out the blue, he tells me he's going to go visit his sister in Georgia.

I was actually going to the Republic of Georgia to meet this woman. That's a whole lot farther away than Georgia the state. I was on that plane for 16 hours.

He met this woman's entire family.

I messed up. When Dee caught me, I had to smooth a lot of things over. Then Dee and I got married.

Two weeks after our wedding, this nutcake of a woman shows up at our doorstep.

I forgot to cancel her plane ticket to the US.

Oops.

I'm a Nuliwet, and I'm having to explain myself to my husband's Filipino girlfriend. Does that make sense?

Where I messed up.

That was 3 years ago, and it's been going downhill since. I need Wayne's phone unlocked, period.

Listen, we will talk to Wayne a little later in the show, but everyone please welcome Dee to the show first so we can hear her side of the story. So Dee, I think you saw all of our reactions when we were watching that. We're both equally heartbroken, but also shocked at the details that we're hearing. What happened? Let's start with the woman showing up at your doorstep.

Hmm. Someone knocked on the door. My daughter was gonna answer it originally, but he beat her to it. And he disappears. And so I come up front, I hear him talking, but he doesn't see me. And I say his name, and he turns around, and of course he's got the old fuzzy wuzzy face. And so I said, who are you talking to? And then I get there, and he says, I told her not to come. I said, well, who the hell Yeah, who the hell is who?

Yeah, no, who the hell is her? No.

Yeah, that's what I say. And so she interjects and she starts questioning me, which, you know, you don't have no right to question me. I'm not talking to you.

At all.

I redirect myself to him because you owe me some answers and explanations.

Yes.

And so I'm talking to him and I tell him, she needs to leave. She doesn't want to, so I threaten her with 5 minutes or it's the police, which one you want? And so she chose to leave.

I'm surprised that he didn't just say to leave, the fact that you even had to say that.

She didn't believe that we were married, I guess. And I guess she thought by seeing him in person, he would change her mind about wanting her to stay. I'm gonna stay here.

So what did you find in your purse?

I found the love letter.

Yes, y'all.

When did he send you the love letter? And it was not addressed to me.

Who was it addressed to?

I know that ain't for me.

Just looking deep, Karamo. It's like, I desire that we be with you. So this is not his handwriting either. No. So it's not even that he wrote it to you. This is somebody who gave him a love letter.

Right, and he tried to tell me he wrote it. Now let me tell you something. If this was for me, nowhere in here does it identify the word wife.

Yes.

Because we would not have to have a meaningful relationship.

Yeah.

Because we already in one.

Yeah.

So that tells you it's for somebody else. Hello.

Yes.

All right. Don't try to talk to me like I'm stupid.

Yeah. So what suspicious things have you found around the house as well?

Okay, so. I found a piece of a condom wrapper. Another thing I found was some dishes in my dishwasher that did not belong to me. I have found footprints along the side of my wall, like somebody scaled it. His underwear between the sectional and the dining table outside of my backyard where my pool is. And what's peculiar about that is just 2 days before, we had a barbecue. And so, you know, once you finish entertaining outside, you have to do a thorough cleaning, which we did that Sunday. So why would I find those on Tuesday?

And so you said you noticed some suspicious things in your clothes that they've been missing, right?

Oh yes.

And what is he saying? Is he saying like, when you say my clothes are missing, baby, When you say, "I didn't buy this dish, who brought this dish in the house?" When you say, "Why your underwear outside?" What is he saying?

He said, "Oh, I don't know nothing about it, this, that, and the third." I said, "Well, I don't care what you know about it, you just gonna replace it. You're not gonna trick and catfish on my dime." Got it.

That's my husband. What did you overhear Wayne's family member say on the phone?

So the person expressed concern about him and his sleeping habits and things like that. The other person goes, "Well, I told him he can't handle and juggle both of them, two women. He needs to just go ahead and tell Dee what's going on, and that way he could just stop sneaking and he could just sleep in the middle between both of them." And that's what I heard.

So normally, you would say, okay, maybe you misheard, but only because, and I know, I know normally, but because there's a pattern, it can lead me to believe you could still be cheating.

You know, I would love nothing more than for me to be wrong, but something's not right somewhere.

Do you know what type of things he's searching for online?

I found that he was searching for sperm from overseas for a baby. He was looking for the morning after pills. Cribs and bassinets and full body pillows like somebody's pregnant. And I said, what are you doing? You're gonna look foolish. You and a baby gonna be on a walker together learning how to walk?

Are you serious?

And what did he say about these searches?

Oh, he says, oh, someone broke in and hacked our Amazon and put these things in there. No. And I believe that he is living two lives somewhere. But you gotta pick and make a choice. Because I am number one. I'm supposed to be number one priority, but I will never share and I'm not gonna be nobody's second. So if whatever it is that I believe is going on, Karamo, you're gonna have to create another show called Dee Does Wherever We At. And we gonna start conducting interviews and taking applications.

Amen.

And I'm gonna put myself back out there. Okay. Because I look too good to be sitting up on the shelf to be playing second fiddle to anybody.

Thank you.

Because God has a purpose for me in my life. Yes. And if this ain't for me, then guess what? This is a lesson for me, and somebody else is out there for me.

Mm-hmm.

And his problems are not my priority, you know? And his emergencies are not my urgencies.

Okay.

And I'm gonna move on in my shoes and in my life.

Amen.

And that's gonna be that. He just gonna lose out on a good woman, and it's gonna be a blessing to somebody else.

All right, well listen, it's time to hear Wayne's side of all of this. Everyone, please welcome Wayne to the show.

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First of all, you better remember, she is very articulate, okay? Yeah, so she could put them sentences together like Like that, 'cause that's what she do.

So you're saying that she just putting words together that you didn't do anything?

No.

So did you cheat?

No.

But you flew on a plane to go see another woman?

Yes, I did. That was before we got married.

But so before you got married, okay, you cheated.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me talk, let me talk.

Sure, I will. Okay, now.

No, you gotta tell us our story. You gotta tell us our story. Listen up.

You gotta tell us our story.

Okay, before we got married, I was, 'cause we was on shaky ground, okay, so I flew over there, I met somebody and everything else. And I didn't know where it was going. Okay, so I laid. And then when it came up to us getting married— Wait, hold on. Did you propose to her?

Did you propose to her when you were engaged?

I'm talking, but I'm talking.

Uh-uh-uh. Did you propose to her?

But that was the thing.

Did you propose to her?

Yes, yes.

How can you be engaged to two people at the same time?

Mm, but to— okay.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

That's it, that's all.

Okay, hold on, hold on.

I have my yes and no. Y'all heard him say yes?

Okay, yeah, I said yes.

All right, keep it rolling.

Now, before we got married, 'cause you gotta hear the whole story. Okay, before we got married, it wasn't that I was gonna go with the woman to the Philippines. What it was was I dumped the girl from the Philippines, okay? I dumped her. The only thing I did wrong with that one was I did not cancel the ticket for her to come here. I told her that I didn't want to. She came anyway. That's why she came after we got married. I told her and we made a promise, and I made a promise that once we get married, I'm done. It was over. Everything was gonna be smooth. I'm living up to it.

You're living up to that. But so there's one conflict in your story The problem with the story that I'm hearing is you said, "I told her before that I didn't wanna get married." I told, yes, I did. You said you didn't wanna get married, which I can respect that. If you don't wanna get married, understandable. But the problem lies in the fact that you not only got engaged to her, but you got engaged to another woman. So for a man to say, "I did not wanna get married," why do you get engaged to two different women?

Beyond me.

Because that's where the conflict goes because now I'm hearing you say, "I don't wanna get married," which means you're not honoring yourself as a man.

To be honest, everything I have, It's a back, I always been a backdoor person. Things don't work, I have a backdoor. Yeah, it's real because we was on shaky ground.

[Speaker:KARAMO] But so again, to go to your point, if you wanna have a backdoor, that is your prerogative. It's not something that I would suggest to you. I think it's duplicitous. But the fact of the matter is that if you feel that, why get engaged? Because you, again, you keep saying you didn't want to get married. So if you don't want to get married, yeah, okay, I just got my little side piece.

Why?

Ask her to marry you?

No, I'm gonna bring her to the country, that's why.

So you're saying you're still not cheating on Dee at all right now?

No, and also, it's like recovery, okay? I'm clean. I'm not doing anything since we've been married. And I'm gonna tell you something, that's dead and stinking, okay?

Yeah.

'Cause I'm the one who called the show to prove it to her.

Got it.

'Cause she said, "The only person I'm gonna believe is Karamo." Uh-huh. Okay? That's what she said. Okay. But we need to take it there, 'cause that's what— Yeah, okay.

Bringing other women into the house?

Never.

So when she says she feels like her things are missing, where are they going?

I don't know, but I'll tell you a time when she was telling me that clothes were missing out her closet and somebody was stealing them. We opened up the closet door, here go her clothes in a bag. I said, here go the clothes you said. Oh, they was packing them up to steal them. And then when she said about the police talking about inside job, But after that, she told different police, 'cause they got a pattern coming to my house now. She said to the police, "They came in my house, the woman took a shower, used my product, and then left." Now, they did that in 5 minutes. I got cameras, I got gates on the window.

You wanted to come here today to prove that you are not doing anything.

Yes.

Tell me something though, how long ago did the affair happen with the woman?

Before we got married, so I'm talking about maybe 3 years.

In that 3 years, you haven't done anything at all?

Anything.

And so you brought your phone here for us to unlock?

I brought 2 phones and my laptop.

Got it, okay, well it's time to unlock your phone. Wayne, we unlocked your phone.

Mm-hmm.

All right, Dee, you wanna know if Wayne has visited any dating sites. He says he has not. My Unlock the Phone investigators searched his phones and found that Wayne He's telling the truth. [FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Dee, you wanna know if Wayne is communicating with any other woman. He says he is not. My locked phone investigator searched his texts and found that Wayne is telling the truth. [FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Dee, you wanna know if Wayne has engaged in any suspicious activity. He says he's not. My unlock the phone investigator searched his apps and found that Wayne is not telling the truth. Now the interesting part is, is that this suspicious activity was not with another woman. Wayne, you created divorce documents 4 days ago. So are you—

Not 4, hold on, excuse me. Not 4 days ago, 'cause I'm gonna tell you. Okay? Er, brakes. I been got them documents, I been down, I been download, 'cause hold on, no, no, no, no.

Don't touch me.

Listen, I been got them documents just because she kept accusing me.

Dana doesn't have—

Hold on, and at one point she said she wasn't even gonna believe me.

But this means—

But they not filled out, this one is filled out 'cause I did this one.

But yeah, this is filled out.

Right. But there's no date on there or anything.

So there is a place that in your heart that you were ready for this marriage to end?

No, no. If she wasn't gonna believe you, I was gonna leave 'cause you was the one that she said she will believe.

She was the answer to, yeah. So can you understand that seeing your partner have divorce papers is going to, whether it's not about me, her coming to me for advice, says to her, my partner is not serious about me. He's not sure. I am serious. I'm not saying that you're not. I don't know what's in your heart. I'm saying how she could see this.

Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Dee. Karamo's going to create a site called Dana Does New York. I am taking applications and conducting interviews. Please come on in.

But you know what?

So you're, because of this document, you're done with him?

This right here says it all for me.

That's it, you know what she got to do?

He never said anything to me about this. He's gonna put a simple sign, boom.

Because I wasn't gonna do it.

You could stop this session.

Like I said, only if you tell her, whatever you tell her, and she say she didn't believe you, I was gonna do them things.

So I'll tell you this, what I can see immediately is that the foundation was broken. I believe that as a man, you were unsure about what you want. I think that this stems from even your younger days where you have lacked the ability to find real commitment. But what I also can see is that instead of you at this age saying, this is really what I'm feeling, you were scared in this moment to be lonely. So you kind of, and you said it, I keep something in the back door. See, when you keep something in the back door, what you're telling yourself and you're telling your nervous system always is that I'm never safe. And when you tell your nervous system that over and over again, what you're doing is you're training your mind to never have security, to never build foundations of trust because you don't trust it. Instead of doing what I always tell people, sorrys don't matter. It should be about a process of repair. So when someone does you wrong, it should say, what steps do you need me to take to prove to you? And what she's been saying is that along this line, I keep seeing things that are opposite of the repair process that I need from you. And instead of you validating it and saying, let me do these things, you say, oh, you crazy. Oh, you judging me. Oh yeah, I can't. And that's where you're messing up. So if you really love this woman and you really want to be with her, it's not about doing what you did because this paper right here, this right here goes along with everything you've done before, which is I'm gonna have a back door.

What do you need for me to do to keep us together?

I think that you need counseling.

I started that.

And therapy.

I started that.

And until we both complete our therapy individually, then we can do couples therapy together. Because if you don't heal yourself, we can't heal together.

Yeah, it's true. So that is a great first step. I wanna tell you, I agree with that 100%. You have to heal separately. And as you're doing that, also express your needs. You're still a human being as well. You get to be heard as well. This is not just one-sided, but since you broke the trust, you gotta do more to work.

You got it.

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