He Is Stepping Out RAW & I've Had It! | KARAMO

My producer told me you moved halfway across the country.

Sure did.

Okay, what happened?

Well, in my hometown, it's like, there's nothing there and it drags people down.

You was ready for change.

I'm ready for change and if this man ain't ready for change, then I don't know what to tell him 'cause.

So on top of the town dragging you down, did you feel like your man was dragging you down? Because someone told me that you thought he was cheating.

There's been a couple incidents where, yeah, I felt like he was cheating. And caught some messages.

You sound like a DM girl. My audience is so messy here.

I'm not the one though.

Okay, yeah. So you caught some messages with him and ladies and what happened?

When I confronted him about it, he's like, "No, it wasn't even like that." You know how men are. They don't wanna be caught. I do.

Is it true that he offered to help someone have a baby?

Yeah, I caught a message where he told the girl, "We don't need no condom 'cause we finna have a baby." No way.

Paula, where she at to pick?

We just caught your face, girl.

I love your reaction. I had the same reaction. Oh my gosh. So what did he say about that?

He didn't know what to say.

I'm sure he did not. I'm sure.

"It ain't even like that." They all say it ain't even like that.

So, okay, so the direct message said, "We don't need a condom 'cause we about to have a baby." Yeah. And he said—

We're trying to have a baby. He said that—

It was nothing like that.

It was nothing like that, that he was just trying to—

Then what was it like? It's like—

You asked me.

Okay, you talking about I didn't send the text. How you doing?

Okay. We supposed to be having a baby.

Okay, yeah. So have you caught him cheating in the past outside of that?

I caught some Facebook messages where he had met up with a girl. And when I asked him about it, he said, "No, we just smoked the blunt." Yeah, okay. No, you don't just, no.

What did you discover 2 days ago?

He was posted on the T-App.

And what'd they say about him?

The girl said that she posted a couple different men to see what it was or something like that, that she never even linked up with him, she never, how you got pictures that I don't got though? How you got a picture of my man that I've been with for 8 years that I ain't even got?

Okay, so hold on. So, but this is the thing, the Tea App is supposed to give the people like the tea so that they can feel like they're making a decision.

Mm-hmm.

Why would she then post it and then like backtrack if she got photos?

Karamo, I don't know. I asked him and he said, "You're the one that posted me." I said, "Why would I post you? We've been together for 8 years." Yeah, okay.

Has the relationship always been like this?

No.

What was it like in the beginning?

Our relationship was amazing. It was amazing. It got rocky about almost 3 years ago now.

Okay.

You know, so.

So year 5 it got rocky. What changed during year 5?

Well, he's accused me of cheating. I've lied to him in the past. No, I've never, never cheated.

Never.

I'm a one-man woman. I'm a one-man woman.

And so you said you lied to him in the past.

Yeah, I did lie to him, and so I could see why he thought that I was cheating.

What did you lie to him about?

About somebody that I slept with way before we even got together though. But why you wanna know about my past though? I don't wanna know about yours and who you slept with.

Got it. Okay then. Well, you asked my unlock the phone investigator to unlock his phone. And what do you think we'll find in his phone?

Everything. I'm hoping, I'm hoping for the best, but you know, you gotta pray for the best and expect the worst sometimes, so.

But you basically wanna know if he's cheating or not?

Yes.

Okay. And this is before he moves because you move to restart your life.

Yes.

And you wanna make sure you're not gonna bring drama with you.

Yes.

Okay.

And also because he wants to have a family with me.

He wants to have kids with you now?

Yeah.

Got it. Well, you know what? We heard your side and I wanna be fair. I wanna hear Isaiah's side. So everyone, let's bring Isaiah out so we can hear his side of the story.

Yeah.

How you doing, Isaiah? Hello.

Good to meet you.

Can you meet your bro?

So I gotta ask you directly, the first one. Did you offer to make a baby with somebody?

No, I did not.

Okay, so the text, they think I'm a liar. So the text said directly that we don't need a condom, we about to make a baby. What did you mean by that if you didn't mean that we about to have sex and I'm gonna impregnate you?

I was just pretty much just playing around.

Playing around, we don't play around like that though. I wouldn't go tell another man that I'm gonna have a baby with him, especially after how many years.

Well, she goes missing for days and—

I go missing for days?

So I was pretty much just—

I don't go missing for days.

Pretty much just threw it in her face just like that.

I don't go missing for days.

Hold on, before we get on missing for days, I gotta go back to this 'cause I didn't get a direct response.

Okay.

You said you were just playing around. What do you mean you were just playing around by telling someone we're gonna have sex without a condom and I'm gonna impregnate you?

Well, yeah.

Okay, cool. All right, so who posted you on? Let me tell you something, you know you done messed up when you got my cameraman laughing. When you got them, Isaiah, my brother, when they not on your side no more, you really lost, okay? What do you think we'll find in her phone?

The most.

The most, okay.

Please unlock my phone.

Okay, she ready.

Please.

Okay, well listen, she ready. Let's time to unlock the phone.

Facebook and all, bruh.

All right, well Tia, we unlocked your phone. Isaiah, you ready for this?

Yeah.

All right, here we go. Isaiah, you wanna know if Tia is messaging other men on Snapchat. Tia says she is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched her apps and found she is not telling the truth.

Who? Who am I? Who?

Tia, you're communicating with 22 men on Snapchat. 22. But he did determine—

Hold on, hold on.

It did determine that none of the conversations were inappropriate in nature. And most of them, she mentions you and your relationship in many of the conversations with them.

You shouldn't be talking to them anyway.

When I'm ordering you stuff from them?

You shouldn't be talking to them anyway.

When I'm ordering you stuff from them?

You shouldn't be talking to them anyway.

Okay. 'cause you wanted the grill. So I'm messaging this guy that makes the grills for you. Or I'm messaging this guy about an outfit for you. People that we know.

Okay, well Isaiah, you wanna know if Tia is with other men when she goes missing for days at a time. Tia says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her GPS and found she's telling the truth.

Thank you. Thank you. Never.

So my unlock phone investigator found two frequent locations, Tia's home and Super Walmart. That's where she at the most.

You telling me on my Walmart? I'm on the phone with you, I'm not at the Walmart though.

Listen, Isaiah, you wanna know if Tia is hiding anything since she moved to South Dakota. Tia says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched her phone and found she's not telling the truth. My unlock the phone investigator determined that the phone was tampered with on September 1st, which was a little suspicious. Tia, why did you tamper with the phone?

I didn't tamper with the phone. My phone had gotten broke back home. That's when I got the new phone because my phone got broke back home, remember? I couldn't contact you.

What happened?

Remember I was on Karamo's phone with you because my phone was broken.

Oh, so you were aware that the phone was broken beforehand?

Yeah. No, it was not.

I just got the iPhone.

No, it was not.

How was it not? It's sitting at your cousin's house in Washington.

Well, he's also telling me right now that it was a reset on September 1st as well. So it was broken. Why did you reset it?

No, it was a phone that I never had that was given to me.

Okay.

No, I'm serious. Like you could call, it was my daughter's phone. I'm not lying, you know about that phone.

Well, reset makes sense for, does that make sense for a new phone? Yes. Okay, that makes sense for a new phone.

It wasn't my phone. Somebody gave that phone to me to put my SIM card in. Nah, come on.

That's it. Okay, so that makes, so my producer, she's talking to my investigator and she's like, that makes sense for a new phone. So okay. You're the clear on that one. Listen, we just gotta find everything, okay?

We gotta find it all.

That's what we do here. We are like fowls and we find everything. So, why is there— you wanna know if Tia is having inappropriate conversations with men. Tia says she is not. My unlock the phone investigator searched the text and found she is telling the truth.

Thank you.

However, my investigator said there were 90 messages that he needed me to see. Ralph, you got the messages? Oh, y'all know when Ralph got an evidence bag. Oh, okay. Thank you, Ralph. This says, "I love you, my king." That's what you said to him.

Mm-hmm. That's my daughter's number. That's the phone he has right now.

Okay. "I love you." But then underneath it says you cussed her out, 'cause I'm looking at it. Why did you cuss her out when she said, "I love you, my king"?

'Cause she be She says that to a lot of people.

He just told you I don't.

She's not talking to anyone. But even if you were suspicious of her talking to other men, when she says, "I love you, my king," why not just say, "You know what, right now I don't wanna deal with this." Why cuss her out?

But does she truly feel like that down deep inside her heart?

Yes, I do. If I didn't love you and I didn't wanna be with you—

Wow, 'cause right here you're calling her a nasty hoe. You're telling her that she has sex with people all over, that she's a cheat. Oh my gosh.

And when I wanna hang up the phone, oh, you wanna hang up the phone 'cause you gonna be going and messing with somebody right now having sex.

And every time he calls you outta name, you just reply, I love you.

Yeah.

You tell her she's a liar. Oh, okay. And who's this woman?

That's. You tell me why he was with her in the middle of the night.

Why were you with her in the middle of the night?

We was just kicking it.

While I'm in South Dakota?

No.

And I can't get ahold of you on the phone. You can't answer my calls, but you with another bitch.

No, you know her as well.

I don't give a fuck. Dirty ass trifling.

Stop cussing.

No, she's trifling. She cheated on you.

Well, Tia, I'll tell you this. We've unlocked your phone. We know that you're clear. So she's not cheating on you. She's not going in random houses. But now it's time Isaiah to unlock your phone.

Let's go.

All right, Isaiah, we unlocked your phone. Here we go.

How's Facebook get on, bro?

Tia, you wanna know if Isaiah is texting other women. Isaiah says he is not.

Oh, that's a lie 'cause I caught him. I read him.

Our love phone investigator searched his texts and found That outside the messages you found, he's telling the truth right now.

Oh.

Wow.

Okay. The whole 8 years?

So Tia, you wanna know if Isaiah's hiding anything since she moved to South Dakota. He says he's not. My locked phone investigator searched his photos and found he is not telling the truth. My locked phone investigator found explicit photos of 23 different women in his photo album.

Of course. And you wonder why I got attitude, you wonder why I talk You wonder why I got, oh. You lucky we on the Karamo Show.

So Tia, you wanna know if Isaiah is messaging other women on social media. Isaiah says he is not. My Lock the Phone investigator searched his DMs and found he is—

Lying.

Not telling the truth. My Lock the Phone investigator found him communicating with 13 different women. Some as recent as this month.

Oh boy. Can you come over? "Can you come over?" The bitch told me she's at the house with you.

No, hey, that's, uh—

Really?

That was his ass.

Look. It's over.

Check it out.

Okay, so Tia.

Hell is sick.

Tia, I wanna tell you something.

On this 28th, after I left, I buried my, I had my grandma's funeral and you're texting a girl the next day?

Tia.

Oh.

So here you go. I want you to know this. He told that he was looking for a new girlfriend just one week ago after you left. Isaiah also reconnected with his ex and told her that he loved her only 4 days ago after you left.

You're done. Over. Oh, I do. Oh, I want to slap fire. I want to slap fire from you. You're done.

So Tia, I gotta tell you this right now.

8 years.

Tia, the only, Tia, I gotta tell you, the only move you should be making.

These friends and all, man.

Tia.

You breaking them more than you're breaking me.

Tia, the only move you should be making is moving on. Do not look back.

For myself.

For myself, bro.

There's several things at play here. There's several things at play here today.

You told your ex you still love her. Who was it? Which one?

Let's just be on top of it.

Or what?

Kia, this is the thing. Doesn't even matter. Outside of this, what you have confirmed now is that during these years you have been faithful, you have been doing nothing, and he has clearly been in situations.

Well done.

I mean, brother, I can't help you. You did this to yourself. And the unfortunate part is the way that you were, by the way, any, so I'm gonna pretend like I'm the T app right now. Anybody who starts to date this man, I wanna let you know something. What he will do is when he's done something bad, he will immediately flip the story to start creating a diversion to talk about something you're doing. That should be your first indication that he's lying to you and that he's doing something deceitful. That's what you did on this stage. So you have a pattern of it. I've counted it 4 different times. It's one of the reasons I have this show, to make sure that people understand the patterns and transparency of their partners. And so what I ask for you is that you grow, because she's right. You've gotten these children's lives, you've affected them, because now they've seen you as somebody who they love. And now she's gonna have to explain to these kids why this man is now longer in our lives. So what I ask for you is that you just be mature enough and be man enough that the next woman you get with, be honest.

Yeah.

Okay, and until you're honest, you gonna keep running into problems where whatever about to happen right now, 'cause I hear her coming back out. I hear her coming.

I just wanna know if you have anything to say to me. Like, do you have anything to say to me?

I just wanna let you know I love you from the bottom of my heart.

Oh, oh no, we're not doing that. All right, everybody at home, stay with us. We'll be right back, friends.

We're not doing that shit.

We're not doing that.

Bye, y'all.

We going.

Good day. Bye.