He Refuses To Support Our Child Until He Takes A DNA Test! | KARAMO

What's going on between you and Trey?

Physically, we're not in a relationship. We just co-parenting.

Okay.

Working on co-parenting with each other.

You're trying to co-parent, but if you're here, that means that he is denying the child.

Denying.

Yes, he's denying.

Okay, so let's start from the beginning. How was the relationship at the beginning?

It was like romantic. We was like lovey-dovey. We was going on dates, we was going to do like massage therapists and all of that. Late nights we'd be on the phone. And like, you know, we were together for them 2 years and he just—

So this was long term, 2 years?

Yes, 2 years.

Okay. And when did things go wrong in the relationship?

Just started accusing me of doing things and I was just like, you know, I had sat and thought to myself like, why would you be accusing me when you know I'm not doing anything? I'm around you 24/7 around that time. And you just was like, oh, well you doing something. So I had ended up going through his phone.

Did you find something?

Text messages.

Text messages.

Mm.

He's talking to other women?

He were.

And so this is after you say that he was accusing you and you were doing nothing. And then you find out. And so you told my producers that Trey is an absent father now.

Yes.

In what ways?

Not being involved, not being there, not sending any money for her when I need. I'm a single mom, so I have to do what I gotta do for my baby.

Yes, of course.

So. Of course.

As you being a father, I want you to speak step in and step up. Yeah, okay.

What happens when you ask Trey to send money to his daughter?

He refuses to do it.

Refuses, wow. And what's his reasoning?

If she's not my daughter, I'm not doing anything for her. Okay.

So my producers tell me that we have a text message that Trey sent you. I wanna read it. It says, "Whatever, I'm not spending no money on a child that I can't even keep. So you tighten up, I'm not sending you. Just know that your child don't even know me, girl, please." Okay.

Well, I would say if you step up as a father, you would do what you have to do and be in her life. She would know you. She would know who you are.

So what happens when you ask—

8 months, 8 months you have not been— You came and saw her for 8 months and then you noticed her skin complexion. You did not. You denied that you wasn't her father.

Got it.

Because she wasn't your skin color. My baby took after my father and my grandma.

And how did it feel when Tre sent you that message?

How did you feel after that message? I was hurt. I wanted to go off. I wanted to punch him.

Yeah, of course.

I wanted to like pull up to his house and you know what, like, bitch, run me my face in. Yeah.

So what happens when you ask Trey to spend time with his daughter?

When she turned 1 year old, that's when I sent him a message of her birthday and I invited him and he was like, "I'm not coming." And I was like, "Okay, well if you don't wanna come then you know you ain't got to, but I'm still gonna send you the invitation." To let you know you welcome.

Got it.

I'm not gonna keep her from you. I'm not a better baby mama.

Of course, yeah. You're still gonna make sure that you did your job to make Tre included. Did Tre show up for your daughter's birthday party ever?

Yes, he showed up.

He did show up, okay. And how was that?

Ooh, he enjoyed himself until like, you know, I'm lost.

Well, my producer told me you brought a couple of photos from the birthday party. Let me see. The baby's beautiful. Is that him in the background in orange?

Oh yes, that picture right there. He looked like he ain't wanted to be there.

Got it, okay. Was he acting standoffish the entire time?

Yes, he was standoffish. Oh, and they smashed cake in my baby in my face and I was just like, she was just looking around.

Who smashed cake in your face?

Trey. That's Trey in that picture right there, the orange shirt. He smashed cake in my face in our face.

Why? Is that something cute y'all used to do or something?

No. It's her first birthday, so I wouldn't know. I never been smashing the cake with the cake in my face.

Yeah, and so how did you react? I'm so sorry that happened to you. What happened to you?

I didn't jump up, I didn't react. I said, "It's my baby birthday party, so I'm not gonna cuss nobody out.

I'm just gonna go along." So what was his reasoning for smashing cake in your face?

For her celebration of her party.

Okay.

If she got smashed, if her face got smashed with cake.

Do you feel like that's disrespectful?

Yes.

Okay, I just wanna make sure. Okay, I just wanna make sure. I mean, I could understand maybe putting a little cake on the baby face. That's cute down there. But the mother, you know.

It got all in my hair. I was mad.

Yeah, okay. And how do you feel about Trey?

Emotionally, I do care.

Okay.

And I want the best for him. I want him to step up as a father.

Okay, so emotionally you're still attached.

In a way, but no.

Well, no, you are attached because that would give me some reasoning behind some of your reactions.

Because I want the best for me and his child.

I understand. Do you wanna be with him?

No.

Do you love him?

I love him as him being my child's father.

Okay, so why not just co-parent?

That's fine. I will co-parent if he willing to co-parent.

Got it, okay. So what's on the line today?

I'm just willing to find out if he's her father.

Yeah, there's a piece of this that's missing in my mind that you say like y'all are together for 2 years, everything is great, and then he accuses you of cheating. You have not done anything during that time. He didn't find no suspicion of anything during that time.

No suspicion.

And then all of a sudden you find his and then he stops denying your baby.

Yes.

Okay, well I think it's time to hear from Tab's ex Trey to see what he has to say about all this. So everyone please welcome Trey to the show. How you doing, Trey?

You gotta stop lying so much and let these people know the truth, man.

Okay, how you doing, sir?

Hey, how you doing? How you doing?

So please let me know the truth. So what is it that you heard backstage that you feels like she's lying about?

The whole situation.

Okay, tell me.

First of all, our relationship been like rocky off and on from the start of it. If I'm sitting right here and my mom call my phone, you know who's over my shoulder? She's like this, like in my phone. That's a part, that's a certain part of insecurities. You get what I'm saying?

But in all fairness, and I wanna hear your side, she says she found that you cheated on her by going through your phone. So you would understand that the insecurities would've been established.

How can you cheat on a person when y'all not together?

So you weren't together for the 2 years?

Not 2 years straight, though. We was off and on.

We were together.

We were together. Why you say we was off and on? It was never no committed relationship as far as 2 straight years.

Okay.

So you told my producers you don't feel like she's woman enough to have a relationship with you.

Correct.

What does that mean?

Sometimes it gets to a point where I shouldn't have to come home and tell you to cook. I shouldn't have to come home and tell you to do certain things, you know? And it gets to a point where— Cooking? It gets to a point where— You worried about her cooking? If I'm working all day, if I'm working all day and I come home, I shouldn't have to say nothing. All this shit be done. You sitting home all day, you not doing nothing.

Well, she's sitting home with a newborn, right?

A newborn? You expect me to do all of this as—

That's wifey duty.

That's wifey duty. Do y'all see any ring on my finger to do any of that?

Even if we were married, a man shouldn't have the control of a woman to do anything like that. I got a question for you. I got a question for you. What's the point of me stepping up to take care of a child that I don't know for sure is it mine or not? You get what I'm saying? So that's the closure about it.

Okay, but that's your insecurities and we was dealing with each other around the time.

Exactly, either way, it's like, go and crack the whip.

Do you feel like she was dealing with other men during that time?

I do.

Do you have proof of that?

Ain't no, I don't have no proof, but I know my ways.

Do you think you have any controlling ways?

I don't.

No, do you?

Me personally?

Do you think you have any?

I mean, I'm an alpha male. I have very strict ways.

So that means you have some controlling ways.

Yes, I have very strict ways. I want something to eat when I get home. I shouldn't have to cook.

Okay.

Is Tab trying to stop you from being a dad to your other kids?

In a way, I feel like she kind of jealous of the relationship I have with my other kids because I don't, see, my whole thing is I don't go all the way in for her child because I don't know. The difference is I'm 100% know that these my kids because of DNA and stuff. So this is what's gonna give me closure right here.

Okay, so you're saying that once you find out today if this is your child, You will 100% be in this child's life.

Yes, no doubt.

And so—

And I will let him. I'm not going to stop him.

So let's let me know one more time, why are you questioning whether Tab's baby belongs to you? She's saying she was faithful.

'Cause I'm gonna be honest with you, when we broke up, I had another child. I was honest with her. You get what I'm— I was honest with her about that child. You get what I'm saying? And she think that me and her was in a relationship when that child was here. It did not happen like that. We was completely separated. And the dates add up to it. You get what I'm saying? There's no way that me and you was together when I had this child. And that's the thing.

And I understand that you defending that child, but we're talking about this child. So with this child, she's saying when y'all were together, you were in a relationship, she wasn't talking to anybody. But you think she was?

I do.

Okay then. I do. And she said earlier it's because you think the baby has a different skin color. Is that part of it?

Not just the skin color, man. I got a unibrow, man. I had all my kids come up with that Buddha.

That ain't mean.

All my kids, look at this Buddha.

All of your children.

All my kids, this Buddha right here.

Got it, all of 'em.

All of 'em.

She blames you for the relationship falling apart. Do you feel like you're the reason?

Yes, his actions, the way he speaks.

I feel like I'm helping keep this relationship together.

You do?

Not really.

I feel like I'm very much a way to help keep this relationship together. Not really.

Not really.

But what about that photo at the birthday party? 'Cause you look like you ain't wanna be there. You look like—

No, that's not that. I was just walking up. It's because it's like, it's that controlling part. It's controlling. You trying to tell me to come to a child's party when I already know this is my child, I'm coming. You don't have to tell me to come.

But what made you smash cake in her face?

It was for a memory. That's what, that's the whole thing.

What kind of memory?

What memory was that? I remember the memories together. And it was like, this our child's first birthday party. We gonna have to remember this some way. Like that. Just got the cake and put it in her face.

I think you could remember it other ways.

As you see on the picture, I got the cake in my hand.

I think you could remember it other ways. You know that's trifling and disrespectful. You smash cake in her face.

Man, it was a fun moment. It was a dumb moment.

I don't know if she thought it was fun.

They was laughing. Everybody was laughing, but I wasn't. That was my last.

Got it.

So you told my producers that you also feel disconnected from this little girl. Is that true?

Yes, because I can't get her when I want her.

Oh.

Without being controlled. You get what I'm saying?

Wow.

I hear what you're saying. I don't get what you're saying, but I hear what you're saying.

It's always a control part. It's like in order for me to get my child from her, she have to know where I'm at, know what I'm doing, what I'm doing, where I'm going.

You thought I'm finna let my child just go with you and then you, whoever you're around, I don't know them.

You're not around people to me. My whole thing is you didn't lay down by yourself I never had this child. We had this child together. So you shouldn't have to keep coming.

So now you feel like you've had the child together?

In a way of, we had the child together regardless until we get this DNA test and figure it out. You get what I'm saying? My whole thing is, even prior to this, even prior to this, we had, it was an episode where it was like, Tab, I wanna get the baby. Oh, where you gonna be at? Well, you know my location, you know where I stay at. Okay, well how long you gonna get the baby? Okay, if I get the baby, guess what? You can't leave, don't leave my baby around nobody else. It's like, if I go to work, if I got anything to do.

But these are normal requests for co-parenting.

Not if it's got a grandma involved. Okay. I don't be around no other women.

I know, I think there is, I think you calling yourself an alpha male has caused you to have some antiquated ways about communication. Thank you. Because communication between the two of you is simply both of you setting boundaries and discussing what is best for the child and both of you respecting it. And I think what has happened is maybe none of your other children's mothers have challenged you to have conversations and set boundaries. And so therefore, now that you're having somebody who's saying, "Hey, this is what I want for my child," it's causing confusion and upsetting you. But I think that if you're gonna call yourself an alpha male, I think the true nature of an alpha male is that they listen more than they talk. They work with, work with, 'cause an alpha male runs a community. They, you know, they don't lead a community, they run the community by being a part of everyone. They're talking to everyone, they're making sure everyone's aligned. So I just wanna make sure that you kind of get that. But I gotta ask you, I wanna hear point blank, do you think that she cheated on you?

Yes.

Do you think that this child belongs to someone else?

Yes. Technically, I did not cheat. If we separated around the time, obviously you had did what you wanted to do and I did what I have to do.

But you just told these people we was together for 2 whole years. We were together. We worked together for 2 years. We worked together for 2 years. So it's either, and it's like, I feel like the only reason why I feel like she cheated is because I had that one child before and I told her about it. So I feel like it gets to a point where it's get back.

Okay then, well listen, I think it's time to find out if Trey is the father of Tia's baby. So Trey, in this envelope is the truth if this is your child. I asked you some direct questions. I can see from your body language you do not believe this is your child. You wholeheartedly believe that there is another man that is father of this child. Yet you also have said and shared that you have been there from the beginning, that you laid down together, had a child, that you were there. And I think it's time for you to find out. It's been a year and you need to know the truth. This is your truth to open, not mine.

So go ahead. Hey, all I can say is this right here is gonna determine our relationship. I'ma tell you that right now.

Well, that wouldn't matter anyway 'cause you don't care. So that wouldn't matter.

Trey, Zanaria is not your biological father. And this is what happens when you put your trust behind women and you say that and they tell you that, "Oh, I'm not doing anything," you know, and this is what happens. And this is why I tell you, I know me and I know my kids, you know?

Listen.

I'm a man at the end of the day. Listen.

Listen.

Hey, I got that unibrow, man.

Listen. I'm as shocked as all y'all.

We shocked.

But I saw the conviction before. I saw it. You was sure and you trusted your gut and you was right. So she was cheating on you.

You can say it's cheating, but I don't necessarily say it was cheating. But okay. Because we wasn't together, but it is, I feel like you lied to me because I asked you about it. You get what I'm saying? I asked you the truth.

Yeah.

And it came to, it comes to a point where it's like, you not even being honest with me. It's the honesty, you know? How much more honesty do you want from me?

So what are your thoughts?

Well, I know now he's not the father, so I know who.

You know who.

Yes.

So if you had a question that there could be another man, why didn't you tell him that before? 'Cause you say now you know who, which means that you always had two names in your mind.

Around the time that we were dealing with each other, it was the time that we were doing things wrong. He wasn't using protection right.

Does this other man have any idea that he could be the father?

Around the time I was using protection with him, but with Trey I didn't use protection. Okay. So that's why, you know, was like, "Oh, you gotta be the father of this baby." Well, does the other man have any idea that he could be the father? No.

He has no idea?

No. Wow.

Are you still in communication?

No, he ghosted me.

He ghosted you?

You probably lying about that. You done lied about this.

But do you know how to get in contact with him? You do know how to get in contact with him? All right, well listen, I'm glad that you got your truth, you got your answers.

Yes.

How do you think this other guy is going to react?

I personally wouldn't care 'cause you ghosted me and I didn't know in between who—

Well, he has to know because what's gonna happen is that years later, your child will then be searching for him and be wondering where were you and all those things. So as a woman now, you have to step up for this child and make sure that he knows and make sure you get the answers. So I know you say you don't care because you're hurt by the situation, but at the same time, It's bigger than you now. It's about this child now who deserves to know who her father is.

And I don't want her to be embarrassed or sitting here like, "Who is my father?" Yeah. And now she know that Trey's not her father when she find out. Hopefully when she, you know, get of an age, I'll talk to her about it.

Yeah, but hopefully by the time she gets older, you won't have to talk to her about it because of the fact this other man will know and have stepped up. Well, listen, good luck to the both of you. Thank you again. We'll give you any support. I'm glad you got your answers.

Thank you.

You knew for sure, so stick with your gut. Trust your gut, all right?